They should have focused the spinoff on Barney's character, and called it "Swarley".

It seems like the writers didn't want to make more of the same show, but somebody was going to pay them to do it so they just threw something out there.

It's a blessing in disguise that "Dad" never launched a full series, since Greta might have been too busy working on this show to direct such classics as "Ladybird" or "Little Women."

During that clip of Barney and Sophie, I just realized that Barney is now going through the same thing his hero is going through. He and Johnny Lawrence, the Karate Kid, are both single dads in a spin-off show of their original IP.

Poor Vicky, after being the best actress in the Bad Place she got cast into her own personal hell 😢

HIMYM was simply relatable. Many guys have been that Ted, had a friend the was obnoxious like barney and had a humble friend like Jason Siegel. People saw themselves in Teds experiences. The trials and pitfalls of dating. The Wonder Years was the same feeling of being young. "Dad" had no relatable aspects. Shows that suceed reflect real life. Failures are all the result of a half ass effort

Damn, I feel bad for Greta Gerwig here especially in that interview. It wasn't her fault the show was a wreck but you can totally tell it affected her.

HIMYM finale WAS actually pretty disappointing, but Milliotti (spelling?) Is always a win. So adorable in palm springs.

I didn't even know there was gonna be a spinoff called how u met your dad 😂😂😂 now that's nostalgic 😅😅😅

Really great critical analysis, I rarely see media arts critique done this well! Definitely subscribed now...I love when review channels dive into this level of analysis rather than just lore & gossip.

How I Met Your Father should have been based around the mother of Barney's daughter. Each episode telling stories to their daughter in the future. Revealing zany stories about Barney we never knew happened etc. IMO would have been a legen...wait for it...Dary show 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

How I Met Your Mother was a cool, one-off premise that ran too long and outsmarted itself into a stinker of a finale. No one should have tried to spin off the concept. They should have just backed away slowly.

Wasn't Brooklyn Nine-Nine out back then and that series is amazing.

I think not having Cristin Milioti involved as the main character was the first miss. Should have had some tie in - having her be in the same places as Ted, but her perspective would have given the show roots in the classic it was trying to borrow the name from. It would have allowed the audience to be invested. Plus cameos from the original cast would have been more heartfelt

Haven't seen it, but is there a chance that the writers might have forgotten how they started their hit show and wrote this pilot like they would have written another episode of their show that was already established? Like they were trying to recreate something they knew worked but instead of starting at the beginning they tried to just write like they would have for that other show where history and context had already been established over years of running and therefore they totally missed the mark.

HIMYM is too special to replicate I think even how I met your father doesn't do it correctly. I think people underestimate how special that original cast really was. I don't think there will ever be as good a sitcom cast as that again. Also HIMYM did something very simple in the first episode, Marshal proposes and Ted accidentally says ily to a girl and everyone's reaction is the same as the viewers it was an amazing way to force a connection with the audience early on and I think both these spin offs miss the mark

Huh i found it interesting that they go with the "Dad" title first instead of just going with the "father" title

Carter and Thomas had time to conceptualize HIMYM and it was basically a passion project for them. In my opinion the spin-off, like any other cash grabs by networm execs was a rash decision. Now, I don't know what happened behind the scenes, but isn't it that when a show ends, they usually get scripts either from an old junk pile or a new pitch. Probably they didn't like anything (maybe a few months before the end or at least a year while the show was about to wrap up they started searching) so they tasked Carter and Thomas to see if they can do a spin-off, which was likely rushed. I mean it does happen, look at what happened to Conan. He never expected to be a host after Dave left, he was asked to be a writer (he was still with the simpsons then) but when the due date was nearing he was asked to show up for a test screening and we all know what happened. It was a spur of the moment decision. Now in that case, thank god it worked, but most of the time it doesn't. Case in point ☝️

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I loved the cast of How I Met Your Dad. Greta Gerwig, Anders, Andrew Santino, and I forget some of the other smaller roles I enjoyed. But, in hindsight maybe a good thing this failed so Greta could go on to make the great films she has and loving Andrew in Dave right now. Edit: I actually like the new one with Hillary Duff. Season 1 was meh. But so far season 2 is a massive improvement.

I think I watched 1 1/2 episodes of that show. The main characters were extremely crass. I was a fan of How I met your mother, and the characters in that show were likable. Barney was the only slime ball and NPH played him so well he was also likable.

This is a nice one, can't wait for the other oldies😊 Maybe a disection of some old hits as well?

I'm so glad Greta has found enormous success as a director. She's so talented

So that's what Greta Gerwig looks like. I didn't even know _How I Met Your Dad_ was a thing. I wonder if that one episode is still canon to the HIMYM universe, or if it's a separate timeline.

Can you imagine this show lasting 6 - 7 years? We would have lost Greta Gerwig directing awesome movies. Things happen for a reason.

I think the reason why How i met your dad is not a good success like HIMYM because HIMYM is nostalgic for a lot of us now even after the terrible ending of the show but still it’s a show that reminds you of a lot of years and memories of your life so it’s hard to accept a new sitcom you feel like it’s just a bad copy of the original sitcom.. also a lot of ppl till this day they see HIMYM for the first time and love it so HIMYM is not old enough to be replaced by another show

So I didn't hallucinate that, good

I remember being really stoked about the news for this show cuz I was an avid HIMYM fan & I had LOVED everything I'd seen from Greta Gerwig (didn't hurt that she had at that point starred in two films from one of my fave directors; ESP loving Francis Ha)

I think th ebiggest reason why it was never going to do well is that it was too soon after How I met your Mother that fans of the show would have been expecting it to be a retelling from the Mothers point of view. Considering this show was announced before Season 7 of How I met your mother. And the cast was announced two weeks before the finale of How I met your mother all but confirming that the story wasn't not in continuity with the Original. and then the ending of How I met your mother happened that pissed off alot of fans.

Why Didn't they just do the life of Ted's wife. Too obvious???

I remember auditioning for this show, script was crazy

They could have made the ringtone type of thing work by stealing her phone using a “what’s that song” app. While she’s sitting at the bar she puts her phone closer and closer trying to make her phone pick up the song and the guys she’s supposed to be talking to turning and realizing her phone is right in his face and then they have some romantic moment. I saw like 20 things they could have done in this pilot and it’s weird show phoned in it felt. The actors seems like they could have made a great crew but I think the “best friend” could have been the lead honestly, she’s funny and she’s more relatable in her delivery.

They should’ve kept her real personality in the show,i felt I didn’t like her just from these clips but once she appeared in that interview with that laugh she took my heart😂

You should definitely make a video on How I Met Your Father show.

It's a bit ironic how the how i met your dad pilot and the actual first episode of how i met your father are really alike. HIMYF at first is also rather messy, with the whole group meeting each other in one night, and then them hanging out as if they've spent years knowing each other. however, HIMYF is actually getting better and I'm looking forward for it to stand on its own, and like others said, the fact that HIMYD wasn't greenlit led Greta Gerwig to do her own thing in movies.

I would have pitched a How I Met Your Dad story where at first it looks like the mother is telling the story to her kids about her friends and and how she met this nice guy, let's say his name is Jim, but theeeeen right at the end of the pilot the mother revealed that while this Jim is indeed her kids' dad, the big twist is that the female protagonist that we've been following in the story is actually their aunt Helen, and Jim have yet to meet the mother. So the story is structured kind of similar to How I Met Your Mother, but from the perspective of the mother instead. And the kicker is that in the finale, if it goes on to be a series, the mother who is narrating is not her kids' biological mother. Their real mother was Helen who died after telling the narrator to take care of her kids and husband.

The backdoor pilot in HIMYM should have been the version they went with

Thankfully it did because if it had been a success, we may have lost out on a lot of Gerwig’s genius.

I...don't even think I knew this existed. Amazing

This gives me extra appreciation for HIMYF, it’s similar to HIMYM but feels different enough that it doesn’t feel a carbon copy. They for instance put more emphasis on the drama, which was a smart way to distinguish the show from its parent.

5:17 That was some nervous laughter 😕

This was much better than season 1 of HIMYFather - Might be biased, I either saw the pilot of HIMYDad after season 1 or right before I saw it. I did not notice all these issues described here and enjoyed Dad more, and I think it would have been a great show. I think either, they added the photo of the dad in the pilot when they put it online when it was not picked up, or they would have rotated the person in the picture from episode to episode. HIMYFather has really gotten a lot better this second season and I hope that continues after the break.

Well how i met yr father full 1st season also felt like this pilot...but starting of the 2nd season, like episode 2, really felt like home...its started slow but now im starting to looking forward to it..

It's possible they decided to reveal the dad from the start to avoid the same issue the original show bumped into after revealing the mother at the end of season 8 that annoyed many fans.

I remember watching this a few months before watching how i met your father, and actually prefering it

It wasn't just the writers that made How I Met Your Mother so good. The cast was gold. They were amazing and they had such good chemistry with each other. Magic like that can't be so easily recreated.

HIMYM is just so nostalgic. I don't think anything can top it off. And about that ending of HIMYM I feel like it was just rushed. It felt right but it was just rushed

Barney carried the whole show, I agree writing was good but without NPH's charisma the show would've fallen flat

This existed too?

I liked the ending, but I wish they extended the season to extend the last two episodes.

Never even heard of this show until I saw the thumbnail for this video.

the opening of how I met your mother featured a picture taken of the group..I wanted them to find out the person who took the picture was the mother..but no one thought of that (but I did)

This seems really similar to how I met your father as well. I watched the first few episodes and rly didn’t give me a reason for caring about any of the characters, the jokes made me feel like I was watching a Disney show, and none of the characters felt real. Idk if that changes later in but I didn’t see a reason to watch more

I would have liked a mini spin off focusing on the two guys Barney teaches the night befire the wedding.

The spinoff everyone wanted was also called HIMYM, and it was Barney telling a bunch of pissed off dudes about his one night stands with their mothers.

I have to agree with that test audience - Greta Gerwig’s delivery of the Carter/Thomas material drops like a lead balloon. I’m sure she’s very talented, this just wasn’t a fitting role for her.

I'll never find another person who loved the HIMYM finale no matter how hard I try

They just need Barney. He can turn anything funny.

Holy moly that's an impressive cast, gahdamn! Glad it didn't kill their careers or anything.

Poor Santino, he's so underrated

HIMYM really is one of the most confusing shows I know. It was so beloved, so popular and it was basically everywhere when I was younger. Then they dropped the finale, and it just vanished. All my friends who used to re-watch the show stopped and beside a few memes the show just went away. They killed it with the ending. And I do believe that is also a detriment to any spinoff. Just knowing something is connected to HIMYM immediately makes me wonder if it’s worth my time and it basically creates big hurdle for that IP to clear in just 1 episode. Add to that some not so great storytelling and there isn’t any shock that this spinoff was a flop.

I want a spin off focusing on Barney dealing with his teenage daughter!! It would be amazing.

I wasn't even aware that a pilot for such spin-off even existed...

The irony... This all applies perfectly to How I Met your FATHER, the only main difference is Hillary Duff's likeability, but somehow the new show is worse adding totally unnecesary characters to the core of the show and the super short season format of streaming that doesn't fit sitcoms

I recently binged HIMYM for the first time and man was season 9 pointless and the series finale 👎🏾 but overall it was amazing

I didnt start watching how i met ur mother till after it ended. I liked it so much I pretty much watched all of it. I saw this and didnt even attempt to watch it.

They should make a spin-off called 'Puzzles'

I'd love it if you could cover the even stranger story of how the original series lasted as long as it did for sucking so much.

I don't think that making characters relatable, although extremely important, is the main reason for the success of a sitcom. Seinfeld and It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia comes to mind as examples, the very core of both the shows is creating self-absorbed, despicable abnormal characters, that in no way can be relatable to anyone. Sometimes things just happen, shows become successful because they tried something new, and more often than not people don't know what they want so how would the network studios! In any case, I really liked the critique of putting rushed in "zany antics" in the show.

Probably a big part of it is I learned this spinoff existed by reading your title.

what do you mean why? 20 seconds into the trailer and I already rolled my eyes and tried to forget this thing existed

5:20 duuuude, give this girl a hug for crying out loud!!! Poor thing is like having a mini panic attack!!!

Let's be honest, the creators also phoned in season's 4 through 9 of How I Met Your Mother.

I would have loved these cast more than the new ones

Had no idea there was a spin-off for HIMYM.... and from what I'm getting from this video, I'm glad I didn't know

Knowing now how sharp and funny Andrew Santino is, it would've been painful to watch him in a mediocre sitcom like this, or any sitcom he wasn't a writer of.

The fact that i definitely did confuse how I met your dad with the how I met your father goes to show how dead the sitcom spin off genre is now.

Dude do a workaholics episode. That show is criminally underrated.

They should have made a show about the mother's side of the story on the journey of the years to meet Ted in the original show. Id love to see that

Why is Santino there?😊

HIMYM is a masterpiece. Don’t really care too much for finales for shows I like in general because I don’t want them to end regardless but sometimes they just have to wrap it up “just because”.

Short sweet and to the point ❤

2:16 when he said the unknown blah blah blah I was like they are still unknown to me 😂😂

Maybe if it had been given time to develop it might have worked a little bit better. Like I feel How I met your father has found it’s footing more in the second season

How I met bobby mom

I could finish the pilot episode of How i met your father ... for this one, i couldn't finish reading the title.

@Nerdstalgic have you seen Chris Distefanos pilot How I met your mother , it’s on KZfaq

I tried to give this spin-off a fair chance and watched a couple of episodes. And it did get the occasional chuckle out of me. It wasn't "BAD" by any means. It was just NOWHERE NEAR the GLORY and LEGENDARY BELLY LAUGHS of the original series. 😅 Edit: Just realizing, I'm not talking about the same show. Of course I'm talking about How I Met Your Father. Never even heard of How I Met Your Dad....

It’s sad how drastically New Girl dropped the ball towards the end out of nowhere

2:16 "at the time unknow Drew Tarver" ... Yeah, he is such a star now...right?

Great video, @nerdstalgic can you share a link for the music you used

Holy Shit. Cheetoh Santino!

I feel like all of these criticisms also apply to how I met your father. It is so terrible.

I really do hate when shows just throw us in the deep end just because the current show has ties to a very similar previous show. You have to rebuild connections for the audience, so we can connect with the new characters without it feeling like you're just copy pasting the same old stuff.

Agreed, didn't know this existed, interesting... and agree. I'd also say the gimmick of a spin off is tying it to the original... but like you said who are these characters? Not like it's set in the same location, like if it'd been from Carl's point of view and he see's these new characters on frequent like the original cast. This is how a show like Frasier can spin off from Cheers, and even go further and become arguably more popular. If it was Barney on misadventures post HIMYM too... it also wouldn't stick... take you referencing Joey's spin off of Friends for example. Highlighting and focusing on the class clown character, it gives you too much of a good thing, and then you don't want it anymore, it runs dry. Like if That 70's Show had a That 80's show centered around Kelso... don't think that'd work either. The characters need to be channeled, filtered, their chaos balanced with the protagonist that is generally on neutral ground, and the good other supporting character. Like the typical joke of an angel and devil on your shoulders in cartoons, Barney was Ted's devil, while Marshal was his angel. Can't live without both, and too much of one would be uninteresting. Along with Barney's journey through HIMYM was a good one with... some ok sort of closure of some kind? We saw him grow up, on so many levels, in so many ways, if a spin off took just his joke aspects, it would most likely be a reduction of his character growth. Marshal and Lily might've worked... but I just came from the why Marshal didn't work video you made and... yeah probably not happening lol. This is why that 90's show did good starting out, why people seem to like it, vs the 1st spin off that 80's show that had little to no relation to the characters (Eric's... cousin or something in California? Can't remember).

I can already imagine the future spin offs: How I met your grandmother How I met your grandad How I met your aunty Etc

I wasn’t surprised the original attempt failed miserably.

Honestly, seeing this, I am genuinely happy about the effort they put into How I Met Your Father, even if most people do already consider it a bust after season 1.

You might as well do one on That 90's Show.

You know from this cast, I can imagine a version of this show as a mashup of Dave, The other two and mumble core cinema styles.