Why You Don't Hang 1/2 in Drywall on the Ceiling

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WS WALLS

WS WALLS

2 жыл бұрын

This is one of the reasons you don't hang 1/2 in drywall without proper backing on 24in studs, some builders and subcontractors are not out for a quality product just for the $$$. If you come across this tell the builder and if it is not fixed your warranty for those areas is voided.

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@justadude8539
@justadude8539 5 ай бұрын
You should add to the title, “unless the ceiling joists are 16 inches apart”
@mrsarianna6607
@mrsarianna6607 6 ай бұрын
So this explains why all the seams in my garage are messed up.. thanks for the info. Now to find a good contractor 🤦🏾‍♂️😂
@marcemarc6516
@marcemarc6516 Жыл бұрын
24” trusses should have strapping. The trusses are going to move too much for straight Sheetrock. I’m with this guy. If you’re going to cheap out and do it cause it’s lighter. At least throw a little liquid nail to save everyone the trouble
@1Aplease
@1Aplease 3 ай бұрын
Ok. Construction adhesive on the beams? What happens if u have to replace some of the glued sheet rock?
@marcemarc6516
@marcemarc6516 2 ай бұрын
@@1Aplease you cut it out and replace it. It’s a standard practice to glue Sheetrock. You don’t see as often in remodels or smaller residential homes but in commercial buildings and larger higher end homes is very common. It allows less screws and helps with screw pops. I said liquid nail above but that’s not usually what’s used. I was making making the point that if he wasn’t going to add strapping he should at least use an adhesive to help with all the deflection from the trusses
@thenexthobby
@thenexthobby Жыл бұрын
I'd probably either use nailers so that there's an edge to secure it to, and/or go with 1/4" boards so that gravity has less to pull down to begin with.
@devonbishop5191
@devonbishop5191 8 ай бұрын
Literally just saved me from mistake I was about to make today at job I sold
@praiselifeworshiplife1ca
@praiselifeworshiplife1ca 7 ай бұрын
The more blocking the better.screws around the boarders always works.
@GADRYWALL
@GADRYWALL Жыл бұрын
Good info, that makes sense
@bbbbbbb2357
@bbbbbbb2357 7 ай бұрын
Doesn’t matter 1/2 or 5/8 if you have nailers and it’s screwed to it. This videos treats the symptom but not the peoblem
@1Aplease
@1Aplease 3 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@user-lh8uu5tl2u
@user-lh8uu5tl2u 6 ай бұрын
True that.... strapping is important tho..good stuff
@1Aplease
@1Aplease 3 ай бұрын
STRAPPING IS A BEAUTIFUL THING😊
@chriscolameco6850
@chriscolameco6850 2 ай бұрын
Yeah this I always strap ceillings.
@chriscolameco6850
@chriscolameco6850 2 ай бұрын
OSB, table saw and a framing nailer. Cheap and ads maybe 2-3 minutes of labor per finished sheet
@1Aplease
@1Aplease 3 ай бұрын
5/8 is 1/8 over 1/2 . Don't u need more support to start with? Seems to me 1/8 thicker rock still needs extra support. Why is it 24" and not 16" on center or strapping for support? Not understanding. Thank u
@andrewcarr2431
@andrewcarr2431 2 ай бұрын
Unless you strap the ceiling first or add strapping/blocking where the edges meet to add additional fastener strength. 5/8 board, while a little more ridged may not solve the problem in this instance.
@usche1
@usche1 Жыл бұрын
Gracias😊
@southernslipping4225
@southernslipping4225 3 ай бұрын
That ain’t why they didn’t screw the end of sheet down
@scxrvyy9857
@scxrvyy9857 5 ай бұрын
And if the taper dosent put the tape on right the joint will crack or if it doesn’t get smooth in right it can blister or if the tape dosent have enough mud it can blister as well
@andywood3311
@andywood3311 Ай бұрын
If it’s framed right you don’t have that issue there has to be something there to attach it to
@lartyhartison9209
@lartyhartison9209 7 ай бұрын
5/8" drywall is code in résidentielle and commercial dwellings for ceilings always because its fire retardant to hamper fire before it reaches the upper floors for 1hr or more , ,,,,,,,,
@get_some2083
@get_some2083 5 ай бұрын
That's what I always understood also
@GregoryGuay
@GregoryGuay 12 күн бұрын
5/8” gyp in RC1 at 16” OC , right? Getting ready to DIY….
@dezln420
@dezln420 11 ай бұрын
Done plenty 1/2”lids on2’ never had problem
@Bryan-wq1ng
@Bryan-wq1ng Жыл бұрын
Hmmm? Informative 😜
@GreatWhiteNiko
@GreatWhiteNiko 5 ай бұрын
House is 15 years old. All ceilingsa re 1/2" drywall. No problems until the foundation started to move. So what were you saying about it all?
@FoolyLiving
@FoolyLiving 10 ай бұрын
I have a metal roof that has no rafters at all, and has rigid foamboard insulation that is not covered or even painted. How would I go about making this fireproof because if this catches fire from our bad electric, were gonna be toast. It burns hot, dirty, and quick! I have thought of putting fireproofing paint on it and then covering it with glued on wool felt or painting it with thinned out concrete. Would these work to make it safer? Its in my living room so its pretty important. There are no wood boards in this ceiling, its all metal with foam glued.
@da324
@da324 7 ай бұрын
I'd fix the bad electric first!
@patrickcowan8701
@patrickcowan8701 6 ай бұрын
1/2" ultralight is rated for ceilings on 24" center's
@JD-ft2lr
@JD-ft2lr 5 ай бұрын
Indeed! As long as its run perpendicular to rafters and fastened properly.
@bent1208
@bent1208 5 ай бұрын
And what everyone else is saying, strapping. The guy missed it on this one.
@1Aplease
@1Aplease 3 ай бұрын
I thought so. All weight needs good support. Gravity is a beast.
@scxrvyy9857
@scxrvyy9857 5 ай бұрын
Dosent matter what kind of sheet you use weathered if it’s 1/2 or 5/8 if the sheets aren’t staggered when hung after a while it starts to crack and the way you tape/ mud as well
@wagohowardmusic
@wagohowardmusic Жыл бұрын
If done on 16incenters and layer horizontal.. well it works. Just not a stuff. How ever did that they used full sheet and laid the opposite way. Thusly no support in middle at seems.. ;(
@juliagoolia5604
@juliagoolia5604 5 ай бұрын
What happens if your mom’s house was built in 1978 and the vaulted ceiling and even kitchen ceiling is cracking out? Should she replace the whole ceiling?! We tried repainting, crown molding, replacing insulation everything! Besides replacing the dry wall. So is that what we should do?😢
@andrewcarr2431
@andrewcarr2431 2 ай бұрын
cracking is the result of structural movement, need to address that issue first. If your drywall is nailed then add screws for additional support, if that doesn't work then you may need to remove the ceiling to fix any structural issues.
@davesiringo7147
@davesiringo7147 6 ай бұрын
Use crown molding 😅
@ericmadx3063
@ericmadx3063 Жыл бұрын
I used 1/4 and no cracks as long as you use a good amount of compound with tape on the seams ur good but that was me
@bonefiedrealdeal3640
@bonefiedrealdeal3640 8 ай бұрын
You use no coat angle on 45 angles not tape and you don’t push on the ceiling
@Raw-Russ
@Raw-Russ 5 ай бұрын
Shouldn't those boards be turned 90° so they are across as many studs as possible.
@andrewcarr2431
@andrewcarr2431 2 ай бұрын
doesn't make any difference, the perimeter of the boards should be secured to a framing member.
@mercedesbouchard5118
@mercedesbouchard5118 8 ай бұрын
So how do you fix a problem? I'm having issues. Thanks
@jacksmith2315
@jacksmith2315 6 ай бұрын
Strapping
@kidjetrecon7153
@kidjetrecon7153 Жыл бұрын
Should only use Sag board, 5/8 is a big problem unless you’re code forces you.
@HomeGrownPyro1
@HomeGrownPyro1 11 ай бұрын
Why is it a big problem?
@kidjetrecon7153
@kidjetrecon7153 11 ай бұрын
@@HomeGrownPyro1 hang it
@jacksmith2315
@jacksmith2315 6 ай бұрын
Ive only ever used 5/8 sheet rock on ceilings. Make a 2x4 T to hold it up
@justtisha
@justtisha 9 ай бұрын
Wouldn't you want to land on a joist?
@andrewbrakey6214
@andrewbrakey6214 7 ай бұрын
Yeah doesn't seem to end on a joist or board.
@jacksmith2315
@jacksmith2315 6 ай бұрын
Thats why you use strapping 16 on center. Your 48" sheets will always land half on strapping for both pieces to be screwed to. Much flatter and stronger ceilings
@andrewbrakey6214
@andrewbrakey6214 7 ай бұрын
Seems like they just floated that piece. Shouldn't be able to flex the seam if it's on the truss.
@jacksmith2315
@jacksmith2315 6 ай бұрын
The edges are not on a truss or strapping. Big reason here in new england we always strap our ceilings. Gives a much flatter and stronger ceiling.
@omelet8965
@omelet8965 Жыл бұрын
Whats recommended for bedroom ceiling?
@justinberry3991
@justinberry3991 Жыл бұрын
Mirrors
@skhateanddestroy1252
@skhateanddestroy1252 Жыл бұрын
​@@justinberry3991 😆
@jrremodelandrestore7918
@jrremodelandrestore7918 Жыл бұрын
Wtf?
@bonefiedrealdeal3640
@bonefiedrealdeal3640 8 ай бұрын
What about resilient channel or ceiling board?
@New-Breed-Drywall-And-Paint
@New-Breed-Drywall-And-Paint 10 ай бұрын
That’s not the reason, the reason is the screws . You need to use steel stud screws on wood to prevent that , and tape your joints with a extra light weight mud so it don't put to much weight on the paper. If you tape with a heavy mud it won’t hold up. The paper becomes to heavy and falls off the ceiling .use 20min hot mud in the end on the final coat. It will lock everything into place . Also don’t prefill any large openings . You need that gap for expansion and contraction . Lastly a huge tip is wetting all your drywall before you install, but don’t soak it. Just a little damp and install it so that when it shrinks up and dries, it drys around the screw. Sorta becoming one with it and locking that drywall into place . And stop staggering sheetrock . You just create way more work with all these little tiny joints everywhere . That’s just more options for the joints to crack as opposed to just one joint . Think about it 15 joints on a ceiling or 5 which one has the greater odds of cracking ..:.. feel free to ask any questions I might have not answered
@jacksmith2315
@jacksmith2315 6 ай бұрын
Use strapping under the trusses/joists. Lay out 16" on center so all your seams land on the strapping/a nailer. Much flatter and stronger ceilings
@New-Breed-Drywall-And-Paint
@New-Breed-Drywall-And-Paint 6 ай бұрын
@@jacksmith2315 my man . Great minds think alike
@Samuel-ik5wp
@Samuel-ik5wp 10 ай бұрын
I thought 8-mile worked in a factory?
@1mrsleepy1
@1mrsleepy1 11 ай бұрын
Glue the studs!
@jacksmith2315
@jacksmith2315 6 ай бұрын
Just run strapping 16" on center for nailers
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