This was how I interpreted the finale as well, cool to see I'm not alone!

Shiv didn't reward loyalty? How about the head of cruises and Atn stuff. Logan never rewarded loyalty if he did he would have helped Tom after the cruises incident

@@chiomawoherem4625 she got him those jobs because of how those jobs reflected on her. Her true opportunity to reward his loyalty was when he asked her where he would be in the new Waystar in the season three finale and Shiv was so non committal. After he went with Logan Tom became the true head of ATN and Logan’s right hand man.

@@DSQueenie Tom came to the realization that Siobhan could not carve a place for herself, let alone him, with her father and brothers. Logan used her as a pawn and brothers would have fought her tooth and nail.

BullEye that is what I've been saying. Tom played the game like LittleFinger

He was not middle class he was rich, as his mom was a highly respected twin cities lawyer, he was just not rich rich like the Roy’s

In the quotes of Tywin Lannister: "I don't distrust you because you are a woman, you are not as smart as you think you are."

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Being a puppet is really all that Tom wanted. He never played the game to have real power, only status and money.

Tom won the game, so he is a winner. He plays the puppet to win.

@@SuperScarface83Exactly, going after absolute power is what ultimately destroys the Siblings’ bond beyond repair.

Techincally, Logan won since season 3 because he sold his soul (the company) to Mattson. Lukas Mattson is the true Successor of Logan Roy. "Logan Mark 2, except this time, he's fucking sexy!" Which is actually himself. Also, in the scene where Mattson is panicking after hearing from Tom that Greg's snitching to the siblings, he told his team to go to their phones immediately whatever his problem is. The same thing to Logan whenever he's on the team to make sure that everyone is on the phone. They are under pressure but they make sure that their team members are ready. When Kendall is on a team and try to be a leader, he fails as he mostly nervous, under pressure and will overwhelmed easily.

Tom is a G

I agree that Tom got where he was because of his marriage to Shiv. I think that Shiv wanted that any of his advancement through Waystar|RoyCo would be through the positions that she obtained for herself. The only problem is that I don't think Shiv really knew what the CEO position entailed. I think that she thought that it was Logan barking orders and everyone jumping. Shiv did not realize that Logan was never going to make her a CEO, but Tom did. Shiv was going to thwarted at every turn by her siblings. Tom figured that out, too. So he carved his own path, without her, thus the betrayal. I also agree with you that Shiv becoming her mother in character is conjecture. When the series ended, like her mother, she is married to a CEO, but not in the vain of Logan Roy. When the series ended, Shiv is becoming a mother. Everything else is left to the imagination.

It's also ironic how Shiv determined to not become like her mother and Kendall determined to not become like her father but in the end of the day, they become someone whom they determined to not be. Shiv becomes a lonely CEO wife who will be stay at home while Kendall becomes angry and resilient man who create so many enemies except Shiv still being a shareholder while Kendall has nothing. Also, Shiv who mostly getting left behind and bullied by her brothers finally has her revenge for years, she's finally the one who left them and tear them apart.

There is no feminist argument. Siobhan Roy was a dutiful daughter. She sold the business as Logan wanted and as Lady Caroline Collingwood said they should. She ended up being a partner with her husband Tom by voting to make him a CEO and having his child, as they both decided on in Season 1: he would "wear the big trousers", she would have his baby and do as she pleased. She became a Wambsgans by literally blowing up the Roy family (which is why she accepted Tom's invitation to go home with him).

@@annkey4091 "She ended up being a partner with her husband Tom by voting to make him a CEO and having his child" - The exact concept that she was disgusted early on in the marriage, but jumped right into when she saw Tom wasn't the weak follower she thought he was. When Tom showed he was a real man during the election drama and instead of FIGHTING HIM, which is what Shiv was supposed to do, she cowered and became the good housewife - why? Because again, she's a social climbing coward.

@@iamcase1245 Pardon? With her money and surname, what social ladder was she climbing? Show reads like she started with a leg up on her husband and billions of other people. The use of partner was how Siobhan introduced Tom to Connor while going to visit Logan at home after he left the hospital in S1. WHEN YOU ARE A WOMAN, YOU GO WITH THE BEST OFFER. No offers were coming from her brothers, that is for sure. As far as seeing Tom as a weakling, I am not so sure. She thought that he was "broad" before she married him. At the end of S3, Shiv found out he still is, as he carved his own corporate path without her. At the end of series, he is a 6'3" person who, yes, does the corporate thing for the man who writes his paycheck (just like he did for Logan). As far as the election was concerned, Shiv could not and would not fight Tom in front of Roman and Kendall, with whom she also had election issues. Tom is a paid employee of Kendall and Roman, like he was with Logan. It is something that he clearly understood. In fact, the argument with Tom included her pregnancy announcement, which she did not reveal to her brothers until the next day. Did you watch the program at all? Tom maybe angry/disappointed with Shiv, but he did invite her to his car as he knew it was a good idea to get her away from Matsson and that she blew up her Roy family. They will continue their "get mad, then get glad (in the boudoir)" relationship. Tom's "first, I look at the purse" strategy rewarded him handsomely as concerns of obtaining money, expensive suits and watches and other nice things came to fruition (as he and Siobhan agreed in S1).

@@annkey4091 "WHEN YOU ARE A WOMAN, YOU GO WITH THE BEST OFFER. " - When you're anyone you go with the best offer. I think you meant to say "When you are a woman, you go with what benefits you regardless of betraying any allegiances you have because for a woman it's all about the bag". There I fixed it for you. Now, it terms of her being a dutiful daughter, apart from the glaring contradictions with the rest of your message, if she's so dutiful why did she betray the family 4 times in 3 three years? Once every 9 months. That's a coward. But...she's a woman...so she has to go with the bag...right? Same goes with her predigree. If she carries the Roy and has it all then why betray that name for a bullshit cabinet job? Could be because she's a social climbing piece of shit? Yeah I think that's why. Even Roman, who is a rat sniveling piece of shit never goes as low as Shiv anywhere during the shows arc.

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