Why Women Are Quitting Their Side Hustle: Leaving LuLaRoe

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LuLaRoe, a multi-billion dollar company that skyrocketed to success by attracting an army of women to sell their colorful patterned clothes is now facing numerous lawsuits calling the company a “pyramid scheme.”
Thousands of women who have bought into the LuLaRoe legging empire in hopes of getting rich quick has since left. We talk to three women about their experiences as LuLaRoe consultants and why they decided to leave the controversial MLM behind.
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@julianbell9161 5 жыл бұрын

I’m no fashionista, but those clothes look absolutely horrendous

@DanielFlores-fo1ee 4 жыл бұрын

So the only reason I know aout this company is because my girlfriend's sister in law always wore what i called "clown clothes", so one day I asked her, hey where does your sister in law buy her clothes at, and she laughed and said "Luloroe" and here I am. Everything makes so much sense now , everything lmao.

@michellemahbelle13 4 жыл бұрын

RIGHT!! lol

@Lexightonportia 4 жыл бұрын

I was at a thrift store in Texas and saw a bunch of these clothes, brand new, in my size and got a excited until I got a closer look lol. The patterns were hideous and the fabric was super cheap quality. With the thrift stores deal the clothes would’ve ended up being $1-$2 a piece, brand new with tags, and I still didn’t want them lol.

@weltonvillegal6258 4 жыл бұрын

Like golf clothes on acid.

@victoriag2543 4 жыл бұрын

This sounds terrible but they’re like bigger woman’s clothes!

@Miss_K3k97 5 жыл бұрын

Am I the only one that thinks most of the clothes look really ugly..?

@sicaford331 5 жыл бұрын

Right! The shit people buy.

@currentresident3775 5 жыл бұрын

Kekistani Goddess I agree. But, I think some of the print/patterns aren't so bad, it's just the color combinations are really ugly.

@orls9068 5 жыл бұрын

It's like scrap on aliexpress

@sionan7937 5 жыл бұрын

Most of the clothes are hideous but they have a few really cute pieces. They do that on purpose so people would spend spend spend spend hoping to get a "unicorn" (rare, cute piece). Consultants can't pick out what clothes they get so they spend thousands of dollars on a box of leggings and just hope that it had a "unicorn" that they could sell for massive amounts of money and earn it back. It's like real life loot boxes

@Miss_K3k97 5 жыл бұрын

Shannon Griffin Yeah, real life loot boxes full of mold and holes 🙄

@Hollyberrystreats 2 жыл бұрын

There was an adult film director on another LuLuRo video who said they used the leggings for costumes because they were so easy to rip!

@hanadr 2 жыл бұрын

I am going to hell for cackling so hard at this.

@fbueller 2 жыл бұрын

LOL!!!

@mdezzco 2 жыл бұрын

I laughed so loudly that I scared my cats and one of them knocked over a soda can.

@teelesynclair5902 2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@janicag 2 жыл бұрын

At least there is some use for them... 😏😛😂

@Benjaminleo815 2 жыл бұрын

World's okayest mom looks like a great mom and friend. Good for her having courage to get out of this cult!

@misslesterb 2 жыл бұрын

Roberta seems like a very good human, glad she got out.

@ykMMD 2 жыл бұрын

A good friend??? How many of her friends did she screw over to make all that money? She's just very good at projecting the image of a good and caring friend. None of it is true.

@bricy6437 2 жыл бұрын

She has her own KZfaq channel and podcast : Roberta Blevins. She’s an asset to the anti-MLM movement!

@WinterReflections 2 жыл бұрын

@@ykMMD We forgive corporate monsters who've done so much worse, she's learned and deserves forgiveness and empathy. I also didn't see an indication she made much money in particular. And now she's trying to get other victims OUT.

@millsykooksy4863 Жыл бұрын

I’m listening to her on Leah’s Scientology podcast right now

@sarahb4401 5 жыл бұрын

I feel like this says more about the isolation of modern motherhood than anything else

@lw.1234 5 жыл бұрын

TRUTH

@sevendeadlychins 5 жыл бұрын

Sarah Hdgsklansjd Modern women expect motherhood to be entertaining instead of just hard and fulfilling work. These women are overgrown toddlers.

@karenyoung8068 5 жыл бұрын

Motherhood has not always been isolation. It's only been in the least 30 years that empty houses have created the isolated environment. Mother of 3, I never realized the stark difference between my mother's generation of stay at home moms and me working part-time. All the houses were empty in my neighborhood and I was stuck at home alone with 3 children with social media advertising everyone's "best life." Back in the 70's /80s moms would have the summer to hang out with other moms who's kids are running the neighborhood or go hang out at the pool. Where now 40% of moms are full time employed, 20% part-time employed, and 40% stay at home. So those households that are at home, are mixed into neighborhoods that hopefully have other stay at homes but if they have no one in the area, that's isolation. It's a very cold, gotta be Pinterest perfect, kids prefect environment, making 100k+ culture or you fail. If you aren't a perfect mom (which no one is!) Then social media only adds fuel to the fire and isolates EVEN MORE.

@denadear 5 жыл бұрын

You are really right about that.

@denadear 5 жыл бұрын

@@sevendeadlychins -BS

@LetsSmash007 5 жыл бұрын

When you give a company money for a job, you are a customer not an employee.

@elizajane691 5 жыл бұрын

LetsSmash007 so many people fall for this ....

@staceycole5629 5 жыл бұрын

While I agree with this message, businesses also have to purchase goods to sell to make money. With that said, this is a pyramid scheme in order to make real money instead of buying into a franchise.

@LetsSmash007 5 жыл бұрын

Stacey Cole thank you captain obvious. The only business here is Lulaxxx, by the motion of paying bonuses, the person is not a business as well. The person is an employee. Do we know any person joining a MLM then forming their own LLC? This would be two distinct businesses. See when Lulaxxx changes policy, you are the employee. If Lulaxxx changed policy causing a breach of contract between themselves and another businesses then litigation commences. So much more to explain here. Just a short bit.

@bonniehowell4259 5 жыл бұрын

I wish all the #Bossbabes that constantly post on FB and IG about owning their own "business" would realize this.

@hanne9170 5 жыл бұрын

Bonnie Howell thank you. I fucking HATE these stupid terms...girl boss, boss babe, lady boss bullshit. It makes my skin crawl when I see/hear these basic terms

@barbmccafferty4533 2 жыл бұрын

I felt so bad when they hammered the "for sale" sign and she started crying. I hope she and her family recovered and are living happy.

@shelbymcphearson5472 2 жыл бұрын

Seriously tho... that hurt my heart 💔

@jamesellis6035 2 жыл бұрын

Always remember where you come from and always live within your means

@millsykooksy4863 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah but what the hell did she do with her money

@annapatricia3793 2 жыл бұрын

@@millsykooksy4863 LuLaRoe kept pestering her to spend her money and share it on social media. Like cars, clothes, flights, jewelry, etc. From her doing that they benefit from the potential victims to crave for the luxury life. And unfortunately, she listened not knowing it would send her to losing her house.

@Pretermit_Sound 2 жыл бұрын

@@millsykooksy4863 did you not watch the video? It explains everything, in detail, about where all the money went. Where it had to go. Perhaps these women were naive, and probably didn’t use very good judgment, but so what. Nobody deserves to be treated like they were/are. The company’s owners are absolutely disgusting people, to be able to use someone’s new-found circle of friends, and happiness in order to manipulate them into doing the company’s bidding. Hopefully these women were able to repair their lives, and find peace after all they’ve been through.

@redcar6253 Жыл бұрын

The sad thing that isn’t talked about with MLM’s is that these women are clearly talented sales women and entrepreneurial. If only they could utilize that talent for their own small businesses or projects instead of for these thankless scam companies. It’s sad that they only saw their own potential in LulaRoe.

@HumanBeanbag 7 ай бұрын

That's a really good point!

@12dd4ds9 2 ай бұрын

They were Never smart women, basically uneducated. Get Rich Quick mentality. No critical thinking there.

@elleofhearts8471 Ай бұрын

You gotta remember tho, it takes more than good salesmanship, entrepreneurship, and an inviting personality to succeed in sales. Much less as an actual business owner. A big reason why so many talented people cant get their business off the ground is due to lack of funding. That's why the (relatively) low barrier to entry (don't have to go through a bank and get a business loan or worry about creditworthiness, or collateral, dont have to worry if your network can't pool together tens or hundreds of thousands to invest etc). And thats really attractive to people who are financially vulnerable and desperate (not enough assets to get a business loan but do have enough money to spare on a relatively small business investment that yields returns as fast as you can sell inventory). Thats the reason why mlms target military spouses, immigrants, people without secondary or post secondary education, single parents, elderly, religious people etc.

@hypatia4754 5 жыл бұрын

As soon as they say, "It´s not a company, it´s a lifestyle", you know you´re in trouble.

@cuppatae834 5 жыл бұрын

Honestly!

@sesetio338 5 жыл бұрын

It's not a job. Lol

@shethewriter 5 жыл бұрын

100% true

@Shimshonn 5 жыл бұрын

Thats how Wework speak about their business. "Its not a real estate company- we are a community"

@tanyas2342 5 жыл бұрын

It's not a company, it's a cult!

@camilanieto8673 4 жыл бұрын

the real victim is my eyes because the clothes are hideous

@monicaarcher885 4 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂truth

@originalunoriginal4055 4 жыл бұрын

I think hipsters would disagree with you

@rose4490 4 жыл бұрын

I know that's right!

@Shylade 4 жыл бұрын

May they Rest In Peace. At goodwill where they are destined to sit until they end up at auction being sold by the pound.

@La-familia-de-Fazio 4 жыл бұрын

Monica Archer 😂🤣😂

@janebutterfly9450 2 жыл бұрын

Sadly my older sister was a victim of this. She had just graduated from college and was going through medical issues and she was so motivated to be a part of this! Sadly she now has over hundreds of pieces just sitting there! So sad to see how much debt she went in for it and is now still paying for it!

@mobwatch8119 2 жыл бұрын

Sorry to hear that. If someone is stuck with that many, can they be cut into bits and sold in bundles for crafting? That's quite a popular product.

@ZaydarGetsNoGirls Ай бұрын

You have to brain dead to fall for one of these scams. Your sister should’ve known better smh

@MissMiaAfroGoddess 2 жыл бұрын

Woooow those leggings were $50 a piece?! Insane! The patterns too busy, they’re giving me a migraine.

@jenniferbond7073 2 жыл бұрын

Some of those patterns are like bad acid trips! Fugly to the extreme!

@mochaest1994 2 жыл бұрын

Yessss those designs are God awful

@EarlyBirdCraft 2 жыл бұрын

So crazy, you’d get a killer pair of leggings from Nike or Under Armour for $50

@Sarablueunicorn 2 жыл бұрын

These are cheap chinese factory leggings. At a local warehouse you can get them for 3 dollars piece and if you buy loads from the factory it's like 1 dollar per piece.

@jujublue4426 3 ай бұрын

God I saw better leggings much cheaper than this, on freaking street markets!

@avuhhh 5 жыл бұрын

this scheme also highlights a growing loneliness epidemic... hearing all these women talk about how happy they became to have a “support network” of sisters that they were terrified of losing really saddens me :(

@TWHowl 5 жыл бұрын

You might want to blame modern society or tech for this, then you remember the Yellow Wallpaper and realize that women have been stuck in quarantine like states for hundreds of years. Edit: lot of likes? Apparently I wasn't the only one made to read that short story during school! Women have for a long time been kept caged like birds by societies expectations, that book always stuck w me as an example of the history of that struggle!

@queryq1330 5 жыл бұрын

That's so true. It targets people who are vulnerable.

@meinname5788 5 жыл бұрын

avuhhh you are right about loneliness. BUT These women Are like on drugs. On dopamine... Addicted From success.... It's Not soooo hard To find 1 or 2 good friends. Just Go out, Do sports. Or join a club....

@j.r.4627 5 жыл бұрын

@@TWHowl yellow wallpaper could hands down be the best s.s. ever written.

@FaridShahidinejad 5 жыл бұрын

I think it's more about greed

@mickeyjay8516 5 жыл бұрын

You aint the seller you're the buyer. These companis don't care who you sell it to cause they've already sold the product to YOU.

@BeginAgainMC 5 жыл бұрын

Mickey jay XXXACTLY!!!!

@billieteggers2661 5 жыл бұрын

It *is* a pyramid scheme then.

@Thriftyrissy 5 жыл бұрын

Bingo!

@got2surf90 5 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@TheJaybrone 5 жыл бұрын

Nailed it.

@Itried20takennames 2 жыл бұрын

Another MLM sign is that when you succeed, you are supposed to thank the company for giving you the opportunity. But if you fail, then that’s on you…you didn’t have enough drive, etc.

@pendragonfan101 2 жыл бұрын

It’s really hard for me to feel bad for the woman that was making $50k bonus checks; she profited off of the financial ruin of countless women. She had to have known that pretty much everyone else was losing money, right?

@kitchenmumma7596 2 жыл бұрын

Cognitive dissonance

@Ramboost007 Жыл бұрын

Yup. She came from corporate management too, she knew what she was doing. She just didn't pull out cleanly enough.

@lucymuia2109 Жыл бұрын

She was selling to them . That's how business works

@nakiviaallen642 Жыл бұрын

Did she truly make that though if they were requiring her to purchase "so much" of her own inventory? I may have understood this wrong but they were buying in with alot of their own funds.

@satisfied656 4 ай бұрын

I recognized the problems in the first few seconds of the video.....sad story

@Sarcastix7 5 жыл бұрын

ANY job that requires you to pay to work for them is a scam.

@LipSyncLover 5 жыл бұрын

well I mean literally starting any business requires you to invest in capital so that's not a good measure of scam/not scam. Also franchises sort of work this way. You can own a baskin robbins if you buy that franchise in that location and then they give you the inventory. The difference is they make profit on their ice cream, not on recruiting.

@derdytrout7123 5 жыл бұрын

@lil cucky, just have to be able to lick 21 flavors.

@LipSyncLover 5 жыл бұрын

@lil cucky obviously theres a difference but my point still stands. There are scenarios where you pay up front to make money and its not a pyramid scheme

@jexikavindictive 5 жыл бұрын

@lil cucky no you don't but you also aren't running the business as a cashier. The idea of these mlms is that you are running your own company with the assistance from the main branch. Which is similar to a franchise. So it isn't even a comparison to bring up cashiers. The problem with mlms like lularoe is the recruitment.

@nicholasseamans2614 5 жыл бұрын

@@LipSyncLover Not exactly what he is highlighting there...

@annie_xo 5 жыл бұрын

The thing I find so awful about MLMs is how they obviously target women looking for a sense of belonging. They don’t really sell clothes or whatever, they sell a dream to lonely women. It’s so predatory and sad.

@stephanie8699 5 жыл бұрын

is it more sad that they do it ..or more sad that these women fall for it. I fault the women ...they set back women's progress in society.

@Codi892 5 жыл бұрын

Sounds like K-Pop

@zozocecp 5 жыл бұрын

@@stephanie8699 They were lonely and taken advantage of because of it. Also, no, lol.

@mette4666 5 жыл бұрын

@thedeadmemer multi-level marketing. aka pyramid schemes

@krumble8327 5 жыл бұрын

Annie D I feel more it targets women who have children and struggle to work and look after kids. They really push the flexibility of working with an MLM and target working mums and women on maternity leave.

@The_A_Cast 2 жыл бұрын

The fact that the owner and co founder has the audacity to say that the employees and customers are “stale” should be more than enough to close the business down. Every single employee and customer should sue him just for saying that. Bring him back down to reality

@jillmeredith2012 2 жыл бұрын

He’s also very dismissive of women and sees them merely as breeders and workerbees. It’s a misogynist company that makes money off of sexism.

@MadScientist-R.N. 3 ай бұрын

Is he wrong?

@isabelrobinson3000 2 жыл бұрын

When she was crying and even asked the man putting the for sale sign in her yard to thank the realtors for working with her, I lost it. I wish this company would crash and burn already for what they did to these women.

@kimberly_helps_5847 2 жыл бұрын

Agree that it's incredibly sad to see the pain of the women in this video. I watched the Amazon Prime 4-part series, "LulaRich", last night. The women sharing their stories in the Vice story and in the Amazon documentary should be acknowledged for coming forward to tell their stories about LulaRoe, but I have to wonder if some of the tears are also due to the realization by these women that they were part of the predatory pyramid scheme by receiving huge commission checks because they recruited others to "buy in" and perpetuate the cycle. As much as the women interviewed were victims of the larger scheme created by the Stidmans, these women (as trainers, coaches and mentors) also perpetuated the scheme by recruiting others who spent their money to buy in and then essentially became the customers who funded the commissions for their up-lines. The Stidmans should definitely meet their karma sooner rather than later, however the women who reaped the benefits of large monthly commission checks need to also face a reckoning.

@CarisstaRashele 2 жыл бұрын

Sameeee

@pacwellness50 2 жыл бұрын

She didn’t spend any of her 50k monthly commission on her mortgage? Where did all her money go???

@intergalacticbnb 2 жыл бұрын

@@pacwellness50 taking others out to lunch, driving fancy cars, and living lavishly to impress others for recruitment

@jessicabell8838 2 жыл бұрын

I feel no pity for people who create their own problems. It's like banging your head on the wall and then bitching cause you got a headache

@dk-vo3tr 5 жыл бұрын

The real scam is these woman being tricked into thinking those clothes look good...

@logic7753 5 жыл бұрын

Right.

@jerriapproves 5 жыл бұрын

hahahaha exactly

@lighthouselithium 5 жыл бұрын

omg i knowwwww

@MollyFC 5 жыл бұрын

These look like the clothes I wore in 1996 when I was 5 years old

@wildwildItaly 5 жыл бұрын

Agree

@nicoleblack5249 5 жыл бұрын

Whenever you hear “Part-time work for Full-time pay” it’s a scam

@gdhse3 5 жыл бұрын

😀😀😀

@yippehanako 5 жыл бұрын

I make full time pay for part time work but I also went to school for it and didn't just give my money to someone for a shit useless product

@ghostphoto1789 5 жыл бұрын

There are direct sales jobs where you CAN make residuals and set your hours. MLMs are not that. A real job will not require constant fees from you, and don't depend on you entirely to acquire lead and hire more sales consultants.

@nicoleblack5249 5 жыл бұрын

ghostphoto the point is there aren’t many LEGITIMATE jobs that you walk right into and your making a full time pay with part time hours. EVEN in direct sales. It takes time, experience and knowledge to get to that place. The 234 people that gave this comment a thumbs up, understood what I meant. Just like “mineral” that commented above you, she’s doing it but she also went to school so that she can be in that position. There’s just no way around it. Get rich quick ideas generally don’t work. I run a HR Consulting firm. We do pretty well and I’m able to set my own hours but it took years of 60 hour work weeks before I got to this place.

@ghostphoto1789 5 жыл бұрын

@@nicoleblack5249 Yeah I agree. There are no get rich quick schemes. I'm starting my own business and even that requires a great amount of time and risk. I've lost a lot of friends to pyramid schemes. I was just saying it is possible to have things MLMs advertise like residuals and bonuses in direct sales jobs. Except the difference is you actually make money in those jobs. In sales jobs, the product is what the company is selling. In MLMs, the product is the "sales consultants" they trick into signing up, and the actual product is an afterthought.

@katrinathatsit 2 жыл бұрын

I’m just now hearing about this company-if this is what suburban mom fashion looks like, then I’m staying in the city FOREVER 😭

@c4715 2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't worry, I think it's working class fashion.

@asiagrabowska5092 2 жыл бұрын

Polyester.

@LP-iq3nr 2 жыл бұрын

@@c4715 where do they work dressed like that?

@anneblubaugh58 2 жыл бұрын

I live in the suburbs and u could not pay me to wear this crap

@anneblubaugh58 2 жыл бұрын

@@c4715 I am working class. No thanks

@Benjaminleo815 2 жыл бұрын

LOL I keep finding multiple lularoe dresses with tags, same dress in different sizes, in my local thrift shop. Now I know why.

@SacredFire777 4 жыл бұрын

These clothes make Walmart's apparel look high end.

@NadiaGirl1 4 жыл бұрын

SacredFire oh yeah I’ve gone to Walmart and in some they are nice clothes I can even wear to work at an office.

@michaelhart7282 4 жыл бұрын

SacredFire and Target is haute couture

@annastarr2043 4 жыл бұрын

That's quite an accomplishment

@xr6lad 4 жыл бұрын

Let's face it; these are the sort of people that considerthe Costco food court as a suitable date night or anniversary place.

@annastarr2043 4 жыл бұрын

@@michaelhart7282 😂

@petitionpeitition5806 5 жыл бұрын

Friends don't let friends join pyramid schemes. 💛

@EvelynRobinson22 5 жыл бұрын

this! I lost a long time friend to Younique coz no one knew until she made a big speech on FB saying she was ‘starting her own business from home’ 😬 oh dear...she then FB messaged me their recruitment spiel and I unfriended her. her ‘voice’ was nowhere in the message, it was just copy and pasted “do you want to make money at home like me?....” NOPE!!

@ilovenoodles7483 5 жыл бұрын

@@EvelynRobinson22 So Younique is another pyramid scheme huh? I never even heard of them before but yet, I just typically go to the store in person and buy things.

@EvelynRobinson22 5 жыл бұрын

they’ll deny that they are, but basically...you can only buy their makeup through ‘consultants’ and their set up is the same as most MLMs, you buy your “kit” and people order from you

@sweetox_9690 5 жыл бұрын

@@EvelynRobinson22 What do you mean *"This!"* The op was promoting friend loyalty: "Friends don't let friends join pyramid schemes." You said you immediately "unfriended" yours when she joined one. How does your story relate to the op in slightest? That is the definition of a shitty friend is it not? 🤔

@carluzahunter 5 жыл бұрын

💯

@TheVegan6 2 жыл бұрын

I never understood how these companies managed to last until I worked at a boutique thar catered towards middle-aged suburban middle & upper class women (not an mlm lol) but those women were so manipulative & mean-spirited it was absolutely insane

@Todomo 9 күн бұрын

they also loooove that terribly ugly style of clothing

@chesterwilberforce9832 2 жыл бұрын

MLM's like this skirt the law around pyramid schemes by pointing to the fact that they actually sell a product. They do. And the proceeds from those sales go to the top .01% while everyone else makes nothing. It is a mathematical impossibility for everyone to make money. There aren't enough people on the planet. My ex sister in law and her husband were deep into Amway. I remember him saying "You're stupid if you don't join Amway." He would wear t-shirts that things like "It's hard to soar like an eagle when I'm stuck down here with the turkeys." They worhiped t heir "uplines" and talked constantly of going "diamond direct". 4 years later, with thousands of unsold products in their garage, they got out. They figured they'd spent 50,000 on product and sold a fraction of that. And this was the 1980's, so you could almost put another zero after that number.

@screeningmimi 2 жыл бұрын

Chester Wilberforce You have my sincere sympathy. It's just the worst ever to be invited to 'stop over' to someone's house for dessert, and see the flip charts waiting. :- ( "I think I feel Malaria coming on, 'scuse me."

@SL-ul3yr 5 жыл бұрын

"NO, *YOU'RE* STALE" Wow. That's a grown man.

@ItsMzPhoenix 5 жыл бұрын

What does he even mean by “stale”

@brittaolson6550 5 жыл бұрын

HERO_DREAMER I believe he means, I’m rubber you’re glue whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you. Just basic kindergarten stuff

@boru1326 5 жыл бұрын

Baahahahahahahahaah...... sooooooo STALE

@carinaoliveira5850 5 жыл бұрын

This is a telltale sign of a money-hungry leader. I can't believe he would say and also on film!

@JenLovesBenz 5 жыл бұрын

@@ItsMzPhoenix you're boring

@riverrose2835 5 жыл бұрын

This is extra sad because of the insane amount of waste created by the fashion industry... all this stuff only getting worn once... so much pollution & slave labour all around.

@aristogatos1o1 5 жыл бұрын

.b/ thredup and depop

@Donnah1979 5 жыл бұрын

100 %

@asiamarill 4 жыл бұрын

@@thinkingtoomuch7680 sadly not every country has good secondhand shops like the US seems to have.in my country the shops are horrible ,no variety in sizes and they literally tried to sell a 5$ H&M Shirt for 30. Thats how awful it is where i live.i wished i could buy second hand,but not possible here

@hayleymadisonllc2180 4 жыл бұрын

I agree nothing of real quality

@dabdella1460 4 жыл бұрын

@.b / they are everywhere and I have only shopped them most of my life. Goodwill, salvation army, consignment shops ,the list is endless and supply of outfits to pick is also A house can be furnished with less money and more offerings. Go to your phone book and look up second hand shops or some may be listed after goodwill and other well known names It is so much fun You can get good at the hunt and be pleased you got several items that would be a lower price than one item at what I call a real store. Dd

@carlrosa1130 2 жыл бұрын

Watched this documentary twice. This isn't about business or fraud. It's about women needing validation in their 'common' lives and finding it/getting addicted...then, being willing to pay just about any price to maintain it.

@cristiana8079 Жыл бұрын

Validation. You nailed it 👍

@carlrosa1130 7 ай бұрын

@@theacgkid I respectfully disagree with your statement - "Validation & money make the world go round." But I do get where you're coming from. Thanks for the comment.

@vcgomeez 5 ай бұрын

Exactly.

@Linda-ji8qd 2 жыл бұрын

So sad, I have so much empathy for these ladies. Thank you for speaking up! My daughter-in- law got into this several years ago and was selling for a couple of years. At the time she was a stay at home mom. She's a wonderful wife to my son and great mom to my g-girls. I didn't want to insult her integrity, so I never said anything but I knew it was a pyramid scam from the beginning. She invested so much money in selling this over priced junk, even to the point of renting out some office space because she outgrew the half basement in the home. In the long run because of this, she lost a lot of money. 😪

@Noneyop 5 жыл бұрын

I work at a Goodwill. We get this stuff in ALL the time because no one can sell it.

@socialitenoel 5 жыл бұрын

I walked into my thrift store one day and someone must've donated their whole package. There was over one hundred pieces. I got a cute Mickey Mouse shirt for $2.99.

@BeeKool__113 5 жыл бұрын

I worked at a thrift and we would also get a ton of this stuff. Sometimes just a few items and then sometimes we would get boxes of all Lula Roe gear.

@cerberez1 5 жыл бұрын

Is Goodwill actually as bad a company as people say? I always hear that it's not really a charity and they exploit their workers...

@BeeKool__113 5 жыл бұрын

Ezra Farber Yes, it’s not as it seems. The pay isn’t the best. They were asking more and more of the associates but not paying them for what they were asking. I saw individuals with special needs not treated very respectfully or kindly.

@szee8588 5 жыл бұрын

I found out the CEO of Goodwill makes over $14 million per year. I think it's disgusting they get stuff for free and then sell baskets for $6, vases for $8. Why not sell them for $1-3, when you know the shoppers are poor.

@xiqikxx8967 4 жыл бұрын

The CEO doesn't even wear her own clothes

@manictiger 4 жыл бұрын

@Carrie Young Ah, but that just means they're dog scarfs! I'm all for optimism and being positive, but falling for this kind of crap is just stupid.

@danamcclean9784 4 жыл бұрын

Seriously the "designers" have to deliberately trying to make the clothes that heinous.

@violetweiner6883 2 жыл бұрын

This is relatively unrelated to the documentary itself, but when she said how much the Louis Vuitton charms cost I was stunned bc I used to work at the American branch of the costume jewelry company who produced those charms. They're pot metal (shitty zinc and aluminum alloy) plated in base metal, and cost less than $1 each to actually make, including what the laborers were paid

@jsanto210 2 жыл бұрын

The way people will spend out the nose for a brand name, not a product, but a brand name, is ridiculous

@vickijackson5547 2 жыл бұрын

I always thought all that clothing was hideous, and I know that $5K start up price would have ended any "consultant" idea I might have had, even if I did see clothing I really liked. I can, however, honestly see how these women got hooked on the community/family aspect of this scam. It's very sad.

@rockpapaman 5 жыл бұрын

All of this clothing looks horrid.

@decembersixx6237 5 жыл бұрын

It is the ugliest crap to be so expensive. I'll get the same looking stuff at Dollar General for $6.99!

@kingbradley8058 5 жыл бұрын

It's the suburban white mom starter pack

@OfficialCANVAS 5 жыл бұрын

@@kingbradley8058 empowered*

@lapinchechismosa 5 жыл бұрын

December Sixx LoL it’s literally not dollar store bad 😂 they do have some good stuff

@EllicottCity1 5 жыл бұрын

An eyesore to say the very least😳

@GabriellaAnn 5 жыл бұрын

I don’t even wanna think about the people in the warehouses making these items getting payed pennies to do so.

@misterwinkybluff5930 5 жыл бұрын

Children in China

@inkbold8511 5 жыл бұрын

Mister Winkybluff more like India, because one child policy has made those children become emperors in China. All from vice news.

@scruffy281 5 жыл бұрын

I know, and that's more than these ugly clothes are worth!

@philmust3651 5 жыл бұрын

Wait I saw an ad for people in poor countrys for this. This is a scam.

@carlycrays2831 5 жыл бұрын

They're probably still making more than these women.

@katyanaa 2 жыл бұрын

My mom fell into this schemes before. Selling “slimming” detox coffee. It did not work, and the few times that she forced me and my sisters to drink it, we got really bad stomach aches. She’ll sell it to her friends and say it worked, look at her daughters- we were thin because we did ballet and ate well, not because of some stupid coffee. It took my dad threatening to divorce for my mom to realize that she was sinking her savings on a pyramid scheme.

@microsoftpainenthusiast8096 2 жыл бұрын

Imagine thinking that you had friends who just used you the whole time.

@pattybaiano3297 4 жыл бұрын

It boggles my mind that this company was so successful to begin with, I have never seen uglier clothes in my life and they were made like garbage.

@grumpyotter 3 жыл бұрын

Apparently when they started, everyone was really excited because they were so soft and comfortable, and the "unusual" patterns were part of the fun of it. I didn't even realize it was a pyramid for a long time (never bought any, just saw the hype). But what the company did was really clever--in the scumbag way--they'd make very few of the popular patterns, and you couldn't just order them--you had to order a box of 50 (or whatever) and MAYBE the pattern you wanted would be among them. Just like loot boxes in video games. So that encourages the consultants to order more and more in the hope they can satisfy their customers . . . kind of brilliant, actually, if you are a company with the morals of a snake. The buzzfeed article breaks it down pretty well: www.buzzfeednews.com/article/stephaniemcneal/lularoe-millennial-women-entrepreneurship-lawsuits

@grandroyaltyinc.9507 3 жыл бұрын

Heyyy... be nicee lol

@MoronsSquad 3 жыл бұрын

You have to realize they never really „sold“ much. So the early days were just more and more sellers, which gave the impression of success... basic pyramid scheme

@cmart7164 3 жыл бұрын

grumpyotter that’s what SA face shields does. You can buy the one you want for 20 bucks are a box of like 5 and hope you get that one

@quinitawhitfield9541 3 жыл бұрын

My roommate bought some sugar scull leggings from a seller. I never understood it

@dessaysso 5 жыл бұрын

What about the stolen art?? This pyramid scheme company took people's art and prints and used them without permission. There are so many lawsuits against this shady company.

@amiralamb 5 жыл бұрын

Des Comer Wow!

@derryltrujillo1112 5 жыл бұрын

And I will enjoy it when in the end every judge rules against LLR

@taylorhunt5459 5 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately I imagine that was in some fine print. Wouldnt surprise me if this was part of the plan from the beginning, especially leverage in case someone was going to double cross them.

@bstmeg5237 5 жыл бұрын

@@taylorhunt5459 so much leverage I went to a free makeover from Mary Kay to see how much of a cult it was and they already started worth the leverage before they even higher you. They ask you to sell 300 dollars worth or 100 dollars worth at first and offer you a car within first fee months or year and they use fear tactics. Also it is a religious Christian cult if you do not admit to being religious they convertin their minds even of you claim you cannot be converted

@draconiusultamius 5 жыл бұрын

What a shitty company. Fucking people over wherever they go.

@americandevo 2 жыл бұрын

Why does the state of Washington get 4 million? Any "damages" should go to the real victims. The women who were stuck with thousands of dollars in unsellable clothing should be the ones getting their money back. Joining a class action lawsuit means a judgement will be split - a law firm gets the lions share and a former consultant will get a check for $127.43.

@brittaolson6550 2 жыл бұрын

I have watched this 4-5 times…these ladies are so funny and savvy. It’s not for lack of intellect that this happened to them. These companies are predatory.

@colie2020 2 жыл бұрын

They are predatory. They were fine when they were making money. Its all a scam

@dianecarman1979 2 жыл бұрын

50,000 dollars / month very impressive...

@Nick-yq5zv 2 жыл бұрын

Lmao you're just wrong im sorry, these are adult women who are responsible for their own choices and lack of career/critical thinking

@whatthefrenchtoast9541 2 жыл бұрын

The majority of women who are "recruited" are stay at home mothers. They want to be able to earn an income and stay home with their children. It is understandable how someone could fall for it because you would think if it was a scam, surely some entity could shut it down for being predatory. Sadly, government agencies aren't providing any protection from these "companies", and they are allowed to thrive. I've always worked outside of the home, so I can't fully understand the thought process of these ladies. I'm also not going to rip apart women who entered into something with the intention of helping their families.

@allysonwalker7591 5 жыл бұрын

Please be the start of a series. Expose senegence cosmetics, doterra essential oils, herbalife, scentsy...

@Actionnelll 5 жыл бұрын

Market America is another one of those pyramid schemes. $500 initial to join & $125 a month to stay in & sell their products. I quit 6 months into it. It's crazy how they can sell you the dream of success.

@nicolebee2382 5 жыл бұрын

Arbonne

@Sixdays_aweek 5 жыл бұрын

Classical Conversations...

@MsMassiel11 5 жыл бұрын

Definitely investigate Younique and the Huns

@cndluluv 5 жыл бұрын

I love how Thrive is attempting to distance itself from the negative connotations of tiered marketing since the Chris Watts murders

@berngirl5624 2 жыл бұрын

My mom (who was about 80 at the time) was right when she said " If everyone is selling, who is buying". She was right.

@virgie4715 2 жыл бұрын

Right! My aunt has always said this same stuff and she was right!

@_birdie 2 жыл бұрын

That’s fantastic. Actually reminds me of an episode of Schitt’s Creek. Every woman in the entire town is a rep of a “mary Kay” type of business. And someone new to the town decides to join it as well, does a whole party, tries to sell the products, and yet exactly what you said is what happens- they’re all sellers, so there aren’t any buyers Your mom was a smart lady ☺️✌️.

@Itried20takennames 2 жыл бұрын

The weird thing is that I thought these would largely die out with the Internet (they have existed for decades). Pre-Internet you didn’t have instant access to all the great videos like this one to counter the MLM propaganda. But instead…they got bigger - I guess because there is always a new generation coming up.

@Saylor666 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it’s so strange to me that’s there’s these hugeeee conventions with all the sellers…. But no events for the buyers….. that would have been a huge red flag for me

@sunnyscott4876 2 жыл бұрын

God bless your mom.

@notizzyb 2 жыл бұрын

Omg I can remember so many of my friend’s moms being “consultants” for lula roe, and I had so many lula roe leggings because of it. I had literally no idea which is the weird part.

@ItsaDaPope-a 2 жыл бұрын

Brought to you by the Church of Latter Day Saints, a much older MLM!

@Gorillafishing 2 жыл бұрын

Just fill in the blank ……all churches are MLMs

@ItsaDaPope-a 2 жыл бұрын

@@Gorillafishing Exactly

@thatonechick6744 2 жыл бұрын

Underrated Comment!!!

@Speechiegirl1 4 жыл бұрын

When the mom in yellow mentions all the friendships that were ruined due to her leaving, I just want to grab her and tell her they were never your friends!!!

@bilbobaggins4710 4 жыл бұрын

Hi 😊

@anita_skye4151 4 жыл бұрын

More like shake her!

@sonjagarcia9252 4 жыл бұрын

Same

@tomweaverling1366 4 жыл бұрын

I agree!

@julia-ex7im 4 жыл бұрын

this is exactly what a sorority is i just realized

@adippednail5925 3 жыл бұрын

People laugh but it's really disgusting how these people prey on mothers and lonely women. I had a woman approach me and my baby daughter in a cafe having dinner . She was so friendly , telling me she and her husband were new to the area , she was looking for friends. She gradually starting asking me about my work and making money independently. She so casually tried to play me. It was wild

@sydneyroth1853 3 жыл бұрын

@It's Okay what's wrong with you? people with children can still feel lonely and can experience lonliness in different ways. you're just a bitter, sad person

@lilangel6216 3 жыл бұрын

Wasn't this what @oliviacarr was talking about?

@caitie-wear2567 3 жыл бұрын

Hey don't make me call Admiral Steve. Leigha!

@skittles-circus-sys 3 жыл бұрын

uwu

@lindseyhiccups 3 жыл бұрын

4 years ago or so, a customer at my work asked me if I wanted a second job where I can work for him, he said he will write down the details, it was weird because I was looking for a second part time job at that time so I thought, wow, maybe my service or energy was so good where this guy wants me to work for him... maybe its fate? Anyway... he comes back to the counter and tries to casually explain this pyramid scheme to me and mentioned I would have to pay to start working. I was stupid at the time and didn't even know the term MLM but yeah, I told him I would be interested. When the guy left, my boss and other staff gave me a heads up about how dodgy that is and not to fall for it. I'm so glad I avoided that whole mess. The way the guy worded it was quite clever though and I can see so many others falling for that bs. I'm shocked at how many MLM's and pyramid schemes there actually are now and ones I have heard of before but didnt join the dots

@b.menendez1525 2 жыл бұрын

I just heard of this company; the ugliest rags ever. I'm surprised they sold. It is also really terrible that this company preyed on people. Lastly: if you have to pay to hang out with people, they are NOT your friends. People you connect to on FB are NOT your friends just because FB calls them that.

@hermanubis7046 2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same, who would buy these ugly af rags?

@briancrawford8751 Жыл бұрын

If you have people on your list of Facebook friends who aren't your friends in real life, just delete them. No good is going to come of collecting a list of strangers on a page and then posting about your personal life so that they can read about it.

@b.menendez1525 Жыл бұрын

Or better yet, leave FB, have a real life instead of a virtual one. It is really annoying how much time people spend on their virtual lives instead of meeting and talking to the real friends sitting next to them.

@briancrawford8751 Жыл бұрын

@@b.menendez1525 Yes, that's an even better idea. I have a FB page, but I hardly ever use it and go months or even over a year without even logging in. It's a massive waste of time, causes depression, and makes it even easier to inadvertently offend people.

@adamarlem9863 2 жыл бұрын

Leggings can be cut to make wide headbands : use larger ✂️sharp sewing shears. From the ankles, the ankles for ponytail ties, the hip-waist areas to make a turban type-- with a few hand stitch to prevent unraveling where you cut 🪡🧵

@dedepyle7046 2 жыл бұрын

Great idea

@adamarlem9863 2 жыл бұрын

@@dedepyle7046 thank you, you can make many, and if scrunched only the colors show. Post that, or really horrible colors🚀 rags for your favorite mechanic :)

@dedepyle7046 2 жыл бұрын

@@adamarlem9863 awe, you are welcome.

@jessicahirsh6973 5 жыл бұрын

The environmental impact of this must be astronomical.

@artisticsquid 5 жыл бұрын

I couldn't stop thinking about all of that just going straight to the landfill when it inevitably rips/falls apart

@gabrielleolson4756 5 жыл бұрын

THat's the fashion industry as a whole though, Forever 21, Target, H & M. It's all really bad.

@sahayeda5220 5 жыл бұрын

ikr. either end up in goodwill or the landfill.

@melainebullock 5 жыл бұрын

Makes me cry. The amount of waste that is unbiodegradable that we continue to buy from China is actually killing our planet right in front of our eyes. Burying things doesn’t make them go away

@sahayeda5220 5 жыл бұрын

@@melainebullock ikr! plus these clothes looked like shit to begin with. the injustice.

@zigzag4273 4 жыл бұрын

I'm no Pharaoh but I know a Pyramid when I see one.

@texastea5686 3 жыл бұрын

Boom! 👊

@kittykatBflat 3 жыл бұрын

Nice

@donnastandley8056 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I was part of the Amway cult.

@ItsMeSadeNYC 3 жыл бұрын

Lol!

@Xamry 3 жыл бұрын

😂 😂 This was great

@naftac555 2 жыл бұрын

If I make 75 grand in one month and someone tells me I have to spend it all...I'm like 'see ya later" I don't understand spending that much money.

@joarbeiter5760 2 жыл бұрын

The racks at goodwill are jam packed full of Lularoe.

@dedepyle7046 2 жыл бұрын

I like SOME of LulaRoe's products. Not a lot but some... I always had that feeling that something was not right with them.

@sunnyscott4876 2 жыл бұрын

I don't like them at all..I wear mostly solid colors and dress pants. But yes exactly right. I see them all the time at the Goodwill Stores where I live.

@DrMAngelo 5 жыл бұрын

"They pushed recruiting, not so much selling" So...like a pyramid scheme?

@zoelavenderlilypad7863 5 жыл бұрын

Hmmm it's almost like that's what the entire doc is about

@DrMAngelo 5 жыл бұрын

@@zoelavenderlilypad7863 hmm its almost like thats the joke

@GetaPetaHome 5 жыл бұрын

Mortomor THIS IS WHY WE GAVE THE FTC- LuLaRoe *VIOLATED THE LAW* so stop blaming their victims.

@adempc 5 жыл бұрын

@@DrMAngelo The joke is that you made a comment that was just repeating the video? How is that a joke?

@angelaindublin 5 жыл бұрын

@@DrMAngelo what a funny joke

@rachelnstephens 5 жыл бұрын

"Mama and Papa Roe" - wtffffff this is a cult.

@acameron513 5 жыл бұрын

A leggings cult...

@Vickiluv 5 жыл бұрын

OMG these women were so thirsty..this gave me the creeps. She was having a lady boner for a watch!! WTF!!

@missmericano6260 5 жыл бұрын

Its a southern thing I swear 😂

@RambunctiousRegan 5 жыл бұрын

Cringe af

@angela_somanythings5670 5 жыл бұрын

Rachel, hey girl!! Totally a cult, i have tried to warn people about this and other pyramid schemes, their Worldy ego aimed at an imagined success prevents them from hearing the truth! You should do a video on this and other pyramid schemes!! Love ya!

@crazyamericanredhead 2 жыл бұрын

These tacky, smelly, overpriced, cheaply made “leggings “ destroyed some of the most wonderful people I have ever known.

@louise-yo7kz 2 жыл бұрын

Mark is a peach. "You're stale, you're customer's stale." 🤦🏾‍♀️👀

@mcomeslast 5 жыл бұрын

Any time someone is pushing for you to live beyond your means, that’s a red flag,

@reginarobertkrystyn 5 жыл бұрын

I know a couple who did very well with another company and they were told the same thing. Live big and show it off so they did. That company turned out to be a Ponzi scheme.

@melocoton7 5 жыл бұрын

mcomeslast of course! They need people to be in debt and thus needing to keep selling and recruiting 🤷🏻‍♀️

@MzClementine 5 жыл бұрын

Huge red flag. I’m so perplexed though. The clothes are hideous...

@chainsawkitten3766 5 жыл бұрын

Well, that’s sales in general.. I sold high end new construction, and when I started, my sales manager really pushed me to get an expensive car and clothes. If the people you are trying to sell to think you are successful, they will feel more confident buying from you

@mcomeslast 5 жыл бұрын

Chainsaw Kitten I get that. All jobs expect a “look”. But putting yourself in financial straights isn’t smart and that seems to be what this lady did. Sure take some bonus money, upgrade the wardrobe. It’s a career investment. But also save some or invest. She’s worked hard and has nothing to show for it.

@water2wine1 4 жыл бұрын

When are these people going realize that they do not own their own business and that they are the customer? Really sad.

@guyb6665 4 жыл бұрын

could always be worse. At least clothes don't have a short shelf life like Herbalife!

@mildtoxicity 4 жыл бұрын

They are not even customers. They are sheep getting fleeced over and over without even realizing they are being fleeced until it's too late.

@maggiekeeler6967 4 жыл бұрын

They’re the customers with the liability of the company. So sleazy. These consultants are brainwashed.

@Shylade 4 жыл бұрын

More like these people are the product. The leggings are just a distraction prop.

@CelesteAnise 4 жыл бұрын

I had a lady selling amway approach me about it. She met me many times at starbucks and didn't mention amway she just talked about investing and other things. I even went to two of the meetings and everyone was so hyped and excited to be rich like the speaker. He made fun of people working and how rich he was and still no mention of what the supposed investment would be. I wanted to see how long this would go before anyone told me what it actually was. She had me read a book too. Finally I told her what you wrote and she said I am not a good fit for the company, I have had 2 others approach in the last 2 years with similar spills. I have a second sense for these things now. I straight up told an old couple yesterday if it was amway or anything like it I wasn't interested.

@chrisskelton 2 жыл бұрын

Gonna be honest, Dianne or whoever the owner is called is incredibly charismatic, but toxic AF. She really could have built a legit business. Such a good idea and product in the beginning, but she just loves money too much, and it didn't matter what she sold. It could have been bags of poop, for all she cared

@skateata1 Ай бұрын

I've been rewatching the documentaries and still can't believe what this company pulled off

@janospergely3805 4 жыл бұрын

the black woman was highlighted more in the intro than her actual part. would have loved to hear more from her side of the industry. she worked in the background!

@veraraspopova9620 4 жыл бұрын

Janos Pergely 1000% AGREE

@e.theresebradley5966 4 жыл бұрын

Janos Pergely Yes..

@Dustie1984 4 жыл бұрын

true, also the part when she said about how much supply they were receiving... it's mind-blowing... all that clothing was literally trash manufactured in Asia that will end up in America's trash bins and will have to be burned to get rid of, turning into toxic smoke to further damage the climate of the planet... apocalypse now.

@flowerchild777 4 жыл бұрын

I was hoping

@flowerchild777 4 жыл бұрын

@@Mashruz What a stupid close-minded, statement. Get passed color. You'll be a better person for it. WE ALL BLEED RED

@moniebugg8721 4 жыл бұрын

Sooooo basically...the Scientology of fashion?

@gillian.grace6 4 жыл бұрын

Monie Bugg hmmm fashion... is that what we’d call it? Lmao

@moniebugg8721 4 жыл бұрын

Gill B lmao! Girl you know you're right! Basically they let a whole bunch of 5 yr olds color some leggings!! And look a friend of mine has 3 pair that tore up, girl she use them for cleaning rags...a damn shame...I hope they get SOME type of money back

@gillian.grace6 4 жыл бұрын

Monie Bugg lmao they’re such a mess. But oh damn cleaning rags?!?! Lol I mean, I guess you gotta use them for something 😂😂 that’s pretty innovative hahah

@norml6874 4 жыл бұрын

Monie Bugg no this is 💯 a Mormon thing so more like warren Jeff’s cult of fashion

@moniebugg8721 4 жыл бұрын

@@norml6874 so true! Gotta get more recruits, gotta get more wives...they were *stale*...Selfishness and Greed are a hell of a drug...

@naomirae5200 2 жыл бұрын

The mom selling her house broke my heart!!!!

@annabelledee6554 2 жыл бұрын

She really mismanaged her money. I feel bad for the people under her who never saw any money

@LorenzoWyche 2 жыл бұрын

A multi level marketing company built on thousands of Karens 😂

@valenciasmith3608 5 жыл бұрын

If people unfriend you and not speak to you anymore because you're exposing the company then they weren't your REAL friends anyway.

@hayleypogue1986 5 жыл бұрын

Vee Orange no shit, it was a cult.

@Artbug 5 жыл бұрын

Vee Orange yeah Im pretty sure that was implied......

@bonniehowell4259 5 жыл бұрын

I seen a few people lose friends this way. I always get frustrated when I get an invite to a "girls night party" that's only disguised as MLM sale.

@CourtneyHammett 5 жыл бұрын

That's the really sad thing. Everyone thinks they're real friends.

@Catherine3385 5 жыл бұрын

It is that way with politics also

@KikiDiki 5 жыл бұрын

I distrust anyone who calls me "sister" just because we're both women. There's something so hollow and phony about that. Know me first.

@londons_legacy 5 жыл бұрын

Why is this sooooooooo trueee!!?

@J_Kwan 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's like guys who kiss your hand. No thankyou, forced intimacy gives me hives.

@margiedenavarre7919 5 жыл бұрын

Kaelah, you are SO right!

@lucoai153 5 жыл бұрын

@J R So the tea is that you're being fake. If you're regarding someone as your sister, when you don't actually feel like they're your sister, that's you giving validation to OP's initial statement. I would 100% not trust a single person who calls me "sister" because we happen to share a gender. I have a real sister, and some random fake stranger ain't gonna compare to that kind of bond. It may be a wild thought, but you ARE capable of being kind to someone who's a friend. They don't have to be a sister or a mother to you to remember to be kind and welcoming to them.

@ellietenenbaum3486 5 жыл бұрын

@TheAmazingLittleRose lol!

@atrain84 2 жыл бұрын

You find out who your true friends are when you see the man behind the curtain and speak up. Religions and MLM’s seem to be the most guilty. Sadly…

@kimberlyshryack Жыл бұрын

26:34 There's something so Bittersweet about seeing the mother comfort her daughter. It's like no matter how old your daughter is she will always be your baby

@09yulstube 4 жыл бұрын

What I really wanna hear is Lashae's story, she seems to be far more aware of the behind the scenes than the sellers/recruiters.

@Napalm_Candy 4 жыл бұрын

SAME! She didn't get enough time to get much of anything on camera :/

@er_cl 4 жыл бұрын

'sounds like an MLM but ok' podcast is realllly good, they interview a lady in one of them that was quite high up within lularoe, she rubbed shoulders with diane, very creepy gross stuff !

@er_cl 4 жыл бұрын

just realised that the lady i'm talking about is the one who had to sell her house !! she goes into more detail about the gastric sleeve etc

@smilesxo06 4 жыл бұрын

@@er_cl yeah theres videos of a facetime she did with a ex consultant she goes more in depth over all. Also another good video if you wanna know more about Lularoe, münecat has really good ones. She goes more into stuff that other anti-mlm KZfaqrs haven't. It's pretty long.

@er_cl 4 жыл бұрын

sʟʏ fox yess i'm subbed to münecat ! it's such a rabbit hole 😱

@maryam6211 4 жыл бұрын

This is really sad because one of the main reason these women joined this scheme is because of loneliness. These women must have seen so many warning signs and ignored them because LuLaRoe made them feel like they had a support group. They felt like quitting would mean losing their (fake) friends so they didn’t do it.

@spenx09 3 жыл бұрын

That's the worst

@Myaccount923 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly and wanting financial freedom. That’s all people want. When you really open your eyes you see the world for what it is. It’s all about greed

@ivanvillalobos7734 3 жыл бұрын

"CoffeZilla" and "Always Macro" talk about this. MLM's are master manipulators, they target the most vulnerable in our society, and give them a false sense of hope.

@Tweetypi16 3 жыл бұрын

That's how a cult works

@zoekenny3619 3 жыл бұрын

One of the women is still calling the other LulaRoe sellers 'friends' even after they disowned her because she quit the company. Fact is they were never friends. They behaved like friends because at one time you validated their own life choices, but as soon as you choose something different that challenges them and you've become a non-person. Totally cult-like.

@kgb8825 2 жыл бұрын

This breaks my heart and I feel very badly for these women that just want to belong. The sad thing is the pressure that the up lines place on the reps to get them to get people involved in this that cannot literally afford to spend their last cent on buying in. The pressure is insane and to lose a life long friend over a pair of defective leggings makes me wonder just what someone would do when the Real money is on the table. These people should be sent to prison. If you ever watch the TLC show Sister Wives, you will see that either one or all four of them are Lu La Roe reps. Talk about pressure to be on one of their down lines! This is robbery and fraud all rolled into one corrupted mess. Makes me very sick to see the real collateral damage done by these so called good people. Shame shame on all of them involved.

@andrewnguyen2173 Жыл бұрын

I'd defenitely would love a Vice documentary on Amway. They make statements such as they've been around for 60 years and they're legal since if they were illegal they wouldn't be around. I got some friends in Amway and want to undersatnd how AMway's MLM works too.

@Noirmariposa 4 жыл бұрын

Those bonus checks were returns from their own money - not actually bonuses.

@annaleigh1533 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah and the cruises and vacations they thought they won were actually paid for my them

@annaleigh1533 4 жыл бұрын

@@Balletified what I meant was, all of them essentially are just reinvesting money they make from the company, by buying inventory to keep selling... so it's all just stupid lol

@iBeFloe 4 жыл бұрын

Seriously. They’re just shifting everyone’s money around to make it look like they’re making money. But they’re not. They’re expected to pay for their inventory again. It’s just a cycle of moving their money around & the actually company receiving it back.

@kiterafrey 4 жыл бұрын

They were a combo. It is a pyrmid scheme so the people at the top, the bonus is a mix of their own money and money returned to them from those below them that made purchases, so they’re also getting other people’s refunds. It is what makes this business structure disgusting.

@dfazo6186 4 жыл бұрын

Like that always sunny episode where they used coupons 😂

@sandraxo8819 4 жыл бұрын

The most disgusting part of this whole video was the CEO trying to convince her to get a gastric sleeve surgery. I lost it when I got to that part of the video.

@legallyrequired 4 жыл бұрын

Sandra XO I agree. Her mindset reminds me a lot of what I felt when an ex of mine pushed me into developing Anorexia and to join different “proana” groups. Weightloss should not be held in such a toxic mindset.

@snapoutofit2151 4 жыл бұрын

It sounded like the CEO could have been receiving kickbacks from the surgeon!

@sandraxo8819 4 жыл бұрын

@@legallyrequired Oh wow, I'm so sorry :(

@sandraxo8819 4 жыл бұрын

@@snapoutofit2151 Oh for sure! lol

@weltonvillegal6258 4 жыл бұрын

Snap out of it - You might not be far off.

@BeckyFromTheSouth 2 жыл бұрын

It is hard to feel sorry for someone who managed to blow $10k on a dinner

@spf_500 Жыл бұрын

Ahh LulaRoe for when an adult woman wants to dress like a toddler

@cait8573 3 жыл бұрын

Golden rule: If you have to pay to work at a company, its either a scam or a MLM.

@jakemitchell7786 3 жыл бұрын

So it's a scam?

@cait8573 3 жыл бұрын

@@jakemitchell7786 yeah, MLMs are pretty much the same thing as a scam. Never, ever pay money to buy into a job. Itll all go downhill from there

@Alexandra-qc9te 3 жыл бұрын

@@cait8573 I feel so bad for people who are actually so naive that they're victimized. It's also easy to be taken advantage of when one is vulnerable in any way. The right snake on the wrong day certainly has free reign to poison us.

@anahihern1 3 жыл бұрын

I told a friend that she was in a pyramid scheme. She told me it was an MLM and the products worked for her. And I shouldn't say anything if I haven't tried the product. I will not buy a product that has a history of hair damage and baldness. I wished her luck and left the chat. Edit: Yes, it's Monat

@milkglassfairy7641 3 жыл бұрын

@@cait8573 just like modelling ‘agencies’ and the like... if you have to PAY for a job... it’s not a job. MLMs are disgustingggg.

@muffychao2373 4 жыл бұрын

I’m sorry but the clothing looks out dated and tacky.😳

@e.theresebradley5966 4 жыл бұрын

Muffy Chao What year was this,??

@shay1330 4 жыл бұрын

I think it’s more for like 40-50 year old women. My mom would like a lot of it I think like the cardigans and bags and crap.

@muffychao2373 4 жыл бұрын

E.Therese Bradley what do you mean?

@muffychao2373 4 жыл бұрын

Shaylyn Jordan mine too lol!🤣

@aw4417 4 жыл бұрын

Shaylyn Jordan I’m almost 23 and I would buy those leggings, I love colorful clothing! (But I also have never cared about fashion trends)

@LunaCosmia 2 жыл бұрын

Watching this after LuLaRich even though I’ve seen it before. Lol.

@loydamedina235 2 жыл бұрын

How is possible, you make 45,000 bonus monthly and you loose your house, what did you do with all that money?

@brooke1685 2 жыл бұрын

From what I saw from the Amazon documentary she was bad with money before she even joined lularoe. If you are bad with a little you're going to be bad with a lot.

@melanieviselli9706 5 жыл бұрын

When you have to PAY AN EMPLOYER TO BE ABLE TO WORK FOR THEM it is probably a huge scam.

@Ddub1083 5 жыл бұрын

lols... they arent employees, thats the whole point. How can we have labor working for us without having to pay them? Better yet, what if we came upw ith a way that made them pay us!!

@sarahquill7423 5 жыл бұрын

They're not an employer though, the people who work for them are independent contractors, so while it is shitty that they have to pay to work for them it's a weird grey area that isn't necessarily illegal.

@Kingsman4101 5 жыл бұрын

@@sarahquill7423 It should be

@3rdninches 5 жыл бұрын

True

@KaleidoscopeEffect 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's ridiculous... With just a little bit more job of looking into things, you can buy wholesale items on your own and sell them on ebay or something. And not because part of a nasty pyramid scam... And you can buy items just when you need them not when some else says you need them, you need to recluit no-one and you can even name your own online store :) People should stop falling for this crappy scams.

@vadr0ka 5 жыл бұрын

Pro tip: if you ever have to pay a company to work for them, it's a scam.

@erin9868 5 жыл бұрын

Pro Tip 2: if you are told exactly what you can and cannot do, as well as how and when to do it, and exactly what to sell, you are not a business owner or a #bossbabe. MLM "consultants" are not their own bosses; theyre unpaid distributors.

@user-xg3tp9rw4j 5 жыл бұрын

Pro tip 3: Always save/invest a portion of every paycheck because unexpected shit can happen. If you are making $50k per month you should have a budget and it's possible that $10k can be put into an investment portfolio.

@sandracervantes6512 5 жыл бұрын

@shawna1278 5 жыл бұрын

Erin it’s not MLM if your buy in and recruiting are emphasized over sales, the buy in is what drives commissions, AND of course, if their pay structure is illegal. Pyramids are illegal. That’s what they were. MLMs are different but you have to do your research to distinguish between them.

@ComradeGrumbles 5 жыл бұрын

@@shawna1278 There is no such thing as a good MLM. Period. Citation, this FTC-Sponsored White Paper (Which really should get more publicity): www.ftc.gov/sites/default/files/documents/public_comments/trade-regulation-rule-disclosure-requirements-and-prohibitions-concerning-business-opportunities-ftc.r511993-00008%C2%A0/00008-57281.pdf Even without papers like the above, it should be obvious what MLMs are... but somehow, people don't get it.

@talyahr3302 2 жыл бұрын

Well, supplier quality is a *vital* part of any sales business. I've learned that same lesson with many different products. Just change the product or supplier if you're really good at selling. Edit: And you should never invest $5k into a business without rigorously testing the product orders first!!

@cookiemobers5650 2 жыл бұрын

"I didn't have friends, my daughter was too young, and I WAS STUCK AT HOME!" Key phrase right there that should have sent up alarms. The fact that she in a sense, blamed her CHILD, for getting into this MLM scheme...is sad.

@colie2020 2 жыл бұрын

Thats what I thought too. Thats bs. I wonder why they dont have friends. Its probalbly because she does mlms. I dont hangout w people who do scams like this. Are they really victims?

@brakkybru 2 жыл бұрын

I agree, and these women fail to admit that they themselves were preying on every single vulnerable woman that they recruited underneath them. I’m happy for them that they wised up and got out, but they need to own up to the fact that if they recruited people, they were predatory too. Seems like they only became victims after those big bonus checks stopped coming in.

@Clyde.artwork 5 жыл бұрын

The Fyre Festival of retail

@Natalie37854 5 жыл бұрын

That ham sandwich tho

@natalieshepp641 5 жыл бұрын

Yep!!

@CrystalRicotta 5 жыл бұрын

Should be a top comment

@AshtasticAcrobat 5 жыл бұрын

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 I’m done

@marylusung8470 5 жыл бұрын

Good analogy

@salty-spitoon 5 жыл бұрын

Seller: “my inventory is stale” Ceo: “YOU’RE STALE” Lmaaooooo

@1Brookiecookie1 5 жыл бұрын

YOUR CUSTOMERS ARE STALE

@jaymewukmir2047 5 жыл бұрын

I know for him to say this and have No compassion for her👎🏻

@BeCuzImFly 5 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha I laughed so hard when he said that. No chill!!

@annaphallactic 5 жыл бұрын

That's why his wife, who has no say in how the company is run, is its public face. No one would buy their shit if he opened his mouth in public.

@xcomfortablynumb83x 5 жыл бұрын

He is a nasty old man who doesn't give one single fuck about any of his customers.

@A.S.P.A. 10 ай бұрын

I'm amazed how could they sell anything. The clothes look beyond awful and the quality, oh my 😬

@songbirdsystem1465 3 ай бұрын

It’s 2024 and I was curious. You can in fact STILL become a sell and “open your own boutique” directly from the lularoe website.

@isaacmoraesdornelasdesouza3314 4 жыл бұрын

This sounds like a cult basically.

@Pirategod23 4 жыл бұрын

More like a pyramid scheme

@iriscurry8478 4 жыл бұрын

Because it is

@sabersky1134 4 жыл бұрын

It is a cult. Many of their tactics come directly from the playbook that cults use.

@MiotaLee 4 жыл бұрын

MLMs are basically for-profit cults xD

@xr6lad 4 жыл бұрын

Izuku it is. It's Amway all over again.

@Iris_Collins 4 жыл бұрын

Someone mentions $5k to start, and I'd be laughing on my way out the door. I can invest that in my own business before throwing it away on theirs.

@comradesky5931 4 жыл бұрын

It would make sense if it was an actual franchise.

@jac1871 4 жыл бұрын

I would’ve made more money investing in enron

@joshuadooley5236 4 жыл бұрын

LOL same

@anitalassiter4266 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah! If I couldn't pick my patterns and peices no way would they get that much out of me. Also I had already spent it on their ugly leggings. Don't judge me they are buttery soft!!!

@valuecalc 4 жыл бұрын

@@anitalassiter4266 , but you need leggings that are very beautiful and that will display your beautiful shape so that you feel lighter than air.

@WelfareChrist Жыл бұрын

As of February, 2021 Lularoe has lost that Washington lawsuit to the tune of about $4.7 million. Kinda wish it was for more but at least the suit was victorious.

@jolo3118 Жыл бұрын

It's a start at least.

@LovingCandyXOxo 9 ай бұрын

My friend almost fell for an MLM. But she told me how the interview process was and how she would get paid, and I knew something was not right. I searched the company up, and ppl were saying it was a scam and it was an MLM. Had no idea what an MLM was and searched about it. Safe to say I stopped my friend from getting into it and was disgusted at how predatory MLMs operate.

@bonniehowell9206 7 ай бұрын

People recruiting downlines actually require an interview???

@ohemdoublegee 4 жыл бұрын

I have never heard of a "job" where you have to pay 5k to get the job. K.

@onelifetolive927 3 жыл бұрын

Never heard of franchise fees?

@onelifetolive927 3 жыл бұрын

And it's not a job. They are not employees.

@caesarion4596 3 жыл бұрын

@@onelifetolive927 keep licking that boot

@onelifetolive927 3 жыл бұрын

@@caesarion4596 lol what are you even talking about?

@ledflaplin2001 3 жыл бұрын

m g Lol, you must not own your own business? $5k is a drop in the bucket.

@stacyneudahl4858 5 жыл бұрын

empty consumerism run amok. So much waste & much pollution and exploitation of lonely women in American, and poor seamstresses in Bangladesh and Thailand working in hot over-crowded and unsafe buildings. Nothing good comes of this.

@itsjustkady4594 5 жыл бұрын

I could not say it better than you did. Bless you

@tiffinyrae7614 5 жыл бұрын

Stacy Neudahl - WELL SAID MY FRIEND!! How people are not aware of this is beyond my comprehension?? Thank you for posting AWARENESS TO THIS TRUTH!!!!

@sofsof7573 5 жыл бұрын

Girl yes!!

@elainaswanson4364 5 жыл бұрын

Stacy Neudahl the amount of waste produced is literally all I could think about for this video omg

@oleneaz6662 5 жыл бұрын

So true, America already has tons of clothes, every thrift store overfilled with stuff and most of them barely worn. These stuff werent ethically made, they were just about profits. We have enough of this cheap made stuff everywhere.

@genevievesmith3562 2 жыл бұрын

I have been finding new LuLaRoe dresses with tags at Goodwill. I have several dresses and skirts of that brand. I had no ideal it was a pyramid scheme.

@thethrowawaythatstayed7055 2 жыл бұрын

They probably would have been dropped off by people who couldn’t sell them (those especially ugly patterns) or from those who were pressured into buying them.

@scarebear9898 Жыл бұрын

Ehh so hard to have sympathy for Courtney. Especially after watching her in the other documentary. She was fine setting women up for debt and failure until it started affecting her bonuses. She bought not one, but two brand new cars complete with lularoe license plates for hers. She cries about superficial and material things; "my husband wasn't there so I went out and spent $4,550 on this purse", "I'm fat and I need to have this surgery to be like them." She admits she would have done anything Deanne asked her to do, which says she was a butt kisser who thought she was in the inner circle. "We were told to live a lavish lifestyle and spend money to attract others"; that's right up her alley. She also admitted she thought she was better than everyone else, and squandered even more money on a boutique. She would have still been in lularoe today recruiting if the bonuses hadn't changed. Never once has she expressed remorse for the women she victimized or the debt they endured. Everything's about her and she plays the victim.

@watercolourferns Жыл бұрын

Yeah... at least Roberta showed remorse and called her actions predatory...

@driley5004 11 ай бұрын

Totally agree. She's like oh woe is me! The purse pissed me off lol