Why Your Handlebar And Stem Are More Important Than You Think
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Күн бұрынThere are a lot of ways get the right fit out of your bike. While selecting the correct frame size is the best place to start, adjusting things like stem length, bar height and width, and your bikes stack can help fine tune your trusty steed to fit your body perfectly. In this video, with support from Deity Components, Christina Chappetta covers all you need to know about adjusting your bike to fit you.
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00:00 Intro
01:23 Stem Length
03:25 Bar Length
05:36 Bar Rise
07:21 Bar Roll
08:43 Adjusting Stack
10:35 Grip Diameter
11:15 - Adjust Effective Seat Tube Angle
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@BlueGoose29 10 ай бұрын
definitely one of, if not the best fit tutorials I ever seen, thanks Christina! 👍
@pinkbike 10 ай бұрын
It was in-depth alright! But covered nearrrly all of it, thanks -Christina
@geraldfilmore6978 10 ай бұрын
More videos like this please! I see so many riders that could benefit from better setup. Once a rider is on a good setup its so fun to see their riding exude confidence!
@pinkbike 10 ай бұрын
Agreed, it's the little things for sure that really add up and create comfort/control -Christina
@peterfranzjr.1190 5 ай бұрын
I have a short, 35mm stem and 800mm stock bars but I feel like I am awkwardly too far back and leaned forward w/ 42mm fork offset. I am looking into possibly switching to a 50mm stem with 760mm E90 Carbon bars. Would it potentially be a good idea to get a 51mm offset fork (which I found an upgrade for a really good deal) during all of this? I am fishing around for opinions
@liwx 10 ай бұрын
God darn Deity surely knows how to make perfect advertising without telling it’s advertising
@Inzolity 10 ай бұрын
pinkbike is such an incredible resource for this kind of information - thank you! Ben Cathro's "how to bike" is also a goldmine of information.
@pinkbike 10 ай бұрын
Cheers! We appreciate that. Will keep at it -Christina
@yaakov_meir 10 ай бұрын
Who wrote the script? This is the most original, forward thinking structure to deliver a tutorial I've seen in years, including photography editing. Very high level staff involved.
@griffithd05 10 ай бұрын
This had the feeling of Ari Henning from Revzilla and that is a huge compliment for bith Christine and Ari. You're both terrific presenters of information that you are clearly passionate about without coming across as the end all be all.
@itaygothelf3952 10 ай бұрын
Great stuff. Manuals, Bunnyhops, all behave very different when changing stack heights, reach and bar-roll ... and can sometimes be the answer for why you struggle with them
@pinkbike 10 ай бұрын
Ahh... this explains everything for me hahah but seriously, so true. On the dirt jumper I really love a good high rise bar with those crazy tiny wheels for example -Christina
@ShadLife 10 ай бұрын
Really good stuff here. A lot was covered so I am sure many people will need to rewatch this a few times.
@mikeburgh3956 10 ай бұрын
Ty shad for linking this video in your community tab👍🏻
@vincentkeyes3304 9 ай бұрын
Christina really nails it! Covering all these overlapping adjustments and breaking it down in digestible form. It takes time to absorb these little changes we make on our bikes as we strive for the ideal. This vid reminds me these little changes are important and we can hone are position to our current riding style. I knew all this stuff sort of but this instruction really brought it home for me.
@gravelben 10 ай бұрын
Great video, covers a lot of things I learnt the hard way because I didn't have a video like this to watch when I was starting out! Being in between M and L sizes for most bikes I'm often tinkering with setup to get a good fit.
@berniecalo01 10 ай бұрын
One of the most comprehensive and helpful videos I’ve come across here in Pinkbike. Thanks Christina!
@chameleon-dream-band-official 10 ай бұрын
This is great info! I used to do a lot of long-distance XC and suffered from really bad back, perineum (sorry TMI), and hand pain. I was amazed how a few simple geo/set-up changes massively improved this. This video isn't just nerd-out stuff, it's really valuable!
@JesusRescuesUs3-16 8 ай бұрын
Christina love your tutorials, straightforward and to the point.
@user-rw3uk6gm9m 4 ай бұрын
One of the best, if not the best bike fit/adjustment video. Cristina was awesome! Thank you for your time and effort!
@paulhusby8344 4 ай бұрын
Very nicely done! Thank you. So many fit videos, but few have addressed this aspect of overall fit.
@elliotclayton910 10 ай бұрын
Incredible video. I have always had a nagging curiosity about making some of these tweaks to my setup to better fit my frame. I’m in between L/XL frame size, i went with the L frame and haven’t had any issues and love my bike but have always felt like I could make a few tweaks to get it more suited to me, but never really understood what effect each tweak would have! Thank you so much for this video!
@matthewbrady7848 7 ай бұрын
Thank you. I just started riding in September and this video and your very clear step by step breakdowns of what each change may do was so helpful. This video helped me pinpoint what I was feeling out on the trail and enabled me to select a bar that now feels amazing. I went with a Deity Racepoint 38 rise and I slightly narrowed my bar width to really dial in my cockpit for my riding style. I have played slightly with bar roll as you described and it can make pretty amazing changes in feel. I focused on one change at a time. First rise. Then bar width. Then some roll changes. I have found my nice balance point.
@apjumeau 10 ай бұрын
This video is amazing and you're an awesome presenter Christina. Thank you for this!
@mikeriley1475 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for this. I've been playing around with these things for a while, still have yet to find my ideal setup. Another thing that I spent a good bit fussing with that wasn't covered here is sweep. Like the PNW range bars back sweep. I've found it helps with wrist and body position personally, and I liked it a lot more than the shorter stem which I wasn't a fan of. I wish this video had been out a year or so ago when I was just starting to learn about all of this (and I'm still learning) because you've summed up much of what took me weeks to read about in 12 minutes.
@Whitehawkvisionfilms 4 ай бұрын
Best explanation I've found so far! Great job!
@infoatnorcal2304 9 ай бұрын
Keep these coming CC all of these setup tips are super good, THANKS!!!🤠
@rotaxtwin 10 ай бұрын
Lots of info there, worth another watch or two even. I've always been surprised with how much the smallest change of bar position completely changes the feel of the bike.
@profjst8157 10 ай бұрын
Lots of infos in that video! Thank you! I’ll have to watch it again and again and experiment with my bike settings!
@onetwofourfive 10 ай бұрын
Excellent video, thank you Christina
@winklertribe5268 10 ай бұрын
LOVE LOVE LOVE THIS EPISODE!!! Thanks Christina- you rock!
@david029014 8 ай бұрын
You are the best making these very detailed videos!
@sporkcrx 10 ай бұрын
Great video. I impulse bought a bike back during the Covid shortage that I learned might be too big, so it’s been a constant part swap and adjustments to make it fit better over the years. Awesome info
@pinkbike 10 ай бұрын
Exactly the person we were hoping to reach! We've all been there. Hope it's nearly perfect now -Christina
@IT-fr4wb 10 ай бұрын
Smart stuff! much appreciated, bin thinking for a while that I’m not getting enough positive tyre grip vibes back to me + what t heck can I do about it (experiment!)… thoughtful stuff/ well presented.
@lit3229 10 ай бұрын
Great job, first video I've seen that brings it all together.
@taxidermyboy 3 ай бұрын
I really enjoy these geometry videos. Also, really well explained with the examples!
@NATURALBORNSHREDDER 10 ай бұрын
I've tested 40, 50, 60mm stems and various bar widths. 50mm turned out to be a good compromise and enables front wheel awareness on a really slack bike. Narrower bars eased shoulder blade pain on hard compressions and reduced clipping trees allowing higher speed and more leaning. Wide bar and shorter stem is clip city on narrower trails. Best wrist pain reduction was from switching to a 12 degree back sweep, way stronger wrist alignment. Fat grips for sure. Dialing the cockpit is so important.
@benjy288 10 ай бұрын
I've also found bar height can quite easily effect front end grip especially on flatter corners, too high and there's not enough weight on the front, too low and there's too much weight on the front.
@michaelculhane3058 10 ай бұрын
You covered it. Great pace too. Thanks!
@Tequila628 10 ай бұрын
Christina is a treasure! Struggling with a 73° seat tube angle on a 2019 Enduro bike, never thought I could bring the saddle forward to compensate. However I really can't since having a saddle all the way back and a 50mm stem my XL Spectral is still a bit short for me.
@adrianhrusca4067 2 ай бұрын
Look for a longer frame xl bike. They are not all the same.
@CaptnBB 9 ай бұрын
I subbed because of this video. Excellent information and delivery.
@Speakerator 10 ай бұрын
perfect use of the tale to visualize position changes!
@rickweber2556 9 ай бұрын
This is an excellent comprehensive video!
@DevinDeVore 9 ай бұрын
Finally someone got the details right. Great job!!!!
@nickpye393 9 ай бұрын
Great rundown on this. Took me 2000+ miles to realise what a difference these components can make!
@miindthegaap 10 ай бұрын
Really helpful advice. Will review my bike setup.
@romanmeier76 9 ай бұрын
Wow, so good explaind! Thank you!
@wryanturner 10 ай бұрын
Great job! Sharing this with all my riding friends.
@pinkbike 10 ай бұрын
Cheers for that! Glad you enjoyed and see the benefit -Christina
@funke4u 4 ай бұрын
Christina, I pulled up this video and 4 others to watch and just "X-ed" out of the others, no need. You covered everything in detail with an amazing explanation of why. Thank you, you're awesome and yeah hope to see you on a trail one day. Be easy @PinkBike
@broadneydangerfield 4 ай бұрын
Agreed! Fantastic info for dialing in bike fit!
@Kordz79 9 ай бұрын
I changed my 70mm stem to 50mm and it changed my riding big time. Thanks!
@IanRamon 10 ай бұрын
very useful tips! and yes the best ideea is: TEST IT, experiment since everyone is unique. It is much easier to find what works when I understand some basic principles and then play with the variables.
@TheMirrorVision 10 ай бұрын
Great work with this video!
@bryanfulcher7162 10 ай бұрын
Great presentation, kudos👍
@greatdimitri1049 10 ай бұрын
Best Pinkbike video ever. Nice work. Thank you.
@pinkbike 10 ай бұрын
Cheers! Thanks so much, stoked you enjoyed it -Christina
@DaBinChe 3 күн бұрын
You are right, ergonomics and preference for everyone is different. I'm 5'6" (5'7" on a good day), 140lbs. butt naked with a 30" inseam. I prefer a 460 reach mostly. I like a 760mm short rise bars and shortest stem, usually 32mm, that'll fits with minimum stem spacers under stem. I use this same setup on XC, Trail, and Enduro. BB drop, crank length (prefer 155 but mainly use 165mm) and stack height difference between each type of bike will dictate grip to seat height difference which fits those specific type of bike/riding. Distance from saddle to bars is dictated by STA, HTA, seat rail, and bar sweep. I used to like shorter for playfulness but as I gotten older prefer longer more stable.
@avySeal 10 ай бұрын
What a great video. Videos like these are why I watch & subscribed to pinkbike. 😃🤙🏾
@pinkbike 10 ай бұрын
Thank you! Quite in-depth so I'm glad you gained something from this one -Christina
@frienduro24 10 ай бұрын
Yes! More Christina. Most riders are on frames too big. 👍
@pinkbike 10 ай бұрын
Thank you! -Christina
@blakekennard7700 10 ай бұрын
Wow this was an extremely helpful video. Best video about bike fit I have seen.
@pinkbike 10 ай бұрын
Thank you! I appreciate that a lot -Christina
@Northcraft87 10 ай бұрын
Really helpful, thank you so much!
@manfredveit2787 9 ай бұрын
By far the best explanation of handlebar and stem geometry. A must subscribe to this channel🍀
@jors800 4 ай бұрын
I completely agree with your video. I started mtb riding, three months ago at the age of 60. I am partially handicapped in my legs. The first month, my hand became completely numb. I was not comfortable sitting so forward leaning. I could not look backwards comfortably. Especially when I want to change a lane. I am a casual rider, all terrain, bust mostly urban. I purchased a 120mm high rize bar. I can adjust my weight forward by leaning the handlebar forward or banckwards. It has a 3° upper angle and a 9° rear angle. I am now so comfortable on the bike now. My hands don't go numb. I can look backwards comfortably. I am also unable to pedal standing due to my handicap. However, my pedalling is now more powerfull. I only noticed that I can go in wheely position easier on very steep hills. My pedalling is now more powerfull. I can outrun some younger people. Backpain and pains in my knees and legs are gone. I am a little more upright and can see better. The best choice I ever made. Total comfort.
@mrjamieholloway 9 ай бұрын
Thanks beautiful. Love the tips.
@cberg9480 10 ай бұрын
Wow great video. Every new biker needs to watch this
@pinkbike 10 ай бұрын
Cheers! -Christina
@edg5983 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video and greetings from Mexico
@ericcontreras8863 10 ай бұрын
Super informative video.
@DrPhillMTB 10 ай бұрын
Such a great video!
@nikolavidic7276 2 ай бұрын
We just did an experiment, used a 70mm rise bar with 5° upsweep and 12° backsweep. Combined with a 50mm stem. Rolled the bar 5° to completely eliminate the upsweep and the result was amazing! The bike felt so planted, comfortable, precise. Wrist pain was eliminated and shoulders were destressed. Bunny hops became easier, wheelies became easier and at the same time, it was easier to climb and remain in control on fast descents. Best of both worlds. Hands are further front but without the chest being hunched over the steerer tube. It was so weird but in a good way. Basically we got a bike version of Hondas NC750X
@alamramirez5721 10 ай бұрын
Great Information thank you.
@user-sz8ih9on9p 10 ай бұрын
3rd video I’ve seen by this presenter. Great info. She’s solid!
@keosoutdooradventures 10 ай бұрын
Great info! people still base a lot of these on info given in a article from 2005
@mtbboy1993 10 ай бұрын
First off, great stuff. You covered most of it. But here is some more info. 8:13 That bar was defenitly rotated too low. but I fond somewhere between the T rex position and more common position is what works best for me, flat to flatish brake levers, relaxed arms, hands resting on the grips. Aka Yoann Barelli setup. But tall enough handlebar and long enough reach is needed. But combine it's great. 10:55 For grip diameter I recommend to make a circle with thumb and index finger and measure the diameter, this will give the grip diameter that fits you. I measure at 34mm, so that's what i go for. I don't use the grip diameter to adjust the reach or brake feel. I adjust the brakes reach and that's it. But my current brakes don't have any other adjustments. But I like them grabby. A thing you forgot to mention is back sweep, people can have different hand grip angles, so get a bar that suits this, mine suit most bars, the 8, 9, 10 deg would work for me. But some need more.
@chimps4gimps 10 ай бұрын
Great vid. Ps. Those are some impressive guns Christina! 🔥🔥🔥👊🏼
@two2pedal289 10 ай бұрын
Tons of variables here. Adjusting bar roll also changes up sweep and back sweep which could negate the very angles you want.
@benjy288 10 ай бұрын
In regards to bar roll at 7:40 your wrists don't want to rotate around the bar, or feel like you have less to brace against when you roll the bar forward, because your hands aren't glued to the bar, they don't rotate with the bar like you did in the video, bar roll is mostly about getting the the angle of the bar feeling right.
@kmsbailey405 8 ай бұрын
Absolutely love my Deity black label bars. I run 760 though. I have them on my Commencal Tempo Öhlins Edition and it's amazing
@user-ob5tl4uq1f 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for your video🙂🙌
@andrefrederico162 2 ай бұрын
Interestingly enough, Trek and others keep pushing the bar-stem carbon combo with zero adjustment. Now the tutorial, super practical, thank guys.
@weepingBear 10 ай бұрын
this is the best informative video ever about cockpit setup! its so intense.
@pinkbike 10 ай бұрын
It really was intense haha thanks for appreciating that -Christina
@weepingBear 10 ай бұрын
@@pinkbike ow I can't believe you respond to me Christina! I got starstruck, I'm a big fan! woohoo!!!
@ARausch91 8 ай бұрын
Great Video. Thank you
@Cmc7799 10 ай бұрын
First time I’ve heard the term bar roll. I’ve always been very picky with that but never knew it had a name! Cool!
@Nefty_ 10 ай бұрын
This is soo accurate and interesting! Thank you for such quality content.
@pinkbike 10 ай бұрын
Cheers! it was a lot to fit into 1 video so I'm stoked you enjoyed it -Christina
@Nefty_ 10 ай бұрын
Yeah that’s amazing how many things there are to say only for the cockpit! Thanks again
@steveh485 5 ай бұрын
I just finished upgrading my 2014 SC Tallboy. New wider (800mm) higher rise bars, shorter stem, shorter cranks (165 mm now-size L) sliding the saddle back and installing a new 1x12 drivetrain. Oh and new brakes. Feels like a new bike.
@krazyjey 3 ай бұрын
Bought a DEITY bars , the riser alu...superbe and it did changed the quality and feel of the rides compared to the original one, and i don t feel my back hurting after 2 hours on the saddle . It is actually very good at damping the vibrations too. Definitely worth the money , that was hard to spend another $$$ in my bike, but now, i feel like i am riding the bike i want, The stem is tempting , but i feel like i can wait a bit to spend more in bling for not much more than looking good. My geometry and numbers are there , i think.
@maristamn 10 ай бұрын
Excellent! I love these geeky videos!👨🎓
@erinb4919 9 ай бұрын
Very educational!!
@lsugimoto8361 10 ай бұрын
Shorter stems and slightly taller bars are the future. Oh and flatter brake levers 😜
@douglasjohnstonbaugh1469 10 ай бұрын
On Point Video!
@Generali087 10 ай бұрын
Wow, what a fantastic video. Great content.
@pinkbike 10 ай бұрын
Cheers! Thanks for the positive feedback -Christina
@althe_chimp 10 ай бұрын
Very helpful!!!
@fonz185 9 ай бұрын
Great video thanks heaps
@rohankilby4499 10 ай бұрын
So good thanks heaps 🤙🏽
@ErrybodyGetTypsy 7 ай бұрын
Currently 70 hours through my 75 hour internet binge on bike geometry and bike fit. I wish I had found this video sooner, it would have saved me at least 30 hours! 😂
@robinmacandrew103 8 ай бұрын
Informative 🙏
@wernerprost6624 10 ай бұрын
So a good video ❤
@crestedbuttetrails3214 10 ай бұрын
Well thought out video. Would like to add one thing as a correct seat position is paramount for preventing knee injuries and maximizing your pedal stroke. You don't just move it willy nilly as that can cause issues. Thats first and foremost. Once that position is dialed then finding your correct bar/stem combo is a matter of everything stated in this video with regards to personal feel, riding style, terrain, etc.
@benjy288 10 ай бұрын
So what is the correct fore aft position? because it used to be hang a plumb bob from just below your knee and it should intersect the pedal axle, but now that seems to have gone out the window as manufacturers keep making their seat tube angles steeper.
@crestedbuttetrails3214 9 ай бұрын
@@benjy288 Yes, as a good rule of thumb, that is correct. There's a reason why the UCI has limits how far forward a seat can be. It can lend itself to knee issues. Find the soft spot behind your Patella and drop down to the center of the pedal axle. Knee bend should be around 10 degrees. You'll know if it's too high or low because there may be knee discomfort in the front(too low) or back(too high) of the knee. I think generally you can still achieve a correct seat position with most seat angles. XC and trail models are still a bit slacker and achievable but once you hit enduro bikes it could become an issue. Those bikes aren't really designed to climb anyway despite what reviewers say. I could be wrong but in order to achieve lower BB heights crank arms are also being shortened, resulting in diminished pedaling efficiency. All depends what you're looking for I suppose.
@benjy288 9 ай бұрын
@@crestedbuttetrails3214 I mentioned that to some sales guy in my local shop a while ago and he said that's long gone, lol, who knows, but I do know that when I try that on my current short travel trail bike which is only a few years old the line is more inline with the front of the pedal body, and its not to small for me either, its a large and I'm 5'10, so it seems manufacturers have abandoned that principle.
@johncuarto 9 ай бұрын
nice content. and no ads in the middle.
@believe8263 10 ай бұрын
The best improvement I ever made was going to Pro Taper A76 riser bars. My MTB feels more like my motocross bike and OTB accidents never happen anymore. Everyone that rides my bike wants to switch their bars afterwards.
@thepedalsadvocate7389 10 ай бұрын
Love this.
@Aeysir 10 ай бұрын
Every time I ride, the song of my knees always reminds me of that excellent film quote: "RIPLEY!! YOU'VE BLOWN THE TRANSAXLE! YOU'RE JUST GRINDING METAL!"
@thedude9625 2 ай бұрын
One of the best movies!
@MiroMuller211 16 күн бұрын
Thank you
@abtcup 10 ай бұрын
When it comes to saddle setback...you can only move it so far back...or forward before it messes with your pedaling position. For me its the feel is my knees. Too far forward or back...I can feel the strain on my knees.
@janeblogs324 10 ай бұрын
2:12 most beautiful shot all year!
@pinkbike 10 ай бұрын
HA! The jiggly arms? Thanks -Christina
@tmayberry7559 5 ай бұрын
That was a LOT of information.
@robertmyke4132 10 ай бұрын
Christina you cut your hair! You make the best instructional videos!
@cornishcactus 10 ай бұрын
swapped my stock 50mm stem for a 35 3 years ago as I felt like I was being pulled too far over the bars on steep stuff. after a wrist injury I carried on with the 35 but felt I needed the extra leverage of the 50 back on to take some of the force out and changed back a month ago. but having done that the front now feels odd at times, some of the intuitive steering has gone, I'm going wide on turns, I thought by now I'd be used to the stock stem again but it seems not, I also now lack some mobility in the wrist so maybe I can't throw the extra lever around.
@alexarmstrong1134 10 ай бұрын
Great video Interested in your opinion on Bar Sweep❓
@pinkbike 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the kind words! Bar sweep.. loads of it can make the cockpit feel smaller which can be a bonus for some folks and help keep the chest higher when pedalling but I don't personally run a load of sweep on any bars -Christina
@thecakeisalie7070 10 ай бұрын
The width of handlebar also seems to affect how well you can gap drop. Too wide a bar and we lose the body-bike separation. Too narrow a bar and we're too separated from the bike. I wonder what a suspension kinematics engineers would say about bar width to arm "linkage" ratios 🤔
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