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Why you SHOULDN'T use the "one finger per fret" thing!

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Scott's Bass Lessons

Scott's Bass Lessons

Күн бұрын

I was just about to shoot out to the studio to do a session which was gonna take all day... but, I still wanted to release a lesson, so I hit record and filmed went "gorilla style"... hence why the audio quality isn't our finest - it was literally straight out of the camera...
In this lesson you're going to learn:
- Why you SHOULDN'T use the one finger per fret technique
- Why it may be holding your playing back
- And... what you should use instead!
As always, see you in the shed...
Scott :)
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@KeenestObserver
@KeenestObserver 7 жыл бұрын
I prefer these kind of ''shorter'' videos Scott :) It allows me to learn something efficiently in a focused way rather than waste alot of time not learning anything and having trouble remembering what's actually important to remember in your very long videos.
@jonrichardson2905
@jonrichardson2905 7 жыл бұрын
One finger per fret is fine for learning scales and the like but too robotic in practice. Play what feels right. Move around the neck! Express yourself!
@lowstringc
@lowstringc 7 жыл бұрын
After moving from fretless electric to double bass study in college, I've found Simamdl technique to be super natural, efficient, and comfortable. Everything has its place, but most of the time 1-2-4 fingering works best, and finger per fret or pivots are used in context.
@BassForever44
@BassForever44 7 жыл бұрын
i use the not-finger-per-fret technique when in the lower register. Used to think that if I didn't use the finger per fret technique for absolutely everything, I was less of a bass player, lol, but as years passed by I just thought "fuck it" and just play however feels more comfortable.
@jesseturner9865
@jesseturner9865 7 жыл бұрын
comfort and efficiency are the guidelines. in watching videos about phrases a guitarist would play, most point out how getting to the next "word" would be easier if you used a certain finger progression. it's the same for any instrument, even drums (in this case hands not fingers).
@LeSpocky
@LeSpocky 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. Really. I have rather small hands with short fingers, and I always asked myself how you would play "one finger per fret" near the head of the instrument. By intuition the best fit would be 1st finger to 1st fret, 2nd finger to 2nd fret, and 3rd and 4th finger together to 3rd fret, which is quite comfortable to play, but I always had in mind it must be wrong somehow, but well, obviously it is not? Only on the higher frets, lets say from 5th or even 7th fret on it's possible to reach a "4th" fret with the 4th finger at all, without stretching the fingers until it hurts. So thanks for making clear both are valid techniques and one can use both when appropriate. :-)
@julianlavreau5618
@julianlavreau5618 3 жыл бұрын
I respect Scott. I think that anyone who offers their insight and expertise to help others learn are to be thanked and appreciated. I've noticed one constant behavior in nearly every video on KZfaq where a professional is providing teaching advice. Their focus tends to be on showing off their own ability rather than teaching. There's a big difference between the two activities. I don't think that applies to Scott, but one manifestation of doing the former is apparent here. He plays too damn fast. It is often hard to see what he is doing. Teachers demonstrate slowly and they use repetition. I would pay for online lessons in a New York minute, but they need to be effective. In any case, I do respect and thank all those who at least try to help teach.
@mrpositronia
@mrpositronia 7 жыл бұрын
So, you SHOULD use it, but DON'T have to. Not necessarily that you SHOULDN'T use it, as the title suggests.
@groofay
@groofay 7 жыл бұрын
Nothing like a sort of click-baity video title to start off the day, am I right? I do like that he made a separate video about this though. Being new to bass guitar, everything I read is all about using a finger per fret. And while I'm an experienced enough musician to see through that, there are others who aren't. Just...yeah, shame about the title.
@NightStalker1988
@NightStalker1988 7 жыл бұрын
My takeaway was that the four-finger-technique can be detrimental to use in some bass lines, because strictly adhering to it can force you to make uneconomic and 'weird' hand movements. So there are indeed cases where you SHOULDN'T use it.
@RyanWright
@RyanWright 7 жыл бұрын
I think what Scott is trying to say is that for beginners and when you are first learning to play, the 1 finger per fret thing has some value for strengthening your fingers and for just getting used to the muscle memory, but that later on in your playing, when you get to be a little more advanced, you can mix it up as you need to... depends on the song and the situation
@orbit951
@orbit951 7 жыл бұрын
The title doesn't seem to imply that people should abandon "proper technique"
@gcanaday1
@gcanaday1 7 жыл бұрын
Jam Idiot Proper is what flows from one position to the next without strain or injury. Under no circumstances is any single system proper for every single situation, but the player should be comfortable with switching things up in order to flow well. Forced technique is audible. Easy technique flows.
@ErnieJ89
@ErnieJ89 7 жыл бұрын
I was actually going over this with my teacher in my bass studio class today. I was thinking "I wonder if Scott has ever covered this?" Lo and behold! Cheers Scott!
@kontrafuss
@kontrafuss 6 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. The 1-2-4-finger-thing is the regular double bass fingering method.
@Bass.Player
@Bass.Player 7 жыл бұрын
I have been playing so long that I never think about what fingers I'm using, if I thought about it I probably could not do it?
@Bragituba
@Bragituba 6 жыл бұрын
Bass Player Nailed it. Sometimes, it's good to think about the technical aspects of playing, but, as one of my old teachers once told me, a musician wears many hats. When you're practicing, you're wearing the hat of the critic, but when you're performing you have to remove that hat and put on your performance hat. If you analyze what you're doing during a performance, you'll get bogged down in technique and won't produce the best quality performance you can. Don't wear two hats at the same time. It just looks dumb. Lol
@druudru1052
@druudru1052 7 жыл бұрын
Hey scott, how about a lesson on talking/singing while playin bass? A really though and heavily under adressed topic...
@gregoryhunter7413
@gregoryhunter7413 3 жыл бұрын
I do this a lot and I have some tips! One is, get your bassline so thoroughly under you fingers that you can do it on autopilot, then singing over it feels less like dividing your brain and more like doing one task. The other thing I suggest is general polyrhythm practice, and also singing while tapping eighths on your leg or whatever. Just trying to really understand how a vocal rhythm jives against a pulse.
@bean9seventy
@bean9seventy 7 жыл бұрын
Bass is Bass 4 fingers gets you into blowing like a saxophone , great 3 fingers advanced gets you into blowing like a Trumpet ,, extra great (edited 3 notes ) finally after learning all of that ,, you get into using the bass like a Piano , awesome thanks scott
@jnyfumare
@jnyfumare 7 жыл бұрын
I've been playing exactly as you prescribed here for the past 3 decades just out of it feeling right. I think that these little things are really good and helpful.
@hdmw232
@hdmw232 4 жыл бұрын
I learnt to call it position shifting, been around as long as instruments have had strings. You are demonstrating Double Bass Technique 1, 2 & 4th fingers. Different fingerings for different situations have fed me & my family for the past few decades.
@spaceducc3471
@spaceducc3471 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Scott; I don't know if anyone's mentioned it but the three finger method has a few names, the earliest one I've come across is the Simandl method, named in 1881 after the German double-bassist who wrote a popular double bass lesson book using that fingering system.
@feedthechunk9836
@feedthechunk9836 7 жыл бұрын
Great lesson! I've always hated the finger per threat thing and when I don''t use it I feel like I'm being judged by the 'purist.'
@ClovisELKhazen
@ClovisELKhazen 7 жыл бұрын
Just had to say, I've been tuning in for years now and I've bought a few courses, but this is by far the best 6 mins SBL has produced so far. Up there with that "sliding gracefully to the notes video". You rock Scott keep it up!
@brocknightingale40
@brocknightingale40 6 жыл бұрын
This is a great lesson if you play finger per fret, like I always have. Playing the pentatonic scale through the modes up the neck, only using 1st and 4th fingers, is helping me blend together the 3 fret and 4 fret spreads. Thank you for sharing your knowledge Scott!
@Mister.Shamir
@Mister.Shamir 6 жыл бұрын
it's easier to summarize by saying that when playing riffs or grooves based on the pentatonic scale or something that's just root and fifths, it's usually easier to use the 3 finger style he's talking about(which if you notice in his examples, he's only really using index and pinky). other than that, one finger per fret is the way to go.
@stephenroth8132
@stephenroth8132 7 жыл бұрын
Being an upright player first, the 1-2-4 was the way I played everything on the electric. One has to be able to move back and forth between the techniques seamlessly to really be proficient. Also helps if you're a "doubler" like I am.
@rquance1
@rquance1 7 жыл бұрын
Consider the full-size upright bass Player. We never use one finger per fret due to the size of the strings. Most of the time it is 2 or 3 fingers per note to keep the fingers from tiring out and to keep a solid contact of the string on the neck of the Bass. Learn all of the fingering variations and use them when and where you need to. It is all about speed and efficiency of finger motion on the neck.
@stimpsonjcat26
@stimpsonjcat26 7 жыл бұрын
100% agree. I have never paid much attention to finger per fret except when practicing scales. I always use whichever fingering is easiest to use. When you play fast you will realize that getting to the next part of the fret board quickly requires you to use fingers in the wrong positions to get there quickly.
@m0zidesigner
@m0zidesigner 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Scott! I have been watching your videos for a while and I recently bought my first bass guitar. Your videos are super helpful, keep up the good work!
@normanw.5725
@normanw.5725 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Scott, i think this subject deserves more than just a quick 6min video because this time you only scratched an important topic on its surface only an it opens more questions rather than answering them. When is it advisable to use 3 Fingers (handsize and position on the fretboard, slapping and muting/dampening, certain scales) and when not, How and when to correctly switch between them inside a scale and so on. My two cents. Thanks for reading
@valerynorth
@valerynorth 6 жыл бұрын
I started on upright double bass at school, and the shout-out for Simandl was a great reference! It was actually something I've thought about a lot watching your videos, the differences between classical/upright bass versus bass guitar
@nathaneskin3572
@nathaneskin3572 6 жыл бұрын
This is pretty good advice to anyone who wants to avoid carpal tunnel.
@fredvoege805
@fredvoege805 7 жыл бұрын
It's all about efficiency. It's not that 1-2-3 is "bad" technique. If one finger per fret makes a part harder to play, don't do it. For those with smaller hands, you've probably already figured this out, especially lower down the neck. I would add that it's absolutely important to have a strong pinkie finger, as per Scott's one-two-four illustration. Beginners must strengthen that pinkie, not rely on ring finger too much.
7 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry to say, but for me (!) this video doesn't answer the question WHY I shouldn't use the four finger strech. What's my advantage of not using it?
@FreakazoidsAsteroids
@FreakazoidsAsteroids 7 жыл бұрын
Just like adjusting your choice of notes to suit the key & chord you're playing over, it's sometimes necessary to adjust your technique to suit what you're playing, as opposed to employing a rigid 'one size fits all' approach and using finger-per-fret on everything. I think that's what he's saying. The Chic tune 'Dance Dance Dance' serves up a good example of when not to use finger per fret. 8+ mins of octaves in F at the first fret. Nasty!
@jnyfumare
@jnyfumare 7 жыл бұрын
As Scott said, "that would be poor technique"
@fredvoege805
@fredvoege805 7 жыл бұрын
Not that you shouldn't use the four finger stretch, more that you can use the fourth finger instead of the third in some cases: 1-2-4 instead of 1-2-3. It depends on the riff or scale you're playing. You can see the two different cases in the example he plays, "I Want You Back".
@jgrossma
@jgrossma 6 жыл бұрын
Its not that you NEVER use it, its that there can be CERTAIN circumstances where its better to use your little finger on the third fret. A good example would be if you need to your third finger for the very NEXT note. If you use your third one, its 'down' when it should be 'up' to hit the next note.
@alvarovallejos8465
@alvarovallejos8465 7 жыл бұрын
Was taught from the beginning finger per fret and upright three finger. Mix and match.
@jonthecomposer
@jonthecomposer 7 жыл бұрын
I practice both ways. I also practice the "awkward" one-finger-per-fret way on some lines with open notes just to be able to play them in different positions. Sometimes using a finger as a static pedal can open up a lot of possibilities. A classic example of this application is the verse in Crazy Train. Let's say you're in standard and don't want to tune down to Eb like everyone else OR your singer sings it in a completely different key. You can pedal with your second finger on the low root and play the line with 4, 3, and 1 over the top. Also, you can pedal the low root in some, and a lot of funk, lines. Say you want to just play (in quarter notes) C, Bb, G, Eb descending. You can pedal that low C between each note staccato (now they are all eighth notes) to add some flavor to the line. I don't discount the three fret method at all. It's actually a lot more comfortable and can afford you more stamina and speed. But getting all four to work on four frets is super important for many things.
@MaurizioRoccaCompositions
@MaurizioRoccaCompositions 6 жыл бұрын
Great Scott! Even if I still prefer to play 1/3/4, with 2 & 3 together, as in italian style double bass ;)
@hollowify_tensa_zangetsu
@hollowify_tensa_zangetsu 2 жыл бұрын
My teacher(vinny) always told me to keep my finger right above the frets. It makes it easier and faster to move your hand side to side with out thinking of where is my finger. So when I play bass I use the 134 most of all but I never think about it. Alot of these techniques I've never ever was taught any. With one exception scott taught me muting after 19 yrs of playing bass,guita,drums never KNEW about muting. Crazy huh! Hell everything technical with me wasn't taught I kind of just picked it up, but it took me years to realize. So learn, learn, learn and understand why we use these techniques and learn theory threw out. Freedom on the strings relay on the means.(means being the fundamentals/theory) just thought of that, neat huh
@SunRunnerNY
@SunRunnerNY 6 жыл бұрын
I was playing the three finger thing naturally and always thought of it as a bad habit. Good thing I watched this. Thanks.
@vassili87
@vassili87 7 жыл бұрын
11 years ago I didn't know the 1 finger x fret thing. I was more comfortable with not doing that. My first proper teacher told me about. Then, on my first ever recording session a friend of mine kinda let me understand the whole 1 finger x fret was holding me back. And it really make sense. Sometimes, the "power chord" less stretched shape really helps me a lot. And I'm happy with that. Good thing you did this lesson.
@bassistdc
@bassistdc 7 жыл бұрын
I tried switching around with the 2 techniques and you are right. The 1,2 and 4 finger per 3 fret spaces does work better in some situations. It does particularly on Lady Marmalade. Thanks.
@ryangriffithbass
@ryangriffithbass 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a big proponent of using the Simandl technique up to about the 5th or 7th fret, depending on how big your hands are and what's most comfortable. It's critical to minimize tension & stress in your hands to avoid injury!
@Swaayne
@Swaayne 7 жыл бұрын
Love watching your lessons, only problem I have is your bass isn't ever loud enough. Turn it up! :-)
@blues61
@blues61 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent observation and advice Scott. I've found the best fingering approach, be it on bass or guitar (my main instrument), is the one that's most efficient for the piece or style being played. I can and do play using the one finger per fret approach in certain contexts. When I run into problems with speed or timing and analyze my fretting hand movements, I often end up finding more efficient movements that break from that technique. Especially on guitar when I'm trying to move from a lead riff into a chord.
@markdaniels7174
@markdaniels7174 11 ай бұрын
I think the one-finger-per-fret method was drummed into us by guitar teachers. When you take bass lessons, 9 times out of 10 it’s with a guy who teaches guitar “and bass.” But the 1-2-4 method is more natural for bass, especially in the lower register, because the fret spacing is so much wider on bass than on guitar. Upright players and in-the-know electric bassists have successfully used the 1-2-4 method since Franz Simandl wrote about it in the 1800s.
@devinebass
@devinebass 11 ай бұрын
You make a valid point about the different methods for playing bass. Ultimately, it's about finding what works best for your style and comfort, and we're here to provide various techniques to help you become a great bass player. 🎸🎶👍
@richardfittonperkins1926
@richardfittonperkins1926 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Scott, some more succinct reasoning for the above video would be that the fret gaps are too wide below the 7th to play one finger per fret all the time, hence the 1-2-4 fingering fits perfectly. Also, stretching like that all the time, especially in the lower part of the neck locks the wrist tendons and reduces agility. Basically speaking (no pun intended!), double bass fingering works best and is the fastest and most fluid way of playing. :)
@drew-shourd
@drew-shourd 7 ай бұрын
Scott, your playing is smoother than homemade butter, sliding down the crack of a Sasquatch ass, in July mate!!! That's a compliment btw...cheers
@CoenBijpost
@CoenBijpost Жыл бұрын
Probably the finger per fret thing came over from guitar, where it’s the de facto standard, only to be swapped for 1-2-3 when doing bends (bends with the pinky aren’t that great 😅). The larger fret spacing on 34”+ basses, especially on the upper frets, makes 1-2-4 much more comfortable and fast in most cases. I really need to check myself as a guitarist starting out on bass, because old habits die hard 😅
@spoods123
@spoods123 7 жыл бұрын
Who won the contest?
@och70
@och70 7 жыл бұрын
I've been switching between between the "one per fret" & "three fret" fingering, depending on what & was playing/practicing, for as long as I can remember - without even thinking about it until I watched this! lol
@phpowerstix
@phpowerstix 6 жыл бұрын
Addicted to the P bass of late!
@blakdad
@blakdad 7 жыл бұрын
It's fumny because I tend not to use my 3rd finger at all. I've been trying to use it more. As a result my pinky is stronger
@danparsons6566
@danparsons6566 6 жыл бұрын
Converted guitar player here... 1 finger per fret is much more prevalent in guitar, so it comes very naturally for me. I do understand the need for the "crab claw" technique (this is the name Adam Neely gives to using the 4th finger on the 3rd fret technique), and use it quite often as well, but in my case, I only use it in order to give my hand a break. Is this when you recommend using the crab-claw, or is there a musical/technique reason that makes this a better technique? After 40+ years of guitar playing, I have learned that the "rules" involving technique are really just consensus suggestions, and are sort of the "common denominator". Otherwise, true innovators (and rule-breakers) like Django, Albert King and Jeff Healey would never been able to play as good as they did. So I will continue to play what fits in my own comfort zone best.
@potatoheadhaoy
@potatoheadhaoy 7 жыл бұрын
I'd do it for parts that require speed and movement, but for holding down the root note or playing simple licks,I find it better to use two fingers per fret, and move up or down the fretboard as needed.
@potatoheadhaoy
@potatoheadhaoy 7 жыл бұрын
You could also fret a note with your index finger, and use either your middle and ring finger, or your ring and pinky finger to fret the note above. It gives you some movement without it being too taxing on your left hand.
@Generalbas1972
@Generalbas1972 7 жыл бұрын
The one finger per fret thing, is something you should start learning. It will help to get faster and easier around the neck. However once you are comfetable with your bass and your neck, like scales and everything else you should develop your OWN fingering and do what feels right for you NOT what your music teacher or anyone else says.
@stevemitchell5009
@stevemitchell5009 10 ай бұрын
You play so well its hard for me to keep up, but thanks .
@devinebass
@devinebass 10 ай бұрын
Hey Steve! Thanks for checking out the video, we have a lot more videos on our channel which might be easier to follow, here's a few we'd recommend checking out; kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jZ17ir2Ks7_Udqc.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nK6AZLiIzJPMdok.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/edmFgd1nqJisnmw.html
@uteruntuwene
@uteruntuwene 7 жыл бұрын
Wow............!!! Thank you Scott...
@jordanevans3507
@jordanevans3507 7 жыл бұрын
I agree, a combination of the two is the best
@twocsies
@twocsies 6 жыл бұрын
Guitarists and bassists both use primarily three fingers. The difference is that guitarists typically use the pointer, middle and ring fingers; bassists use the pointer, middle and pinky.
@jesseturner9865
@jesseturner9865 6 жыл бұрын
part of that is because the ring and the pinky finger have a tendon in share. it takes a lot of practice but you can get up to all four fingers on both hands.
@drew.k2385
@drew.k2385 7 жыл бұрын
I was always taught to use fpf but found it totally impractical. Glad to hear some validation at last
@HrpbTV
@HrpbTV 7 жыл бұрын
What are those gloves called and where can I buy them? I know why you have them, and I might need them too. Awesome work man, love the channel! Cheers!
@RonnieBeal
@RonnieBeal 7 жыл бұрын
This is great Scott.. Thanks for sharing this. I'm sure it will be invaluable information to many of our Musicians Club's Bass players.. I will share immediately.... In case I ever miss any of your useful uploads, be a good idea to always send it to the Club yourself as soon as you've uploaded here.. All the best.. Ronnie Beal.. Musicians Club. 😀🎼🎹
@xerxesxylophone7188
@xerxesxylophone7188 7 жыл бұрын
So, basically don't use finger per fret if you don't actually have to stretch your fingers that far? I sometimes use four fingers over three frets so that I don't end up with uncomfortable stretches.
@MiketheBassMan
@MiketheBassMan 7 жыл бұрын
Great playing Scott, and really helpful! Thanks.
@joecittadino4267
@joecittadino4267 4 жыл бұрын
I spent years practicing very painful and boring physical exercises based on one fret per finger (4 fret span). The idea is more than that though. You also must not let your thumb collapse either and each finger should hover just above the position even when not being played. This builds equal strength and control in every finger and does eventually result in the most efficient playing (just like in classical guitar). However, I also find you can lose some "feel" and sound robotic if you do not continue until you achieve equal strength and you can actually play worse than if you didn't apply this discipline at all. So, you either need to stick with it completely or not at all. Scott achieves tremendous groove and feel you can not duplicate until you achieve equal strength and dexterity with every finger.
@horowizard
@horowizard 7 жыл бұрын
It's not so much as a three-finger "stretch" as a reduction that enables facilitation of big leaps to the next string. If you lock into a one finger per fret position you will trip up with certain minor scales and anything where you have to shift to a lower position on the neck.
@soundlaboratoriessoundsrig8289
@soundlaboratoriessoundsrig8289 7 жыл бұрын
I love your lessons!
@butre.
@butre. 7 жыл бұрын
use whatever finger is appropriate. if you already have a finger over the note, use it. if you don't, change to the most appropriate position.
@thisdyingsoul76
@thisdyingsoul76 7 жыл бұрын
I just do what's comfortable and allows easy transition to the next part. One habit I'm trying to break though is I often barre the strings when 2 notes are on different strings at the same fret. I need to train my hands to either roll that same finger over to the other fret to mute the previous note when called for, or get in the habit of using a different finger altogether. I suspect as I work out which tequnique works best for ne, it's going to be depending on what is coming next.
@jeffsDad
@jeffsDad 2 жыл бұрын
Coming from guitar, I mostly do one finger per fret. I keep seeing so many talented bassists using the 3 finger shape and I'm debating whether I should learn it. Feels just a little off to me. Maybe this exercise will help.
@violetolegaspi3819
@violetolegaspi3819 6 жыл бұрын
thanks sir scott
@JoeyBullet222
@JoeyBullet222 6 жыл бұрын
its good to use all 4 fingers to build dexterity, the pinky on the third fret instead of the ring finger on the third fret is kinda lazy, but simpler, if players get used to using all 4, one for each fret, they will naturally digress to that less straineous way when its necessary.
@Empyrean55
@Empyrean55 7 жыл бұрын
These are the videos I subscribed for!
@adhanda2017
@adhanda2017 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Very helpful :)
6 жыл бұрын
Important to teach kids to use all fingers, !
@RayK47utizube
@RayK47utizube 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome, I have been wondering about this for a while! Thank you for clarifying!\m/\m/!
@Bldyiii
@Bldyiii 4 жыл бұрын
I think it depends on the bass size and which fret position you’re in. Frets by the headstock are wider apart than the frets by the bridge
@CaptainMorgan_CommanderPotts
@CaptainMorgan_CommanderPotts 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Scott, great as always, but the title was a tad misleading. It says "why you shouldn't use it", but you said it's valuable. Was the title supposed to say "Why you shouldn't use the 'finger per fret' all the time"? But anyway, thank you not just from me personally, but for putting this out there for some of those that may be struggling. When I get into the lower position (around the first four-five frets, really spaced out ones), I either pivot or I shorten the stretch of my index to my pinky. However, I do stretching exercises with my hand, like pressing it against a wall and spreading my fingers apart in a certain way (it's safe and feels really good, so don't worry)
@joescartwright
@joescartwright 7 жыл бұрын
The lessons you put up are cool but I feel like it'd be super helpful to see more of you just playing with other people. Some context for how you use the concepts you teach would be great, maybe that's not so relevant to this vid but I've been thinking it for a while. Cheers, Joe.
@TheHunter0955
@TheHunter0955 6 жыл бұрын
I glad that's just not only me
@robbiejguitarist
@robbiejguitarist 7 жыл бұрын
I must admit this video didn't turn out to be what I thought it was going to be about. I assumed that you were going to talk about stretch fingering, where sometimes the fingers have to reach beyond their normal one finger per fret. What you seem to be advocating is a kind of bunched fingering approach, which I guess we do all use at different times, for, as you said, more groove orientated playing.
@CentaurusRelax314
@CentaurusRelax314 3 жыл бұрын
Just coming to this 'old' video, as i await delivery of a 5-string bass. I am a (crappy) guitar player as my primary instrument, and so it vexes me to watch bass players, as i've always tried to apply the same type of guitar fingering to bass. But, when i try to use the 'pinky' instead of the third finger for a note two frets away from the index, it does seem easier to fret cleanly-most especially when doing the octaves thing. Not sure why, since my pinky should be noticeably weaker than my third finger, and i'm much more comfortable with the third finger. But, hey-if you say "this is the way," then i will be doing it this way. // Ooh, just noticed your tee shirt in this video. I used to skate in NYC's Central Park for 25 years-some of my best memories.
@greenvinyldream
@greenvinyldream 7 жыл бұрын
the bare hands are refreshing
@devinebass
@devinebass 7 жыл бұрын
But cold! ;)
@JoshuaDb_The_Witness
@JoshuaDb_The_Witness 7 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@jrios109
@jrios109 6 жыл бұрын
Man!! I always wondered about that! Thank You for making a video like this one!! :D Could you make more videos like this!?? I got it, but... I'm still a little bit confused... :(
@chizmo7
@chizmo7 6 жыл бұрын
Great stuff. Thanks!
@OlettaLiano
@OlettaLiano 7 жыл бұрын
Good video. I never really think about what my left hand is doing when I play. I just let it do what feels natural. The finger per fret method is nice for learning scales and giving every finger a workout, but when I'm playing metal bass lines the notes are zipping by so fast I don't have time to think about what my hand is doing. I just think music.
@bwolohan18
@bwolohan18 7 жыл бұрын
Lovely groove in your playing even with the most simple of bass lines! Nothing else matters and I'm not talking at all about the name of a Metallica song. I mean literally, if you've got groove in what your playing, you're laughing. If it sounds good, it's good. I'm sure you'd agree Scott. Sometimes the slowest and most basic of bass lines are the hardest to nail and groove. (Great for practicing, see how slow you can play) I'm off the point but I just noticed your constant groove that compelled me to comment. 👌
@FilipCordas
@FilipCordas 7 жыл бұрын
Isn't this mostly done by guys that have learned some classical instruments? I met a lot of classical guitar guys that play the bass who say that is the only 'proper' way to play.
@alpexa4402
@alpexa4402 7 жыл бұрын
Not 'some classical instruments' but 'classical guitar'. On classical double bass for instance you won't use finger per fret (or maybe finger per semitone, as they're no frets) while playing close to the nut - the span makes it rather impossible for anybody but guys with really huge hands.
@FilipCordas
@FilipCordas 7 жыл бұрын
You are right I was thinking more of violin and cello. I know they don't like doing thumb over the neck stuff like Louis Johnson.
@devinebass
@devinebass 7 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily - I've seen a LOT of players who play a finger per fret that don't come from a classical background. The main issue, is when peeps try and use it 'all' the time - as a lot of the time, the finger per fret thing isn't the best route to go. Thanks for watching man! :)
@BassForever44
@BassForever44 7 жыл бұрын
My main bass teacher had classical training on double bass mainly, and in his view, if you didn't play a finger per fret, you're wrong. So yes, I agree that this applies mostly to people with classical training or who have been trained by teachers with classical background (like me)
@jelluh24
@jelluh24 7 жыл бұрын
Can confirm. I play the cello and I'm just getting into bass and I use the one finger per fret, because that's what I'm used to doing (well not frets but you get the point). Unless you're playing really high up the fingerboard on a cello you always assign a finger per semitone.
@NotThatOneThisOne
@NotThatOneThisOne 7 жыл бұрын
Great video. I find 1FpF useful when transcribing and identifying patterns and scales (Muse's Hysteria comes to mind), but then look how to play it comfortably. I also find 1FpF can be dreadful for muting. Would be interested to hear your views on when to use open strings and when not.
@fujidrengen
@fujidrengen 7 жыл бұрын
THATS my Way ! .... Thanks !
@brettmarlar4154
@brettmarlar4154 7 жыл бұрын
I do often shift between the two techniques, but it's usually due to certain fingers getting fatigued during rather long jammed out songs. Even then that tends to be the result of songs I'm playing toward the end of a long gig.
@krombacher5934
@krombacher5934 6 жыл бұрын
If you use it, you will RULE over six frets! For example: Starting on fret 2 with finger 1, so this finger can also reach fret 1 (double function). The same happens with finger 4, for fret 5 and 6.
@MastaVator
@MastaVator 7 жыл бұрын
ha ha my pinky automatically want to go to the fourth fret down!!
@arickthen4030
@arickthen4030 7 жыл бұрын
Hey, Scott. Can you tell me why 1-2-3 is "bad technique?" over 1-2-4?
@just__khang
@just__khang 4 жыл бұрын
The 3 fingers are way too close so you have to stretch your muscle a lot. For a while, it will cause some kind of pains to your fingers. Meanwhile, 1 2 4 allows more space between the fingers so more relaxed finger movements. One finger per fret is good when you are playing on high fret I guess or when you want the toanz.
@Tracer9GTRider8
@Tracer9GTRider8 6 жыл бұрын
I have average sized hands and struggle sometimes with a finger per fret, especially when skipping a string, so I do this all the time. Like when I play Money by Pink Floyd. Going from the 2nd fret of the A string to the 4th fret of the G string. 😬
@RootsBassCanada
@RootsBassCanada 7 жыл бұрын
There was a flamenco guitarist teacher teaching me electric bass before who tells me to use 'one finger per fret' thing. I never listened. Plus now, I'm 99% double bass player. I play how I want to...
@oterovidal2484
@oterovidal2484 6 жыл бұрын
Are those Flatwounds? They sound Awesome!
@raythaw1916
@raythaw1916 7 жыл бұрын
Three finger "squish"!!
@devinebass
@devinebass 7 жыл бұрын
Lol, that's the one! :)
@tatetm2809
@tatetm2809 7 жыл бұрын
I liked this video, but man that little bit of spit flying at high velocity at the camera caught my eye at 4:16. But still, good video.
@boondocksaint4082
@boondocksaint4082 6 жыл бұрын
I want to see a signed Scott Devine custom designed precision bass guitar.
@marike1100
@marike1100 7 жыл бұрын
Actually some teachers like Ed Friedland teach the three fret thing (fingers 1-2-4) that Scott mentions, particularly in first and second position when the frets are farther apart. But if you are playing bebop licks or scales up the neck, there is no doubt that the one finger per fret method makes sense.
@devinebass
@devinebass 7 жыл бұрын
Ed is THE man! :)
@sklerograph486
@sklerograph486 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Scott! I allways thought I am kind of cheating XD
@brockadcock2735
@brockadcock2735 6 жыл бұрын
So funny... When Scott said "let me think of a song that uses both 3 and 4 finger technique" my first thought was want you back by the Jackson 5.... Sure enough that's what he thought too. I freaking love that bass line.
@NMranchhand
@NMranchhand 5 жыл бұрын
That 1,2,4-finger, three-fret thing is called the “Devine Method”
@rqkeating
@rqkeating 7 жыл бұрын
Would love to hear your take on 3 vs 4 fingering when playing fretless.
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