Why This Mode Was Abandoned: Ground War In Call Of Duty

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DartlinFPS

DartlinFPS

Ай бұрын

be sure to let me know your thoughts below! Did you enjoy this mode? It's a shame my favorite mode and honestly the only thing I like on the game is pretty much dead...I don't really enjoy warzone (I can from time to time with a friend or friends, but it's more annoying and irritating than fun for me...) and I don't enjoy the 6v6 multiplayer lately, the matches feel too manipulated like you are up for your time to lose or you are being thrown a bone...

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@TheLazyM
@TheLazyM Ай бұрын
agree, ground war had so much potential that just faded quickly as I saw no support for it
@dartlinfps
@dartlinfps Ай бұрын
I think it was best in 2019 and then putting the helicopter in was a bad idea because it adds a lot of randomness to the match, it almost feels insulting that Warzone has that whole big map for free and the players get three little tiny cutouts from it on gw … there’s literally so many new maps that could be made from more portions of the wz map I think that the company has to spend more money on servers for ground war or something that pushed their decision to stop supporting the mode
@captironsight
@captironsight Ай бұрын
Their competition (Battlefield) quit. Once they realized they didnt have to compete, they dropped it.
@dartlinfps
@dartlinfps Ай бұрын
thats a good point
@deathgrinderb3284
@deathgrinderb3284 2 күн бұрын
thats when they shouldve doubled down. im a bf fan more than anything. i was real bummed as a mobile player with a ipad pro and cooling fan. im super bummer no bf mobile now.
@Duneek
@Duneek Ай бұрын
Groundwar is brutal. Campers, snipers, cowards, etc. But depending on the map, it can be fun. Some of the maps are so big though, it's almost dumb not to snipe.
@dartlinfps
@dartlinfps Ай бұрын
it feels like it's a gamble it's either fun or rly annoying imo sometimes i'm being accused of cheating other times I can't spawn without being sniped 2 seconds after
@Duneek
@Duneek Ай бұрын
@@dartlinfps I've noticed that all most winning teams have to do is just take the objectives and then have like 6 or so guys just camp out in different areas around that objective, waiting to snipe or spray from power positions. Even if you manage to take out a couple of defenders, it's those unseen guy hiding high up in some building who will get you without even seeing their optic flash.
@dartlinfps
@dartlinfps Ай бұрын
having an off angle on an objective will keep majority of players off there, especially if nobody is running smokes etc and trying to creatively counter, you have to use vehicles to push otherwise because the map designs are somewhat death funnels
@MyBadCuhz
@MyBadCuhz Ай бұрын
MW2019 GW was so good, it genuinely felt like there was effort placed into how that mode and the maps were designed. Urzikstan just doesn’t fit the mode well, or atleast the maps aren’t good. A downtown map would make much more sense imo.
@dartlinfps
@dartlinfps Ай бұрын
The whole game design engine and everything was super clean I think it is because they worked with Nvidia directly while building the game engine, it just got bloated over the next 3 years with all the assets they added from vanguard and Cold war
@bonnnetwork
@bonnnetwork Ай бұрын
Im actually pretty baffled at how they have handled MWIII. People are praising Sledgehammer for some reason thinking they're the best studio now. When all they have done is make overpowered DLC weapons and insert everything over from MWII and changed it and said "Look at us we're awesome!". They literally broke the game deciding to allow Stacking of Streaks. There is a reason that was NEVER a thing in CoD. It implores camping more than ever to get those kill streaks and sit in the back of the map and literally end the lobby in a gunship
@dartlinfps
@dartlinfps Ай бұрын
yup, the EMP is really annoying too making it impossible to distinguish teammates from enemies and somebody seems to drop it EVERY SINGLE LOBBY
@ohnobro3770
@ohnobro3770 Ай бұрын
Looping and stacking streaks were in mw2 og I believe but it was removed for a reason
@RonanFTW
@RonanFTW Ай бұрын
Stacking streaks were absolutely a thing in CoD, you have no clue what your talking about
@ohnobro3770
@ohnobro3770 Ай бұрын
@@RonanFTW yeah I didn’t wanna come out the gate so hostile but 100% looping kill streaks has been in cod. This is probably a 2019 or newer player lol. They always think cod started with 2019 or something
@deathgrinderb3284
@deathgrinderb3284 2 күн бұрын
they ar egetting praise because they listen the most out of the other studios. i havnt played a cod since mw19. i play cod/warzone mobile. both are fantastic and very different. cod mobile is like black ops and warzone is like modern warfare. and it does have a free mp. only 5 maps right now though.
@digitalsicario
@digitalsicario Ай бұрын
Good video man, Ground war was my favorite. I feel like i'm fading away from COD everyday, i'm going to finish season 4 and never go back it's just not fun any more.
@jram7115
@jram7115 Ай бұрын
Hi Ping Dynasty got me Ngl 😂
@dartlinfps
@dartlinfps Ай бұрын
I'm sure somebody will be offended by the joke but those mfs do have hi ping, they shouldn't be vpn'ing to my area LOL...if anything they may be kids who are bypassing their limited online weekly gaming time XD
@devinsethna1287
@devinsethna1287 Ай бұрын
First video I’ve even seen from you, and I gotta say, it’s pretty good. Nice job
@dartlinfps
@dartlinfps Ай бұрын
thanks for watching!
@RanDoM5469
@RanDoM5469 Ай бұрын
I would have thought you had thousands of subs. Good video man you got my sub
@dartlinfps
@dartlinfps Ай бұрын
I appreciate that alot!
@theitalianguy9979
@theitalianguy9979 Ай бұрын
My favorite game type of any game was whatever battlefield had, I think it was called rush, where you had to plant bombs on A and B and then the map gets larger the more bombs you plant… it’s like my fav but I can’t bring myself to play bad games even with rush still available
@deathgrinderb3284
@deathgrinderb3284 2 күн бұрын
conquest and operations were lit.
@spiritboxyxbox
@spiritboxyxbox Ай бұрын
Coldwars mode that was like breakthrough in battlefield was amazing, the maps being good helped too, but its such a good mode
@dartlinfps
@dartlinfps Ай бұрын
cold war was a gem definitely, the smaller modes were plagued by sbmm probably harder than 2019 but treyarch games are always the sweatiest too
@RotaryPoweredRX
@RotaryPoweredRX Ай бұрын
​@dartlinfps yep, as someone who played mostly Free for all, those lobbies were packed with turbo sweats.
@default4504
@default4504 3 күн бұрын
They introduced all these cool new game modes then let them die.
@JetsXBL
@JetsXBL 28 күн бұрын
Only thing that’s fun about this version of ground war is abusing streaks looping by using emp scorestreak
@dartlinfps
@dartlinfps 28 күн бұрын
EMP is so crazy lol I always use it as an opportunity to take thumbnail screenshots since it takes the HUD away when the enemy team drops them on me 🤣
@DE45309
@DE45309 Ай бұрын
Ground war and combine arms is where dump over a hundred hours each annoys me and one reasons that I stopped playing mw2 It's was completely ignorance mode
@dartlinfps
@dartlinfps Ай бұрын
I feel like those kinda modes are the only way to escape the manipulative matchmaking but also have their own plague of issues
@teknodopamine0479
@teknodopamine0479 Ай бұрын
I subbed, good video.
@dartlinfps
@dartlinfps Ай бұрын
Appreciate that! Hope you have a good one!
@theirishscouser1155
@theirishscouser1155 Ай бұрын
Mw2019 Groundwar was my favourite experience on cod in the last 5 years. Mw2 and mw3 have completely missed the mark with large scale maps, verticality and that stupid helicopter. Boneyard, Farmland and Aniyah Palace were so fun to play. It's a shame one of them have been removed from 2019
@dartlinfps
@dartlinfps Ай бұрын
The ground war maps are atrocious in mw3 and 2 compared to 2019... I don't know how they dropped the ball so hard when all they had to do was copy and paste some more maps from the warzone maps, they literally could be taking so many players from battlefield right now
@-n-6969
@-n-6969 Ай бұрын
BF player here, planning to buy MW, which have better GW maps? mw2 or 3 ?? and how many GW maps in total?
@dartlinfps
@dartlinfps Ай бұрын
mw2 movement is kinda janky but has the most gw maps I believe and it has variety, mw2019 is hands down the best imo but i have heard it's kinda cheater infested (not sure the skill level of the players claiming such but i'd be inclined to believe them on an older game), MW3 is an insult to ground war they completely neglected us I honestly spent the 70$ in hopes of ground war maps but it wound up being a weapon level simulator for warzone which I can't play anymore due to the inconsistency in connection and servers (the hitreg is arguably the worst in the fps genre on warzone) I'd go with mw2 if you play more ranged with your gunfights and engagements and 2019 if you want faster movement mechanics but they are in some opinions "cheesy" I enjoyed 2019 because it was made alongside with NVidia and they helped build the engine from the ground up, it just runs really well especially if you're on keyboard and mouse
@Wyoutside
@Wyoutside Ай бұрын
No clue how or why but I couldn’t even find a match in ground war and/or invasion for months. I’m in rural WY not Siberia. For fuck sakes what is up? I can find matches now but all the things you mentioned I also observed. I don’t like warzone but do like large maps. With the lack of interest from Activision to make large scale maps and modes fun, not sure where that leaves me. Guess that’s why my time in game is “suffering”. That and the outdoors is better anyways.
@dartlinfps
@dartlinfps Ай бұрын
they have VERY limited servers for the mode it seems
@RotaryPoweredRX
@RotaryPoweredRX Ай бұрын
Talking of great game modes they removed, I was Not happy when they turned 3v3 face off into 6v6. 6 players TOTAL was spot on, then they completely ruined and turned face off into just another "rust-ment"
@dartlinfps
@dartlinfps Ай бұрын
its wild how that player count change COMPLETELY throws off the pacing and the feel of the mode...I feel like they did similar with the 2v2 gunfight to some extent it felt like they stopped releasing maps for that I used to play it with a friend of mine any time we got on as a "warm up"
@RotaryPoweredRX
@RotaryPoweredRX Ай бұрын
@@dartlinfps MW3's iteration of gunfight has been severely lack luster. Nothing but the same boring blue prints since it's release
@SjajaHhsjaj
@SjajaHhsjaj 7 күн бұрын
Am i think the groud war is dead
@radmatos1225
@radmatos1225 Ай бұрын
I agree and would add just one thing: I understand that micro transactions are the future bc companies worry about making money then anything else but they are destroying gaming. It used to be fun to grind and play hrs on hrs of a game to unluck guns, camo, paintjobs, perks. But now i see players who apparently got the game yesterday with all the unbeatable weapons and gear. It kind of takes away that desire to play and get great when i can just buy and be good. Plus im sure everybody has their own opinion but its crazy to me how im spending real life dollars on these games. You used to buy the game and all the other high level perks and additions were given for playing the game. Now i got to spend real life money on some fake game. That will always blow my mind.
@dartlinfps
@dartlinfps Ай бұрын
the amount of developer time/money and the art teams that could be doing more creative stuff are being WASTED on microtransactions when the core elements of games are SUFFERING because they are being designed as PLATFORMS for selling microtransactions moreso than actual games...add engagement optimized matchmaking etc on top and it is essentially a carnival game lol, also NONE of the items purchased in game are owned by players the moment they shut the servers off those items are just a memory lol
@minakatahizuru
@minakatahizuru 14 күн бұрын
Speaking facts why I quit cod game is rigged shit.
@skarano
@skarano Ай бұрын
Why do you sound like youre about to cry
@dartlinfps
@dartlinfps Ай бұрын
Sitting on the seat with meat…
@teknodopamine0479
@teknodopamine0479 Ай бұрын
COD Really REALLY pissed me off with MW2. I will never buy another one again, i play XDefiant now. The only thing ill be using BO6 for is zombies and the campaign and the only reason ill even give them that much is because its coming to Gamepass day one.
@dartlinfps
@dartlinfps Ай бұрын
It’s sad they’ve become a wpn level simulator for warzone lol…mw3 was just them fixing and undoing all they messed up with mw2 and the fans rejoiced lol, I’ll prob get bo6 but I won’t expect much from the 6v6 if I want to test my skill and improve at aiming etc I’ll hop on XDefiant, you can really see yourself get better on there because your experience isn’t being manipulated which is super refreshing, as somebody who works in software and audio engineering, it feels like an insult to intelligence playing many games these days
@iJobama
@iJobama Ай бұрын
Same 3 maps since launch. Highly doubt we get another map in the last 2 seasons. Been hoping for another downtown ground war map to come back since MW2 launched. At least MW2 kept updating with new maps to play. Worst part is they included Ground War in the beta and literally did nothing with the mode. Why showcase it at all?
@dartlinfps
@dartlinfps Ай бұрын
thats a great point I never thought about why did they put it in the beta lol, they essentially catfished us because if you judged on 2019 and mw2 you would assume they'd keep adding maps...it seems like they shafted the zombies players as well this year
@iJobama
@iJobama Ай бұрын
@@dartlinfps I think everyone assumed that after the last 2 modern warfare games pretty much releasing at least 1 GW map per season from a POI on the current Warzone map. Sledgehammer shafted Arms Race in Vanguard too, which I thought was a great mode as did many, yet it only ever had 1 map. And we won't see another Ground War until 2026 at the earliest
@dartlinfps
@dartlinfps Ай бұрын
I won't be surprised if we only see like 3 in the next infinity ward game, I honestly would be somewhat surprised if they don't cut the mode completely because it costs them more money and server allocation to host these larger lobbies of 64 players when they make more money off warzone (frequent players buy stuff in store including me lol I've bought a few things over the years probably like 100$ sadly to say (I guess it's not any worse than buying beer or something honestly it's less harmful lol)
@jacobdupre8138
@jacobdupre8138 Ай бұрын
So i havent bought a cod since mw2019 and i stand by my decision. Mw 2019 was a good game but wasnt my cup of tea probably because i grew up on og cods. As soon as i saw how good mw2019 was doing i knew for a fact they were gonna milk it and look i was right. The last 3 cods have used the same damn engine or atleast variations of it. Cod is so rigged i really dont understand why someone would spend 70 dollars on a game thats the same as the last years one. I understand why people are attracted to cod but its just not worth it anymore i believe its safe to say the fps genre has started its ladder progression.
@dartlinfps
@dartlinfps Ай бұрын
its almost insulting that warzone is the main attraction and everything else is just secondary to that, fps genre is def on a downturn these past few years...cod league will prob be done soon just like overwatch league
@ironrange2491
@ironrange2491 18 күн бұрын
Ground War player here. (Check out my vids). MW 2019 ground war was pretty nice. MW 2022 ground war took time to figure out but I eventually kinda adapted. Uploaded a lot of clips but it got stale. I don't know what MW3 ground war is supposed to be doing. Just 3 maps and it's glitchy AF.
@dartlinfps
@dartlinfps 18 күн бұрын
They host all the servers worldwide on the same small number of dedicated servers I think, this would explain why every lobby is so glitchy and the variety of ping is from 20-300, it seems like they just didn't want to support the mode any more because it costs more money to run or something and probably requires the same level of servers that a warzone lobby does due to streaks, equipment, vehicles, etc...it seems like it also maybe wasn't as popular but look how they neglected even zombies which is a pretty big thing in cod, multiplayer has been taking the back seat to warzone for a while now it seems honestly
@Razzbow
@Razzbow Ай бұрын
HIGH PING DYNASTY HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@dartlinfps
@dartlinfps Ай бұрын
honestly I saw it on a reddit post before I said it so it's not mine lol but it's wild as much money as activision makes they can't get servers for asian players or central america...I am constantly playing against ppl in venezuela and either I have an insane advantage over them or vice versa depending on the traceroute of the packets getting sent to the server the match is hosted on
@Thebigem
@Thebigem Ай бұрын
Modern Cod NEEDS to Die, Activision will Never Change No matter what happens Call of duty needs to be given to those who Actually Love it, and will Expand the Property Properly :( Disgusting to see all the People getting Excited for BO6, Treyarch Fanboys
@dartlinfps
@dartlinfps Ай бұрын
this is why I am rooting for xdefiant AND giving them criticism as well because we deserve better in the fps genre...its sad seeing ppl act like fanboys over trailers that are just cinematic, people are doing it right now with diablo 4 also and preordering with VERY LITTLE information...I feel like I'm in the movie idiocracy or the truman show or something and living an inside joke that I am not in on
@Thebigem
@Thebigem Ай бұрын
@@dartlinfps My Friend Really out here Pre-Order BO6 because of a Woods Skin & the IDEA thats gonna be a Good Game Man knows it gonna be made by Treyarch, and Literally has the Most Common Cod Fanboy Opinions, so My Dude is Lost
@Cord_Virus
@Cord_Virus Ай бұрын
Tldr of the whole story is cod players are just dumb and cope whenever the yearly cod trailer/teaser comes and they cry yeah Treyarch/SledgeHammer will now listen to the community and make a good cod game that will break the cycle.
@dartlinfps
@dartlinfps Ай бұрын
Yup…literally Stockholm syndrome
@user-ey1lc8ms5j
@user-ey1lc8ms5j Ай бұрын
XDefiant isnt all that good, only thing it's got going for it is the no sbmm, game itself is garbage, the hitboxes are crazy, you can start shooting at someone, they run around the corner and they still die 😂😂😂 cod is just garbage all around, they need a system that matches you with good ping, but they wont
@dartlinfps
@dartlinfps Ай бұрын
the hitreg is by far the most GLARING issue with xdefiant for sure, that will drive players away if it's not fixed asap
@JetsXBL
@JetsXBL 28 күн бұрын
Cuz this version of ground war is horrible they have ever made the best ones are mw2019 & Cold War + the only good maps is power plant and levin resort
@dartlinfps
@dartlinfps 28 күн бұрын
I agree, the military base feels like a funnel for sniping campers inside spawn protection
@SAMWELLFPS
@SAMWELLFPS Ай бұрын
Good script ...
@dartlinfps
@dartlinfps Ай бұрын
most of it was off the top of my head but I tried to word it as best as I can, I can't talk as well when I have the facecam on vs reading off my bullet points and treatment (sometimes it is a script but usually it's just something to try to stay on track with talking points)
@Jason-fd3ob
@Jason-fd3ob Ай бұрын
Activision and their game is trash.
@dartlinfps
@dartlinfps Ай бұрын
I can't really disagree with you there esp the activision being trash part lol
@deathgrinderb3284
@deathgrinderb3284 2 күн бұрын
this was hte best mode in mw19. it gave bf players a game when bf dropped the ball. and they have dropped the ball since bf1. now battlefield community has nothing.
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