I have heard a bunch about this, I think that it may also not get alot of attention because controller manufacturers would sell less hardware (think of all the warped thumbsticks that would no longer exist lol) I have never tried gyro aiming, I am curious and have to try it now

@@dartlinfps this isn't the issue because you still need a left stick for movement and most Gyro players still use the right stick for the large "genereal" moves or "Flick Stick" and then do the aim with gyro. PS controller have Gyro since PS4 out of the box, like the steam controller and nintendo controller as well. only Xbox have no Gyro. the main reason is really just overtuned AA and Xbox not supporting it. give it a try, if your interessted, it's really fun to play and so much better than just sticks alone

lol I'm glad input based mm is a thing but I don't find controller to be too big a deal in this game, DEF don't think ranked should be the way it is with inputs though and ranked should also be solos, duos, etc rather than parties just stomping randoms

nobody is whining, if anything this comment comes across as somebody rage baited into clicking the video who didn't watch and just wanted some attention so here it is... I moreso talk about the pros and cons of both and my experience with both in this given game (it varies from game to game) but thanks for your insightful comment! in other news water is wet!

@@dartlinfps this video has 300 views how is this for attention ? Wouldn't I pick a bigger channel ? This is moronic every time a cross play game comes out halo infinite comes to mind this video gets made. Play on your normal input

It's unfortunate to have a ranked mode that is just a controller mode because it's so much easier with AA to be consistent and much faster at killing because the game does it for you. A ranked mode where the skill expression is so low on one and the barrier to entry on the other is so high is just unfortunate, no one would complain if input based was also a thing in ranked.

I agree, especially at close range and the matchmaking is so much faster, tried playing input based mm with kbam this morning and it took minutes to find a tdm match due to time of day, I switched to controller and got a match almost instantly, even with input based off on mouse, many controller players have input based on so you will still have a longer queue time on mnk

I think alot of ppl r in the same boat, the first impression really hurt this game and many won't come back for some seasons if at all

@@dartlinfps yep,i m a tryharder mate and a really good player.been playing fps games since bf 1942.it's a nice concept,but at this state i see no point

I agree, I think in the top of the top levels on this game controllers will reign supreme, it’s just the way the game was designed, it’s easier to hit moving targets, AR and recoil is def harder on controller but if somebody can master it I think they’ll get better results on here vs kbam where it feels like you have VERY little margin for error and you suffer from connection issues more it seems I also noticed if you are input based, controller gets matches WAY faster

Every modern FPS game is made for consoles and controllers, it is what it is. Quake times or 2000s shooters are gone. People still play CS and Valorant, those are the MnK games. Not Warzone, xDefiant of Apex or any other upcoming shooter. Gaming changes with time. (altho valorant aim assist is crazy strong on console beta and if crossplay is a thing one day, I suspect everyone will migrate to controller too)

I feel the same. I played this game with MnK for awhile. I was getting wrecked by controller players. I switched to play with MnK only and did much better. I decided to give controller a try and the first two games I was like 60-20. I had not had anything close to that with MnK. One of the biggest things I noticed was with controller ...once you get on target you pretty much get the kill. I was able to pull off 3-4 kills in a row with little effort. Whereas with MnK it is not as easy especially if the person your shooting at starting jumping around or is movie fast as hell lol. I will stick with MnK and have to accept that I am an average player so getting games with 30 plus kills is not going to happen often. I usually just get 12-18 kills a game with a shit load of assists because I can not finish my kills like with a controller. Also I am older (51) so I know my reflexes etc are not that great. I have had matches where I am trying my hardest and think surely I have like 30 kills because I am running around like crazy. Nope I have 21-10 or something like that and I am LAST or 2nd or 3rd to last. And the top 3 players will have like 30-50 kills. I was in one match the dude was like 65-12 ...I was like WTF how did this person even encounter 77 enemies!!?? Are they cheating or am I that bad at this game. LOL

I think on this game movement is superior on keyboard bc there isn’t any controllers even the scuf etc that can respond as fast as a keyboard like the wooting he, BUT , I have noticed the mouse aiming is a little bit wonky I think bc the game was designed with controller in mind first and was only designed around 800dpi on the mouse and higher dpi results in some “pixel skipping” so what I started doing is I cut my dpi in half from 1600 to 800 and doubled my in game sense and it fixed it (still off sometimes when there’s desync but it feels much more precise)

I've seen a few people mention this and totally agree. I can't quite put my finger on it but the mouse feels disconnected some how in feel.

@@Alex------- it seems to be some thing at the engine level. I would be really curious to know how mouse input feels on the division 2 or on the avatar game that are both on the snowdrop engine

It's not so much your internet speed because most online games only need like 3-5mbps, it's the HORRIBLE CHEAP servers they have us playing on combined with the fact that if you are playing six versus six or warzone you get paired against ppl REGARDLESS of their ping or your ping so you may get put on a Europe server if you are popping off one game and they can't find anybody within the "skill criteria" for the next match, there's also ping jitter that plays a role where you could have 40 ping but the next moment have 35 or 42 and that slight discrepancy can win or lose a gunfight

I noticed them more in keyboard and mouse input vs controller, I haven't seen any in the controller matches, unfortunately it seems like on reddit moderators are taking down posts showing cheaters because ubisoft doesn't want ppl to talk about it or something they want to keep it under wraps

it just is made for bad players to troll other ppl...it completely kills the pace of a good match, you could have the right lobby and map to drop 100+ kills but just getting 3 or 4 on your face can be the difference maker that stops multiple multi kills from happening, it really forces you to completely change your playstyle if you want to counter it and the ppl who claim it has "so many counters" are the kind of players who don't care about their results usually...it's just annoying and doesn't make sense in a shooter game, I also don't like the cleaner firebomb but at least you know a player closed the distance on you

@@dartlinfps I agree, it’s entirely out of place in x definition

you got a better setup than me and I can confirm framedrops too esp on certain maps in certain spots, I think they tried to improve the netcode and they overtuned something with the patch

sometimes I use red dot but sometimes I don't but aside from that usually I go for heavy barrel unless im in a smaller map which i go for rapid fire, fast mags ALWAYS imo, quick draw ALWAYS to compete with mp7 players who will always beat you to first shot if its a sweaty player, suppressor if you are not an echelon faction just to be able to hit multikills better, and if you are echelon, go for the lightweight stock to strafe and air strafe faster as well as move 2.5% faster, I like using red dot because I think it looks more satisfying, but if you can use iron sights better it's got less visual recoil and saves you a slot

@@dartlinfps Thx mate!

no problem, I think AK is the best gun in the game aside from mp7 or the vector within 10 meters or 12 if you use chrome lined barrel and the extender (people use acr because it is easier to use but it is not quite as powerful as the others it is just the all arounder consistent choice)

@@dartlinfps Ngl i was playing a lot with the AK and i like it a lot...but for bigger maps i like to go with the M60, i think i deal better with guns with a slower rate o fire cause my aim kinda sucks. The M60 is surprisingly good, specially if you're in a distance gun fight, it hits hard!!

it's really rage inducing and the #1 reason ppl r getting fed up

I think they hurt their first impression for a lot of ppl esp given the previous betas before launch etc, I think they have to gain faith back from the community def

I really enjoy it flaws and all I think with the attitude of the development team it can deliver something enjoyable for a long time if they keep giving good maps and improving the servers, It really scratches that itch that a lot of cod players and arcade fps players have wanted for a long time it's got the right level of simplicity and doesn't feel like a chore to play

Usually unless the lobby is taking too long at a late hour of night or early am, I find that desync happens from matching with ps5 and Xbox due to input based mm off putting you against not just pc on controller but consoles who can currently only play controller, not so much an issue playing vs controllers I don’t think they’re as strong as in cod, I find pc vs pc gets better hitreg and less desync in general than when you are going against somebody who has the extra step of ps network of Xbox live to add to the congested network

They host all the servers worldwide on the same small number of dedicated servers I think, this would explain why every lobby is so glitchy and the variety of ping is from 20-300, it seems like they just didn't want to support the mode any more because it costs more money to run or something and probably requires the same level of servers that a warzone lobby does due to streaks, equipment, vehicles, etc...it seems like it also maybe wasn't as popular but look how they neglected even zombies which is a pretty big thing in cod, multiplayer has been taking the back seat to warzone for a while now it seems honestly

I personally find the yellow outlines and yellow dot to be less easily lost within abilities vs the red, I think it’s all preference, but it pops more on the screen for me when it comes in sight it contrasts more drastically from the background for me personally Possible Ubisoft hasn’t given the dev team enough server allocation so they’re spread thin over limited hardware (that would rly suck but not surprise me)

I think their first impression for some has been ruined (I'm assuming for you lol) I think it didn't do justice them calling it a cod killer (I don't think the company did that) but it reminds me of cyber punk getting hyped bc it "took 10 years to make" and released as a buggy mess...I think the comparisons or hype can either draw people in or hurt something if it disappoints

@@dartlinfps My first impression is that the game is a clunky, mediocre, dated arena shooter, with lackluster map design AT BEST.

@@williammontague84I can see how you can say that with many animations such as reload being dated and choppy looking, running sometimes looking like the character’s on a treadmill but just moving forward through space making it feel clunky, I personally like the maps but they are really simple compared to more modern games with more complex maps or just more modern design

Console or PC? I think it's happening on both and is a server side problem on ubisofts end

@@dartlinfps console I'm on ps5

@@Quesoiscoome too, ever since the new season came out

@LtRacoon734 I have no clue what's going on bru 🤦🏽‍♂️

Nah it doesn't get good lol

I fear this is the tough spot the game is in where you will never get another first impression and between the release cycle and things still how they are plus a botched ranked launch from what I've seen and heard (I expected it to have issues but I hear ppl were crashing servers right as they were about to lose, ranked matches starting without full teams, the netcode/hitreg is def not ready so ranked is something i expected would be nothing but frustration... Only thing I think the game can do is prove itself over time by keeping their word in terms of giving the game continual and consistent support

Lol nope, I think it's definitely something that would be good I've also seen some other players who want and no ability mode which could be fun but prob niche

@@dartlinfps game seems to be going down the route of apex. Looks like ill be sticking with COD

That was a really good addition because it really explains certain situations where it feels like you got sniped by an MP7

Thank you 🙏

AK at end as well, but any gun you use is great to test in range to get attachments right, test damage ranges etc sometimes the ttk is faster than ive seen on spreadsheets for certain weapons like semi auto pistols

Xdefiant

It's gotta b the lag compensation, I think if your ping is too low they artificially inflate it and other players who have less of that artificial adjustment will see closer to what's "truly" going on which is what the server is seeing... I have had situations where there was somebody with 100 ping and it felt like I couldn't even shoot them

Exactly, I think more people would buy more camos if they went on everything and were better priced

it's really ridiculous and it's actual trolls with names like this "XDsucks" probably somebody who likes call of duty more and wants to ruin the experience for others it's a shame ppl can't notice that a good game outside of call of duty makes for a better call of duty also...

EMP is so crazy lol I always use it as an opportunity to take thumbnail screenshots since it takes the HUD away when the enemy team drops them on me 🤣

I agree, the military base feels like a funnel for sniping campers inside spawn protection

No problem! Glad it helped!

it feels really weird I think it's just due to the fact most games these days are designed with controller first and mouse is less of a priority for the dev team (which is really a shame you have to essentially find your own workarounds) higher dpi seems to skip pixels, I think it is some type of limitation within the game engine where there are movements being rounded to the next decimal point rather than the exact decimal value of a mouse sensor reading so you skip inputs (my technical explanation is probably off but within the ballpark)

Ur right, The tick rate is probably the most important thing followed by properly balanced servers that are not overloaded with instances and lag compensation settings that make sense based off game mechanics and averages between players

More servers as well as putting less matches per server even with 128 take rate valorant has like a thousand matches on a single server so there's like a certain level of balancing that has to be done and a lot of times the corporate overlords are super cheap

Lol wall hacks don't alt tab you out of the game lol... I don't hate it I really just think that they should limit factions to like two per team I know some people will be really mad when somebody else picks their faction though so they probably want to avoid that, I don't hate anybody who plays the spider bot, look how much it did psychological warfare on me

Fast mags, heavy barrel, the red grip, no stock, muzzle booster...fast mags on SMG are a game changer imo because the downtime while reloading is minimized and you get an extra 5 rounds which is an extra elim if you have heavy barrel

lol i had no ac and it was 90 degrees outside I got like 30 assists I had over 90 engagements in the match I could have won, the spiderbots DEFINITELY took the time away that otherwise would have been more engagements, oh yeah did I mention my team still won? The spiderbots definitely had me raging though and I think any faction should be limited to 2 per team but maybe thatll just be in ranked mode (I think it needs it in pubs even just for more balanced teams but ppl will be rly mad when they can't play their 1 trick main whatever that happens to be