Why Westerns Matter (And Should Again) - Rageaholic Cinema

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2 жыл бұрын

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@mars___sumner
@mars___sumner 2 жыл бұрын
The Japanese have the samurai and daimyos, Europeans their Kings and knights, the Scandinavian countries the vikings, but we Americans have the westerns. Each people’s legends teach them some of their history and values. It’s past time that Americans return to the freedom and rugged individualism of the old western gunslingers that we all want to be.
@goosegirl941
@goosegirl941 2 жыл бұрын
Great point!
@tinfoilhatter
@tinfoilhatter 2 жыл бұрын
ironic'ly enough, them values, may or may not have stood-the-test-of-time, i guess it all depends on who yer askin', as to what they're tryin' to accomplish with these curiosities, am i right?
@dextercochran4916
@dextercochran4916 2 жыл бұрын
Star Wars has all of that at once. That's why it's so fuckin huge.
@igotfriendsinlowplaces2971
@igotfriendsinlowplaces2971 2 жыл бұрын
Come out to SW Montana and north eastern Idaho. Not much has changed much in some towns and it’s awesome. I have an old gold mine head frame and cabins on my property from the 1860s
@Sandman_Slim
@Sandman_Slim 2 жыл бұрын
Are you drinking paint thinner again?
@_XR40_
@_XR40_ 2 жыл бұрын
There are people who use the word _cowboy_ as a derogatory term, an insult. But in a country with a comparatively short history, the "Cowboy" is the American version of the "Knight-Errant" - This should tell you everything you need to know about those people...
@thewayfarer8849
@thewayfarer8849 2 жыл бұрын
Not much different to a ronin or vagabond, come to think of it, there's not much difference in the Musashi legend. They may as well have been calling him 'cowboy' and that dismissal helped make him great.
@vonfaustien3957
@vonfaustien3957 2 жыл бұрын
@@thewayfarer8849 there's a reason some of the biggest westrens were straight up remakes of samurai movies with the setting swaped
@Azraelseraphim
@Azraelseraphim 2 жыл бұрын
But Cowboys have the least amount of sex appeal compared to the other guys
@tybaltd.1521
@tybaltd.1521 2 жыл бұрын
@@Azraelseraphim Thats because the writers heard stories from men who lived it, or the glowing recants of their sons and daughters. It was gritty, unvarnished, and closer to the truth
@dragonknightleader1
@dragonknightleader1 2 жыл бұрын
@@vonfaustien3957 Erm, Kurosawa was heavily influenced by John Ford, so it's more like Cowboy > Samurai > Cowboy.
@providencebreaker1558
@providencebreaker1558 2 жыл бұрын
I would say even the amoral protagonists you'd see Eastwood and Bronson portray are still infinitely better role models for young men than what we have today. The ability to carry yourself with dignity while not allowing anyone to dictate how you should live or how you should think.
@jacobnewell7845
@jacobnewell7845 2 жыл бұрын
Amoral as they were, they still have their code.
@abrahemsamander3967
@abrahemsamander3967 Жыл бұрын
Even in the old anti hero spaghetti westerns. Good triumphed over evil in the end, even with some hick ups here and there. Specifically the dollars films.
@KratostheThird
@KratostheThird Жыл бұрын
@@abrahemsamander3967 Spaghetti westerns were the turning point. A lot of cheesy 40's and 50's generation westerns just amount to silly musicals while the action consisted of John Wayne style scenes. The men get roughed up and bruised a bit, but the violence had to be greatly toned down, since Hollywood back then was still under the Hays Code. There were no real anti heroes, just standard heroes like John Wayne who had to portray their patriotism in every other western. Clint Eastwood spaghetti westerns were far more raw, violent and vulgar, for lack of better terms. Then America tried to imitate the style with films like The Wild Bunch. The infamous shootout scene near the very end of the film generated a lot of controversy. We started to get films that contained profanity and more crude themes that would of been outright banned during the Hays Code era.
@vincentmarcellino7183
@vincentmarcellino7183 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. They weren't morally black and white. They were shades of grey and showed that a man who appears good is capable of great evil and a man that looks mean can still do the honorable thing. That's a very good moral to teach kids and something that reflects reality a lot more than the shining beacon of morality protagonists
@TrueBuddhaCat
@TrueBuddhaCat 10 ай бұрын
Frankly, that’s what I found myself relating to as a kid and even today While I didn’t grow up on Westerns; even though I live in freaking Texas; my favorite/influences were amoral characters Characters like Guts from Berserk, Batman(especially from Batman: TAS and Justice League), Goliath from Gargoyles, Doom Guy from DOOM, Scorpion and Sub-Zero from Mortal Kombat, Kenshin from Rurouni Kenshin, and many more even today with Goblin Slayer As much as many don’t want to admit, having an amoral character helps write the character far better and the growth of the story as well Too bad many “modern writers” don’t have a clue what an amoral character truly is
@CNNBlackmailSupport
@CNNBlackmailSupport 2 жыл бұрын
Audie fucking Murphy... 19 years old, 5'5" out of ammo, led the charge and captured a German bunker. He received EVERY COMBAT VALOR AWARD THAT EXISTED.
@kartikayysola
@kartikayysola 2 жыл бұрын
And did it with fucking Malaria. Which he had for the whole time he was deployed.
@CNNBlackmailSupport
@CNNBlackmailSupport 2 жыл бұрын
@@kartikayysola He was just trying to up the challenge so it wasn't too easy for him.
@LOTR22090able
@LOTR22090able Жыл бұрын
And then Sabaton wrote a song about him
@jharris0341
@jharris0341 Жыл бұрын
I named my first-born son after Lt. Murphy.
@The_Mighty_Fiction
@The_Mighty_Fiction 10 ай бұрын
You ought to see the photo of him in uniform with his medals on. Guy's wearing more iron than Tony fucking Stark.
@mr.gorgenchuck6501
@mr.gorgenchuck6501 2 жыл бұрын
I hope we can find our way back from post-modernism, which ironically has been around for so long it’s now traditional. The minute we decided we were all too hip for mythological archetypes and our entertainment started elbowing us in the ribs everything went to shit. And the western is our American mythology.
@icestationzebraassociates2460
@icestationzebraassociates2460 2 жыл бұрын
Post post modernism is where it's at
@miniondaechir
@miniondaechir 2 жыл бұрын
@@icestationzebraassociates2460 prefer neo-traditionalism
@thewayfarer8849
@thewayfarer8849 2 жыл бұрын
What gives me hope is it's dead on arrival, a self-defeating and ugly philosophy. It has to be pushed, and steal from others. The thing about upending something and creating from negativity is it invites the same. We'll return to championing true art more, and probably be even more appreciative. A massive cultural thing; history will say 'these people tried ruining a point to anything, and when they failed we never forgot the beauty in archetypes and meaning'.
@Sakattack2023
@Sakattack2023 2 жыл бұрын
@@thewayfarer8849 lol I hope you're right. Movies like the Northman fail because it's not a known IP. But meh movies like topgun succeed.
@thewayfarer8849
@thewayfarer8849 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sakattack2023 I think fail is a relative thing with good stories, it didn't make as much cash, but the acclaim it got by a lot of people is underdog. They had to run hitpeices before it dropped and after, it wouldn't be the first cult classic people pretend they always liked when allowed/commanded to
@TheUnholyHandGrenade
@TheUnholyHandGrenade 2 жыл бұрын
Yee-and I cannot stress this enough-HAW.
@MrDman21
@MrDman21 2 жыл бұрын
🤠 yippy-kiyay!
@TheGreenKnight500
@TheGreenKnight500 2 жыл бұрын
I'm beginning to see the gravity of what you just said.
@bigprobllama
@bigprobllama 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine a world were there was no Disney SW and they used the Western "Lone Gunman" formula for the Kenobi series, with the Jedi wandering through the desert and getting rid of scum all over Tatooine. Or if the Mandalorian was a proper bounty hunter working his way through the outer rim...
@adamkenway7308
@adamkenway7308 2 жыл бұрын
There's a Star Wars Expanded Universe novel from before the Disney purchase called "Kenobi" that is essentially a western with Obi-wan as the Mysterious Stranger. It's really good.
@jamesthompson7694
@jamesthompson7694 Жыл бұрын
Stop it, I can only be so erect.
@loudtaste1046
@loudtaste1046 Жыл бұрын
@@adamkenway7308 it’s great and yet Disney still fucked it up
@squelchotron8259
@squelchotron8259 Жыл бұрын
@@adamkenway7308 I'll have to read it.
@nathansteinfromarkham7109
@nathansteinfromarkham7109 5 ай бұрын
Shut up and take my money!
@Muck006
@Muck006 2 жыл бұрын
The reason why westerns are great/necessary can be said in one sentence: *_“In those days spirits were brave, the stakes were high, men were real men, women were real women and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.”_*
@natestathes
@natestathes Жыл бұрын
What is that from?
@Rock-my2ko
@Rock-my2ko Жыл бұрын
@@natestathes Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
@readyorknot2344
@readyorknot2344 Жыл бұрын
I hope you brought your towel
@readyorknot2344
@readyorknot2344 Жыл бұрын
That hit me like a goldbrick wrapped in a lemon
@pramanabudiman9761
@pramanabudiman9761 Жыл бұрын
42, the meaning of life
@ScrogginHausen
@ScrogginHausen 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: my grandmother in her 20s (which would've been in the 30-40s) wrote a western script for film class called Chisholm whose main character was modeled after her dad, a Scottish immigrant, and sold it to a studio for $50. Years later John Wayne starred in a western called 'Chisum' (pronounced like her maiden name) that was eerily similar to the script she wrote.
@jaredt5127
@jaredt5127 2 жыл бұрын
I sing that shit all the time 😆 Chisum, Johhhn Chisuuum 🎵
@BoSmith7045
@BoSmith7045 2 жыл бұрын
That is so cool. Also kinda messed up. $50 was nice little payday back then but no where near what she should have been paid. But that's Hollywood for you.
@silverhawkscape2677
@silverhawkscape2677 2 жыл бұрын
@@BoSmith7045 That's the risk you get for selling a Script to a Movie studio who could make more without Royalties.
@AbrasiousProductions
@AbrasiousProductions 2 жыл бұрын
That's absolutely amazing! My great grandfather shook hands with john Wayne in 1955
@Dee-nonamnamrson8718
@Dee-nonamnamrson8718 2 жыл бұрын
Any relation to Jesse Chisolm?
@TheHangarHobbit
@TheHangarHobbit 2 жыл бұрын
The problem with doing a modern western is simple...modern Hollywood can't write bad guys for shit and won't make anything without sticking "the message" in with all the subtlety of a 1980s Very Special Episode. Look at the classic Leone westerns, Angel Eyes, Tuco, Rojo, the bad guys in his movies were fucking awesome! Today you get Marvel Villains which are either cookie cutter cartoon baddies or snarky comic relief. So while I would love for westerns to make a comeback they will have to be made outside the USA like the Spaghetti westerns of old because Hollywood simply cannot make a decent western these days without royally cocking it up or cramming propaganda down our throats.
@cargosquid
@cargosquid 2 жыл бұрын
Villains? Hell... they can't write any GOOD characters. When was the last time Hollywood wrote a hero? Even Captain American and Thor came out of other sources. And Hollywood can't wait to screw with those. Create heroes...fat chance.
@spencerwilliams461
@spencerwilliams461 2 жыл бұрын
I dunno. Some of the villains in Yellowstone are real pricks. Lol. Same with all the Anti-heroes and heroes.
@The_Mighty_Fiction
@The_Mighty_Fiction 2 жыл бұрын
The Daily Wire just made a Western. Movies _can_ be made outside the open-air shithole that used to be Hollywood.
@jpteknoman
@jpteknoman 2 жыл бұрын
what once were villains are now the heroes of the writers of hollywood. just look at Kenobi, Reva (the villain who's always angry, violent and impulsive) is their idea for a good role model for children
@The_Mighty_Fiction
@The_Mighty_Fiction 2 жыл бұрын
@@jpteknoman Villainesses. Disney at least have spent the last few years trying to pull off 'villainess rehab' movies, like Maleficent or even Cruella, a woman who literally want to _skin puppies._ And long-time fans of Doctor Who may have noticed that as soon as they turned the Master into a chick, she started re-evaluating her life choices about five minutes later. Regardless, they can't seem to chick up Westerns. They tried anti-heroines (The Quick And The Dead, anyone? Bad Girls?...Yeah, me neither) and failed abysmally, which is why I think they shelved the genre. They were like 'We're not making movies for dudes, fuck all y'all.'
@DiscoBarbarian
@DiscoBarbarian 2 жыл бұрын
My working theory as to the fall of western civilization is: 1. Participation trophies for everyone... 2. Banning Dodge Ball in Schools.... 3. No Westerns on Prime Time TV. Great Video Rage.
@theobell2002
@theobell2002 2 жыл бұрын
This is ironic, right? I'm legit asking because I cannot tell with you rightoids.
@Ryan_Thompson_Guitarist
@Ryan_Thompson_Guitarist 2 жыл бұрын
The Sergio Leone trilogy with Clint Eastwood was how I got into old movies, and I still rank it among the best movies ever made.
@973sandman
@973sandman Жыл бұрын
Sergio Leone among best directors ever.
@juanescobarrojas8330
@juanescobarrojas8330 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree with the need to make more old school morality stories. I’m getting tired of the old “nobody is entirely good or evil” tales.
@apocalypticash1242
@apocalypticash1242 2 жыл бұрын
Jordan Peterson I think said it "Moral Ambiguity is the cowards argument." I frankly have to agree. Those stories are annoyingly stupid. What? Should I do nothing?
@juanescobarrojas8330
@juanescobarrojas8330 2 жыл бұрын
@@apocalypticash1242 yeah that’s honestly it. Moral ambiguities tend to come from lazy writing. What’s more compelling is having a morally upstanding character have his principles tested and rising above the odds to become better.
@jamesdevore3022
@jamesdevore3022 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately they won't make any new westerns without gender/race swapping characters (Think 2 Mules for Sister Sarah where the nun is a dude in drag) and the western just doesn't lend itself to modern SJW sensibilities. That and most of the real people (Wyatt Earp, Buffalo Bill, and Wild Bill) have been cancelled by modern people because something they said or did in their time is now immoral and insensitive.
@charliechurch5004
@charliechurch5004 2 жыл бұрын
@@juanescobarrojas8330 YES!! THATS WHY I LOVE BATMAN!!
@RicardoAGuitar
@RicardoAGuitar 2 жыл бұрын
I agree that no one is entirely good or entirely evil, but while that may be the truth of the matter it makes for lousy entertainment
@noleafclover1641
@noleafclover1641 2 жыл бұрын
They matter because they represent every that is good about America and everything that is missing in modern America: Rugged masculinity, femininity, individualism, a sense of objective morality, discipline, liberty. All of which are desperately needed back in modern day America. That is why they are important.
@theobell2002
@theobell2002 2 жыл бұрын
"Liberty" Ah yes, nothing was more liberating than the good ol' times of genocide and slavery. 🤡
@reikun86
@reikun86 2 жыл бұрын
My grandma was born and raised in Japan. Of all things, Westerns were her favorite genre. She married my grandpa after he took her to see a John Wayne movie.
@KratostheThird
@KratostheThird Жыл бұрын
@Raylan Givens Not to mention Chuck Conners was tall with his 6 foot 5 inches frame, was strong willed and was a great role model for the youngsters. My Baby Boomer dad loved The Rifleman. As many Boomers did.
@KratostheThird
@KratostheThird Жыл бұрын
@@reikun86 John Wayne - rugged, conservative, stood for American patriotism, participated in conservative politics, knew his role. All things that many Millennials and Zoomers are sorely lacking.
@KratostheThird
@KratostheThird Жыл бұрын
@Raylan Givens I just realized that these leftist controlled media streaming services don’t have some vital westerns.
@sweynskarilsen9105
@sweynskarilsen9105 2 жыл бұрын
"Have Gun Will Travel reads the card of the man, a knight without armor in a savage land."
@darrylldoucette6895
@darrylldoucette6895 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget that the Coen Bros remade TRUE GRIT IN 2010 and in 2018 the excellent western anthology, THE BALLAD OF BUSTER SCRUGGS. The classic Western may never again define the culture but it still has stories to be told by thoughtful filmmakers.
@theminister1154
@theminister1154 Жыл бұрын
He also fubared the best TV Western (lonesome dove) & the best 80's Western (Silverado.) There's a new widescreen cut of Lonesome dove they made to broadcast alongside 1883, which is pretty tasteful of Tyler Sheridan given that he completely stole 1883 from McMurtry's book. You know when something is better than Deadwood in it's own category it's pretty fuckin' good.
@somerandomname75
@somerandomname75 2 жыл бұрын
Hit the nail on the head. Westerns are one of the most important genres, not just in film, but arguably fiction as a whole. Here's hoping your prediction comes to fruition and we see a new Western renaissance.
@Muck006
@Muck006 2 жыл бұрын
The western is simply the american version of the HERO movie ... which is simply different for the setting. In the 50s and 60s there were LOADS of movies about knights AND arabian tales (Sinbad) ... which are basically the same with a different setting. I couldnt say how many versions of Ivanhoe or Robin Hood I have seen in my youth, but there are A LOT.
@elijahsnow3119
@elijahsnow3119 2 жыл бұрын
Lee Van Cleef approves this message. Rest In Peace sir. You had more gravitas in one long stare than this entire generation of Hollywood has in their entire bodies.
@MichaelRBrown-lh6kn
@MichaelRBrown-lh6kn 2 жыл бұрын
I think I read somewhere they wanted him to get his nose broken to help his movie career
@KratostheThird
@KratostheThird Жыл бұрын
Lee Van Cleef came up when men were allowed to be men in Hollywood. Western society allowed men to get wives, children and families in proper homes. What Millennials and Zoomers on the Far Left are doing makes me sick. The show Velma is a perfect representation of what Hollywood is now. Evil, corrupt, condescending, destructive, and overly woke.
@williamw2529
@williamw2529 Жыл бұрын
List of film mentions/recommendations: 3:21 the searchers 4:32 have gun will travel 5:43 a fist full of dollars 6:40 Django 7:16 Sartana 9:05 The Great Silence 10:14 The Outlaw Josie Wales 11:13 Pale Rider 14:22 Deadwood (show) 16:00 310 to Yuma, Appaloosa, The Old Way 17:00 Bone Tomahawk 17:14 Dark Valley, The Salvation
@theminister1154
@theminister1154 Жыл бұрын
MIssing: *LONESOME fuckin' DOVE,* Hell on Wheels, Sliverado. Add more if you got em. Razorfist also mentioned Shane & Open Range & the Australian one, which is a pale shadow of Lonesome Dove but still not bad. As is 1883. There's another Costner miniseries which I liked somewhat, forget the name. And a pretty good Johnny Depp thing... dead man I think it was. Firefly is a Western too, come to think of it. Damn fine show.
@Taranchule
@Taranchule 2 жыл бұрын
I can already tell this will be a video I rewatch every now and again. Western, Film Noir and Sword & Sorcery. Three film genres that are in DIRE need of a comeback.
@scollin8096
@scollin8096 2 жыл бұрын
My grandparents would almost exclusively watch westerns and cop shows. I’d come in the house and there’s grandpa, watching John Wayne for the umpteenth time. They hardly ever cared for anything modern. One of the only modern films they ever watched and *loved* was Hell or High Water with Chris Pine and Jeff Bridged. Though I can’t say how close it held to the western standard, it’s a good example of how even the sense of of that can still be well received today.
@bloodofmyenemies
@bloodofmyenemies 2 жыл бұрын
They sound awesome. Hell Or High Water is great. One of the better films made this century imo.
@moonlightbliss4791
@moonlightbliss4791 2 жыл бұрын
Westerns and John Woo films are the best
@brianlinden3042
@brianlinden3042 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a nice, simple story about a lawman riding into town with a big iron on his hip, again.
@bthomson7770
@bthomson7770 2 жыл бұрын
I was a huge fan of the "newer" westerns such as Wyatt Earp and Tombstone, I'd love to see a modern revival of the genre on a bigger scale.
@TheHortond
@TheHortond 9 ай бұрын
magnificent 7 is ok. If you haven't seen it.
@jarhead21100
@jarhead21100 Ай бұрын
3:10 to Yuma. Russle Crowe and Christian Bale
@collativelearning
@collativelearning 2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff Razor. A few thoughts to add ... Westerns had a partial continuation with the Mad Max series (cars instead of horses) and its many post apocalypse imitators. I think the zombie movie genre has also acted as a psychological replacement, being those movies involve the collapse of civilization and a return to a wild west of sorts. Though the 80's lacked official westerns, action movies like the brilliant 48 hrs, Predator, Star Wars, Westworld and Robocop have western elements ... not that I'm endorsing the death of the traditional western. Clint Eastwood's Every Which Way / Any Which Way comedies retained western elements, as did Dirty Harry. I absolutely agree the audience is still there for trad westerns. My daughter adores Clint Eastwood. All I have to do is mention his name in relation to a movie she hasn't seen and she jumps at the option to see it. She loved For A Few Dollars More, High Plains Drifter as well as other westerns like The Magnificent Seven (original one of course), and the criminally underrated Charles Bronson western Red Sun. BTW a recent western you didn't mention which I enjoyed was The Sisters Brothers (2018). Unfortunately it flopped, drags on a bit too long and lacks a strong protagonist the audience can really identify with. But yes, modern westerns could do with some sort of twist to spice them up, as happened with the Spaghettis. Maybe that's what already happened though with all those 80's "western in spirit" flicks. Personally I think High Plains Drifter hit the ball out the park with it's ghostly elements (Pale Rider for me felt like a weaker, less gutsy remake). Supernatural westerns ... I'd like to see a lot more of those. I mean the spiritual thing is already there in the beliefs of Native Americans so that could be hugely expanded upon.
@TheRageaholic
@TheRageaholic 2 жыл бұрын
I would strongly recommend reevaluating Pale Rider. It's a more committed version of High Plains Drifter. And yet a mirror opposite of it at the same time. The end of Drifter sees the Stranger transform the town of Largo into Hell. The climactic shot showing Eastwood framed against flames like a vengeful demon. The way the camera shoots Eastwood even treats him that way. From above or the side. Often in silhouette. Pale Rider, meanwhile, shows the Preacher against the blue skies and snowy mountains. In the final confrontation, the heavens are literally at his back. An avenging angel dispensing God's wrath. It's a magnificent film I've come to appreciate more than Drifter. There's a bit more going on under the hood.
@careycarson7629
@careycarson7629 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheRageaholic My thoughts exactly. Pale Rider sparked an interest in me wanting to write Westerns.
@scottm.603
@scottm.603 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheRageaholic I also like how Pale Rider is more subtle and ambiguous than HPD with regards to the protagonist. In HPD, it is made very clear that he's a revenant back from the dead to wreak a terrible vengeance. In Pale Rider...maybe? It's suggested, but never explicit.
@kungfutzu3779
@kungfutzu3779 2 жыл бұрын
hmm let's see.. how about the star shoots the cinematographer - is that enough of a twist?
@jacksonjacob7791
@jacksonjacob7791 2 жыл бұрын
The assassination of Jesse James by the coward robert ford Was a really good western movie imo.
@aidanwow1593
@aidanwow1593 2 жыл бұрын
I think that we can also attribute the success of The Mandalorian to people wanting new westerns given how it takes a lot of inspiration from shows like The Lone Ranger.
@hariman7727
@hariman7727 2 жыл бұрын
Lone Wolf and Cub: The Mandalorian and Grago.
@mattm7798
@mattm7798 2 жыл бұрын
Very true. It is essentially a western...set in a space fantasy universe
@Red_Devil_2011
@Red_Devil_2011 2 жыл бұрын
I know people like Mandalorian but I thought it was really bad. I expect any Westerns they start to make will be just as boring, contrived, and gimmicky.
@frankf684
@frankf684 2 жыл бұрын
A first season episode of The Mandolorian was basically the seven samurai plot line.
@dbf1dware
@dbf1dware 2 жыл бұрын
Quite frankly, let's not forget that A New Hope was essentially a Western in space.
@ozymandiasthemisanthrope6919
@ozymandiasthemisanthrope6919 2 жыл бұрын
Clint Eastwood said "Making 'Outlaw Josey Wales' wasn't a good time for westerns, but it was a good time for me" is what made it my personal favorite, he made a masterpiece in his on time, recognized or not at the time.
@curtiskretzer8898
@curtiskretzer8898 2 жыл бұрын
Joseph Wales & William Munney were two super duper mega king great characters. They both seem starkly real
@charlesdaugherty321
@charlesdaugherty321 2 жыл бұрын
The quotes from that era... Pure Gold. "I call that bold talk for a one eyed fat man!" ... "FILL YOUR HANDS, YOU SON OF A BITCH!"
@MegaMaximus333
@MegaMaximus333 2 жыл бұрын
The good the bad and the ugly is and will always be my number one movie. Loved all the characters but Tuco is my spirit animal.
@phonepunk7888
@phonepunk7888 2 жыл бұрын
Last weekend I was watching some old western tv shows like The Cisco Kid. It's almost embarrassing how easily each episode showed the nature of true heroism. The man in black comes into town and is eager to hear about the problems and do everything he can to set them right. By contrast modern heroes are entirely selfish and exist in a bubble, to be idolized. Watching those old shows is like looking through a portal into a world where morality still exists.
@alucard624
@alucard624 2 жыл бұрын
Cheyenne is another good one with Clint Walker.
@KratostheThird
@KratostheThird Жыл бұрын
@@alucard624 Clint Walker was tall, handsome and rugged.
@constantin5509
@constantin5509 2 жыл бұрын
Fallout New Vegas is technically a Western as well(mixed with other genres).I'm convinced the setting was a huge part in why the game was so beloved.
@shieldinhand6586
@shieldinhand6586 2 жыл бұрын
Grew up on John Wayne westerns mostly, then Clint Eastwood, and got into Deadwood as an adult. Red Dead Redemption 2 was amazing for me because it was not only an incredible game with great storytelling, it was simultaneously nostalgic.
@theaverageDon
@theaverageDon 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget, Yellowstone is a huge hit. I know it's not actually a Western, but it goes to show people crave the scenery rather than obvious green screen action scenes
@wetincornwall6882
@wetincornwall6882 2 жыл бұрын
Oh I dunno, it's about an old school cattle rancher trying to fight off the robber barons. Western enough for me, I love it.
@pontiusporcius8430
@pontiusporcius8430 Жыл бұрын
It's prequel 1883 sure as hell is.
@mylifeisacomplexpastiche7901
@mylifeisacomplexpastiche7901 Жыл бұрын
Just because it’s set in modern times don’t make it any less western.
@max2000warrior
@max2000warrior Жыл бұрын
Hell or High Water sure is.
@pramanabudiman9761
@pramanabudiman9761 Жыл бұрын
This is called Neo-western. Story that located in the present day, but has the same tone of a western.
@thecopperowl8386
@thecopperowl8386 2 жыл бұрын
For a Few Dollars More is my favorite! One of the best duels in a western, with Lee Van Kleef acting through his expression and a killer theme to go with it.
@grinningtiki220
@grinningtiki220 2 жыл бұрын
Stormrider with Lee Van Cleef has some spectacular stunts in it.
@TheChach
@TheChach 2 жыл бұрын
Me too, love the dynamic between Lee and Eastwood's characters in that.
@jkincaid582
@jkincaid582 2 жыл бұрын
The show down with El Indo, with the music box playing. That scene is fucking masterful.
@htf5555
@htf5555 2 жыл бұрын
i get a lot of shit for this but i think its better than good bad and ugly
@thecopperowl8386
@thecopperowl8386 2 жыл бұрын
@@htf5555 it's because their wrong and your right
@grandmufftwerkin9037
@grandmufftwerkin9037 2 жыл бұрын
The Outlaw Josey Wales, Fort Apache, Pale Rider, Rio Bravo, She Wore a Yellow Ribbon, The Searches, etc. Edit: I forgot to mention another one of my favourites; Jeremiah Johnson. Pure film glory.
@icestationzebraassociates2460
@icestationzebraassociates2460 2 жыл бұрын
A Man Called Horse - I'll always remember that one.
@rumblebird9888
@rumblebird9888 2 жыл бұрын
Chato’s Land
@kendrickkipikas5458
@kendrickkipikas5458 2 жыл бұрын
The Outlaw Josey Wales is my all time favorite movie. So many legendary one-liners... "Man's gotta make a living somehow" "Dying ain't much of a livin', boy"
@kendrickkipikas5458
@kendrickkipikas5458 2 жыл бұрын
Of course razor uses that scene in his video. I'll reference my second favorite liner "You reckon we should bury 'em?" "Buzzards gotta eat, same as the worms"
@bak-mariterry5180
@bak-mariterry5180 2 жыл бұрын
The Man Who Shot Liberty Vallance .
@mantovannni
@mantovannni 2 жыл бұрын
My all time favourite films are a fistful of dollars, for a few dollars more and the good, the bad and the ugly. I recently learned that John Wayne used to run errands for Wyatt Earp when he was a young 'un.
@greatrieck
@greatrieck 2 жыл бұрын
You know that movie series The Expendables? We should do that but make it a spaghetti western. A bunch of old action stars that are in their 70s and with that just have them all being kickass cowboys taking out evil where it needs to have a diet change from dried meet to burning lead.
@EG-wp9yj
@EG-wp9yj 2 жыл бұрын
The biggest thing that stands in the way of any good movies going into production and surviving the movie industry is the movie industry itself. The MESSAGE outweighs anything else as far as they are concerned, and that includes good story writing.
@Sweetbaby_Jesus
@Sweetbaby_Jesus 2 жыл бұрын
Daily wire is changing the game. The culture war is being waged in full force
@Red_Devil_2011
@Red_Devil_2011 2 жыл бұрын
Hollywood is open and blatant about their politics and subversiveness now. No Western will ever be made that isn't dripping with anti White messaging.
@Mathmachine
@Mathmachine 2 жыл бұрын
Considering our current obsession with superheroes I'm somewhat surprised that more people aren't trying to make Westerns in general considering they were essentially cinema's OG superheroes.
@thephoenixhasflown
@thephoenixhasflown 2 жыл бұрын
The lone ranger. The Cisco kid Wild Bill hickok! Straight arrow Hopalong Cassidy Red Rider Lightning Jim I know I missed a few feel free to fill them in.
@gusty9053
@gusty9053 2 жыл бұрын
You can't have nearly as many "strong female leads" in a western as you can stuff into the M-she-U (as an example). And Hollyweird can't abide that.
@manitoba-op4jx
@manitoba-op4jx 2 жыл бұрын
they're cooler because they're believable
@thewayfarer8849
@thewayfarer8849 2 жыл бұрын
It's an obsession with corrupt superheroes. Westerns have guns, law, and force of personality whether you have a hero or villainy. You will have people using tools in a certain environment. Superheroes can devastate areas without killing anyone, and they're about hiding your identity and powers largely unearned. It appeals to a lot of followers today as it's easier, but that's just my opinion.
@butthz8850
@butthz8850 2 жыл бұрын
Old Henry is recent, and good.
@MosleyLivesAndMarchesOn
@MosleyLivesAndMarchesOn 2 жыл бұрын
We need more rageaholic cinema episodes you beautiful bastard!
@johnnybrown542
@johnnybrown542 2 жыл бұрын
Funny enough, there was a movie that did mix Samurai and Cowboys. Its called Red Sun. And it features Charles Bronson and Toshiro Mifune (yes, that Mifune). Either way, we need a revival of Western.
@kartikayysola
@kartikayysola 2 жыл бұрын
Heaven help me that sounds like the most awesome fucking thing in the world. Please tell me it worked.
@johnnybrown542
@johnnybrown542 2 жыл бұрын
@@kartikayysola It did. You can actually watch the movie here on youtube. Just look it up.
@bigkmoviesandgames
@bigkmoviesandgames 2 жыл бұрын
Ever since seeing the Good the Bad and the Ugly as a kid I've always loved the Western genre and hope that it has a Resurgence one day.
@Megatron_95
@Megatron_95 2 жыл бұрын
All in good time and western will make a comeback
@bigkmoviesandgames
@bigkmoviesandgames 2 жыл бұрын
@@Megatron_95 definitely a possibility.
@tinfoilhatter
@tinfoilhatter 2 жыл бұрын
who was it said, 'the west-is-the-best', right? and like, where-are-they-now, see?
@Megatron_95
@Megatron_95 2 жыл бұрын
@@tinfoilhatter I never heard of that saying
@BruhMoment-fr4zr
@BruhMoment-fr4zr 2 жыл бұрын
I'd rather let the Western genre remain buried and unmolested than see modern Hollywood reanimate the corpse and "reinterpret" it for Modern Audiences™
@thephoenixhasflown
@thephoenixhasflown 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised the Western and the ghost story together wasn't done a whole lot more they just seem to go together for me.
@Wastelandman7000
@Wastelandman7000 2 жыл бұрын
Me too. For that matter any paranormal Weird West story works too. A lawlessness would be a magnet to things like werewolves and vampires. Lack of organized resistance or institutional reprisals would make the west (or the post apocalypse) a natural (pun intended) for paranormal monsters.
@kielbasamage
@kielbasamage 2 жыл бұрын
@@Wastelandman7000 Now that I think about it, the only supernatural western I've seen was Priest.
@alucard624
@alucard624 2 жыл бұрын
@@kielbasamage Which in many ways is a steampunk take on The Searchers but with vampires instead of Comanche Indians.
@MEGALODONGERS
@MEGALODONGERS 2 жыл бұрын
I'd say there's still certainly a market for Wild West horror. On the video game side of things, look how well-received Red Dead Redemption: Undead Nightmare and Hunt: Showdown have been. Actually, the latter apparently has a live-action series in the works.
@rorschach1985ify
@rorschach1985ify 2 жыл бұрын
@@Wastelandman7000 Funny you say that because there is actually a very old film made in 1959 that might be the first or one of the first Horror-Western mix in films about a Vampire terrorizing a town in the old west called Curse of the Undead. Was originally made as a joking bet since even for that time they thought no one could make a serious horror-Western film and after watching i thought it was pretty decent for what it was. Not Oscar worthy or anything but for a first time thing it handled itself pretty well.
@FrankMillersEvilHat1
@FrankMillersEvilHat1 2 жыл бұрын
I think a lot of old western shows are very underrated in terms of story telling. I watched episodes of Gunsmoke, the Virginian, and Rifleman and while family friendly they deal with stories about generational vengeance, mob justice, dealing with getting older, how rivalry can heat up leading to tragedy, dealing with death, and so much more. I love how the heroes while they have some moments or doubt or saddness it never over takes them and they become sad saps. They are still strong and powerful. Ready to fight for justice. Matt Dillon was a badass.
@Gren17
@Gren17 2 жыл бұрын
Lonesome Dove deserved a mention. The books and mini series are the greatest western media of all time imo.
@theminister1154
@theminister1154 Жыл бұрын
PERIOD. Nolo fuckin' contendre. By the way, check out the new 720p widescreen cut... makes it EVEN BETTER. Paramount put it out when 1883 premiered as a sly apologia/tribute to McMurtry.
@peepongdingdong9208
@peepongdingdong9208 9 ай бұрын
@@theminister1154 Shit Lonesome Dove was one of the first westerns I saw as a kid alongside Tombstone.
@theminister1154
@theminister1154 9 ай бұрын
You were privileged! Most have never seen it@@peepongdingdong9208
@highadmiralbittenfield9689
@highadmiralbittenfield9689 2 жыл бұрын
Oh shit razor dropped a vid on one of my favorite genres
@WackadoodleMalarkey
@WackadoodleMalarkey 2 жыл бұрын
You are one fast hombre on the draw brother
@erikjimenez8671
@erikjimenez8671 2 жыл бұрын
The only way for Western‘s to come back is America needs to take back its identity and show why the cowboy is synonymous with America just like Europe with chivalrous knight or the stoic Samurai from Japan.
@ArtistFormerlyKnownAsShitlord
@ArtistFormerlyKnownAsShitlord 2 жыл бұрын
"Harder to find than a pulse on a Clinton witness." 😂😂 I spat my coffee!
@svensorensen7693
@svensorensen7693 2 жыл бұрын
>Independence >Guns >Noble Heroes >Attractive Women Gee, I wonder why Hollywood just can't seem to make a proper western anymore
@theobell2002
@theobell2002 2 жыл бұрын
Because we all know Hollywood is lacking all of those. This comment section is a clownfest, forreal.
@samuelprice2461
@samuelprice2461 2 жыл бұрын
A little disappointed you didn’t mention the True Grit remake here. Probably the best Western movie made in two decades.
@onlyweknow2
@onlyweknow2 2 жыл бұрын
True That
@Wolf-Wolfman
@Wolf-Wolfman 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not normally a fan of Westerns but I really liked that one
@mrspeigle1
@mrspeigle1 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely, one of the few westerns worthy of sitting next to the outlaw Josie Wales.
@jacksonjacob7791
@jacksonjacob7791 2 жыл бұрын
The assassination of Jesse James by the coward Robert Ford deserves to be mentioned
@charliemattingly6978
@charliemattingly6978 2 жыл бұрын
I'd say Open Range is the best Western made in the past 20 years.
@Punk_CiTy
@Punk_CiTy 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised by the lack of a mention of Fallout: New Vegas. The western aspect is one of the main reasons I feel make people love it so much. Not to mention the music and the radio.
@HoldinContempt
@HoldinContempt 2 жыл бұрын
Bethesda intentionally sabotaged obsidian studios with an impossibly short development window and other acts of backstabbing and to this day its like pulling teeth to get that disgusting manlet Todd Howard to even acknowledge that New Vegas even exists because its the most recognizable and popular fallout game of the modern era and it wasnt made by him or Bethesda.
@MountainsBreath
@MountainsBreath 2 жыл бұрын
I don't even like "gaming" but that game is special
@zuttoaragi8349
@zuttoaragi8349 2 жыл бұрын
He didn't mention probably because he hates it. He thinks it's a shitty game.
@Punk_CiTy
@Punk_CiTy 2 жыл бұрын
@@zuttoaragi8349 Really? I didn't know that. I'm only a little surprised.
@zuttoaragi8349
@zuttoaragi8349 2 жыл бұрын
@@Punk_CiTy Yeah. He thinks New Vegas sucks. He says so in his review of FONV and reaffirms that opinion in his review of FO4.
@collinmclaren6608
@collinmclaren6608 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I feel like the gothic western genre is a vastly untapped resource in modern media. I'm currently started reading The Dark Tower series, and the concept just sounds so cool. Even as a musical art form, the Dark Country series of compilation albums really help sell the dark western idea. And don't even get me started on Evil West, I'm having high hopes for that game.
@trequor
@trequor 2 жыл бұрын
The concept was great, but I could not stand the book. Stephen King just can't write a compelling character to save his life.
@666kingdrummer
@666kingdrummer 2 жыл бұрын
@@trequor or he just tries too hard to be edgy version of H.P. Lovecraft. The guy is seriously overrated.
@666kingdrummer
@666kingdrummer 2 жыл бұрын
The Dark Western idea may actually be more realistic than what was portrayed on screen. Sure, theres not going to be monsters and demons all over the place, but Hollywood had a bad habit of making the West look like a utopia time, when in reality it was one the hardest times in American history.
@DefinitelyNotAMachineCultist
@DefinitelyNotAMachineCultist 2 жыл бұрын
​@@trequor What are your biggest pain points with King's characters? I only remember reading _The Stand_ and that one werewolf story and I may be remembering the movie adaptations more than the written work at this point, but I recall them being pretty decent character-wise. Then again those may have been the exception to the rule or the nostalgia is blinding me. I'm legit curious. Always on the lookout for writing tips.
@DefinitelyNotAMachineCultist
@DefinitelyNotAMachineCultist 2 жыл бұрын
Southern Gothic, Gothic Westerns, Lovecraftian elements... Hmmm...
@clayscustoms2050
@clayscustoms2050 2 жыл бұрын
I will readily admit, I would LOVE to get a competent Jonah Hex movie off the ground, that seems a mighty good idea
@fishin4bass2002
@fishin4bass2002 2 жыл бұрын
I love westerns, you have the main character having to deal with so many different conflicts, from nature, to humans to even themselves.
@willharper1326
@willharper1326 2 жыл бұрын
The only things I’ve watched in the last 6 months are The Outlaw Josey Wales, Tombstone, and Deadwood. My grandfather who was a antique gun collector, distilled a love for westerns in me as a kid. They are especially refreshing in these times.
@jfangm
@jfangm Жыл бұрын
"Quigley Down Under" is one of the best westerns ever put to film.
@dylanlewis5113
@dylanlewis5113 2 жыл бұрын
As a kid, I loved Westerns. As an adult, I still do. I can't remember what my first Western was, but I can remember my first Eastwood Western. "The Outlaw Josey Wales". I saw it when I was 5 and 17 years later, it still remains one of my favorites.
@madaxe606
@madaxe606 2 жыл бұрын
I love westerns. They have the unique quality of combining a world that is fairly recognizable to a modern audience (firearms, towns, trains, etc), but still different enough to feel distant and exotic, where things like a haunted mines, stone-age tribal warriors or conquistador's buried gold don't seem out of place. Unfortunately, Hollywood's current fetish for mUh dIEveRSiTy requires that any story set in the aggressively colonial Old West be saddled with the obligatory albatross of endless grovelling and self-flagellation about the European/Indignenous conflict.
@moonlightbliss4791
@moonlightbliss4791 2 жыл бұрын
endless grovelling and self-flagellation this part right here. The wyt man bad bullshit is getting to be too much. Even those I know are starting to call it out.
@imsteph21
@imsteph21 2 жыл бұрын
Make Westerns Great Again! 🤠
@Yarblocosifilitico
@Yarblocosifilitico 2 жыл бұрын
I'll just say: I was introduced to comics (and literature in general) through Lucky Luke, and my favorite film growing up was The Magnificent 7. Westerns capture a mixture between wilderness and civilization that is very relatable to any human being at any point in history, since we all have that tension within us in the form of instincts vs rationality. Obviously it can be adressed through other genres/settings, but the Wild West setting fits like a glove.
@bluecoin3771
@bluecoin3771 2 жыл бұрын
I have followed this channel loyally since 2015. No one has made me prouder to be an American 🇺🇸 than you Mr. Fist. God fucking speed!
@chazzmccloud36
@chazzmccloud36 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you stuck ol Chuck Connors into the beginning. I absolutely love The Rifleman. Lucas McCain is the most badass single dad ever!
@warsharkproductions6550
@warsharkproductions6550 2 жыл бұрын
Let's face it, Rango was honestly the best tribute to westerns of the twentieth century.
@grinningtiki220
@grinningtiki220 2 жыл бұрын
I worked on Lone Ranger and I thought it was in really good hands. Apparently the studio made a bunch of changes in the edit room. Nail course I did not enjoy working on the film it was probably the worst year of my entire life. But that's another story.
@MJM804
@MJM804 2 жыл бұрын
Rango is a great western!
@carlosaugustodinizgarcia3526
@carlosaugustodinizgarcia3526 2 жыл бұрын
Westerns were really big worldwide in the past. Look at the italian Tex comics,still ongoing since '48 and have a good fanbase worldwide ,even here in Brazil. In Japan not only Kurosawa films but some classic manga like Hokuto no Ken were inspired by old westerns .
@docproc144
@docproc144 2 жыл бұрын
Big fan of the western genre here. Grew up watching John Wayne and Clint Eastwood movies with my grandfather whenever I’d visit him. I also remember my Dad watching Tombstone (one of my favorite movies ever) with me for the first time. Then when they came out, games like Red Dead 1 and 2 allowed me to live out my Wild West fantasies in spectacular fashion. Westerns desperately need a revival. They need to make a comeback in our entertainment industry. They’re as important to American culture as the Samurai are to Japanese culture, Knights to European culture, or Vikings to Norse culture. A more recent Western film that I thoroughly enjoyed, much to my surprise, was The Magnificent Seven with Denzel Washington and Chris Pratt. Great movie.
@abrahemsamander3967
@abrahemsamander3967 2 жыл бұрын
I think a traditional white hat do gooder could work in modern times honestly. Have the hero be well mannered, meanwhile his surroundings are dirty, violent, and cynical. I always liked the idea of adapting Cheyenne(Clint walker.) where he’s still the same well natured gentle giant. Meanwhile the west is filled with corrupt lawmen, bandits, drunkards, and the like. Everyone’s swearing up a storm, and ideas of chivalry and heroism are laughed at(much like today.) but it’s up to Cheyenne’s morals, kindness, and his quick hand at the draw, to right the wrongs of the world. Thus symbolizing a return to old fashioned heroism to a cynical age.
@GutsofEclipse
@GutsofEclipse 2 жыл бұрын
In terms of villains, any revival of old fashion good-vs-evil stories needs to deconstruct the deconstruction by going after the radical subjectivism that Marxists like to hide behind. Between the people who call for moral standards and the people who say that all moral standards are just a matter of your subjective perspective, who is it that's actually being childish at best and malicious at worst? Unfortunately, given how people have been taught to interpret things, they'll need to be beaten over the head with the fact that the villains are leftists; if you just have some cult-like church leader letting thieves run the town because "let he who is without sin cast the first stone", anyone who doesn't already see the need for universal ethics will just see another instance of "Christianity bad". We need the rise of the atheist antagonist who has a will-to-power where his moral compass should be and is pursuing spiritual fulfillment from hedonism, akin to what you see with SJWs.
@abrahemsamander3967
@abrahemsamander3967 2 жыл бұрын
Did someone delete a reply? Can’t see anything.
@rinck17
@rinck17 2 жыл бұрын
I'd pay to see that.
@abrahemsamander3967
@abrahemsamander3967 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@HenshinFanatic
@HenshinFanatic 2 жыл бұрын
I'd pay to see that, 4 times!
@adamriley9241
@adamriley9241 2 жыл бұрын
Ballad of Buster Scruggs is a Coen Brothers movie I recommend. Not the classic stern faced western like Clint but a western I stand by.
@worldcomicsreview354
@worldcomicsreview354 2 жыл бұрын
"Spaggetti westerns almost never had native Americans" Gee, couldn't they find any olive-skinned, black-haired people in Italy?
@chrissherman659
@chrissherman659 2 жыл бұрын
Been working on a Western rpg for a while and this attitude gives me a hell of a lot of encouragement, Thanks!
@DefinitelyNotAMachineCultist
@DefinitelyNotAMachineCultist 2 жыл бұрын
Tabletop or vidya?
@squelchotron8259
@squelchotron8259 Жыл бұрын
Tell us more, my man. I do hope it is in your inclination to do so.
@theminister1154
@theminister1154 Жыл бұрын
Advertise it on the Fellowship channels & related with some superchats when yer done. Also there's one from the 80s you might wanna pick clean for ideas. Forget the name. Wasn't bad. I would add supernatural either as part of the base game or right away after. Gives you a lot more options for classes & opponents, that's the main reason to do so even though the weird west genre is cool on it's own.
@fractaljack210
@fractaljack210 2 жыл бұрын
My English grandfather who fought in WW1 was obsessed with the old west and Wild Bill Hickok in particular. He gave me me a love for Westerns that thrives to this day.
@mikavirtanen7029
@mikavirtanen7029 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, my Finnish grandfather loved to watch every western that came from television, but for some reason it was the Virginian tv-series that was his favorite.. In the 80's i managed get some episodes on tape, and when he was visiting you couldn't get him up from the sofa before he had his fix of The Virginian.
@rosezingleman5007
@rosezingleman5007 2 жыл бұрын
I lived in WashDC for decades. Rita Kemply’s review of “Pale Rider” caused me to stop reading the WaPo pretty much forever. Edit: Thanks for this Rage. I think the Western is *our story* the American mythology that’s actually true. Heck, I even love “Paint Your Wagon.” You haven’t lived until you’ve seen and heard Eastwood and Lee Marvin both singing in a western about a woman living with two husbands in a mining camp. And Eastwood is the square in this story.
@TheRealNormanBates
@TheRealNormanBates 2 жыл бұрын
you should check out the Cinema Snob's review. He kind of feels the same way.
@ottomackensen
@ottomackensen 2 жыл бұрын
I love what Clint's character does with his revolver in that movie.
@Pers0n97
@Pers0n97 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheRealNormanBates I mean, bob has devolved almost as much as jim sterling in recent years, I don't think anyone need more proof that his opinion is trash at this point.
@TheRealNormanBates
@TheRealNormanBates 2 жыл бұрын
@@Pers0n97 do you mean Brad (Jones)?
@alucard624
@alucard624 2 жыл бұрын
Been watching a lot of old school Gunsmoke reruns and honestly that's a damn good show with stories that are still relevant even more so today than ever. Love INSP for that.
@KratostheThird
@KratostheThird Жыл бұрын
James Arness was big (6’7”), strong, relatable and noble. All things this modern generation of “soy” Millennials are sorely lacking.
@imaxinsertnounherex
@imaxinsertnounherex 2 жыл бұрын
I love western movies. Watch them all the time these days.
@citizenronin
@citizenronin 2 жыл бұрын
"Well you may not know this, but there's things that gnaw on a man worse than dying." - Open Range. That's the kind of manly life lesson you won't get in any other genre....God I love Westerns.
@curtiskretzer8898
@curtiskretzer8898 2 жыл бұрын
"Tig can't go.He gotta stay here.He got the heart!Not the legs!" Last western that I saw on big screen! "You must be the 1 that killed our friends!"(I get chills recollecting the start of the big gun fight,him telling Boss who he was gonna target after only saying,in front of any1"We'll have our drinks now!" 🤠👌
@shanehudson3995
@shanehudson3995 2 жыл бұрын
Bit surprised that Silverado didn't get a mention. Fantastic film.
@curtiskretzer8898
@curtiskretzer8898 2 жыл бұрын
Bad luck!You're gonna have to deal me out!(own it on DVD)
@teslafreak
@teslafreak 2 жыл бұрын
I never got into Westerns at all until a couple years ago when I started watching a bunch of them with my dad. Now I own the whole Gunsmoke series and a number of movies.
@skellorelli2515
@skellorelli2515 2 жыл бұрын
The Long Riders is another good one. The last robbery and get away scene is spectacular.
@ShaolinLambKiller
@ShaolinLambKiller 2 жыл бұрын
Wife out of the blue wanted to start watching westerns a month ago. And I can't be more thrilled. She had no interest and the only clint Eastwood movie she had ever seen was gran torino. So every weekend I have been bringing out all my old dvds and she just been eating them up. This adds a few to my list to pick up.
@EdwardLewisIV
@EdwardLewisIV 2 жыл бұрын
I was actually talking to a friend last week about the complete lack of Westerns in comics, movies and literature. 1883 was actually really good for the handful of people who have Paramount+.
@Saintbow
@Saintbow 2 жыл бұрын
You have to admit, for it's outlandish performance, "They call me Trinity" was a fun movie to watch. The one movie that seems to always be left out of the discussion when someone is talking about Westerns is Quigley Down Under. I would rate it in the top 10 of the greatest Westerns of all time. From the change of scenery, the treatment of the natives, down to how under developed the culture and technology was of the time for the location versus what we always saw in a modern Western. We were used to seeing westerns where the modern cartridge was being used, but in Quigley Down Under, they were still using muskets and flintlock pistols. Even in The Good-bad-ugly movie, you see Angel Eyes loading cartridge rounds into his weapon, but if you look closely, the weapon is a cap & ball weapon. When Quigley went to the weapon smith to get more ammo, he even had to explain to the weapon smith that he could use a older French rifle ammo to substitute for parts needed. It was little details like this, that separated it from a subpar western to a great western. You can even see it in Quigley's saddle, an American Western style saddle, versus the Australian Saddles and English Saddles used by everyone else. (English saddles don't have a horn on them).
@kathyflorcruz552
@kathyflorcruz552 2 жыл бұрын
LOVE it!!👍👍👍👍 To see Eli shoot "Fuck your freedom" Arnold WOULD be a GREAT Western. A REAL morale booster during these dark days.
@tommyfishhouse8050
@tommyfishhouse8050 2 жыл бұрын
Trust me Razor. You don't want the western making a comeback. It'll suffer the same fate as Star Wars, Star Trek, and what is currently happening to superheroes. It'll either be an anti-american screed, or a poorly put together joke. Can you imagine what handwringing a new western would have over how 'oppressed' women were by their cattle rancher husbands, what 'ignorant religious bigots' people used to be, or how black people and mexicans were treated, or how america is 'stolen land' from the native americans? Not to mention with the straight up historical revisionism of things like Doctor Who or Vikings which showed the past as a multiethnic multicultural gender diverse place that simply did not exist, for the sake of propaganda. Hollywood will never make a big budget western again, and I don't want them to for the same reason I don't want them to make a Superman movie again. They'll just be bad.
@AB0BA_69
@AB0BA_69 2 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine Blazing Saddles getting made in current year? LMAO!
@evanthompson1517
@evanthompson1517 2 жыл бұрын
The absolute worst fate for any story is for Hollywood to make a movie out of it.
@tommyfishhouse8050
@tommyfishhouse8050 2 жыл бұрын
@@evanthompson1517 Sadly. There really is no alternative to Hollywood that both reflects your personal beliefs, and isn't low budget garbage. At least when it comes to production value. If you want those epic shots of the wilderness, decent special effects, and competent actors? You really have no choice but to either settle for movies directed by shitty human beings, for shitty human beings. Or just stop watching any movie or TV altogether.
@worldcomicsreview354
@worldcomicsreview354 2 жыл бұрын
@@tommyfishhouse8050 Or only watch old ones.
@evanthompson1517
@evanthompson1517 2 жыл бұрын
@@tommyfishhouse8050 The agitprop is the least of it to be honest. Political messaging in movies has existed since moviemaking began. It's the quality of the writing that is so abysmal. It's like having a Michelin star restaurant and staffing it with McDonald's fry cooks.
@CodyMacArthurFett
@CodyMacArthurFett 2 жыл бұрын
The last time I saw a good Western was when I watched the anime version of "Golden Kamuy" (or at least the first season, my schedule keeps slipping for seeing what comes after) and seeing the public reception to it was a bit of a heartbreaker. It was a nakedly Western show, from the gruff-faced war veteran panning for gold on the frontier to the factional interplay between natives, outlaws, and an encroaching federal government. Yet, despite being so obviously a Western, the difference in setting from the American West to Hokkaido was apparently enough to make it so that no one was able to recognize it as a Western. The Western has been gone for so long that no one remembers what a Western even is anymore. Ironically, this could be one of the best things to ever happen to the genre, because it means that the "cliché" tale of the white hat sheriff riding in to save the day from the black hat bandit can come back and few will use that stale word to describe it. Add in Razor's point here about the society, and we're primed for a revival of epic proportions.
@en6853
@en6853 2 жыл бұрын
You probably won’t see this razor, but I’m so happy you’ve covered this. I’m in my 30’s and westerns are some of my absolute favorite films. Once upon a time in the west is my all time. Fucking love that film
@DC8091
@DC8091 2 жыл бұрын
Hell & Yeah 🤠 Been waitin for Rageaholic Westerns!!! “Hop on and open fire!” perfectly said sir!
@Wastelandman7000
@Wastelandman7000 2 жыл бұрын
I'd add that a resurgence of the western doesn't even count its spin off generas such as Mountain Man, Longhunter, and Weird West properties. Like the Post Apocalyptic genera, there's a multitude of interesting stories you can tell.
@mikavirtanen7029
@mikavirtanen7029 2 жыл бұрын
It's a disgrace that Weird West classic The Adventures of Brisco County Jr. only got one season. Casualty of Fox Network of course.
@jkincaid582
@jkincaid582 2 жыл бұрын
I fully agree, with the sensibilities a lot of the public has for sci fi and pulpy super hero stuff, I think cross-genre westerns would really find an audience nowadays.
@miner69er75
@miner69er75 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up watching Westerns, old ones & new ones, colour & black & white ones, good ones & bad ones, all on TV, & all repeats. And I loved every single one. As a Brit, seeing that wide open space, the freedom, the lack of government control, & the guns. Oh the guns. Every country has its bad points & it's good points in history. For me, the main US good point, is it's Western frontier heritage. I'd love to see the genre come back. When men were men, & horses were scared.
@ImInLoveWithBulla
@ImInLoveWithBulla 2 жыл бұрын
The moment you mentioned aging action stars… damn. Stallone would be perfect for a grizzled old gunman.
@lotuscorpse
@lotuscorpse Жыл бұрын
He is in the Expendables by all accounts, it's just more of a mercenary hit squad than western.
@raphaeldias5502
@raphaeldias5502 2 жыл бұрын
Razor always hit the nail with his takes. The most accurate aim of the Western side of the KZfaq.
@MrDink-po9hr
@MrDink-po9hr 2 жыл бұрын
Of course Ebert gave Pale Rider some love at a time when Westerns were unfashionable, he was always one of the few film critics that I thought was a fairly likeable guy regardless of whether I always agreed with him or not.
@jmullner76
@jmullner76 2 жыл бұрын
And Siskel was always kind of a drip.
@scockery
@scockery 2 жыл бұрын
@@jmullner76 Still not as bad as uber-prick Leonard Maltin.
@cargosquid
@cargosquid 2 жыл бұрын
@@jmullner76 kind of? LOL! He was such a drip, they called a plumber to fix him.
@Kirkmaximus
@Kirkmaximus 2 жыл бұрын
@@cargosquid The word "drip" has gone full circle. Because zoomers (young adults) think wearing cool clothes makes you "drip" with fashion. But yes, Siskel always had bad taste.
@jmullner76
@jmullner76 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kirkmaximus It does? I was using it as a bad thing. Siskel always didn't like "popular" films or had a "hipster" vibe in a way.
@happyhammer1
@happyhammer1 2 жыл бұрын
Shane has to be one of the most copied movie formulas ever. Great movie.
@bloodofmyenemies
@bloodofmyenemies 2 жыл бұрын
Eastwood wouldn't have a career in Westerns without it. Yojimbo/Fistful Of Dollars all the way up to Unforgiven draw heavily from Shane. Not that Eastwood hides the fact seeing as he basically remade Shane with Pale Rider. The man has good taste his favourite film is the revisionist western master-class The Ox‐Bow Incident (1943).
@DeanTheLaughingMann
@DeanTheLaughingMann 2 жыл бұрын
"So you're Jack Wilson." "What does that mean to you, Shane?" "I've heard about you." "What have you heard, Shane?" "I've heard that you're a lowdown Yankee liar." "Prove it."
@TheDrudgenator
@TheDrudgenator 2 жыл бұрын
“My name is Nobody” the only movie that’d make me tear up as I’d watch it with my father . Got my 4K copy and I love it
@heroesytumbas
@heroesytumbas 2 жыл бұрын
Have you watched Open range? Is Shane with roles reversed. Pretty good.
@happyhammer1
@happyhammer1 2 жыл бұрын
@@heroesytumbas yeah, I enjoyed it
@jackall-trades6149
@jackall-trades6149 Жыл бұрын
In games at least, the stage is already set. We have Breath of the Wild, Sonic Frontiers, even the latest Pokemon games revel in wide open spaces. Add in a few frontier towns and an in-depth mission log, maybe some hunts, and you're printing money. Anyone else remember the clamor for Stranger's Wrath?
@1977Yakko
@1977Yakko 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of great mentions in this but one of my favorites is one with Tom Selleck and Alan Rickman called Quigley Down Under. Ridiculously underrated IMO.
@cmd31220
@cmd31220 2 жыл бұрын
I've noticed that since the death of the genre in the 80s, most westerns are disguised as other genres in order to pass by the critics. Movies like Priest (fight me, it's a good movie) and the original Star Wars were westerns cloaked as sci-fi and I'd argue a lot of mafia movies, especially those surrounding the good guys taking on the mob, are westerns wearing pinstripes.
@Wastelandman7000
@Wastelandman7000 2 жыл бұрын
I'd add most of the post apocalyptic genera of the Road Warrior type are simply post civilization westerns.
@cmd31220
@cmd31220 2 жыл бұрын
@@Wastelandman7000 bro exactly. I forgot to even mention that because they're so synonymous. The Mad Max movies (at least the first 3) and Book of Eli SCREAM spaghetti western
@kielbasamage
@kielbasamage 2 жыл бұрын
I'm still infatuated by the illustrated opening crawl of Priest, especially the legions of WW1 styled soldiers with flamethrowers and tanks, throwing themselves into a flood of fanged monstrosities krieger-style.
@vidard9863
@vidard9863 2 жыл бұрын
​@@kielbasamage congratulations you just put that movie on my radar!
@niggardlylad2008
@niggardlylad2008 2 жыл бұрын
@@Wastelandman7000 yeah, "book of Eli" with denzel washington comes to mind
@bloodofmyenemies
@bloodofmyenemies 2 жыл бұрын
Lonesome Dove (1989) really kicked off the 90s westerns and basically covers all the same themes (and more) as Unforgiven. Based on a Pulitzer prize winning novel no less by Larry McMurtry. There were thousands of westerns made in the 40s and 50s and there's an insane amount of gold to be found even just there. Last year I watched about 50 Roy Rogers (King Of The Cowboys and box office king of the 1950s) movies and to be honest I think western newcomers should go back and watch as many older westerns as possible. Pure comfort cinema. Shane and The Gunfighter destroy any modern attempt at a revisionist western and Peckinpah's masterwork The Wild Bunch puts any spaghetti western to shame. These are big name films I'm mentioning here but they're only just starter points. Explore the genre as much as possible. Even this videos mention of John Wayne's death in the 70s overlooks the classics he starred in that decade.. Masterpieces like Big Jake, The Cowboys, The Train Robbers and The Shootist. They dont make classic westerns anymore and I doubt they could if they tried. Luckily for us there's a lifetime of amazing westerns already made for us to watch and cherish.
@mrcliff3709
@mrcliff3709 2 жыл бұрын
I love the Wild Bunch
@bloodofmyenemies
@bloodofmyenemies 2 жыл бұрын
@Raylan Givens Agreed. It's not my favourite performance of his but he is great in it and the Oscars care more about rewarding legacy and politics over anything else. In any case it's a more worthy performance than this Oscar winning role in True Grit.
@bloodofmyenemies
@bloodofmyenemies 2 жыл бұрын
@Raylan Givens Agreed on every point! Wayne was good in True Grit and it was obviously a very fun role for him. The Searchers is an amazing performance and one that gets better with every viewing. The Quiet Man in particular I always recommend to people critical of John Wayne being a one note actor. He was always great in comedic films but who knew he can excell as a romantic lead? What a film. Liberty Valance is also a different but truly great performance. I might actually put Red River alongside it as a Oscar snub for Wayne. On a more personal level I adore Hondo and Wayne's performance.
@666kingdrummer
@666kingdrummer 2 жыл бұрын
I fell in love with Westerns about 10 years ago thanks to MeTV and INSP playing Westerns almost 24 hours a day it seems. Like a lot of people, Gunsmoke and Bonanza were my gateway drug into the genre, but since then its expanded to The Rifleman, Wagon Train, Wanted: Dead or Alive, Cheyanne, Have Gun - Will Travel, Tales of Wells Fargo and Rawhide. Its gotten to the point now where it feels like its the only damn thing even worth watching on TV anymore. A genre where Men were Men, Women were Women, people accepted guns, Family was Important, America was still America, and morality wasn't Grey. What more do you want?
@KratostheThird
@KratostheThird Жыл бұрын
I’ve been watching Richard Boone in Have Gun Will Travel. He was just brilliant.
@666kingdrummer
@666kingdrummer Жыл бұрын
​​@@KratostheThirdI love Paladin as a character. The way he quotes classic literature and poetry to justify his actions, made him so unique. He wasn't just another gun for hire type character, he had a conscious and tried to make things right. There were many episodes where he never had to fire a shot, and times where Paladin turned on his employer if he found out something wasn't right or moral. If you haven't seen it yet, I highly recommend the episode 'Invasion', it deals with an Irish Revolutionary thats planning to attack the British controlled Dominion of Canada, and my favorite episode.
@KratostheThird
@KratostheThird Жыл бұрын
@@666kingdrummer Where is this kind of stuff today?
@CT393
@CT393 2 жыл бұрын
Old Henry was a great new western! Love the genre more than any other, I can't wait for its eventual revival.
@danwroy
@danwroy 2 жыл бұрын
Have Gun Will Travel is awesome, great opening sequence and Bernard Hermann theme. Some excellent filmmaking in the series too.
@danwroy
@danwroy 2 жыл бұрын
And YES, Yellowstone sucks
@phluphie
@phluphie 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing about "Silverado", Razor. A good, fun film, that, IIRC, revived the western in the 80s after the 70s had buried it good and dead.
@bloodofmyenemies
@bloodofmyenemies 2 жыл бұрын
Great film. All star cast but Brian Dennehy is brilliant as the sherriff.
@naughtycicero1460
@naughtycicero1460 2 жыл бұрын
This video really changed my perspective on westerns. All the comparisons to superhero movies today is all about how westerns died out due to over-saturation, but the way you put it, westerns are a genre that only makes us want them more when there is a drought of them.
@wcw2793
@wcw2793 2 жыл бұрын
What’s sad is that Eastwood wanted to do a sequel to Josey Wales, but a horse allergy prevented him from doing a Western until Pale Rider.
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