Why the new Toyota GR86 is better than the GR Supra

Why the new Toyota GR86 is better than the GR Supra - detailed full review

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Күн бұрын

New Toyota GR86 review - who needs a Supra? Is this the best manual RWD sports car for the money? Jonny was keen to see if Toyota (and Gazoo Racing) had righted the downfalls of the GT86 predecessor, which severely lacked in power and torque from its naturally aspirated Subaru boxer.
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Despite selling out in record time (in the UK at least) the £30k GR86 appears to offer phenomenal driving credentials for some £20k less than the base model Supra, Porsche Cayman and Alpine A110. Towards the end of his review Jonny paid a visit to renowned Toyota tuners Fensport (www.fensport.co.uk/) to see their 550bhp project GR Yaris and talk through the modifying potential of the GR86 off the back of the cult GT86.
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CHAPTERS
0:00 Intro
1:29 GT86 replacement
1:39 AE86 Corolla DNA
3:40 Automatic model SAFER?
5:18 More practical than you think
6:05 New tyres
7:05 Economy
8:23 Rivals Supra, Alpine, Cayman
9:30 Faster driving
9:50 Engine specs
10:38 Cabin materials
11:22 0-62
12:28 No fussy modes
13:05 Cabin
14:20 Engine sound
14:43 Suspension feel
15:28 Can Jonny fit in back seat?
17:00 Fensport visit
18:00 Fensport project Celicas
19:20 GT86 race car
19:35 Project GR Yaris
21:05 Expert look around GR86
23:54 Better than Supra?
25:23 Verdict
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@DriverGuy23 Жыл бұрын

I’m at the point in my life where I’m quite comfortable with my finances and can afford most any vehicle, but this car fills my need in every way. I’ve had several Porsches and many other expensive sports cars and they were all wonderful, but with one major flaw. They were all very expensive to maintain. I had a previous gen 86 and enjoyed it very much, but it was severely underpowered. Watched the GR86 reviews and ordered a manual premium model from my local dealer in Neptune Blue. Here’s the truth > The car is quite amazing, plenty of power and very good looking, inside & out. The car actually came with more premium standard options than my Porsches did. Plus, they drive and handle extremely well. I find the handling even more lively and more fun than all of the previous sports cars I’ve had. End result > I’ve found my new GR86 to be the best sports car I’ve owned so far and the consumables and maintenance are extremely cheap, in my opinion. I get just as much driving satisfaction from the GR86 as I did with cars 3 times the price. I’ve calculated that I’ve saved thousands of dollars in the first 10 months of ownership already by replacing my 718 with the GR86. If you can find one, it’s a must recommendation.

@rarerubber Жыл бұрын

NICE AWES0ME KEEP_IT_UP! 🎉✨🎉✨🎉🎉🎎🎭🎎🎭🎎🎭🎗🎗🎗🎗🎗🎗🎗🎑🎑🎑🎑🎑🎑🎑✨🎆

@pigupigu Жыл бұрын

Similar sentiment here. Have owned multiple 911, carrera 4s, Audi RS, Evos, STi and a slew of other high performance cars of all origins and have several Tesla at my disposal for business and daily use but I always go back to my Toyota 86 for fun drives and tracktime. It's simply more fun to drive than other high value and high performance cars. Could easily go out and buy something 5x the price and power output but there's simply no need

@bobmitchell8012 Жыл бұрын

Boring.

@stms4411 Жыл бұрын

Enjoy it! I think it’s well beyond the cost of ownership. Owned a brz (first gen) and a 981 boxster s in parallel. They are different and their differences were exciting to sample back to back. You said the word “lively”….it’s amazing really - those two cars were within 117lbs of one another (the Porsche being the heavier of the two), but the Subaru felt demonstrably more flingable and lithe. The Porsche felt more substantial and has a more sophisticated chassis. Having driven a 2022 (gr86), I’m convinced I’ll eventually get a Toyota or Subaru version and retain the boxster.

@getawayhs2856 Жыл бұрын

It's not great looking & and it won't feel special. For this sort of money, this sort of car, it's got to be an used F-Type, all day.

@cme2cau Жыл бұрын

Back in 1989, we were buying a new car for my wife. We had 2 young kids. We bought a Corolla, but the was a Celica GT4 in the showroom that my wife fell in love with. It was twice the price of the Corolla and less practical. I promised to get her a sporty car later, when the kids had grown up. We always drove manuals, even as they became scarcer here in Australia. Some of my sons' schoolfriends were surprised that our boy's mother could drive a manual! Sadly, she suffered a spinal injury that made clutch control difficult and tiring, so autos it was. Fast forward to 2018 (only took me 28 years!) and she saw it. A GT86, ignition red, in a Toyota dealer. Sadly, not for sale as it was hail damaged, but she had found the car she wanted. I went on the hunt, and an ignition red auto 86GTS turned up. 6 months old, 10,000 kms. Our trusted mechanic gave it a clean bill of health (price, 1 slab) and we have had it for 3 years now. Lovely car. The auto is really more of a GT car than a sports car, and it's a good thing for a daytrip or even further touring. At a lookout near Bowral a young boy shouted "That's a supercar!' The 86 is used for daily commuting, usually under 3000 rpm and it's basically a RWD Impreza in a party frock. It's up to 34,000 kms. The "torque hole" is well documented, but put it in manual and use the paddle shifts to keep it over 4000 and it gets along alright. The Torsen diff and Premacy tyres do make things interesting. Having spent many of my younger years driving RWD cars on dirt roads, sideways is a perfectly acceptable manner of driving... We have fitted 3 people n the car, 2 adults (one 5'2") and a small child in the back. I have always contended that a well handling car is pleasant to drive, even if the driver knows nothing about Torsen diffs and multilink suspension. My wife loves it. Neither of us are fans of the look of the GR86/BRZ (we get both in Australia) but that is purely subjective. We expect to hang on to the GTS86 for a long time.

@MrPhillipgraham Жыл бұрын

I ordered the origianl GT86 back when it first came out after taking it for a test drive. It was fantastic fun to drive and just felt 'right' from the moment I got in it. The seating position, steering, gear chance etc were just spot on. I think it had plenty of power for our public roads. You could have so much fun in it without losing your drivers license! Thanks.

@on1774 Жыл бұрын

I really love the recent story of Toyota. It's not that long ago when a lot of 'car enthusiasts' laughed at them for making the Prius. Meanwhile, they have become the best at making hybrid vehicles. And that enabled them to now make a lot of enthusiast cars and sell them in Europe because of low fleet emissions. We can all thank the Prius for that. Great review as always Jonny.

@6aloolq8 Жыл бұрын

Well said

@moldyrefrigerator Жыл бұрын

Did you guys not have the MK1-MK4 Supra, MR2, Celica, AE86 Corolla, 2000GT, etc..Toyota has been making enthusiast cars for decades before they created the Prius.

@6aloolq8 Жыл бұрын

@@moldyrefrigerator well said

@on1774 Жыл бұрын

@@moldyrefrigerator Sure, but that was before the strict emission regulations. These days, averaged CO2 emissions of every sold car must be under a certain level. If you sell a lot of hybrids/electric cars, you can than put something fun on the market as well. Big manufacturers are struggling with that (Mercedes putting a 4 cylinder into a C63, everyone dropping manual transmissions etc.). Suzuki had to stop selling the Jimny in Europe, because it was raising the emissions too much and they had to pay high fees to the EU. Even though the car was very popular…

@alfred0621 Жыл бұрын

The prius gets a lot of undeserved hate.

@andyjones8448 Жыл бұрын

Great review. I have a GT86 the Fennsport tuned to 214bhp with a loud exhaust - tremendous car on PS4's for the money. Just wish I hadn't missed out on the GR86 as it sold out so quickly. It will definitely be a classic and a sound investment. A remap and an exhaust will get it to 250bhp and will be perfection. A long term forever car. Tuning makes more sense these days than it ever did as car makers struggle to comply with emissions and sound nonsense. They won't make cars like this for long and we will miss them badly.

@TheDoosh79 Жыл бұрын

Wow Fensport, glad to see they're still going strong. I remember when they had a big power 3s-GTE engined Corolla doing the rounds in all the mags. Great memories.

@fastEdCanuck Жыл бұрын

I'd heard that Toyota also guessed that many owners of the the GT86 would swap out the factory wheels & tires right off the hop, so they didn't bother spend too much on the OEM rubber.

@anperson8329 Жыл бұрын

Even further in Japan, where the base model runs on (i believe) 16x6 steelies.

@throwback19841 Жыл бұрын

@@anperson8329 Those would make nice full size spares!

@glhs386 Жыл бұрын

The Primacies were actually inexplicably expensive. The PS4S in the same size is actually cheaper.

@zanthraxnl Жыл бұрын

@@anperson8329 Correct, they are 16" steelies instead of 17" alloys. Also, the RC version has unpainted bumpers, door handles and mirrors and no stereo, fog lights or AC. It's intended for people who want to take it racing.

@anperson8329 Жыл бұрын

@@throwback19841 If I could find the part number, I'd let you know.

@sampatankar1977 Жыл бұрын

The almost 80's style interiors are coming back..love it

@rallycrosscraig Жыл бұрын

Great update you’ve nailed the description of this new car - I feel like I’ve been out for a drive in one! Thanks

@offsideundo Жыл бұрын

Jonny Smith and Tiff Needell are still, hands down, the two best automotive on-camera presenters.

@rjhandley556 Жыл бұрын

Great review as ever Jonny. I’ve never really got onboard with the GT86 until I drove one and totally fell for them. Agree with you I think this will be future classic

@RemaL-2023 Жыл бұрын

Cracking vid. Bought many times from Fensport for our GT86 we still have after 8 years

@davidmoore349 Жыл бұрын

110kmiles on my FRS and I still love it. I am sure if I ever can get one of these I will love it.

@alexlee-isted5046 Жыл бұрын

I have one on order and cannot wait. Very late confirmation time so even advised end of next year. Glad they are finally being released after sitting in Derby built for the last 3-6 months. Great review as always Jonny

@MGT.joseee Жыл бұрын

Really appreciate your work. Thank you TLBS👍👍👍👍👍🤗

@more.power. Жыл бұрын

Thanks Jonny a excellent episode. People who have a passion for car are make them go faster you feel humbled in the presents of these people.

@captain-chunk Жыл бұрын

this will forever the Greighty Six in my brain now

@andrewkernick9326 Жыл бұрын

Great to see you visit Adrian at Fensport. I have known him for years through the Toyota Sprint Series. Such a nice, knowledgeable guy.

@shannondudley3757 Жыл бұрын

My dream car for when i grow up. Thanks for your great review Johnny. We can only hope other car makers listen. Keep it simple. Analogue if possible. It's what the people want.

@andym1908 Жыл бұрын

I love the dash lay out its nice and simple . Clear icons on the touch screen. 👏👍

@Channy132 Жыл бұрын

Interestingly, in my 2013 GT86, with the seats down I can fit my mountain bike inside the car plus a load of other kit.

@KieronTaylor Жыл бұрын

I managed a new 55" TV, but I did have to vandalise the box to get it in.

@SM-dt1pr Жыл бұрын

Do you have to take the wheels off? I have a Brompton which goes in the boot of my MX5 if I take the saddle off - I am looking at a Gt86 for this reason.

@KaldBikkje Жыл бұрын

Superb! Props for the Gatebil-hoodie, Jonny. Awesome!

@edthri Жыл бұрын

Very much liking the music introducing Fensport

@iamhayden1983 Жыл бұрын

I’m glad it’s not just me who thinks the new Prius actually looks good

@jcf1987 Жыл бұрын

Another great in-depth review Jonny 👏 Shame there isn't likely to be another car quite like this. Cheap(ish), fun, rear drive, naturally aspirated thrills.

@Lightandluck Жыл бұрын

The MX 5 is very close on spec.

@ollianddelphine Жыл бұрын

@@Lightandluck they need to bring back the s2000.

@KimSE4 Жыл бұрын

@@Lightandluck How much more development will Maza put in though? People don't buy sports cars or convertibles that much these days. The MX5's days may be numbered...

@mickl8212 Жыл бұрын

@@ollianddelphine Honda are done, they don't make anything exciting anymore apart from a ridiculously expensive Civic Type R. All of the models they used to do are now, sadly a distant memory.

@TassieLorenzo Жыл бұрын

@@mickl8212 Don't forget the TLX Type S, though that turned out a bit mediocre, and NSX Type S was only recently discontinued too and is a decent enough car. Just not exotic or well-priced enough to resonate with buyers, though in terms of the drive, the NSX Type S seems to be exciting enough with the electric system doing a good job of torque filling to reduce the sense of turbo lag. At the other end of the market, the N-One RS continues on as a sporty Kei car, even if the S660 is, sadly, discontinued (only very recently). Obviously these vehicles are all designed for different markets, and you still have the Civic Si in North America, even if it is nowhere near being powerful enough to be exciting, it does a job as a fun-to-drive very economical everyday grocery car.

@JamesDOConnor1916 Жыл бұрын

Good man johnny great work as always sir I love this car and your videos keep up the great work much respect 🙏

@TheLateBrakeShow Жыл бұрын

Cheers Jamie

@KieronTaylor Жыл бұрын

I'll have you know Mr Late Brake, I've done multiple airport runs with driver, two average height adults, a medium case and two carry ons. I mean, it wasn't exactly comfortable but sacrifices must be made! I miss my GT86.

@lollypop9580 Жыл бұрын

Really nice review, thank You Mister. 👍

@TheKiltedYaksman1 Жыл бұрын

I daily drive one, and love it. A lift-back would have been a lot more practical, but It would have weighed a good deal more.

@simonwheatley3351 Жыл бұрын

LOL - you put your chairs in it!! Brilliant!! Really pleased about the economy figures and that it is comfortable on a trip. Should get mine in 2023. Really looking forward to it.

@marknorman8112 Жыл бұрын

I'm glad you looked properly before pulling out of that junction. That truck would have put an end to this channel 😂

@TheLateBrakeShow Жыл бұрын

We knew someone would say that...

@mickmcc2158 Жыл бұрын

Always glad to see a quick Toyota & im glad they didn’t mess around with the styling from the GT. Also, I’m glad you still have the brown chairs. Looking forward to another Idle Chat👏👏

@scottishcarenthusiastsandtrain Жыл бұрын

Another fantastic episode Johnny, great to see a new car that's got a manual gearbox and set up to be a drivers car instead of technology everywhere.

@KobayashiMaru86 Жыл бұрын

Great review, Jonny. Mine should be here this month if Toyota can pull their finger out. Can't wait

@Nemoticon Жыл бұрын

Supra 2.0 is 200kg heavier than the GR86! No doubt the Supra is a great car, but not worth 20k more than its smaller sibling. Thing to remember is, not everyone who drives a sportscar car are sporty drivers and there's notihng wrong with that. Many buyers just want a good looking car and if that rsults them in picking up a GR86 with autobox or the 2.0 Supra, that's just extra sales for Toyota.

@nickdrouet1502 Жыл бұрын

Excellent review Jonny! I have a supercharged GT86 - an approach that fixes both the power and torque problems of the original before the GR86. They are truly magical things. I very nearly sold it - but the V8 Vantage and the 911 that I drove as potential replacements didn't have nearly the levels of feel or fun of the 86. I know the GR86 is unobtanium, but anyone looking for wicked fun and aren't badge snobs, take a look - you won't be disappointed!

@Comakino Жыл бұрын

I'd be tempted to get a GT86 and tune it for the price of a new one of these, if that were an option.

@GM-fh5jp Жыл бұрын

With regard to "badge snobs"...real car guys see the Toyota badge as a badge of honor. Excellent engineering, unbreakable engines, great electrics and good resale value. As for the rest of them...who cares what *they* think?

@axiomxperia7875 Жыл бұрын

@@GM-fh5jp but it's not a toyota engine.

@GM-fh5jp Жыл бұрын

@@axiomxperia7875 It was developed with the help and input of Toyota engineers so it has the essential Toyota DNA. "Badge snobs" refer to the badge on the car not the individual components no?

@triode2a3 Жыл бұрын

you may have dodged a bullet with the vantage - my colleague has had a major engine issue and is looking at 30K - that will have got a you a new GR86 - but wait, you can't get one!

@_Makanko_ Жыл бұрын

Awesome car. Thanks for the thorough review Jonny

@thatdave86 Жыл бұрын

Tis what cars should be like ,rather than trying to drive a laptop on wheels Great video and toy keep things real.

@mrlionrocks Жыл бұрын

I love your voice and general demeanour x

@johnmcreynolds5299 Жыл бұрын

Hey J I’ve owned my GT 86 for 5 years or so! Done a few mods,the tyres are the best starting point! Pilot Sports4/5s are the ones to go for! Fantastic car and not expensive to maintain! Use premium fuel and it goes great, as for the torque dip….. just drive it hard and you’ll not notice it!!!! Love mine and love new one too!!👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 3:26 😊

@S18DMW Жыл бұрын

Another quality review. There is a BRZ alongside the GRRRRR86 though, sadly we're not getting it in the UK though. I've got the previous shape BRZ, a manifold/remap package fixes the torque issue of the old car. And some PS4's have fixed the issue with the previously terrible tyre choice

@triode2a3 Жыл бұрын

Done the exact same with my GT86. I don't feel massive FOMO on the GR. Have owned my 86 from new (2012) and recent mods (from Adrian at Fensport) have upped the fun factor and should keep enjoying it for the next 10 years. If I get really bored, I'll just reach for a supercharger or turbocharger.

@NZGlenn Жыл бұрын

Great review Johnny. Mine is arriving in the new year, can’t wait!! BTW, there is a lot of pumped in engine noise through the stereo. It can be disconnected.

@DanielDrives Жыл бұрын

Excellent video, Jonny. I do like what Toyota have done with the GR86, it's a true driver's car. Also, that GR Yaris is a beast!

@TazBo-wd2ig Жыл бұрын

This guy is so pleasant to speak with. What a top bloke!

@darrenliggett7222 Жыл бұрын

Love your Gatebill hoodie Jonny, what an event that is, I hope to go back again sometime

@phenomanII Жыл бұрын

16:11 this man is so good at reviewing cars, he doesn't even have to think about it I see you showing off the cupholders Jonny, don't you dare think noone noticed :P

@clifftonsfly Жыл бұрын

That does look like it could be a rather annoying button placement.

@TheRealKaner Жыл бұрын

@@clifftonsfly yep..was going to say that. Seems to be a 'feature' of those clamshell type cubby hole/armrests...blooming annoying.

@birdshenanigans8506 Жыл бұрын

That's what his advertisers said. Wake up to your self!

@SaXXXon Жыл бұрын

Love the hoodie ;) great review!

@duncanajpv8 Жыл бұрын

It's the GT86 that will be the classic, the fact that it's slightly flawed, doesn't change the fact that it's the original, designed by one man, fron the ground up. An amazing car, and yes I'm an owner.

@patreekotime4578 Жыл бұрын

The only way youll catch me watching a nearly 30 minute long review of a combustion engine car is if Jonny Smith is reviewing it. And Ive enjoyed every moment of it.

@jamesprince4991 Жыл бұрын

Great to see you having a new sponsor. :)

@chuckcribbs3398 6 ай бұрын

I really enjoyed this video, even though it’s a year old. There is a blue GR86 coming to my local dealer in the same Neptune blue. Might have to test drive it.

@Reddsoldier Жыл бұрын

Picked up a GT86 2 weeks ago as my new car and your point about being more than numbers is immediately what I'd say about the predecessor too. I think it has to do with the car being (relatively) small and you sitting very low to the ground. It amplifies what you are doing. 0-60 feels like you're blasting along, and B roads turn into long stretched out circuits with the weighty steering feel and the slick pedals and gearshift making you feel like you're driving a go-kart along. My only gripe so far is that the Volume knob for the stereo is on the left of the head unit which means you have to lean across like you're grabbing stuff out of the glovebox to adjust something as trivial as the volume of your music. It annoys me, but its the price I pay for the beautifully unblemished steering wheel which is absent of any buttons. I genuinely can't think of any modern cars that share this trait, short of maybe a Morgan? Car trivia people, HMU, are there any other cars that don't have wheel buttons aside from the old GT86?BRZ/FRS?

@nicholasmatthews5989 Жыл бұрын

It is great that you are enjoying your GT86. Regarding "...unblemished steering wheel which is absent of any buttons...". It is very rare nowadays. When there was an update of the GT86, buttons were added to the steering wheel which removed that purity, but the bonus is that the volume of the stereo can be adjusted from the steering wheel and phone calls can be answered. When recently watching a review of the new McLaren Artura, it was big surprise (in a good way) that it's steering wheel does not have any buttons on it, whilst the Ferrari 296GTB has a smorgasbord of buttons.

@duncanajpv8 Жыл бұрын

I've had my '86 for over 2 years now and agree with everything you've written. I'm rare in the fact I love the engine! Perfect car for me, a keeper.

@plunder1956 Жыл бұрын

It's funny seeing you dig those chairs out of the back and remembering you doing the same with Mike B. A friend of mine plays Baritone sax and he got the HUGE case into his coupe, I was shocked. He even got his bike in it.

@michaellorenson2997 Жыл бұрын

Excellent, thanks. And, the answer is 'yes'.

@bondy284 Жыл бұрын

Great review as always Jonny !!!!.👍 I like GR 86 however I’ll stick with my GR Yaris🇦🇺

@360degree3 Жыл бұрын

I have owned a GT86 Aero and I have enjoyed every single drive. I jumped to GT86 from a BMW M235i and I can say I still love GT86 than any other car I have owned. People says GT86 is under powered, but I never felt like it was missing on power. Maybe a touch more torque would have been better but again thats me being greedy. For UK roads and rules, GT86 is a perfect car and you can enjoy every drop of fuel and not loose your license. The best part was that the rear end of the car gives you a touch of a slip but corrects it easily which was awesome. Such a no nonsense car that was. With some decent exhaust and speakers (if u like to listen to music in cars), GT86 was a killer. I regret selling it. I am sure GR86 will take it to the next level and in near future the GR86 will become a collectors car like BMW 1M/ original Supra. Congratulations to all who could place an order for GR86 and for people who already have GT86 or missed GR86, get hold of a GT86 before they become super expensive as these are future classics. Enjoy driving and be safe.😊

@edward1591 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Jonny - pretty much my ideal car. Not stupid power (which you can't use), accessible feel and adjustability, not Porsche money. This and the old GT86 reminded me of James Hunt's alleged preference for an Austin A40 van....drive everywhere on the limit, at 40mph.

@olih. Жыл бұрын

Great balanced review as always. I’d love to have a drive

@briananthony4044 Жыл бұрын

Sounds okay, as long as it's quiet at steady speed. Many owners will still make them louder with after market exhausts. Love the analogue controls and handbrake. It's designed for singles, couples, and couples with young kids. When the kids get older, compliment with a people mover.

@AbrahamArthemius Жыл бұрын

To be fair, nearly every car nowadays is quiet (even the sporty ones) because of regulation stuff happening in the background.

@AmjadJDM Жыл бұрын

Would LOVE to see Jonny review the Fensport GRY! 😍

@SkaffenUK Жыл бұрын

Really appeals to me as well, just like the Jimny. Love the lack of needless technology.

@waveman1500 Жыл бұрын

You have a big global audience Jonny, GR86 and new BRZ are both available to order in Australia. There are waiting lists, but not totally unavailable.

@AnonymousAndy2 Жыл бұрын

I would love at GT86 or GR86 unfortunately I need rear seats that fit adults. My daughter is a slender 5.2 & couldn’t get in with her equally small friend! I love that it’s old school, manual, proper handbrake, rear wheel drive & if I didn’t need to use it as a family car I would have bought one ages ago.

@jholmes_ Жыл бұрын

Own a turbo'd 2015 GT86 and collecting the GR on Thursday.

@mementos24 11 ай бұрын

Great review, its a shame that these are limited in the UK. Im from Canada and should be getting my BRZ in two weeks from now and just ordered it.

@ECG1OOO Жыл бұрын

That silly bloody cubby hole / cup holder lid button. Perfectly placed for a rogue elbow!

@stephanematis Жыл бұрын

I leased the previous edition BRZ and almost exclusively used it for long continent wide road trips. Winter visit from Canada to the Florida keys would have me stop at the Georgia welcome center, swap my Hakkapeliitta winter tires for lovely summer slicks, to the dismay of other drivers who stopped there. On the way home, reverse the change. Easy peasy. So much more space in the car that 2-3 weeks long roadtrips were a breeze. Looking to grab another and enjoy it, likely keeping it for a very long time.

@grayfool Жыл бұрын

The GReighty 6 is now what it should always have been. And thank god they haven't overdone the useless tech. Excellent video Jonny.

@davidgrove9795 Жыл бұрын

Excellent review (first UK one I’ve seen) gutted I missed out on one. I’d really love one. New to the channel was at the Aston workshop the other evening (basically Nottingham). Subscribed. 😊

@TheLateBrakeShow Жыл бұрын

Thank you David. Glad you have joined The Late Brake Show, on that side of things.

@davidgrove9795 Жыл бұрын

Had to come back to my own comment, managed to secure one of the second wave GR86s! 🎉🎉🎉

@aroundomaha Жыл бұрын

You have a different and refreshing viewpoint on the 86/BRZ. I ordered and received my BRZ in late 2021 after considering similar prices options. There weren’t many and after a full year of owning it I have few regrets. One thing that I would change is that the passenger seat doesn’t raise/lower. Other than that they 100% nailed the emotional chemistry of the update.

@TheLateBrakeShow Жыл бұрын

Thanks for commenting David. The emotional chemistry is a formula more car makers could do with in 2022,...

@aroundomaha Жыл бұрын

@@TheLateBrakeShow A website said that there were only 3,000 BRZ sold in the U. S. this year. Limited numbers may escalate its status more quickly.

@TassieLorenzo Жыл бұрын

"One thing that I would change is that the passenger seat doesn’t raise/lower. " That's pretty normal for most Japanese cars. I think a height-adjustable passenger seat seems to be European thing (likewise having a wheel to adjust the backrest instead of a lever).

@kalmmonke5037 Жыл бұрын

@@TheLateBrakeShow gr 86 is lectric steering right? even on prius, why not have fixed presures hydrallic steering to allow knowin grip limit, ideally with a light to show how far from grip limit the car is when gettting bit close(for new driver enthisust), to allow minimal and steady braking and steering for effeincy and longveity even with regernatiev braking , because energy going in and out leads to batteyr degradation and the process preserves less energy than maintiang speed around the turn. a hydrallic electric peemptivly suspension stifensing accoridng to body roll as known by , maybe radiation supension compression level meter, can allow preserving more momentum around turns then soften things again for less bumpy ride, maybe it can be manual lever based, or at least just manual adjustible suspension likeon lc500 nd polestar. maybe inerter style j damper regernative suspension,FRIC, heave spring like in kyle engineers video, etc sort of stuff focused for effiency. rear seat facin the rear, flat maybe of of these can be AFTERMARKET stuff , but there isnt going to be demand unless media creates demand

@phirozemackenzie9293 6 ай бұрын

Great Review Jonny. Really tipped me over into getting one. Toyota still have some. My order for a red GR86 went in yesterday. Still had 9 others at time of order on Toyota UK system. The scarcity hype is a bit over egged now.

@Espayou Жыл бұрын

Great video as always! Whats the story with the Gatebil hoodie?

@beachboy0505 Жыл бұрын

Amazing car, good review 👏

@gryphon123456 Жыл бұрын

I own an original 86. People say they're not in love w the engine sounds. I gotta tell you, at 4500 rpm in the original when it come on song it sounds wonderful to me. Has a bit of a v-tec sound. with a proper exhaust it sounds even better.

@bolf Жыл бұрын

I knew you was heading to Fensport , I recognised the roads :)

@TheLateBrakeShow Жыл бұрын

You are a wise one......

@shadowred1980 Жыл бұрын

Many tried to order one, I hope they can make more of them available. I'd forgotten you were part of the revs\max power mags. Fensport, I seam to remember a 1.8 corolla with a supercharger on it from them. Superb car.

@ncmartinez_his Жыл бұрын

Yes. We need more analog cars.

@Silver-st2zq Жыл бұрын

Excellent review and love what Toyota have done with both Hybrid and their GR range 👍

@chriscaarnold Жыл бұрын

I had an gt86 and loved it. I was waiting for the gr86, looks like i will be getting another gt86 or brz next.

@ckim420 Жыл бұрын

Good to see Johnny Smith! I haven't seen him since Fifth Gear!

@TheLateBrakeShow Жыл бұрын

Welcome to the channel. He's made a few videos in the last few years!

@ArmySigs Жыл бұрын

Ordered mine last week :) The 230hp figure is actually BS, that's why it feels faster. These usually dyno around 245hp at the crank and 215hp at the wheels. Extremely impressive for a 2.4 NA engine at this price point. Most def an instant classic!

@alexanderstefanov6474 Жыл бұрын

Typical Toyota, their 1.2t is supposed to be 116bhp, but dynos at about 140. I think they lie for some markets tax purposes...

@ronanmcnamee2008 Жыл бұрын

Love to see one of these drag race against a Jap spec S2000

@tufluxed3293 Жыл бұрын

Im assuming u aren’t in the UK if u ordered one last week cuz our allocation sold out in like 20 minutes 😢

@ArmySigs Жыл бұрын

In Australia, they only became available for order last month here

@sgtmuffinbadger6147 Жыл бұрын

I call BS. The ones down here on the dyno get around 235 top

@769Del Жыл бұрын

I’ve got one on order due for delivery sometime this month (after a lengthy, lengthy delay)! Cannot wait to take delivery.

@btd836 Жыл бұрын

10:53 order. At the current rate mine will arrive in Dec 2023. I'm regretting spending 20 minutes agonising over colour now. I hope you enjoy yours.

@769Del Жыл бұрын

@@btd836 what colour did you go for? Having one on order makes you lucky at all, something to look forward to! May also get a cancelled order, seen a few of those bump people up already.

@btd836 Жыл бұрын

@Michael Delahorne Sapphire blue, like in this video. Seems rarer based on the list on GRZoo. I was very tempted by Neptune blue. I thought it was a bit too boy racer for me.

@johnybigarms Жыл бұрын

I went for Neptune Blue and took 40 minutes to get my order in, was a real pain just getting to see the car on the Toyota website that morning, reckon I may be lucky to see it late 2023 according to Toyota, but I’m fine with that, I know I’m lucky to be on the list of under 450 cars, numbers not to be extended in the U.K. which is silly as they could sell another 1000 in a heart beat, although I’m smug a little that they are so rare 😊

@btd836 Жыл бұрын

@t3pro ltd Yeah I had difficulty too. First tried the toyota website. Sat there for 20 minutes but no order page appeared. Then went via link in email to a seemingly identical page that worked. Neptune blue will look awesome.

@James-semaJ Жыл бұрын

I've not watched one of your videos for a few weeks now Jonny. The algorithm seems to be messed up because I haven't been recommended them. Missed you lol.

@olechristianmland6588 Жыл бұрын

Love the Gatebil hoodie, you have to come over for next years festival!

@matthewstapleford7774 Жыл бұрын

I've had my base GR86 for 7 months now. Traded in a 13 FRS for it. I loved my 13, but this car is just better in every way. Just wish I could have still gotten it in Hot Lava!

@peanutbutterpadre1519 Жыл бұрын

I was ready to put 30% down on one of these but with markups I just went and bought the best e36 I could find. I have to chase down a passenger door rattle but it’s so damn good to drive.

@mrmawson2438 Жыл бұрын

It is a classic. Great video Jonny Electricity

@TheG60528XiJinPing Жыл бұрын

4:40 they understand if you have a manual you are already paying attention.

@TassieLorenzo Жыл бұрын

😃 ...strictly Subaru's implementations of those safety systems don't work with the manual transmission for some reason, even though other auto maker can get those systems to work with manual. But I would rather not have a car that beeps and bongs all the time, it seems like it would be annoying.

@GazzUnseen Жыл бұрын

Excellent review of a thoroughly impressive car. Would love to see how it fares on a track…

@876yuugt Жыл бұрын

Excellent video

@drewgilker417 Жыл бұрын

I love my add blocker

@paulleggett9735 Жыл бұрын

Such am honest car. It sike a car of 10 years ago but with modern build quality. It's a shame the Corolla GR isn't coming to the UK, that seems like a perfect UK car.

@joaquinjavaloyesruiz8040 Жыл бұрын

There are not more cars like this. I felt in ❤

@FraxinusExelsior Жыл бұрын

These kinds of cars is what the car world needs, simple and light, no gimmicks. Having said that id rather buy a E46 330ci (or tuned E36 328) that has the same 0-62 for a fifth of the money...

@sq1rlsqu4d Жыл бұрын

17:07 - Oh my, that GR Yaris...I've come over all faint 😍

@charris939 Жыл бұрын

I am in Australia and have put an order in for a BRZ manual, it should be arriving some time next year. I’ve only test driven the auto which was still impressive. Buying a car I’ve never driven and I don’t care!

@duress8801 11 ай бұрын

Did it arrive ?

@leewatkeys9065 Жыл бұрын

Great content again Jonny. Good work

@stuartsmith5308 Жыл бұрын

Like to see Jonny review AirCon in different cars

@EdgyNumber1 Жыл бұрын

I can tell you now, the 2.4 CAN BE used in the GT84. All late Subaru powertrains are modular. Subaru hasn't got huge moneybags so any way to reduce their costs is a big deal. I'd be interested to see of a AWD conversion would be possible though.