I don't know about the rest but Chloe has been singing, acting and playing the piano since like 6 years old.

Another factor is how easy it has become to autotune someone's voice so that they sound good on a record. This has allowed labels to focus more on the visuals and social media status of an artist, rather than vocal ability.

Now it's all about image and visuals. It doesn't matter if singers can sing now because anyone can be famous if they have a good social media personality. I blame stan culture !

“Chewsdey en wessdey turrsdey en fraidey” 💀💀💀

Chloe is a damn good singer. People are haters.

The group called “FLO” from the UK is so good, they’ve recently been blowing up for their hit single “Cardboard Box” and they can actually SANG and even live, and their runs? Don’t even get me started.

I'm glad Brandy and Beyoncé's voices are still in tip top shape. But as far as the new girls, the ones that sound great are: Chloe x Halle, Yebba and Ariana. I can't really think of anybody else.

they did sza dirty with that clip LMFAO 💀

The new girls are giving fisher price vocals. I want someone in the main stream who can really sang down! But we’re also gonna need more ballads and music with old school R&B and even gospel influenced sound.

This why old school singing touched our souls! It was a spiritual experience that evoked real emotion. True that some of these new girls do have a gift…but it’s rarely cultivated and developed to help them reach their full potential. And so many are awful live performers! My guess is that the industry is more interested in quantity than quality. Nowadays it seems that high quality singers are more likely to be found on the Broadway stage, Lincoln Center, the Philharmonic etc. So sad for those of us who truly appreciate good music.

Its kinda sad how they used a clip of Normani covering a damn Rihanna song expecting her to be belting and stuff on it. She has songs and clips where she shows a lot more of her range.

it kinda died down after Beyoncé’s era of singers tbh (including Jennifer Hudson, Fantasia, etc.). But we do still have some also a lot of this generation doesn’t want to hear constant belts like the previous😭

I wholeheartedly agree with The Black Music Archive’s video! Whitney Houston, Gladys Knight, and Chaka Khan had very different singing voices but were all very well trained. The new school singers all sound alike. Even the producers use the same sounds to create music.

Chloe and Halle can SANGGGGG they have REAL vocals

There was NO lies detected in the Original video. He provided FACTUAL information and Statistics that gave credence to his Title. Me and my client who is a music teacher were talking about this SPECIFIC topic as I was doing her daughters hair. No more SANGING or Real Musicians like there was back in the day and that was STRATEGIC. These new girls arent horrible they just don't have any TRAINING. I sent the video to her.

R&B is essentially dead and has been replaced by socially awkward people humming

There was a time when you had to actually be a good singer to make R&B music, and if you couldn’t sing but had a good look you were called a pop-star… how the tables have turned.

When he was showing the clips comparing singers today versus the older singers, i could see what he was saying. Older gen singers focused more on their talent in singing while nowadays singers focus more on visuals. Pretty much as long as they “look” appealing, their singing won’t be focused on as much. But i think the industry pushing image versus actual talent plays a huge role as well.

I was really happy he brought up Phyllis Hyman. A legendary singer that left too soon!

Mariah said in 1991 that anyone could get famous and that she just had to rely in her talent and faith to get by and now everyone denies her of her impact and her talent comparing her to the same lack luster new girls. Even she got vocal lessons from her mother. The new girls need to get vocal coaches and some individuality cause they lack more than real talent.

Additionally, these singers that want to dance and sing don't even train for that kind of stuff. The Jackson 5 and Destiny's Child grew up running on treadmills and singing to train their lungs and breath control when dancing and singing. These girls these days are LAZY. They all just wanna do a dance move here or there, be out of breath and lip sync. And the crazy thing is that these GenZ crew be praising mediocrity.

Chloe x Halle are the last of this breed for me. They had years of practice and it shows.

There are some really great singers in my gen, but I feel like most singers don’t want to show their true vocality and voice for the sake of just making hits or they’re just not that great as they say they are. Plus with R&B mixed in with Hip-Hop and Pop, it’s a mixed bag when it happens.

Dr. Mattie Moss Clark would throw her shoes at most modern day singers 🤣

I think the "tastes" of the times also factor into this as well. Music companies don't need to seek out artists that sound like Whitney or Aretha because that style of singing with the belting can sound super dated. I imagine that if Whitney came up today as a brand new artist, there's a possibility she wouldn't be as big in 2022. And music companies know that they make more money staying mainly in the lane of pop music that's fast pace, catchy, and doesn't require hitting notes and doing belts thanks to autotune.

I miss real R&B. When I was a kid I went to vocal lessons. And music was my whole life. It still is I love music a lot. But the music now n days is just missing something. There’s something bland about it.

Chloe X Halle and Ariana Grande be singing they whole life they some of the new ones that take time in their craft but something I can say about sza is that she improved from before LMFAOO

nowadays it’s more about being attractive and having a “pretty” voice that’s generic not an actual “singer” voice

damn we can legit blame Reagan for everything 😂🤦🏿‍♂️

Those comparisons were so damn funny. Lol. I forgot the 1st womans name singing. Remember seeing her on Video Soul back in the day when I was a kid. When SZA came on, I was about pass out 😂😂

I don't think one Gen can and another can't sing I just think the "popular" sound changed.

i’m pretty sure it’s just the age of music changing over the years, happens in every generation

And another thing is normnai and sza are their own person … they don’t have to sound like Aretha Franklin or any other older rnb singer

This is well explained. The same applies to some of these male artists too.

This was a great video I hope you find more of these kind of video to react to occasionally

🌓I love that you did a reaction to this video Dee, I truly enjoyed as a opera singer that sings all genres I appreciate hearing powerful singers that are respected. I was born with my singing gift and I have never went to school for training, however I have worked hard for years and still working now. Even since I’ve become disabled since 2015 I am having to work harder bc I have severe chronic pain, severe chronic nerve damage and severe chronic muscle spasms and my spine is leaking also I need help doing everything and it’s become more of a challenge but let me tell you, I still have to work on my vocal everyday and I believe if you are gifted with such a gift, you should be responsible with it, no matter what your gift is. I have been on vocal rest for over 7 years but I started back singing and I have videos on here. I will be singing on ig soon live in spite of my situation, I am determined to sing, my caregiver which is my youngest daughter and my husband will help me during the live. Thanks so much Dee for reacting to this kind of video, I look forward to seeing more wonderful videos on this channel. Have a wonderful rest of the week 🤎🙏🏾

This is 100% correct. The only singers that can probably keep up is Jazmine Sullivan, Chole and Halle, Beyoncé and Solange and whoever else was singing as a kid.

FLO a new r&b girl group from the uk shows a lot of promise their music and vocals are really good, just hope they're also willing to put in the work to improve their craft.

I completely agree with him. But to add I think that protools and auto tune have helped lower the standard as well. They can have the vocal ability on a record but then can’t recreate it live because they don’t really sound like that.

This man’s voice bothers my spirit but yeah I agree. The standards are down bad.

I don’t why people are acting like Ariana can’t sing down. I’ve seen some people discredit her because they don’t know exactly what Ariana can do with her vocals. All it take is some research out side of her pop songs and find her singing live and even then Ariana sounds better than more than half of these modern girls. Don’t forget Patti Labelle acknowledged and praised Ariana Grande’s ability to sing down. None of these other girls ever got that in anyway because their vocals are simply not on Ariana’s level.

When you have great singers like Whitney Houston, Toni Braxton, Barbra Streisand, Chaka Khan singing their hearts out to millions of people, they always sing on point because they sang when they were younger & put in a lot of practice, nowadays you have vocal filters, auto-tune that fix vocal flaws, so even though these new singers sound decent on their records, they go sing in person at concerts and don't have the vocal filters that they have in major recording studios, so they sound flat & off key. That's why a lot of these vocalist today use auto-tune to sound better, but to me they sound horrible, I guess it's just me, I'm old as fuck.

Let’s not forget when the girlies like Jennifer Hudson and so on many were being hated on for years because they sang too loud or they over sang. So now y’all complaining? The hypocrisy of it all.

It's honestly the same with the guys too. The bar has dropped since the old days with only a few people of the new generation holding it up. Across all genres though not just soul & R&B.

I like how this was throughly explained.

Your facial expressions are undefeated!

Chloe Bailey been singing all her life just saying

It’s not popular to sing like that anymore. That’s why Coco Jones isn’t poppin like that. But we ain’t gon act like we don’t have vocalists-

I like the 10,000 hours analogy he used cause that's how much it takes to be seasoned at what you do

now waitttt Chlöe can SINGGG

I love how that video starts off with Tanya Blount

Chloe shouldn’t be in the thumbnail

Damn this dude came for these people necks 😂 i mean vocal cords

What it comes down to is preference. It's been a constant these past years to be relatable with current trends in the media. Ultimately, there's music for anyone regardless of the time period but talent truly does prevail.

Back in the days and know they both have very different styles of singing and they are more airy and light while back in the day they were more powerhouse and powerful

Love the content of this vid !!

Music really has changed, you dont need talent anymore, you just have to look good. Times have changed especially because of the internet technology and stuff.

It's funny how Reagan cut funding in the arts program seeing as he was an actor. Not surprising tho because it's Reagan

I've actually took piano as a child and sung for me elementary school.. I always loved to sing. Never took it as a career tho.

Nothing can top old school music

Thank you for sharing this video , I found it very informative

I don’t necessarily agree. There are alot of new artist who use alot of autotune, and are mostly here for visuals, but artists like Normani and Chloe genuinely have singing talent, the use of autotune or voice corrector is their choice. The use of that doesnt take away from talent, and we need to get away from comparing older generation artists to new generation artists, its 2 completely different lanes

My thing is that those people mentioned were outstanding singers even in their time so it’s not like every person that came out that era was blowing down the house. I still think we also have a handful of singers that can blow down the house but, the thing is that sound of shouting and screaming matches don’t sound appealing like it did back then so of course they aren’t doing all of that now.

SZA has been training a lot. Her last performance in London, was fire. She was hitting all of the notes and gave choreo. But I agree with everything he was saying, regardless. They're not putting in the work. But the ones who are, it shows over time.

I agree with you Sis, it is what it is. Continued blessings.

this video is VERY selective IMO. first off this man chose singers purposefully that don't have much of a range which is fine because not everyone can sing but let's not be hypocrites a lot of bop to songs and love them regardless. Also this man sat there and pretended he hasn't heard chloe of halle bailey with their amazing vocals. There are too many to count that can sing with a wide range and trained talent. Also Ravyn Lenae has a beautiful voice. But also this is 2022. We aren't in the "golden age" anymore, where music has to be one thing. Now we can many genres and beats that don't require a lot of vocals, such as pop, techno, r$b, rock. What happened to fun? also lets talk about these MEN since only women are mentioned, women have to do 10 times the work a man does, but where are the male vocalist? common now, music should be enjoyed you'll find anything anywhere, you're just purposefully not looking.

Yes, he's right most of these newer artists, today can just hold a tune, but not really sing.

The sad truth is you don't have to work as hard as previous generations so🤷

On top of the Vocal Range training...it was also about Body language Posture, not sitting down Slouching Stand Up, Chin Up, Shoulders Back, so you can PROJECT and sing from your GUT (diaphram) not just your chest or throat. Not slouching n sagging down and being scared. Voices and Presence to Commanding the people had no choice but to be engaged.

I'm an old girl and when I was in high school, they taught art and music classes. They also had music and art teachers, their budget was cut and cut until no one could afford to teach it and that's sad. We even had Band I don't know if they even teach Band (Earth, Wind and Fire...Kool and the Gang learned) with all the instruments any more or, do they have their own way of making those same instrumental music sounds today. A lost art.

I'm only 6 minutes in and this is pissing me off. You CANNOT compare those singers to the mainstream singers. These people he's talking about are highly gifted singers. There's different kinds of voices and there's not enough practice in the world to make your vocal chords do what these others do. It's like everyone speaking in the same voice. All of our voices are DIFFERENT. You cannot duplicate these voices no matter how much practice you put in. Even if you DIDN'T go to church you could still have that type of voice and as long as you take care of and nurture it, you'll still be as gifted. He doesn't know how much practice any of these singers put in. Their voices are NOT built that way. There's singers out NOW that have those kind of voices but are made to dumb down their voices. Hes not making good comparisons.

"I'm glad *this* changed, chile." 😂

The thing is most people this gen don’t like that old rnb so they would never do good in the industry

HE TOLD THE TRUTH...... THE FALL OFF HAPPENED WITH " ASHANTI"...a background singer at best

social media has gotten huge so now people can become famous just by their videos getting popular on twitter. they don’t have to impress all the big executives anymore and can get signed just by having a huge following on ig/twitter

Chloe can sing tho, like she can rlly sang ballads opera type vocals

This narrator had the driest voice

Those voices still exist today, they're just not mainstream like before.

Either you SANG... Or you sing. Lol, they sing. Lol

Artist development still exists. He's still ignoring the fact that there's just not alot of singers at the caliber of these singers of the past. That's not what the labels are putting out there. There's a place for all kinds of music but let's be clear: R&B music is damn near a thing of the past. It's all about the trap beats and all the shit that takes away from the singers true vocals INCLUDING autotune. Autotune isn't new. But its being used very differently than when it was originated. So instead of you using your OWN voice to correct any mistakes they use that dumb shit. Or they want to have a specific type of sound. Anyone who truly needs autotune is not a vocalist because your voice is an instrument. Therefore you have to tune it the same way you'd tune a trumpet, violin, etc. Using autotune instead of your own instrument tune itself is detrimental to your voice as well as people believing you sound a certain way but you don't. The sad part is that even those with good voices use autotune.

You understand that old school gospel music and secular music as you get older and go through things

They used to have music programs and classes in my elementary school. I was good and now I can’t sing for sh!t 😭

Everytime Martha Wash is brought up, no one knows her yet bet you that know the two songs she sang that she wasn't credited for lol

I didnt know who the newgirls were before this video 🤣

The people who can sing will not get a spotlight if they do not fit a "marketable image."

Im not sure about the others but Chloe CAN sing

i saw that video and it opened my eyes

“ And I seen Normani on the cover, oop. “😂

I know I'm not seeing Chloe and "can't sing" in the same image??

I remember the exact moment they started taking away the arts.

CÉLINE DION'S VOICE IS🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾👑❤

A whole lot of truth 💯 🙌

It’s all about being marketable. It’s not that people are talented anymore, it’s that the people who actually are talented are usually the ones you don’t hear about. You can find more talent in the subways of NYC than on bet and billboard. I’ll take the 70s, 80s, and 90s over now and that’s coming from a gen z-er🤣

that sza clip is so old… it actually pisses me off. she improved so much

After 2000, it’s the case of “Pete and re-Pete.”

I watched this vid. Good points!

Yes, the vocalists of today are quite wack compared to their predecessors. Besides training there's another element that's lacking: the composer/song writer. Black music today is written by HIP-HOP HEADS. Singing takes a backseat to RAP. The cadence, rhythm and vibe of singing is heavily influenced by RAP. Current producers aren't looking for Chaka Khans, Whitney Houstons, Aretha Franklins etc. You don't need powerhouses if the vocalist is only going to sing the hook. Or if the vocalist is only going to rap-sing. Nowadays the true vocalists are still in the church or they are singing background.

It also has to do a lot with auto tuning your voice and the type of music that’s popular today

Dee you came to Kenya!

Idk why Chloe up they she is a vocalist… & ion even like her. Ariana is a real singer & summer walker… idk about anyone else tho