Why The Suicide Squad Worked where Garbage Squad Failed

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Warner Brothers is back with another new DC movie that replaces a bad one from before, much like was the case with Zack Snyder's cut of Justice League and Josstice League. So let's do the same thing as last time and compare 2021's The Suicide Squad directed by James Gunn to 2016's Suicide Squad not directed by David Ayer, to see if and how it improves on its core flaws, which we covered a couple years ago in the Anatomy of a Failure episode of Suicide Squad. The suicide squad did become a bit of a box office flop though, for various reasons, but because of that interesting to see if Warners will release the Ayer Cut of the original as well or if they've just moved on altogether.
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The Suicide Squad (2021)
Welcome Belle Reve prison, where you'll find the worst of the world's worst supervillains. And they'll do anything to get out - even join... Task Force X. Join Bloodsport (Idris Elba), Peacemaker (John Cena), Blackguard (Pete Davidson), everyone’s favorite psycho, Harley Quinn (Margot Robbie) and other weaponized bad-guys on the enemy-infused island of Corto Maltese for a search-and-destroy mission. With only Colonel Rick Flag (Joel Kinnaman) on the ground and Amanda Waller’s (Viola Davis) government techies in their ears, it's a high stakes game.
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Zack Snyder's Justice League (2021)
In Zack Snyder's Justice League, determined to ensure Superman’s (Henry Cavill) ultimate sacrifice was not in vain, Bruce Wayne (Ben Affleck) aligns forces with Diana Prince (Gal Gadot) with plans to recruit a team of metahumans to protect the world from an approaching threat of catastrophic proportions. The task proves more difficult than Bruce imagined, as each of the recruits must face the demons of their own pasts to transcend the suicide squad cut honest trailer everything wrong with the suicide squad vs suicide squad comparison watch the suicide squad movie online 4k hd clip deadshot starro suicide squad ending fight rats ratcatcher all peacemaker scenes suicide squad ending explained reaction suicide squad king shark funniest moments manhunter allowing them to come together, Floyd Lawton shows Deadshot | Suicide Squad peacemaker funny scenes peacemaker vs bloodshot the suicide squad opening scene beach fight battle all weasel scenes finally the suicide squad clip hd forming an unprecedented the suicide squad best moments funny moments video essay of heroes. Now united, Batman (Affleck), Wonder Woman (Gadot), Aquaman (Jason Momoa), Cyborg (Ray Fisher), Zack Snyder's Justice League Justice is gray edition and Moist Meter | The Suicide Squad best of king shark The Flash (Ezra Miller) why is the snyder cut better than justice league snyder cut or justice league may be too late to save the planet from Steppenwolf, DeSaad, and Darkseid and their dreadful intentions.
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Suicide Squad (2016)
In this "super-antihero" movie directed by David Ayer (Fury), a team of incarcerated villains -- including Deadshot (Will Smith), Harley Quinn (Margot Robbie), El Diablo (Jay Hernandez), Killer Croc (Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje), Enchantress (Cara Delevingne), and Captain Boomerang (Jai Courtney) -- are recruited by the government for a dangerous mission in exchange for reduced sentences. Jared Leto makes a cameo appearance as the Joker. Joel Kinnaman and Viola Davis co-star. Based on the DC Comics series.

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@BenAri18 2 жыл бұрын

"No one likes a show off" "Unless what they showing off is dope as f***" *That dialogue was fire*

@dyliera.velazqueznidoknigh6089 2 жыл бұрын

Bloodsport: “FUCK…. That’s true…” That shit had me fucking dyin dude 😂

@williamzebub3252 2 жыл бұрын

That whole sequence from eliminate with extreme prejudice to "my mother in my head and killed them!" was fire.

@saghhinooz1755 2 жыл бұрын

John cena delivered that line perfectly

@kofiboakye6173 2 жыл бұрын

@@saghhinooz1755 true

@spectre1004 2 жыл бұрын

I loved when he randomly started speaking ****

@natek4488 2 жыл бұрын

2016: When a studio has full control 2021: When a creator has full control

@landofnoone7048 2 жыл бұрын

And I am still feeling bad about 2016 Squad. It could be a good movie with cool dark, but still bright style with blood, dark humor and badass characters. But something went wrong and we got Joker who was fixed only with Snyder's help, enough characters we don't actually care, okay jokes, but could be better and boring villian with boring motivation. But in 2021 film, James had too much control, because sometimes gory stuff made me bored and petty much childish jokes. But the second part of movie was just perfect.

@curtisjackson5793 2 жыл бұрын

just watch Snyder's Army of The Dead and you'll see that even when a creator has full control it doesn't guarantees a good movie

@garycannon4644 2 жыл бұрын

didnt this movie do pretty poorly at the box office?

@cutthroat4274 2 жыл бұрын

James Gunn wanted superman to be the villain of the new suicide squad movie but that wasnt possible so starro it was

@thegreatrainman2336 2 жыл бұрын

@@curtisjackson5793 🤣

@BlackSkullArmor 2 жыл бұрын

I went into the cinema with zero expectations. I came out caring very sincerely about a guy committed to peace no matter the cost, a guy raised to be a weapon his whole life, a girl who can control rats, a man covered in explosive polka dots, a shark man thing who can barely string a sentence together, a soldier who had to keep his eye on this merry band of misfits and a gigantic alien starfish who missed his home in space.

@SuperOmnicronsj44 Жыл бұрын

No Gunn wil have ever y HIGH expectation placed on him for Superman. There's no goofy or quirky characters. There's no misfits, other than Lobo who is a villain of Superman / Lantern Corps. He can do goofy sh*t , but can he do classic heroes? Particularly after the divisive handling of Henry Cavill.

@TheBaBaTV Жыл бұрын

@@SuperOmnicronsj44 DC and universal are terrible at organization, filming, writers, etc.. they made too many Batman’s , they can’t be proper like MCU IS !

@jmecucci Жыл бұрын

@@TheBaBaTV I won't disagree with your DC and universal comment, but the MCU is anything but proper these days, it's a damn mess with the garbage they are putting out these days. It used to be proper, but I think Disney took it off the cliff at this point...

@sebl9710 Жыл бұрын

@@SuperOmnicronsj44 So because he didn't re-sign Cavil, he can't write something good? How does that work exactly? Genuinely curious

@davidtucker9498 Жыл бұрын

@@sebl9710 No, people simply view the decision as horribly callous, which it was. The question remains: Can he make a genuine, heartfelt character like Superman? Or can he only do tongue and cheek misfit heroes? Why can he still work at Disney after openly "joking" about being a pedophile, but so many others are cancelled permanently for far, far less? Was he one of the people listed in Epstein's black book that has been hidden from the public? Did Epstein kill himself? Time will tell...

@lampham5525 Жыл бұрын

James Gunn is really genuis, he make people sympathize about the raccoon, the tree, the girl who control the rat, the shark and the guy who throw polka dot at people.

@blaisemomin1106 10 ай бұрын

Don't forget, even that giant kaiju starfish

@KILLCOLONIALISM 9 ай бұрын

That is why he is perfect to run the next wave of DC movies. The heroes in the DCEU were very hard to sympathize with and relate to. Characters most of us grew up watching in cartoons who were relatable and grounded despite their superhuman ability's. I think that was the main reason the DCEU failed where as the MCU worked so well. Stunning visuals does not make up for unrelatable characterizations of heroes we all love.

@concept5631 8 ай бұрын

@@KILLCOLONIALISM I dare say I'm excited to see what the DCU will become if Superman: Legacy is a hit.

@benjaminwright-rj9xc 5 ай бұрын

I'm so bummed that polka dot man didn't survive.

@Puppy_Puppington 4 ай бұрын

@@benjaminwright-rj9xcyeah but that’s the price we pay for a good film :(

@Jonkstrap 2 жыл бұрын

“ITS YOUR MUM!” The greatest Indirect yo mama joke in a movie scene

@Jose-se9pu 2 жыл бұрын

I never expected a black man saying that in a dramatic way....James Gunn knew damn well what he was doing.

@chandleralves698 2 жыл бұрын

I've never seen a yo mama joke being used as a motivational device. Respect to this movie 😂

@Lucifer-xf8bm 2 жыл бұрын

Kinda feel it will be better if he actually said "it's yo MOMA" imo

@fernandogimenez7520 2 жыл бұрын

I laughted so hard in that scene. So simple and yet, so on point

@Jonkstrap 2 жыл бұрын

@@Lucifer-xf8bm nah the original is fuckin gold

@hishamrashid5293 2 жыл бұрын

When you realise the reason why Rick, Harley, and boomerang were in the distraction team was because they made Waller mad in the last movie.

@allither6310 2 жыл бұрын

I still think killing boomerang off in the beginning was a bad choice, what a waste of a great character

@Secretxxx67 2 жыл бұрын

Even the james gunn cant tell if this was a reboot or sequel *source imdb the suicide squad trivia

@walloper9972 2 жыл бұрын

Are they confirmed as the distraction team? I dont see why Waller would put Flag, Quinn etc up for death. It also wouldnt make sense that she was angry that they were sold out, i think they were meant to meet up at some point but obviously couldnt. Seems like a waste of power.

@blehbleh2574 2 жыл бұрын

@@walloper9972 by the looks of it, she mightve been aware of Rick's behaviour regarding the secret US involvement part and how he might expose it so maybe she wanted an "oops rick died in the battlefield" plan hence him being in the distraction team. But since he survived she had no choice but to order them to save him.

@OpticalShadow 2 жыл бұрын

@@walloper9972 Well, it wasnt really a waste or power. Harley is just a person, not a super human, same with rick, same with boomer. On top of that, if we assume the last movie happened, they also were proven to be people that actively worked against the main plan, were unreliable. If the last movie didnt happen, than harley is a smart, but loose cannon, boomer doesnt offer much, and rick while a talented soldier, is still just a regular highly trained soldier, of which the military likely has plenty of, but still a leader and someone needed to lead an assualt. Nobody in group A really offered much in terms of power. Group B however contained two people that were extra ordinary in terms of their lethality, but also very mission orientated people, with bloodsport having a unique and powerful arsenal to boot, and peacemaker being the one person waller knew would adhear to the mission, because they could frame the peace side of it. Thats his unique power that set him apart from bloodsport in the beginning when he said they are the same. They werent, Peacemaker would be utterly undetered by any factor to finishing his specific task, destroying evidence. Rat catcher had a versitile skill, and powerful, polkadot man had an insane offensive power, and shark daddy was basically a unstoppable force that could shore up their numbers issue, and to stupid to understand he couldnt have been stopped by waller himself. Squad B had all the actual power, both physical, supernatrual, and most importantly mentally. Squad A didnt have anyone, outside maybe savant, who was going to be able to be relied on to stick to the mission, to do what needed to be done, and not screw around. All of the crazy people or immature people were in squad A.

@salt-emoji 2 жыл бұрын

James Gunn getting fired then singlehandedly saving the very next comic franchise he works on is legendary.

@cvrriculum1322 Жыл бұрын

Now is dc’s time to shine he’s going to be like a Kevin feige

@alexanderwindh4830 Жыл бұрын

They lost money with Gunn. The movie is forgettable just like guardians 2. How are they winning?

@SuperOmnicronsj44 Жыл бұрын

How does one save a comic franchise when it bombed at the box office and the first "garbage" one made more money which is David Zaslav's goal? Legendary is ENDGAME. Legendary is the DARK KNIGHT TRILOGY. Gunn is already 0-1 after Henry Cavill was fired. We shall see. He's going to have to make an incredible and MAINSTREAM popular film with Superman and the rest of the DCEU. I know he can do Lobo and Green Lantern Corps and SS 3 ... but Superman?

@187mrsmith Жыл бұрын

@@alexanderwindh4830 Guardians of Galaxy 2 is not forgettable you're just a Marvel fan boy because Marvel became big you probably never ever read a comic or even knew of any plots before it became supermain stream with the avengers movies! People like you that aren't even real comic book fans r what's wrong with the bandwagon Marvel fans

@187mrsmith Жыл бұрын

@@TheBaBaTV Ya'll forget mcu took a while to get off the ground Not every movie was great Iron man 3 sucked avengers ultron sucked don't act like marvel is perfect Doctor strange 2 sucked Thor love and thunder sucked those did decent at the box office but not like the 1s before it! Marvel's most recent phase started off so bad that people were starting to jump ship and get confused to where was even going to the point they had to leak what the plot line is for future movies just to keep people invested so tf u talking bout bandwagon fan boy im a real Marvel an DC fan All real Marvel fans know DC has been the better franchise for a better part of a 100 years Marvel just started catching up and taking the lead because of the movies but comics wise DC still leaps an bounds above marvel Most of your favorite Marvel characters were stolen and copied from D c's characters that came 20 30 40 years before them so know u history b4 u sux dic just 2 sux dic It's easy to jump on the winning team after their winning aka a fake bandwagon fan like u an the other dude lmao

@mansishukla6779 2 жыл бұрын

I thought Harley's portrayal in the film was pretty accurate - in her own crazy way, she strikes a balance between her intentions and her emotions which is reflected in how she fights and when she chooses to fight back. She acted impulsively at first - but after killing the dictator and being tortured for a while, she killed everyone using her skills which she clearly has been honing well - in terms of combat experience, she's up there with Flag and Peacemaker. She can strategise but she can also improvise- the wild card element works very well for Harley. Besides that, this movie was a really good story in itself, despite many characters dying early on - the movie made us care about the characters it simultaneously introduced and Flag's death hit hard, not to mention how devastating it was to lose Polka Dot Man. Plus, yeah, Ratcatcher 2 had the best backstory and her friendship with Bloodsport was simply natural and wholesome.

@Tom_Cruise_Missile Жыл бұрын

The sense of actual danger was what made it a good suicide squad movie. When they killed the first team you knew it was going to get real, and they weren't scared of killing characters we actually like and know later on.

@AVA-ee4pk 3 ай бұрын

@@Tom_Cruise_Missile to add on to your point, I felt that after a while you get comfortable and start thinking no one will die/ no one more will die, only to be corrected in a relatively crushing way. You stop expecting characters to die and let yourself get attached, only for them to die in such a reasonable way you can’t even contest it, making each death have an impact

@Gta78503 2 ай бұрын

2016: suicidal squad 2020: sacrifice squad

@Arcademan09 2 жыл бұрын

They made me genuinely care about someone named "the Polka Dot Man", that alone is a huge win

@forickgrimaldus8301 2 жыл бұрын

Coincidentally his actor has a skin condition where he forms spots on his skin. Just not as colorful though.

@CidGuerreiro1234 2 жыл бұрын

It made me feel sorry for a giant starfish space monster.

@Gr3nadgr3gory 2 жыл бұрын

You should look into Kite man, Hell Yeah!

@abdullahamr9941 2 жыл бұрын

@@Gr3nadgr3gory I get the reference

@lelanddyer9461 2 жыл бұрын

So like, what? He just throws polka dots?

@AzA609 2 жыл бұрын

King Shark getting betrayed by his little fish friends was sad. 😔

@elisejackson2854 2 жыл бұрын

He eats people, they eat him.

@JimboPro 2 жыл бұрын

he should've retracted his statement "new dumb friends" then maybe they wouldn't attack him

@skullgamer7493 2 жыл бұрын

They were never his friends 😡

@Icerope-km9lu 2 жыл бұрын

I thought for sure he was gonna die there

@Lultschful 2 жыл бұрын

Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but could be a comment on how when you have no friends, you're sometimes so eager to make friends that you fail to notice when someone isn't good friend material and just out to eat/manipulate you rather than build a real friendship. Okay, yeah, maybe reading too much into it. :D

@mlgamings6110 2 жыл бұрын

I love how in the Peacemaker show we finally see why Peacemaker is so obsessed with peace.

@josho7138 Жыл бұрын

Why

@Posiman 10 ай бұрын

@@josho7138In the show White Dragon is his father, a white supremacist supervillain who raises both Peacemaker and his brothers to be aryan death machines and makes them constantly fight each other. After Peacemaker accidentally kills his brother in one such a fight, his father also develops a deep hatred and abusive behavior towards him. This makes Peacemaker reevalue his father's ideology, choosing to fight for peace instead. But he keeps the same methods and the same disregard for human life because he actually knows no better. Exactly as Rick Flagg said: "Peacemaker, what a joke." He's not a peace-loving man with some questionable methods, he's a deeply violent, abusive man, who chose "peace" as an excuse so that he can feel good about himself.

@OneLefft 8 ай бұрын

@@Posiman nuh uh

@asherwoodrow7471 8 ай бұрын

@@OneLefft that has to be the best counter argument i have ever seen

@concept5631 8 ай бұрын

@@OneLefft uh huh

@MissYamIherexxx 2 жыл бұрын

I remember watching this with my boyfriend (who had already seen the film) and I told him beforehand who I thought would live and die. He told me that Polka-Dot Man didn’t die, and I believed him since he showed up in the climax, so you can imagine my pain when he dies in such a shocking way.

@piscessoedroen 8 ай бұрын

Honestly, that's the best spoilerbait that he can tell you. The film really wants us to root for polkadot

@toganium4175 2 жыл бұрын

I'm just glad that King Shark has friends now.

@eeelorde9962 2 жыл бұрын

yea i want to freinds with him too

@emperorfaiz 2 жыл бұрын

NEW DUMB FRIENDS!

@ms.chomper5024 2 жыл бұрын

King Shark and Ratcatcher deserve their own thing

@henrikingholt9245 2 жыл бұрын

King shark is a shark.

@fenrir-art4742 2 жыл бұрын

Yes his hands. He was dumb and that is not king Shark. It is Groot shark. 😂

@efrenarevalo2025 2 жыл бұрын

Harley specifically said to watch out for red flags and that killing children is a huge red flag, Peacemaker literally said kill children for peace and that should've hinted about his betrayal early on.

@GoodwillWright 2 жыл бұрын

What makes that even better is that Harley Quinn wasn't even around to hear him when he said that so there is no contradiction in character while still giving us, the audience the hint.

@SadEyes1412 2 жыл бұрын

Oh shit!

@christopherquintero6910 2 жыл бұрын

Oh shit!

@TyrziR6S 2 жыл бұрын

technically flag and rat girl betrayed him if you think ab it

@Aidan977 2 жыл бұрын

@@TyrziR6S Not really, he betrayed them

@sierraking4312 Жыл бұрын

Polka Dot man is the best. He's such a unique character. And David Dastmalchian is such a great actor he's so underrated.

@carbodude5414 5 ай бұрын

The sequel is also just straight up more visually pleasing to look at

@messy_watercolors 4 ай бұрын

Is it though?

@JustAguy006 4 ай бұрын

@@messy_watercolorsyeah this is one of the most visually stunning superheroes movies to date right now (apart from INSTV & ATSV). The movie is very colorful yet grounded to create a comic book in live action (in terms of style like with the title cards for the next sequence)

@messy_watercolors 4 ай бұрын

@@JustAguy006 it isn’t pleasing to look at though, let’s be honest

@JustAguy006 4 ай бұрын

@@messy_watercolors how though? Compare it to Synder movies and the dullness of MCU, this is night and day

@messy_watercolors 4 ай бұрын

@@JustAguy006 it’s just disgusting and disturbing.

@peterzeller5736 2 жыл бұрын

I literally almost cried when King Shark was alone in the van, and then again when he found his "friends" in the tank.

@stabbykinz1446 2 жыл бұрын

Same!! I think it really helped that they established his loneliness when he was people watching in the van, and I think he focused on the kissing couple. Shit hit hard. I hope we get a sequel where they're all living happy lives and stuff, or an epilogue.

@lemonmarie2161 2 жыл бұрын

The tank scene was gut wrenching. He was so happy to find other creatures who were like him.

@rabbitrulez 2 жыл бұрын

@@salazarmartell feeling an emotion and even sadness isn’t baby like. It’s human like.

@fegeleinherman8587 2 жыл бұрын

@@salazarmartell yes hating on people for enjoying something that you didn't care is sign of "matureness"

@BringThePain234 2 жыл бұрын

@@salazarmartell the bait level here is high, tryna get a rise outta people for nothing more than "Internet Clout"

@noeLelcnU 2 жыл бұрын

Easy answer, the editors didn’t fuck over the film, the director actually cared, and the actors really enjoy their characters. All that needs to be said

@Jose-se9pu 2 жыл бұрын

I love Will Smith, but I hope he doesnt come back, Idris Elba did a much better job (because yes, they are basically playing the same character)

@gabrielcarrasco8414 2 жыл бұрын

@@Jose-se9pu I love Will Smith too. But Idris Elba is a far better actor than Smith.

@bungiecrimes7247 2 жыл бұрын

All that needs to be said is that failure isn't the end, nor is it always a bad thing.

@noeLelcnU 2 жыл бұрын

@Cristo Alba well thats why I said the editors fucked him over as well but at the same time the movie even if re edited maybe could have been alright but their story regardless was all over the place

@AinnRubiix 2 жыл бұрын

It wasn’t the director’s fault.

@spencer4685 Жыл бұрын

I watched this movie on a plane thinking it was the original and being extremely confused when I heard everyone disliked it and even more so when they were upset with Jared leto’s role until the very end of the movie when I realized that I was watching a different movie entirely

@mayorkoopbob Жыл бұрын

i think it should be noted that deathstroke doesnt neccessarily want to seperate from his daughter because he's a lone wolf type, but more on because he doesn't want his daughter to associate with someone like him. this is shown in how he tries to actively push away his daughter by making it seem like he didnt care about her being a criminal (or, at least, attempting to be one), just that she got caught. he wants her to see him as a horrible person because he thinks that of himself and believes himself to not be worth his daughter, AND he shows that he *does* care for her when he tried to kill amanda waller when she threatened his daughter.

@dominiquejones3805 6 ай бұрын

It dies other stuff!!!

@jknetwork6211 2 жыл бұрын

Polkadot Man screaming “I’M A SUPERHERO!” Is better then any line of dialogue from the 2016 Suicide Squad.

@mojoman5753 2 жыл бұрын

I almost fell into depression when he died

@clintjefferson4391 2 жыл бұрын

Too bad the box office numbers doesn't reflect this.

@jknetwork6211 2 жыл бұрын

@@clintjefferson4391 COVID my guy. Suicide squad wasn’t the only film to suffer because of it. Plus because of hbo max most just watched it at home for free so going to the theater seemed pointless.

@shadowstrike234 2 жыл бұрын

Yesssssss

@howtophaser4762 2 жыл бұрын

you don’t want no beef?

@black_cider 2 жыл бұрын

I found it interesting how emotive Polkadot man got at Milton's death, and how everyone else either didn't know who he was or didn't realise he was with them, even though Polkadot man should LITERALLY have the hardest remembering and recognising people. Goes to show how much he cared

@shivandragon1651 2 жыл бұрын

Or maybe that was the joke?

@Bombill 2 жыл бұрын

Gunn himself said that PDM didn't so much care for Milton as he simply saw an opportunity to wallow in self-pity like he's prone to do

@fegeleinherman8587 2 жыл бұрын

@@Bombill source? (Never have i thought that i would use that word)

@thealchemist5376 2 жыл бұрын

Lern 2 rite Engleesh!

@dark3rthanshadows 2 жыл бұрын

i was laughing of the whole scene, in fact i was like harley quinn "who's milton?" ohhhh that guy!

@jackjill2394 9 ай бұрын

Starro's last line really flipped the feeling of the whole ending for me

@jpcano111 2 жыл бұрын

Even Waller was completely different from Suicide Squad (2016), she literally was this cold control freak but then, when she lost it, she completely freaked out and was pretty emotional, not what she seemed to be, for example, when she first killed Savant.

@apathyminus5925 2 жыл бұрын

Milton had the best character arc. He started as a scared and fidgety bus driver and over the movie bonded with the squad and helped them on every mission. His confidence sky rocked and he seemed so happy to be helping plant the bombs. Then he died.

@najibbasirun 2 жыл бұрын

Wait who's Milton?

@rolkflameraven1483 2 жыл бұрын

@@najibbasirun Its Bloodsport's name, Duh! They had a whole three hour conversation about it!

@smugofbishamonten1447 2 жыл бұрын

Wait what? I thought he stayed in the bus?

@hothoploink1509 2 жыл бұрын

I think I would've remembered if there was someone named Milton in that movie...

@causerDAguv 2 жыл бұрын

@@najibbasirun He was the contact at the club

@Benny0033 2 жыл бұрын

Polka-Dot Man's death was really sad (and also sudden) for me because the entire film he basically had PTSD of the horrible stuff his mum did, and the fact he didn't like killing people unless he imagined them as his mum. So for him to fight Starro, and save innocent lives, and then shout "I'M A SUPERHERO!" Only to die all of a sudden was quite heart breaking

@Gabreya 2 жыл бұрын

+Benny0033 I know! His and Rick Flagg’s deaths DEVASTATED me. 🥺😭

@chani3644 2 жыл бұрын

I cried so much at his death, and will constantly hope for him to return somehow in a future film. Likely won't happen, but I really wanted to see him after his big moment. Would he still be able to kill people? Have his issues been completely tackled? So many things.

@STVNCEDRVF 2 жыл бұрын

I feel that he was hoping to die as he said earlier in the film since he’s so tortured from his past, but I found it poetically satisfying that he died probably the happiest he’s been in decades. That way he knew he went out a hero, saving the day with his newfound friends by his side

@mochafrappawhat 2 жыл бұрын

SAME like the smile on my face never returned after his death. It just felt like it was mostly for shock value. Even though i understand that it's realistically likely bc his arc was practically finished, I would've loved to see him develop even more to where he sees his mom less and less or something. Polka dot man deserved better :'(

@soupdawhoop 2 жыл бұрын

I agree, I loved his character and wanted him to survive so badly :( the fact that I’m saying this about POLKA DOT MAN is a testament to how great this movie is

@i_am_thebatman Жыл бұрын

It’s sad that The Original Suicide Squad made almost 7x more money than the better one

@Oddgamer0917 9 ай бұрын

Tbh the original one’s marketing was on another level and also this movie was for the streaming service as opposed to something making money at theatres.

@IBM-5100 3 ай бұрын

@@Oddgamer0917Yeah, the marketing for the first one was insane (there were even music collabs like Purple Lambo and shit).

@safcjoe7062 2 ай бұрын

"It's not about money, it's about sending a message".

@Fernandolorian_ Жыл бұрын

The build up of pokadot man’s mom up to his death scene where he imagines staro as his mum and “it’s your mom!!!!”. Is one of the best things in this film

@biospark4758 2 жыл бұрын

Another thing that adds to Peacemaker’s character is that you can tell he doesn’t want to kill Rick Flag or Ratcatcher. That inner conflict adds a lot to his character, since he cherishes peace, but he’s also grown to cherish his teammates

@rivers3673 2 жыл бұрын

yes he does he goes out of his way to do it

@casualwatcher5029 2 жыл бұрын

@@rivers3673 still tho, he hesitated a bit, which shows tht he didn't want to. Unlike when he was attacking the refugee camp, dude had no second thoughts

@davidunoi7099 2 жыл бұрын

I agree. And its one of the many nuances that I really appreciated about how this movie treated its characters and their individual arcs. Everyone develops as the story moves along….except Harley, but shes psychotic so all is well. Lol.

@zachwuensch4023 2 жыл бұрын

He doesn’t kill either of them tho

@theboyfromnowhere4300 2 жыл бұрын

@@zachwuensch4023 what? He killed Rick. After credit scene on the bad was Peacemaker not Rick...

@SebastianAceFawkes 2 жыл бұрын

This is one of the few movies where John Cena actually feels like a Character and not just a meme

@GriffinRyan69 2 жыл бұрын

He still has some meme moments, but otherwise, he feels like an amazing character

@AA-lj5rp 2 жыл бұрын

Completely forgot it was john cena he does great

@HeroOfJusticeYT 2 жыл бұрын

John Cena was in this movie?? where i couldnt see him

@SebastianAceFawkes 2 жыл бұрын

@@HeroOfJusticeYT stop

@foopx 2 жыл бұрын

A bit of both

@weeaboobaguette3943 Жыл бұрын

12:35 Excuse me sir, but only peace remains when the Peacemaker finishes peacemaking.

@robonator2945 2 жыл бұрын

I always interpreted Harley's emotionally driven efficacy being pretty reasonable. I mean she has the raw intelect to be effective, as she clearly wasn't just knowledgable but genuinely inteligent which would explain her being really effective, but Joker then kind of mindwashing her was never written as him literally overwriting her personality or mind, just changing it. By that measure having her be emotionally motivated but extremely detatched while still being extremely effective. Similarly from a writing perspective having her be both fickle and deadly makes her just excellent at preventing predictability in a way that makes sense. Harley as a character has never been about 4d chess sort of prediction or logic, that's, like her entire character, it's someone who was smart but more on edge than she let on and that was then coaxed out by the joker.

@davidunoi7099 2 жыл бұрын

Polkadot mans emotive sadness at the disrespect shown towards his fallen friend Milton was perfect...and truly made me sad that he had to die.

@chaoticgoodcreations947 2 жыл бұрын

I really hope that they killed him because he would have just destroyed Starro in 30 seconds instead of it being for a quick laugh.

@devforfun5618 2 жыл бұрын

@@chaoticgoodcreations947 if you are talking about polkadot, and not milton, i believe it was, since the movie started i knew only two of them could actually hurt starro, polkadot and ratcatcher, they killed him so ratcatcher could finished the job, not only in a way that was epic, as he would do, but also gross, which fits the movie perfectly, specially because like taika said, rats are despised by everyone but they also noble

@sebastiangonzalez4623 2 жыл бұрын

well said man.

@justinamerican8200 2 жыл бұрын

Who's Milton?

@robbruno3768 2 жыл бұрын

@@justinamerican8200 Blood sports real name

@gilvinzalsos8734 2 жыл бұрын

I laughed when I too realized too late Milton was still with them trying to help out. It happened so naturally and when the film pointed out he’s dead I too reacted like Bloodsport like “yo wtf was he still doing here”

@stabbykinz1446 2 жыл бұрын

Right? Like he completely faded into the back of my mind. They played a damn good trick with that sudden death, made all the better by everyone except Polka Dot Man freaking out about his death.

@Ghost-Song7714 2 жыл бұрын

@@stabbykinz1446 you mean only polka dot man only freaked out that he died, everyone else was like: “Who died?”

2 жыл бұрын

Who's Milton?

@Teppest33 2 жыл бұрын

Milton was one of the rebel soldier guys driving the Suicide Squad to the base where Starro was. For some reason, he kept following them in the tower.

@withedoter6277 2 жыл бұрын

I was kinda shocked that he followed, even pointed it out to my bro that Milton is in the rain slow mo scene 🤣🤣🤣

@InfiniteVoid 2 жыл бұрын

This video really made me think about how much point of view in a movie(story) can impact it.

@killer92173 5 ай бұрын

Well, the answer is actually quite simple: WB really intervened with the "David Ayer" Suicide Squad, and heavily altered the movie. When James Gunn got kicked out at Marvel, however, DC and WB greeted him with open arms, and they gave him complete creative freedom to do whatever the hell James Gunn wanted.

@FrttMs 2 жыл бұрын

I thought Harley Quinn's escape showed off that her "normal" behaviour was mostly just an act and that she is actually super clever (like we all know she is). In my eyes they somewhat did the correct "Jack Sparrow thing" with her in this one.

@nomnommoon1001 2 жыл бұрын

But shes actually crazy, its not supposed to be an act. Shes an actual insane person who just happens to have big brain

@bbittercoffee 2 жыл бұрын

@@nomnommoon1001 In the animated show it's like she has a split-personality, and while she mostly does random shit, when she does listen to her psychologist side, she does some pretty well planned stuff. Her gymnastics abilities are shown pretty much everywhere so it's not something that isn't apparent.

@beclops 2 жыл бұрын

@@bbittercoffee Yeah the scene where she does a 200+lb weighted pullup to kill that guy was pretty insane

@AzureRoxe 2 жыл бұрын

@@nomnommoon1001 Thing is that, even if she's actually insane, she's still quite inteligent and has had many moments in the comics where she actually plans or shows that she can be normal.

@topknot01 2 жыл бұрын

That scene felt unnecessarily dragged out and it just made the soldiers look incompetent.

@Carlosxdxb 2 жыл бұрын

"I was happy... floating... starring at the stars" This broke my heart :(

@mememan1552 2 жыл бұрын

That line right there gives starro more depth. Bc he just wanted to be left alone until humans discovered him and then keep him locked up in a secret bunker.

@carlwheezerofsouls3273 2 жыл бұрын

i mean, kinda his own damn fault for trying to take over the planet like a stereotypical 50’s alien, he seemed smart enough to negotiate.

@mememan1552 2 жыл бұрын

@@carlwheezerofsouls3273 Yea that's true

@Orchidlettux 2 жыл бұрын

@@carlwheezerofsouls3273 I’d take over too if mf’s kept me under for how many years, lemme get my revenge

@shreyashshrestha6085 2 жыл бұрын

@@Orchidlettux and kill the innocent people that have nothing to do with it?

@thetaetaomegaproductions6889 3 ай бұрын

This is probably the most well-made videos I've seen in a few years! Amazing job with the editing and audio choices!!! 10/5 stars

@silversildnik6991 2 жыл бұрын

This editing is crazy. Nice vid bro!

@aidangordon2713 2 жыл бұрын

One of the things I don't think people are talking enough about is just how damn *good* Cena's acting was in this. When he kills Rick Flagg, you can _see_ that he's hurting, and _feel_ that he knows that this simply isn't right. That's not something you often get in movies like these, so it's fantastic to see him bring a more nuanced take to this... and I now cannot *wait* for his new HBO Max show.

@SkywalkerSamadhi 2 жыл бұрын

He gives a little lip quiver when he is about to kill RatCatcher and she is begging him not to. He isn't completely heartless. He actually has a moral center, to him at least, even if it is fucked up and completely misguided.

@thepaperninja3123 2 жыл бұрын

Totally, he had this conflicted look on his face when he was about to kill Flag and Ratcatcher.

@burgernthemomrailer 2 жыл бұрын

Lao gan ma

@muhammadsaduddin308 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, peacemaker is just like he said, he will do anything for peace. No matter how much sacrifice he did need.

@Gabrong 2 жыл бұрын

@@muhammadsaduddin308 I've got serious w40k vibes from this.

@spongeman1512 Жыл бұрын

I love this KZfaqr editing filled with memes. You got a subs.

@sandwichboy1268 2 жыл бұрын

Your editing is so good. I rewatch your videos all the time

@sakareeh 11 ай бұрын

Im a year late but me too

@dantefromdevilmaycry9857 2 жыл бұрын

I like how the main Plot Twist was Milton staying with them the whole time.

@johnward2101 2 жыл бұрын

Milton: siiiiii

@davidkim3518 2 жыл бұрын

who tf is milton?

@johnjohn-bz8kb 2 жыл бұрын

@@davidkim3518 BFF of Polka Dotman lol. He was their driver.

@animuchan6136 2 жыл бұрын

@@johnjohn-bz8kb you mean bloodsport?

@justinrussell2865 2 жыл бұрын

@@davidkim3518 Milton. He was with us, THE WHOLE TIME

@nicoinformatics 2 жыл бұрын

I honestly have no idea how James Gunn managed to juggle and fit character development through so many multiple different characters at once on such a short movie, it's amazing. I guess his experience with the MCU helped quite a bit.

@mychaeljones7526 2 жыл бұрын

Naw it's just his schtick.

@ichigomajaang1682 2 жыл бұрын

I mean guardians of the galaxy

@jayrivss9859 2 жыл бұрын

I agree sm dawg he’s too great it’s crazy how genius this movie is

@florencejohnpaclibar.1b872 2 жыл бұрын

Made easier when he killed off half the squad immediately 😂

@2007ghettonissanaltima 2 жыл бұрын

@@florencejohnpaclibar.1b872 well the movie IS called suicide squad. R.i.p. Rick flag though

@austinbridges1271 Жыл бұрын

2:20 they're all running in straight lines, down tight corridors. It'll be hard to miss

@DeepGreen2011 2 жыл бұрын

You are ridiculously smart how u broke down the right way to tell a story 10 out of 10👏👏

@jamemhm 2 жыл бұрын

I think another small detail that makes this movie so good is that when the team considers getting rid of King Shark, Waller tells them that he is the strongest member of the team, when in reality the strongest member is obviously Polka-Dot Man. Remember, King Shark has bulletproof skin. This means they had no way of putting that bomb in his neck. In the comics, this was solved with a belt that was meant to do the same however it failed. By telling the team that King Shark is necessary and they shouldn't ditch him, Waller was making sure they didn't anger the only team member they had no plan for stopping. Luckily, King Shark is an idiot who didn't know that not everyone liked him on the team so he never decided to get angry except for the time when Bloodsport shot at him. This detail really made me realize Waller is a genius and not just the mean lady telling the protagonists what to do.

@johnward2101 2 жыл бұрын

Don't underestimate the wall.

@smallandstressed2364 2 жыл бұрын

I love how people come up with ways to contain characters that can’t be contained in standard ways. Like, you could have a boring “here is a way to completely deactivate whatever makes them hard to contain in the first place” but you could have the “we designed something specific to this uncontainable character.” With the SCP universe, you get a mix of both. It’s always more interesting to actually problem solve than use writer divine will.

@nasu5750 2 жыл бұрын

Holy; this made me see things from a new perspective

@gnumpf1248 2 жыл бұрын

I dont know, i think nanaue is the strongest member, he got eaten by alien Jellyfish, which nobody else in the movie would survive, then a enormous building crashed on him, an entire army shot at him, and he got yeeted in a skyscraper by a gigant starfish. And he walks away like it was nothing. I dont think polka would even scratch him. Also polka is dead, nanaue not. Ratcatcher 2 is maybe on his power level. I dont care about my grammar you see the point.

@petatersandgravye2n 2 жыл бұрын

@@gnumpf1248 nanaue is strong but he has the benefit of high durability and bulletproof skin, not dissimilar to starro's durability (resistant to bloodshots arsenal). polka dot man's pure destructive power is crazy, that incendiary-like attack ate through starro's leg. it would do a lot worse to nanaue.

@rbbietherabbit6507 2 жыл бұрын

The attention to detail sprinkled throughout The Suicide Squad is amazing. For example, Savant is in prison due to Black Canary arresting him so the opening scene where he kills a canary is symbolic to his hatred and wanting for vengeance. Then when he eventually dies as his remains drift along the water, a canary can be seen eating his brains (again symbolic of his inevitable failure as a d-list villain). Just 👌🏾👌🏾

@epicgamerhank9509 2 жыл бұрын

Not to mention Savant first appeared in the Birds of Prey comics as well.

@JacksonBlackmon 2 жыл бұрын

@@epicgamerhank9509 As a big fan of Gail Simone’s Birds of Prey run I was really hoping we’d see Savant do more cool stuff in this movie, but I’d be lying if I said his death wasn’t hilarious

@LordofSadFac 2 жыл бұрын

That scene works in two ways actually, as a metaphor for his hatred of Black Canary and as another metaphor for his desire of freedom, after all Birds are always related to freedom, and him killing it express both his desire and why he is incarcerated. Another canary eating his remains is just an expression of his vicious cycle of encarceration for his actions.

@RhysLloyd2611 2 жыл бұрын

So Canary is indirectly responsible for his death

@GAdmThrawn 2 жыл бұрын

I totally forgot that was _the_ Savant from the Birds of Prey comics.

@JimboPro 8 ай бұрын

The biggest mistake they made was not giving Suicide Squad an R rating. If they did that, it would give them more opportunities to convey what the title promises, and the Pg13 rating hinders their ability to make a ridiculous, entertaining, convincing, gruesome movie. The first film didn't take risks and go all out to give the audience what they wanted and expected. The second film consisted of gory and violent scenes, emotional scenes, a more straightforward plot, character development, effortless subjective comedy, iconic actors who deliver their lines exceptionally well, and comedic relief characters, King Shark and Weasel. Also impeccable editing 😂😂

@bokeunji 5 ай бұрын

OMG, thank you! I thought because it failed in the box office I was crazy for liking it over the original. But many people tend to agree.

@casio0170 2 жыл бұрын

also peacemakers helmet is this beaken of light that you would expect of a superhero, but when peacemaker betrays them, his helmet is knocked of, revealing who he really is. a "the ends justify the means" kinda person

@alamtarokainkavan4524 2 жыл бұрын

That is an interesting way of spelling "Beacon".

@FlimsyAcorn2722 2 жыл бұрын

His helmet is knocked off revealing who he really is. John Cena

@user-sn1bb8yq9f 2 жыл бұрын

@@FlimsyAcorn2722 that kinda explains why a floating hero suit and helmet was part of the team

@joshuakim5240 2 жыл бұрын

There's also the reveal of his true role in the team. Remember how Bloodsport was baffled at Waller's weird inconsistency of varied team skills when describing Peacemaker's identical background and skillset to him? Peacemaker was never a member of the team; he was the enforcer put in to ensure Waller's bidding was done no matter what. It never mattered what skills he brought to the team's success; only what skills he had in case he needed to eliminate members of the team.

@margarethmichelina5146 2 жыл бұрын

Also, Peacemaker has no shympathy towards the team whenever the other team members told their sad backstories while Bloodsports feel sorry for them. Really shows his true character is from the beginning. He's just a total hypocrite selfish douchebag who doesn't care of the others and only wants to do it himself.

@djofortunato5799 2 жыл бұрын

The sad truth is James Gunn is not necessarily a "visionary genius He's literally just a guy who actually read the comic books as a kid or teen - & then grew up to find a voice in cinema, so added layers of horror, comedy and legit pathos, without disrespecting the original source material I the process. This is why he chose the Suicide Squad over Superman. He'd have the freedom to define these characters, which as a comics reader - he Knows have only been loosely defined on the page.

@shell2835 2 жыл бұрын

And he listens to the audience

@skurai2503 2 жыл бұрын

Reading the comics alone doesn't make you a good director, James Gunn is overall a great director that knows what the audience wants, period.

@hazim9529 2 жыл бұрын

He respect the source material and knows what the audience want, so he's good in my books. If you wanna see an original idea by him, check out his directorial debut with 2006's Slither. It's batshit insane.

@Coproquim 2 жыл бұрын

He touches kids

@tinabelche6373 2 жыл бұрын

he's still a visionary genius. he's a director AND a fan of the comics lmaoo

@MrIgorkap 2 жыл бұрын

Lol Harley is not dumb she just knows how to use people's prejudice against them. Them thinking she's a giggly dumb blonde makes it very convenient for her to handle them. She also a supremely self confident character and knows what she likes and what she doesn't and goes out and gets it. One of the best Harley Quinn representations here.

@scylla4342 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, but the movie exactly makes her just like this video describe her

@MrIgorkap Жыл бұрын

@Scylla If you just take the surface level then yes but not if you read in-between the lines

@gugahhsantos 2 жыл бұрын

Very good analysis! Thank you!

@gersoncruz4570 2 жыл бұрын

It actually makes me sad to see king shark have no friends throughout the movie.. it’s like he’s accepted it, you can see it when his sitting in the van by himself.. god this movie is great. Good thing he found people who care about him at the end.

@amazin2point0 2 жыл бұрын

This movie looks horrible from the trailer. Looks even worse than the first one

@zr8482 2 жыл бұрын

He fucking ate them all lmao

@MaraMansa 2 жыл бұрын

@@amazin2point0 okay? lol

@notseth3500 2 жыл бұрын

@amazin2point0 It's actually quite competent and coherent, while more properly adhering to the premise that the characters are part of a "suicide squad". You're free to disagree, but I'd recommend giving it a shot first.

@ScarFeiss 2 жыл бұрын

@@amazin2point0 I didn't see the first one or birds of prey but I checked this one out, it's pretty decent. A fresh take for a DCU

@pabloosset2533 2 жыл бұрын

Every time I think of the "Batman beating Deashot in front of his daughter" scene from the original, I can't help but think it would have been much more in character for Batman to be stalking them, from a position where only Deadshot can spot him. It may ruin the ambush, but I think it fits him much more to wait until the kid is out of the picture and give a father the chance to say goodbye to his daughter.

@sunsetskye483 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely

@erievhs 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it was stupid, all because Will smith wanted a sympathetic character, but i think bloodsport did a much better job and you actually wanted things to work out with him and his daughter

@pabloosset2533 2 жыл бұрын

@@erievhs I absolutely adore that they actually subverted the typical "villain that happens to be a good and loving dad" thing. You can tell he didn't want to be a father and isn't ready, but the care and potential to be a good dad is there. It ties wonderfully into how Bloodsport develops and coming off as heroic to his daughter in the end feels much more rewarding. God, this movie did so much right. It's no a masterpiece or a movie that changes cinema as a whole. But it makes you leave the cinema with a smile and saying "that was such a good fucking movie".

@evafox9696 2 жыл бұрын

There is a scene specifically in BTAS where he is about to attack a criminal in an alleyway, but then sees the criminal’s son and it causes him to pause and think of himself as a boy in that alleyway. He chooses to wait until the criminal is alone again. Though I suppose it’s more in line with Snyder’s BatPunisher to just not give a shit.

@pabloosset2533 2 жыл бұрын

@@evafox9696 "Oh boy, criminals in car. I could force them to stop... Orrrrr..." *click* *HEAVY MACHINE-GUN*

@pozhirateldush9892 Жыл бұрын

Smart review, really enjoyed and made me appreciate the movie even more

@chrisjimenez2192 Жыл бұрын

I just gotta say man, James Gunn has really come a long way since writing Scooby-Doo 2: Monsters Unleashed He's really grown & learned a lot on how to do good storytelling in movies Look at him now - he's now the Kevin Feige of DC cinema

@CMGThePerson 2 жыл бұрын

Poka Dot Man's entire character arc is an excuse for James Gunn to make a yo mama joke at the end 10/10 film

@8marveljosiah506 2 жыл бұрын

"We do a little trolling"

@zeynaviegas5043 2 жыл бұрын

i laughed my ass off a that scene just because of the absurdity of the whole set up and payoff

@zenith_0929 2 жыл бұрын

666 likes

@K.R.X 2 жыл бұрын

IGN

@saurabhsahni2993 2 жыл бұрын

Idris elba with accent "Its ur mom" EMOTIONAL DAMAGE TO THE MUM I mean that star fish was ugly as the goons in the first movie

@theupsidedownbrick9618 2 жыл бұрын

“if rats have purpose so do we all” my favourite line from the movie

@st4ne4rmthevill63 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah but...what's a rats purpose tho?

@fegeleinherman8587 2 жыл бұрын

@@st4ne4rmthevill63 eat everything that Looks delicious

@lonestarr1490 2 жыл бұрын

@@st4ne4rmthevill63 Have you seen Avengers: Endgame?

@michaellooks8397 2 жыл бұрын

@@fegeleinherman8587 "Maybe I am a rat...."

@Aisha_Luv 2 жыл бұрын

@@st4ne4rmthevill63 he gives them a purpose, he's explaining why remember.

@analauragonzalezaguilar1196 Жыл бұрын

11:00 So blood sport pay attention to Kenobi’s lessons.

@bossredd-77 2 жыл бұрын

I didn't like that boomerang man got killed at the beginning of the movie. Dudes pure comic gold and he's like a quarter of the team everytime he shows up. #JusticeForTheBoomerangMan

@alfredruss5174 2 жыл бұрын

Peacemaker and bloodsport has a better relationship than harley and joker in suicide squad.

@sarkastikcommander4555 2 жыл бұрын

but joker got just 7 minutes of screen time and most of his scenes were changed so it is not fair to compare

@techmaster9123 2 жыл бұрын

For suuuuure

@Cityweaver 2 жыл бұрын

@@sarkastikcommander4555 Sorry, bro, but until WB releases the Ayers Cut, the movie we got is the movie we got and it was a poorly executed movie. Criticizing that isn't somehow a moot point just because we know there are other scenes on the cutting room floor. Besides that point, the scenes we got are terrible anyway. Giving Harley to some random gangster to sleep with? What kinda fake edgy crap is that? That has nothing to do with the characterization of the Joker or Harley Quinn. When Harley was introduced in a CARTOON, the Joker would throw her around for successfully capturing Batman and trying to remove his mask, or for over-explaining a joke. In the comics, Harley disappear for months in-story and when she returned, he was so engrossed in planning his latest scheme that he hadn't noticed she'd isolated from the crime world for a few months to GIVE BIRTH TO THEIR DAUGHTER. THAT'S Harley Quinn. That's the story we sympathized with and the woman we wanted to see saved from the Joker. I don't know what that "hubba hubba" bullshit was in that movie, but it wasn't Harley and Mr. J.

@danielsp9795 2 жыл бұрын

@@Cityweaver i think that movie is beyond salvage even with the Ayer cut.

@analyticaldegen986 2 жыл бұрын

Savant and Captain Boomerang have a better relationship than Harley and Joker in suicide squad

@TJUC123 2 жыл бұрын

I think it’s pretty clear Harley plays dumb. You can see where she shows her true brilliance. Even for a split second where she yells “No!” to Abner when he’s about to shoot his polka dots because she knew he’d hit the bombs.

@lazinessincarnate9442 2 жыл бұрын

Also in the torture scene, even through all of the pain she was receiving, She was still calculating enough to be able to make a plan to escape and carry out that plan

@LuseTane 2 жыл бұрын

Right?!

@refourth8314 2 жыл бұрын

Badly they didn't portrayed this in the birds of prey movie and only called it pure luck

@TJUC123 2 жыл бұрын

@@lazinessincarnate9442 Exactly.

@TJUC123 2 жыл бұрын

@@refourth8314 Ikr?!

@houndrysmagolyteofhope4661 Жыл бұрын

Standing up to Amanda Waller is the biggest amount of character development a non main character can get.

@saileshsingh9374 Жыл бұрын

I love how Never Forget from Halo 3 plays at emotional scenes in this video

@SilverSoul255 2 жыл бұрын

The only thing I would argue with this video about is the impact of Amanda Waller. I found her character quite compelling in the 2021 remake. While she started calm and in control, she became more extreme and more intense as time went on and the stakes rose. I enjoyed watching that progress. I think it was crucial for keeping the tension high throughout the movie

@stevenborg102 2 жыл бұрын

She's in the movie because she's supposed to show that she's just as much of a psychopath as these villains are, and how people running the government or jails can be just as twisted as those they preside over on the other side of the bars.

@syrozzz 2 жыл бұрын

@@stevenborg102 Yeah and so 'not showing her motivations' has a purpose, it makes her choice in the end (for the team to not get involved in the rescue mission) even more absurd and pitiful.

@sabrexi7228 2 жыл бұрын

It did a great job of making her fucked up. How she was totally willing to rig the court system so Bloodshot’s 14 year old daughter was put into an adult maximum security prison in the south, and her absolute ruthlessness when killing savant even though her goal of distracting the enemy had already been accomplished. Made the payoff of her getting knocked out all the more satisfying

@khumomasokoane3722 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I completely agree with your point. Also the fact Peacemaker and Waller have the same ideology. Peace at any means. Well PM ideology is more for comedic purposes. Waller shows how scary it can actually be.

@khumomasokoane3722 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I completely agree with your point. Also the fact Peacemaker and her have the same ideology. Peace at any means. Well PM ideology is more for comic purposes. Waller shows how scary it can actually be.

@Daniel-ks4th 2 жыл бұрын

Gotta say that I agree that amanda waller isn't funny or even entertaining but she is more of that character you love to hate, which is why her getting clubbed in the head is such a great moment. She's more like an antagonist than a supporting side character.

@ok-xs2oo 2 жыл бұрын

She wasn't supposed to be funny. She's the exact same character from Suicide Squad 2016 but transferred into this sillier, care free movie. It is great.

@Dan-ri9hw 2 жыл бұрын

Uh yeah she's supposed to be the antagonist. She was never meant to be a funny character. Did you not watch the first movie?

@Daniel-ks4th 2 жыл бұрын

@@Dan-ri9hw sorry I was referring to something filmento said. I was saying that she is an antagonist. I did watch both movies otherwise I wouldn't be here

@Daniel-ks4th 2 жыл бұрын

@@Dan-ri9hw I would look for a timestamp but I'm a bit busy right now

@90daytrial75 2 жыл бұрын

Which is exactly how she should be! She was always meant to be the character in the end that you end up hating the most and view as the real villain

@rp569 Жыл бұрын

Awesome explanation my friend

@seanpvs101moviesproduction3 Жыл бұрын

This why James Gunn is my Favorite writers and directors I Seen so hype as Current CEO of DC Studios with Peter saffron. ❤

@KB-rh4vd 2 жыл бұрын

I would like to see an alternate version where the story is told as if Polka Dot was the main character, thus every other character appeared to be his mom while he is present throughout the film. Funniest parts for me.

@johnward2101 2 жыл бұрын

The name of the film, "the suicide squad: its your mom edition"

@danielalejandro3635 2 жыл бұрын

@@johnward2101 joe edition

@madechandra5246 2 жыл бұрын

Yo Mamma Edition

@EddyOver9000 2 жыл бұрын

Joe Mama 😳😳 Edition

@SirBagOMilk 2 жыл бұрын

I told my friend,” I can’t wait to see the Mom Cut.”

@thmistrapillay1811 2 жыл бұрын

That ironic contrast you were talking about in peacemaker, it seemed similar to the reversal method you talked about in ' into the spider verse ' where (for example) kingpin is memorable because he is huge but actually a sad little man on the inside

@Filmento 2 жыл бұрын

Nice catch! Thanks for watching!

@diersteinjulien6773 2 жыл бұрын

The "ironic contrast" is often used in Comics. The original X-men are good examples. Iceman is hot-blooded. Nightcrawler is a devout christian. The beast is really smart, and so on...

@noahh6186 2 жыл бұрын

@@diersteinjulien6773 That's a really good point, I don't know why that hadn't been more obvious to me. Going to look back through a lot of my favorite characters now and see how many that holds true for.

@TomEyeTheSFMguy 2 жыл бұрын

@@Filmento Y'know, another reversal I think you mentioned in a different video is Baldur from God of War. Expectation - Weak Random Guy challenges Brute Force Man. Reality - Turns out they're both equally matched.

@user-iz7km4zl5k 2 жыл бұрын

@@Filmento Of course, excuse me for my "subjective opinion", but as for me, the second "Detachment" is also far from being an amateur. Too much controversial humor, scenes with mother Pea evoked a wild krynge in me, Bloodsport is a copy of Dadshot, Harley no longer delivers, Boomerang was leaked and normal Persians here once again had a Rat Trap. Why is the Thinker here, if instead of him it was possible to slap a rondom scientist with a fool, even in the series "Flash" from The CW, and then they showed him much better (although later they were leaked at the end). Anyway, they should have made a squad like in the animated film "Batman: Attack on Arkham" where the characters were not exaggerated pranksters, but rather vicious, immoral and even slightly depraved personalities who were barely warm to each other and were ready to throw at the first opportunity. And the atmosphere was gloomy but a bit light with a pinch of black humor and no kinks in thrash, but instead they made a cross between the first "Squad", "Legends of Tomorrow" from the aforementioned The CW and "Doom Patrol" spiced by "Guardians of the Galaxy". #ReleaseTheAyercut

@rabbit139 2 жыл бұрын

thank you for the video i guess i will finally check the movie out after passing on it like all the other super hero movies that recently came out

@taj2425 2 жыл бұрын

Bruh, Frodo and Gandalf contrast got me so good. That Johnny Ca$h song was such a good choice XD

@sthea8486 2 жыл бұрын

Is no one talking about rat catcher 2? she was the heart of the film and stole almost every scene she was in

@princezuko9430 2 жыл бұрын

For the first time i actually cared about the squad

@princezuko9430 2 жыл бұрын

@Anime- Eri Yes Nanaue. The film has been released. Very good

@RashaadGenie 2 жыл бұрын

Stole? Really?

@ghostbotmellow706 2 жыл бұрын

She was the best one in the film

@LuXury00001 2 жыл бұрын

@@Elamado97 personally I think that would’ve of taken away from the comedic path This movie went on because rats ultimately ending something is ridiculous anyway imo

@iggyr3689 2 жыл бұрын

I was aware Milton was with the group since the beginning of the final assault, and I was like 'huh he is gonna survive this as a joke for sure', but then he died and that was the biggest gut punch on this movie for me right after Polka Dot Man's death

@Orchidlettux 2 жыл бұрын

Fr, I didn’t expect anything but damn :(

@MisterPyOne 2 жыл бұрын

I have to laugh every time I read "Polka Dot Man" in the comments

@ghost245353 2 жыл бұрын

It was obvious he was with them because he was in the slow motion line shot when they approached the building. It was then that I asked: "why is he with them?" Afterwards, I thought he would just be a guy trying to help but doing nothing since he is a regular guy. Bloodsport is acting like the audience because us, he audience, never see Milton or have him mentioned again until his death. Clearly the others should have known he was with them the entire time because it was only the four of them.

@coldermusic2729 2 жыл бұрын

Peacemaker in his series actually gets really good character development and we get to see why he is the way he is. He’s genuinely the only reason why I’m enjoying the series. Everything else within the series is just unnecessary jokey and weird. They made it so every single person is this rude and weird asshole that’s within a world that’s unnecessarily dark and gruesome. Crude jokes with dark themes does work… but it’s just not my “cup of tea” as people say.

@ayeskidman9269 Жыл бұрын

Dude every single character on the show was brilliant especially Peacemaker and Vigilante.

@coldermusic2729 Жыл бұрын

@@ayeskidman9269 Yes… if you really enjoy crude humour and everyone being weird assholes. If u do good for u. There’s nothing wrong with that. I just personally don’t enjoy those types of things.

@willster2967 Жыл бұрын

@@coldermusic2729 Yeah they’ve all got an assholishness to them (well not all but most) but they are also all still very much so individuals with unique personalities and they all go through real growth. The show is well put together and interesting alongside being fucking hysterical. I love peacemaker, one of the best things Dc has done in a long time

@dominiquejones3805 6 ай бұрын

The series really showed how he just wanted 2 please his dad

@Zombiefartface 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing video, liked and subscribed. 👏

@shadow102890 2 жыл бұрын

I honestly loved the opening beach sequence because it showed that 1.) These are dangerous you're practically committing suicide by going in these missions and 2.) That these characters are in a sense disposable, their lives are meaningless and their deaths means one less villain for Amanda to worry about.

@caldw615 2 жыл бұрын

It does and doesn't. If anything it highlights the issue of there being 3 people you KNOW are going to make it to the end. Bloodsport, because he is the protagonist they put the most effort into characterising. Harley, because lol they are not killing off their most recognisable name. King Shark, because they want him to sell merch as the "cutesy animal like ally" similar to Groot from Guardians. Throughout the movie I knew those were pretty much safe so it just made me think "Okay so when are they gonna kill off Polka Dot Man or Flag?" I still enjoyed this movie a hell of a lot more but I really wished they didn't just throw Harley in as an additional "name recognition" character since there was no way they'd kill her off because of her popularity.

@devforfun5618 2 жыл бұрын

bomer dying sealed that for me, they killed nobodies and stablished characters in the same scene, as well as the point of view character

@devforfun5618 2 жыл бұрын

@@caldw615 they put the same effort characterising Savant, Bloodsport could totaly have died fighting Starro because Ratcatcher was the stronger character there, he could die saving her life, and King Shark didn't die because he is the fucking King shark, the only character in the team that could fight Superman you are right about Harlen but her plot armor is normal in every media, because that is one of the traits of the character, she is always more competent than anyone give her credit

@caldw615 2 жыл бұрын

@@devforfun5618 I highly doubt they'd go to the effort of characterising the only non-white member of their team only to kill him off in the final act (King Shark is Polynesian but played by a white actor so he doesn't even cover that either). Movie King Shark is not anywhere close to Superman's level in this movie considering his feats, he's been injured by things that wouldn't even scratch Supes, he also didn't do a lot to Starro where as Superman is more than strong enough to toss him into space if he wanted to. The only reason he survived is because he is this movies Groot for selling merch, if you look into even just Funko Pop sales (those shitty cheap looking figures) his has already sold out in most places both for the smaller and larger one while the price is jacked up. People love their CGI cute characters that act like animals or toddlers (Groot, Baby Yoda etc) Harley's plot armour is based on luck, not competancy. She's not "smarter than she appears" in this version like she does in the animated series or Arkham games, she's genuinely a ditz who sees the world all warped and only gets by because of luck with her delussions and the people around her helping at the right moments.

@Magnet_Chaos 2 жыл бұрын

@@caldw615 I don't completly agree with your description of Harley. Her prison escape was 100% skill.... Plus a surprise factor. But yeah she is ditzier in this version than in other interpretations.

@skylarjune1635 2 жыл бұрын

When Ratcatcher 2 was first introduced, I was like “Who? What does she do, control rats? At least I know the actors who play these other characters I’ve never heard of.” and by the end I was like “If Cleo dies I will riot in the streets. She is my favorite superhero.”

@margarethmichelina5146 2 жыл бұрын

I was scared when Peacemaker wanted to kill her but luckily, she got saved by Bloodsport. Never thought in my life, I would ever shympathize by a girl who can control rats, a guy who can shot Polkadot and a hybrid Shark Man.

@yez9475 2 жыл бұрын

Im more of a marvel person, so i dont know a lot of characters on DC, but like shang-chi i absolutely have no clue who they are but i just watch the movie anyway, and i love seeing new likeable characters like Rat catcher 2, king shark, blood sport and pokedotman

@scyobiempire4450 2 жыл бұрын

Same here, my new favourite DC Hero

@kovacthesaggy4014 2 жыл бұрын

Cleo dies? Eh, I'll move on. *SEBASTION* dies?!! I will literally pay Flula Borg to violate James Gunn with his javelin.

@conormurphy4328 2 жыл бұрын

Yea that’s what movies used to be like, you get introduced to a character and then throughout the movie you come to understand and care for them. Now you just clap when you see your favourite celebrity on screen.

@tristynbishop6158 2 жыл бұрын

there is one mistake the Warner made in the 2016 Suicide Squad: Warner had too much creative control and they rushed it to make it look like Deadpool, they learned their lesson by giving all production control and 100% of creative control to James Gunn (he took his time, he decided to make production go smoothly, which made a film that nearly the entire DC fanbase loves)

@davidochoa2269 Жыл бұрын

🔥 editing

@0981462 2 жыл бұрын

The opening scene on the beach really SHOCKED ME. It's so intense, and urgent, and all of a sudden, hell breaks lose and I wasn't ready for it. Gunn's direction is amazing, here.

@michiel1162 2 жыл бұрын

In what way was his direction different than any average action scene.

@Zombiesfromjupiter 2 жыл бұрын

it really gives you everything; the premise, the stakes, how lowly waller / the institution thinks of the squad, WHY its a *suicide* squad... its so snappy, zero bs exposition about "superman storming the pentagon", brilliant!

@e.moonbound2420 2 жыл бұрын

@@michiel1162 you don't expect the entire squad of stablished characters to just die painfully in the first minutes of the movie.

@ogrimzyz8643 2 жыл бұрын

@@michiel1162 you start the movie with most of the characters dying, doesn’t happen much in movies

@walterude6323 2 жыл бұрын

Amanda Waller was an interesting character though. Especially at the ending when she suddenly shakes out from her icy monotone to an enraged maniac.

@silence_dais 2 жыл бұрын

Waller is always interesting, in fact the first movie nailed why she's so terrifying: she can sit down with Bruce Wayne over dinner and NOT be intimidated by the fact she knows he's Batman and doesn't give a fuck about the fact he knows what she's planning. She's more interested in knowing what he's doing because its her job to be. She's not a femme fatale, she has no super powers or special martial arts skills, she's just really that good at her job at being a heartless bitch that gets things done by doing whatever it takes to win.

@Will-bn9km 2 жыл бұрын

Plus she even respects her co workers for doing it in a weird way lol, as she said Bloodsport was born to lead. Kinda goes full circle in a strange mad way.

@AuspexAO 2 жыл бұрын

Waller is screwed in that scene because she literally CAN'T back down. If she does, she can never lead Squad X again. Criminals will test her and lose respect. A lot of people see her cursing and screaming as a loss of control. It is in a way. Not a loss of control over the Suicide Squad (she is definitely going to kill them all). It's a loss of control over the situation. That screaming is at herself. It's why she doesn't end up murdering her people. They actually did her a huge favor.

@Gr3nadgr3gory 2 жыл бұрын

@@AuspexAO the only way she didn't lose respect was getting wacked with a golf putter. Loved that scene.

@christianjacobs2767 2 жыл бұрын

@@silence_dais wonder when they're gonna have her work under Lex in the films.

@thetaetaomegaproductions6889 3 ай бұрын

Ok, your song choices are s tier, turbonegro fit wayyy too well

@oblivionnow92 Жыл бұрын

I haven't seen it yet, but your video makes me really want to

@nathantkc 2 жыл бұрын

The best plot twist was when they entered the freedom fighters village and massacred everyone.. that was so sad but funny, I didn't know how to feel about it 😂

@vyli1 2 жыл бұрын

immediately as they captured Flag, I knew that they were the good guys and I also knew that the other team will kill them. It was very predictable. At least for me. And hence not funny at all.

@dassvidania1969 2 жыл бұрын

That was probably the worst scene.. i mean yeah, joke, but it had 0 impact on story.

@vincere2account34 2 жыл бұрын

@@dassvidania1969 the purpose I think is to introduce who they are. That's what they are they kill

@roa3432 2 жыл бұрын

Yea, the moment the shark ate the first guy I couldn't help but think they might've made a mistake. Like these were supposed to be a bunch of dangerous people but they aren't even on high alert and some people were literally brushing their teeth and doing chores. Sad but I'm glad they still won at the end.

@mako2star 2 жыл бұрын

@@vyli1 congrats, take your fuckin cookie and leave

@donatsuobrasco3593 2 жыл бұрын

I cared more about a walking oedipus complex named The Polka-dot man, than I did for the highly charming and charismatic Will Smith

@conormurphy4328 2 жыл бұрын

Yea that’s called character development it’s what happens in good movies

@Zombiesfromjupiter 2 жыл бұрын

i cared more about starro than will smith's character... that says so much.

@Kevo.16k 2 жыл бұрын

@@Zombiesfromjupiter betta chill before will slap you next

@peytonmac1131 Жыл бұрын

While I agree with the spirit of your comment, I'm not sure Oedipus complex is the correct term. Isn't that being sexually attracted to a parent? PDM was angry and hated his mother, not love in anyway that I understood.

@webbyishere Жыл бұрын

@@Zombiesfromjupiter starros final words are absolutely heartbreaking it's easy to feel bad for him because he's an example of how evil the government and humanity is.

@Mirilaak 2 ай бұрын

i really love how when he does become the leader and give orders, he does so in ways that the people he’s giving orders to would truly understand, he knows them and what they need for motivation and instruction instead of just giving basic orders and having everyone listen

@zacc.attacc Жыл бұрын

best added sound effects ive seen in a youtube video

@twilliswillis9051 2 жыл бұрын

The point about Irony is really good. I think that the way a characters appearance and first impression match up with how they actually act and think makes or breaks them. And the irony of almost all of them managed to accomplish it really well, like with Polka-Dot Man, he’s wearing polka dots and has this brightly colored power, but his main personality revolves around his almost depressive aura and trauma.

@Filmento 2 жыл бұрын

That's a really great point about Polkadot man

@brave-antics7467 2 жыл бұрын

And his mom 💀

@Dellconhagerisanerd 2 жыл бұрын

I actually just appreciated that Harley quinn wasn't as sexualized She's still badass Still dresses feminine But she doesn't look like a blatant sex symbol

@roa3432 2 жыл бұрын

Yea, that's why I love Harley in the newer version. She has much more depth and complexity.

@Dellconhagerisanerd 2 жыл бұрын

@@roa3432 I think they're also starting to display some of her better personality Not all of it of course Some people still liked that first suicide squad Harley

@savagetv6460 2 жыл бұрын

Beta male lol

@savagetv6460 2 жыл бұрын

@@roa3432 are you a woman or gay?

@margarethmichelina5146 2 жыл бұрын

Also, her red and black costume is a nod to her original version in Batman: The Animated Series and Arkham City games. I personally like this costume than her "Daddy's Little Monster" costume all the way. In 2016 SS, we saw a glimpse of her original costume when she got it on airport but didn't want to wear it and on flashback when she danced with the Joker.

@trollaccount292 2 жыл бұрын

Yup got me entertained all the way. Every minute count.

@drivernephi7494 Жыл бұрын

TDK’s power could’ve been alot more effective if he had guns knives or hand grenades he could’ve done alot more than just slapping the soldiers around a little bit like imagine if he had a lmg with him he could’ve lit them up

@nobodygoodfr9556 2 жыл бұрын

"Daddy, I know you do bad things. That's ok. I still love CAPTAIN BOOMERANG."

@elfascisto6549 2 жыл бұрын

We heard it the first time

@lemeres2478 2 жыл бұрын

"Looks like I need to do some bad things to that damn Aussie." "No Daddy, I love him"

@nobodygoodfr9556 2 жыл бұрын

@@elfascisto6549 You must have a pretty sad life, my dude

@TomEyeTheSFMguy 2 жыл бұрын

@@elfascisto6549 And you'll hear it again.

@philiphunn194 2 жыл бұрын

2016 Suicide Squad: Edgelord "humour" and Will Smith being Will Smith in Deadshot cosplay. 2021 The Suicide Squad: Actual humour and all the characters being allowed to be characters.

@amazin2point0 2 жыл бұрын

Really? The movie looks crap from the trailer and even worse than the first one

@thedoomwader 2 жыл бұрын

@@amazin2point0 that your only point?

@sheiladelarosa_ 2 жыл бұрын

The Suicide Squad is not really that good, to be honest...

@amazin2point0 2 жыл бұрын

@@thedoomwader my point is that I’m surprised he thinks so because from the trailer it looks like it’ll just be some crap cram jokes in movies and looks like it would be worse than the first which wasn’t that great as it is

@thedoomwader 2 жыл бұрын

@@amazin2point0 but did you see it?