One day I watched an entire video of you heaping praises of this camera. Then the next day I see another video of you saying you're disposing of all of them.

Looking forward to next year’s video - Why we’re getting rid of the a7siii 😉

Date the body, marry the lens.

We've all been spoilt with the GH5 👌🤣

Good points - I own a C100 M2 and I didn't go for the C200 because it was still only 4.2.0 8 bit! I have not used the C200, But I really thought the face detection had been substantially improved in the C200 instead of sucking like the very limited face recognition in the C100. Disappointed to hear of the focus deficiency. Also I agree with the stability issues and no IBIS. I've tried shooting with several IS lenses and the improvement in stability handheld is marginal at best. I personally don't like even shooting with a monopod unless absolutely necessary as I feel the images still look amateurish. The IBIS in most mirrorless cameras is remarkably good - can approach gimbal-like appearance in run and gun. However the built-in ND's, XLR audio with decent pre-amps, cooling fan, and layout of controls are a deal-breaker for me - hard to go back once you've had these features.

For run and gun, GH5 might be the best because of its IBIS, still better than a7sIII in active mode. I know it sounds regression. But I really feel GH5 is only one feature away from a perfect mirroless camera that is auto focus.

It's always going to be a changing game. That's just how it works. Change is imminent. Gotta go with what works.

I’m in the same position as you Scott. I bought the C200 and I’m considering switching to the A7SIII as well. Apparently the autofocus hunts like that in lowlight situations because the dual pixel autofocus on the cinema cameras is different from its still cameras. Lately because of the semi unreliable autofocus I have really been practicing on my Manual focus. Plus racking and pulling focus on Ef lenses is way easier than the focus by wire Sony lenses. Either way whatever works for your workflow is the most important part. The A7Siii is an amazing camera and we are living in a great time where cameras are constantly improving every year!

He will be back to the canon side lol. All kidding aside, I totally understand your decision to move away from the cinema body setup to a smaller body form factor. However, I do think you might have left alot of doors unopened with the rigging options with your c200 setup. If you strip away your canon handle setup you can squeeze down to a significantly more manageable form factor. The setup speed increases dramatically as well when you use low profile nato/QR attachments for the monitor. Finally with IS, a more versatile zoom lens with IS would have probably sufficed for the shooting style you mentioned. As a lover and owner of the 85mm 1.4 IS, it's a great lens but not nearly as flexible as a a zoom with IS. Also outside of these points, the financial cost of transferring systems with all new glass can be painful.

Sold my C200 too for the same reasons of building up/ down and transporting.... I hated that about it. I went for the C70 over the A7Siii, primarily for the built in NDs. Happy so far but do miss the viewfinder. For handheld run and gun, I kept my GH5... and I don't think I'll ever get rid of it until the GH6 comes out. Its not that I don't want an A7Siii (I do), but the lack of built in ND's and an IBIS mech that's not as good as the GH5 made no sense compared to the cost of switching systems. Also, the R6 is actually a lot better than I think people give it credit for... its amazing in low light, the IBIS isn't bad (no match for the GH5 though) and the AF is pretty rock solid. Combined with the EF>RF adapter with variable ND filter, the R6 is actually pretty great. Its not good for long takes though I agree.... but then I'm not going to be hand holding it for that long, and if the shot is locked off I'm going to use the C70. It seams that it was much harder for you to part with the GH5 than the C200 (a sentiment I completely agree with), and I wouldn't be suprised if Panasonic win you back with a GH6S that does real autofocus, great IBIS and internal RAW. There's just something about the GH5 that's irreplaceable to me.

I've got a C200 myself and I understand all these remarks. Having to asselble it before use must be a pain, I never disassemble mine at all but simply keep it ready to go in the bag with lens, display, shotgun mic and everything attached. If fits perfectly even with the handle on in a Dr 3 bag by Sachtler. Regarding the autofocus issue during interviews. I've found that it only happens when filmning in log so I sometimes use Wide DR to get around it. Still a sacrifice to make though. IBIS would be nice so is having a camera with built in ND's :)

Something you have to do?!?. Not really. Leave the handle and monitor on... You don't have to disassemble re-build between setups or for transportation...

It's interesting to hear your perspective (I never used the C200 before)! Hope you enjoy your A7S IIIs!

Great video Scott! I’m looking at picking up an A7S3 myself soon.

I agree with you and sold my c200 for the same reasons. In addition I found that the 120 fps slow mo was “how did they ever think this was ok” mushy. My AF wasn’t as jumpy as yours, but I found it unreliable in a different way. It just wouldn’t even try. So when filming myself I would think it was focusing on me but it wasn’t and then in the middle of a take it would start working. Usually if it found me, it stayed locked on though. Either way, it sucks not to trust it...particularly when that’s one of the reasons you buy Canon. I also found the menu system needlessly cumbersome navigating with the joy stick. I wish you could touch the screen. Also, mine arrived dead on arrival and that was a HUGE headache because BH doesn’t treat those returns the same. I had to spend hours on the phone with Canon to get the return authorized and THEY had to handle it with BH. It was a mess and not a great start. I guess I should have seen it as foreshadowing. Lol. Anyways, I’m better off now and it seems like you are too. Great video, Scott.

Good on you Scott. I’d love a video talking about the cost of switching systems. We made a switch two years ago from Nikon to canon, and found the process not being as scary as we thought. Do you buy everything, than sell old kind of thing. Lots of people are fearful of switching.

The last video I saw of yours is when u left the gh5 for the c200, then it seemed like u went silent for a long time then this. Pretty much sums up why the gh5 rocks

Excellent & understandable reasons for changing. Very helpful!

I totally get it. I've got a Sony FX9, and it's WONDERFUL, but I relate to the slow build time, lack of stabilization (you can do it with gyro in post but that's a long workflow), and just missing the small form factor. So odds are I'm going to sell it and get a couple FX3s. I'll probably finally let go of my GH5 as well if the IBIS is close to the GH5's level.

crazy question...does the C200 have the video quality in WideDR to compete with the Sony FX6 in S-Cinetone? simple question...strictly video quality...I see lots of C200 for sale at low price...can't afford the FX6 (but I use it at work but is not mine-I do have a FX30 and is great)...

Have you ever considered the BMPCC6K? Aside from autofocus, why is the A7SIII your preferred option?

absolutely loved using the c200 on those shoots last summer - completely agree on all these reasons for switching of course, but always tough to say goodbye to good gear

It's nice hearing this, not that I was planning on a C200, but it resonates with me getting an EOS R6, which I find has really good autofocus and the IBIS is usable with a non IS lens, but with an IS lens its really really good. I'm getting some amazing footage out of it in 10bit 4k 60p Prores (via the atomos ninja) examples on my channel Scott if you're interested in seeing real world commercial work with the R6 :)

It's a blessing and a curse that there are so many options these days.. Every camera has something that it does better than others and something that it does worse than others.

FX3 is the v best

I think i will still try to safe money for a C200. It’s my dream to own one of them in my life! That’s why it hurts me a little bit when you said that you will let them go after one year of use. At the moment I film everything with the Canon XC10, for the same reasons you have with run and gun situations. It’s light and directly usable with perfect quality for my usage.

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Hi Scott, what lens did you use for this video? It looks great.

Love the gear turnover - keeps you adapting to the work you're doing, and consistently learning. Keep it up Scott!

I literally just got mine last year! I can’t sell it to switch to Sony cuz I have to many ef lenses to switch stuff. I’m sticking with this c200 until I can afford a c70.

The a7S iii will do well, and as a c200 owner feel your pain. Will you just have screw on ND filters now? I can’t go back to shutter speed after using shutter angle and NDs. Pleased that there are camera options in between now though!

Great vid! Where did you sell them? I have one I'm also about to put up for sale to downsize!

You're switching over completely to the A7s3? Do you rig those bodies out a bit, or just shoot with just cam and lens?

At first i was like what!? But then after watching the video it does make sense. Still i wish i could have one😁

Our c70 and c300 MKIII have basically the same af issues in a backlit and low contrast/low light situation. Our R5 on the other hand has the stickiest af I've ever seen, image is great and the IBIS works like a charm. Wasn't the R5 an option for you, since you are deep into Canon glass?

Are the C200s any good for indoor low light short films?

Scott McKenna, do you have any cameras for sale from the equipment you are getting rid of?

Looks like a fun camera. Cheers!

Does that mean you are all in on the a7siii or fx3? Going all Sony? Multiple bodies, lenses, etc?

😆At first, I felt, "Geeettt TFOH!!"🤣🤣, but yeah, for all-day every-day highly mobile, constant-packing-and-going, multi-location work where you want to work handheld all day.. the C200's *not* the ideal camera for you; it was the wrong camera for you guys to buy. (Thanks for being honest about its' good points, though). The a7s3 will *definitely* suit that way of working better.

Just Wait the Canon R1 for the stabilisation and global shutter! I want to Canon from Sony and went back to Canon just don't like the ergonomics from the Sony's.

You remind me a lot to me but with way more money 🤨😂😂👍🏼. I stoped with EOS R. I think I’m gonna have till it breaks🤔👍🏼

Definitely a Peter McKinnon moment when you sai d"If that's something you're into".

You change cameras as much as I change my pants.

I wish I could get one

I feel you Scott.... Where do you go to sell your cameras?

Just got rid of an a7siii to pick up a c200 🤪

Wouldn't FX3 be better for your work than a7s3, with active cooling giving you peace of mind.

Even though Panasonic is the best for video, I admit the af is what stops them from being great.

Just goes to show how fast the pace of the World we are living in. A minute or so to set up a bad ass camera is too long. I get it. But wow. Building out a camera is time to shot think...

what about the color science, canon colors are more warmer in the skin tones are you gonna miss that at all with sonys color?

Where's the video about your replacement kit purchase? Also your Kit.co page hasn't been updated with your new equipment. Just a reminder. 😃

Canon USA *Unfriends Scott on Facebook

How are you rigging your a7siiis?

Did you consider the c70 or pocket 6k pro? Those have nice compact bodies as well

you make buy one five mouths down line feel disappointed

Perfect camera? No such thing.

First, Notification Gang 😁

30 to 45 seconds? You need to loosen up your schedule

Boem!

what doe this guy know about AF. he was claiming the GH5 had the best AF at the time of him owning them. LOL