The Oathbreakers (A Song of Ice and Fire)

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Some lore and backstory on the kingsguard that broke their oaths
From Kingslayer Jaime Lannister, to the Hound, to Criston Cole
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@debamlyabanerjee4067 Жыл бұрын

Ser criston break his oath but he was still ownereble he wanted to marry rhaynara because he claimed her maddinhed but rhanyra seduced him and wanted him to be her paramore. i she rhanyra has gult then criston and for Joffrey lonnmouth he blackmailed criston so he did nothing wrong by killing. Rhanyras heirs are bastards that's why he named aegon as king.

@danielvezina5521 Жыл бұрын

From a Wiki of Ice and Fire " The knights of the Kingsguard are forbidden to marry, father children, and to hold land." Like Sam said, there's no mention about...

@DayzHacksful Жыл бұрын

Please add chapters. I understand money is to be made but not everyone wants to guess click.

@andrewcody2181 Жыл бұрын

Should do a detailed video on sellswords companies and/or soldier slave groups

@RankChoiceVoting Жыл бұрын

Literally everyone in the rebellion was an oathbreaker. At the last minute even Tywin was an oathbreaker. This is why Jamie has no chill. The hypocrisy melted his knightly brain.

@thalmoragent9344 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I feel he made a decent point when he talked about the fact that some Oaths were hard to keep when under such a circumstance I mean, with a king like Aerys, or Maegor or Aegon the Unworthy, you've got to consider what "serving" them entails. Jamie obeyed more Oaths than he broke the day that he killed Aerys.

@SpecialNeedsMuffin Жыл бұрын

Ironically Jamie did the most knightly thing in saving hundreds of thousands of people by killing the Mad King

@jaieregilmore971 Жыл бұрын

@@SpecialNeedsMuffin I like the quote from Sonic and the black Knight “Isn’t being a knight more important than serving some king?” Honestly even without the king a knight still have a duty to protect the people of kingdom and killing the mad king is justified.

@jonathanbell6384 Жыл бұрын

That's kinda the point of a rebellion isn't it?

@hellohowareyou7495 Жыл бұрын

I don't think ned did any oathbreaking. he haven't pledge his allegiance to aerys at that point, his father have and his father is dead, after his father dead ned immediately rebelled before pledging any allegiance or oath to aerys

@ViewTube_Emperor_of_Mankind Жыл бұрын

Jamies real failure was not to protect Rhaegars wife and children.. seeing his fathers army approach and having killed Aeris.. that should've been his place.. instead of sitting on that stupid chair..

@usaclaimsthemoon4198 Жыл бұрын

Never thought of that, but that’s a brilliant point

@Brandonhayhew Жыл бұрын

@@usaclaimsthemoon4198 this is not brilliant, Jaime saved everyone from that crazy king who wanted to burn that city. This whole Jaime Situation is bs, what’s the point of being a knight, is just nonsense. Knights are just soldiers that follows orders that’s all, they even follows orders that is nonsense. A low born can be a better knight like Duncan and egg. Knighthood is a BS as medieval churches

@usaclaimsthemoon4198 Жыл бұрын

@@Brandonhayhew huh? So Jaime shouldn’t have saved Rhaegers children? You’re not going to convince me of that If you want to argue that knights are BS, sure. Technically everything is BS in a fictional book lol

@jmpabd872 Жыл бұрын

@@usaclaimsthemoon4198 He should've saved or tried to save them(I'm pretty sure he couldn't have saved them).. But can you blame him for not trying.. He just killed the king he had sworn to protect and just became a Kingslayer, losing his honor and realisation of how people are going to see him is a little too much to process

@ShamblesMD Жыл бұрын

Do you mean Elia or Lyanna? Because if it's the former, he wasn't going to be able to help at all, and if it's the latter, that's because Rhaegar ordered his top 3 loyalist kingsguard to guard the Tower of Joy sans Selmy who went with him. So someone had to guard the king and Jamie was the best choice because Rhaegar knew Tywin would come defend the Keep. Which would've happened had he survived.

@ItIsWhatItIs78174 Жыл бұрын

I actually felt a little bad for Jamie. He sacrificed what little honor he had to save an entire town and yet he gets called a King Slayer for it

@niksutliff Жыл бұрын

Meanwhile the people whose war led to the butchery and slaughter thousands probably tens of thousands, they're heroic. Very cool setup by George with the twist that maybe Jaime is the most honorable there is

@hellohowareyou7495 Жыл бұрын

and then in season 8 he forgot he cares about the innocent

@thalmoragent9344 Жыл бұрын

@@niksutliff Well, don't get too far ahead now, Jamie has still done other dishonorable things, like fathering bastards under his King as well as the incest with Cersei that would've only been OK for the likes of the Valyrians, not the First Men or Andals And that's just the bare minimum, especially since he's a Kingsguard

@saxogatley1166 Жыл бұрын

@@thalmoragent9344Love is a hell of a drug. Though I do think Jaime isn’t a good guy. He’s got some good in him, and a sense of right and wrong. That alone is far more than many characters. But his primary motivation is always his reputation. He constantly thinks about how he looks and about how others think of him.

@NANINANI-cs6rn Жыл бұрын

@@niksutliff that's why I think jaime's the best kingsguard ever, the only who killed his king for the sake of the people

@rickyclark9754 Жыл бұрын

The hound will forever be a legend for that

@JoshuaHenelyThornhill Жыл бұрын

Jamie and the Hound are very fascinating characters and it’s mainly due to their oathbreaking but Criston, as a show only, felt like such a petty little boy who got mad about the girl he liked. His actor really played the hell out of that cuz the dude was really likeable in the first part. That give him nuances even though I would’ve loved to see him fight more in the show.

@shesokayiguess Жыл бұрын

For real, I really liked the character and kinda got spoiled about what was gonna happen and couldn't imagine not liking him, but now I hate the character lol

@jakealter5504 Жыл бұрын

Cole was like that in the book as well

@markvalenzuela5414 9 ай бұрын

You’ll see him fight more don’t worry

@HOEAHHNIGGAS 2 ай бұрын

Petty ? Nah this is a huge deal The rape victim criston still Rightfully Hates rhaenyra Because Rhaenyra Wanted To Continue Using Him For Sex After Already Ruining The Thing He Put His Entire Self Worth Into She Wanted To Continue Their Affair Despite Knowing The Dangers A Kings Guard Could Face & It Made Criston Realize That She Never Loved or Cared About Him & Was Just Using Him To Please Herself & Playing With His Life.

@HOEAHHNIGGAS 2 ай бұрын

@@shesokayiguess The rape victim criston still Rightfully Hates rhaenyra Because Rhaenyra Wanted To Continue Using Him For Sex After Already Ruining The Thing He Put His Entire Self Worth Into She Wanted To Continue Their Affair Despite Knowing The Dangers A Kings Guard Could Face & It Made Criston Realize That She Never Loved or Cared About Him & Was Just Using Him To Please Herself & Playing With His Life.

@danielsantiagourtado3430 Жыл бұрын

A very interesting view on the kingsguard, with each generation the breaking of vows gets worse and worse.

@Prophetofthe8thLegion Жыл бұрын

So…ALL OF THEM???

@SantomPh Жыл бұрын

it is unexpected for someone in such a position of power to be clinging to a vow of poverty and humility, especially as they are normally linked to the Hand or some other person in power. The best knights to wear the white such as Aemon the Dragonknight, Barristan Selmy and Arthur Dayne were rare cases, not the general rule. Some like Harald Westerling lived to the end of their days without doing much (he died of old age in the book) but staying loyal.

@johnknott4443 Жыл бұрын

Jamie's true crime was failing to protect the princess and her children.

@coldhands2802 Жыл бұрын

From the mountain at his father's orders? Lol good luck

@AaronGuest Жыл бұрын

@@coldhands2802 You say that as if Jamie wouldn't completely destroy the mountain.

@runtergerutscht4401 Жыл бұрын

@@AaronGuest all the mountain has to do is sit on Jaime.

@AaronGuest Жыл бұрын

@@runtergerutscht4401 Sure jan.

@runtergerutscht4401 Жыл бұрын

@@AaronGuest by all means, tell me about all the things Jaime can do when the mountain sits down on him. Remember this is the man who crushed a smull with raw power.

@Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation Жыл бұрын

Personally I'm an oatbreaker. But only during breakfast.

@invincibleluis Жыл бұрын

Criston Cole in the books is a beast.

@lightning8820 Жыл бұрын

so as Otto and Alicent!

@alfie8784 Жыл бұрын

I like Cristin but he felt so petty in the show

@joaquinjoaquin3992 Жыл бұрын

The show massacred our boy

@sydnitheromantictaylor112 Жыл бұрын

He's also a beast in the show, he's an awesome fighter.

@thalmoragent9344 Жыл бұрын

Yep, even Jamie admitted he was lile, the best and the worst of the Kingsguard. He was a helluva fighter.

@Rex73777 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, Jamies the biggest one. The primary oath he swore was to protect the king and he ended up killing him, so yeah 😂

@jakealter5504 Жыл бұрын

And by breaking his oath he saved a city of 500,000+ people

@atari_black8113 Жыл бұрын

Good job avoiding HOT D spoilers, now i can share this with my show only friends.

@Guinnessdrnkr1234 Жыл бұрын

Be a good friend and buy them the books.

@Woeforthetrees Жыл бұрын

The house crests in the blood at 3:30 is such a cool little detail.

@RekoSxQ Жыл бұрын

Nice

@daddy_1453 Жыл бұрын

Jamie was a fool for not telling the world his reasoning. It's literally free propaganda for the new regime to further legitimise itself and a way for Jamie to get his story out. A win-win.

@panos617 Жыл бұрын

Moral of those Stories : Never took Oaths if you can't keep them.

@thalmoragent9344 Жыл бұрын

Next is a list of people who've specific "High Treason" against some Lords or the Crown. That'll be fun 😅.

@samiam1059 Жыл бұрын

Battle of rook's rest gonna be epic.

@mistmanjones3555 Жыл бұрын

And the Storming of the Dragonpit is gonna be 🔥

@saisreenivasp1709 Жыл бұрын

Kingslayer,Oathbreaker,Man without honour and my favourite character Jaime lannister 🦁, By what right the wolf judge a lion.

@joaquinjoaquin3992 Жыл бұрын

"The man with shit for honour" cant remember who said that about him but its on the books 🤣

@Brandonhayhew Жыл бұрын

Jaime is an idiot but smart. His too much ego like his dad. His no where near like his dad smart. Why did he even release his brother that got his dad killed?

@emperor002002 Жыл бұрын

That's why Perturabo The Lord of Iron decided to have his iron circle of robots. Because according to him people were unreliable and untrustworthy.

@runtergerutscht4401 Жыл бұрын

After or before he proved himself untrustworthy by betraying the emperor?

@emperor002002 Жыл бұрын

@@runtergerutscht4401 Meh either or. For him at no point would that matter. Still beat Dorn twice. 😆

@Filippo6264 Жыл бұрын

I've finally finished to retrieve all of your videos. A really fun ride

@Void7.4.14 Жыл бұрын

It's an incredibly interesting look at how irrational morality (and to a significant degree, ideology) can be and how authoritarian, reactionary, superstitious cultures and systems will always lead to conflict, as well as how internal conflict so easily spills out into the world. A commonly held culture with ethics arrived at through logical processes within a participatory system of self-governance in daily things and economics, or anarchism/libertarian socialism, is the antidote 💯

@justinjones9579 Жыл бұрын

I don't feel like Bolton gets the attention from fans as not only an oath breaker but a king slayer

@Colin-um5tz Жыл бұрын

Yay more GOT lore videos

@DarkKing009 2 ай бұрын

RIP Ser Criston Cole the Kingmaker. My favorite psychopathic peacock and one of the deadliest Knights of his time.

@shoyupacket5572 Жыл бұрын

the problem with oaths is that situations change. you only have one life to give and some of us rather not waste the rest of it just because of some silly words we said.

@ice843 Жыл бұрын

Perhaps the point was to make your words meaningful rather than just empty boasts An oath is basically a contract that if you break your a scumbag

@shoyupacket5572 Жыл бұрын

Words are wind, phrase gets repeated like a hundred times in the books and it's completely true. Being a scumbag only matters to people until it doesn't, and power is more important.

@ice843 Жыл бұрын

@@shoyupacket5572 eh we shall see lying and cheating might achieve short term gains ie house Lannister but in the long run we shall see if they keep it Also just in general power is generally in the hands of those who speak sparingly weighing every word blustering fools have very little power Ie tormund Mace Tyrell Great John umber may be the exception that proves the rule How many times can you break your oath before no one will take you seriously

@shoyupacket5572 Жыл бұрын

@@ice843 that's the thing obviously there are consequences, i.e. people call Jaime Kingslayer as a title before anything else even Lord Commander. My point really is that every moment is a chance for fate and you could be sworn to someone strong and honorable or you could be sworn to someone weak and cowardly, in either case there are opportunities to break oaths depending on what the individual may deem most important. For some power is most important, for others they would break their oath to protect the innocent if given immoral orders.

@RoguePlanett Жыл бұрын

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@indigomoraes7105 Жыл бұрын

you could do a video on the different hand of the kings.

@daemontargaryen5636 Жыл бұрын

Video ends rather abruptly but i enjoyed it thanks for the content

@DarkKing009 2 ай бұрын

“Treason…is only a word. When two princes fight for a chair where only one may sit, great lords and common men alike must choose. And when the battle’s done, the victors will be hailed as loyal men and true, whilst those who were defeated will be known forevermore as rebels and traitors. That was my fate.”

@SHARKVADERS Жыл бұрын

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@chaoskiller321choas3 Жыл бұрын

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@ronnie5340 Жыл бұрын

Love the vid ideas

@nickdentoom1173 11 ай бұрын

Well... you have included the Kingsguard. Why not the Queens Guard as well... Jorah is also an Oathbreaker. So are the Cargyll brothers

@rexblade504 Жыл бұрын

Why didn't Jaime tell anyone why he killwd the mad king? Seems like that could solve the issue

@jakealter5504 Жыл бұрын

He felt that no one would believe him and he was kinda in shock

@CSelH Жыл бұрын

Ah Kingsguard, nothing like politics, nepotism, and spite to turn a a position of merit into a tool of politicians. I would have liked to a see a kins of praetorian guard things at some point where the actually determine who gets the crown.

@CrackingCody Жыл бұрын

Psh can you really commit "treason" against the crown when the sitting "king" isn't the rightful king?

@SantomPh Жыл бұрын

it's perspective. The Thirteen Colonies were rebels against the British monarch, but the Confederates were rebels against the Union, Simon Bolivar made rebels out of virtually every Spanish colony in south America. Treason is subjective to many.

@T.GLongstaff 3 ай бұрын

Why did Tywin ask Robert to keep Jamie on as a kingsguard?? He didn’t want Jamie in the kingsguard later in the story so why would he want him in it directly after the war? Plothole

@michaelevans3904 Жыл бұрын

When did the hound take an oath. He despised knights.

@texiannationalist Жыл бұрын

Probably when he was appointed to the Kingsguard.

@zillagrilla315 Жыл бұрын

@@texiannationalist You mean Joffrey's personal bodyguard. Sandor was never an actual Kingsguard.

@Kopfschuss87 Жыл бұрын

@@zillagrilla315 he was made a kingsguard after Joffrey dismissed Barristan Sandor was the first and only kingsguard who wasn't a knight

@coldhands2802 Жыл бұрын

@@zillagrilla315 He wore the white cloak. He was kings guard.

@Brandonhayhew Жыл бұрын

@@coldhands2802 yet he seems like a worthy knight and have like virtues of knighthood but his just a soldier. Knights are just soldiers but more financial and have more equipments. Being a knight is just a waste of time and financial

@mrscaryfox3955 Жыл бұрын

Why no chapters 😢

@equusquaggaquagga536 Жыл бұрын

Everyone in Westeros breaks oaths Sworn swords swear to obey but masters also swear to not make their servants do anything dishonorable

@Karmaswrld Жыл бұрын

“The ones in the back” what you mean by that 🤔

@DarkKing009 2 ай бұрын

Ser Rickard Thorne was the best Kingsguard: Tragedy At Bitterbridge

@bclr6843 Жыл бұрын

I think Jamie is the considered the worst only because everyone doesn’t know the truth (obviously) But also time. All these others are in history. Jamie Lannister walks among the living. Every time you see him you think of what he did. The others are all dead and gone. Time healed their wounds but Jamie killed the mad king with the very hand he lost

@daidaloscz3477 Жыл бұрын

My conspiration theory is that George actually has both books finished and ready, and they will only be released after he passes away. One last big schocking twist and surprise from George. And maybe also so he doesnt have to put up with the unconfirmed theories

@nickdentoom1173 11 ай бұрын

Nah, i don't think they are ready yet. I do however think he works on both of them at the same time to knot all the ties together. I also think he already has completed the ending.

@ddddddttg Жыл бұрын

Jon Snow too

@magnusthered4973 Жыл бұрын

Jon snow isn’t a kingsgaurd

@ddddddttg Жыл бұрын

@@magnusthered4973 he broke a vow of the night's watch

@magnusthered4973 Жыл бұрын

@@ddddddttg I know but this video is about the kingsgaurd not nights watch

@finlayames6216 Жыл бұрын

Like a lot of kings guard, a lot of nights watch broke their vows around not having sex.

@asiblingproduction Жыл бұрын

@@finlayames6216 their vow isn’t not having sex, it’s not getting married or fathering children. Details, details.

@_CrissoN Жыл бұрын

That's Beyonce at 7:00

@leviandhisbae7375 Жыл бұрын

Did you hear they are making a sequel for Jon Snow? After fucking up season 8.

@DLR1997 Жыл бұрын

We all knew

@leviandhisbae7375 Жыл бұрын

@@DLR1997 My guess was they'd try to save their asses with the "Star" of the show in the end. Especially after realizing they kinda ruined their money-maker by destroying season 8 out of pure arrogance. And I don't know, but I'm gonna say House of the Dragon was not as successful as GoT, which was what they were hoping for.

@DLR1997 Жыл бұрын

@@leviandhisbae7375 that's what I feel as well. Hell if they had some of the book only characters like Val or Young Griff etc. It might have lessen the blow.

@redluke8119 Жыл бұрын

Love the content comment for the comment throne

@Brandonhayhew Жыл бұрын

The kingsguards are a failure and shows us that the best knights are useless. They failed to protect the monarch. The kings guards should been abolished

@SantomPh Жыл бұрын

most Targaryen rulers died natural/ accidental deaths so the KG arguably did its job. The only rulers to die by assassination/murder were Rheanyra, Aegon II, Daeron I and Aerys II. Of these only Aegon II actually had their Kingsguard present when they died and of course he was killed by him. Maekar is the only Targaryen king to die in battle, strangely enough.

@Brandonhayhew Жыл бұрын

@@SantomPh to be honest: the Romans eventually replaced the Pretoria guards with Germans as bodyguards. It’s like the Eastern Romans made Varangian guards as bodyguards. I think a Targaryens should consider getting foreign soldiers as bodyguards because the kings guards kinda are a fiasco

@bradkempton7905 Жыл бұрын

It's obviously hypocritical to call Jaime the "worst" oathbreaker. However, I can see why he's deemed as such. He didn't just break every path he took. He also committed the worst possible crime in a kingdom when he killed "the mad king." Regencide has throughout history been the ultimate crime that demanded the ultimate punishment. The books may be fiction, but they're based on medieval England and Europe. It didn't matter how evil or hated the king was. A king was a king and anointed by God himself, so killing one was an act against God. Now, add on the fact Jamie took the vows of a Kingsguard and broke every sacred vow he took on top of killing the king, I can understand and even agree to a certain point with him being considered the worst oathbreaker of all time. ESPECIALLY since everybody knew of all his sins and broken vows. Don't get me wrong, I understand and agree with why Jaime killed the mad king, and he was obviously manipulated by Cersei. Unfortunately, that doesn't change the fact that he did everything he has done.

@ThighErda Жыл бұрын

guh

@luvprue1 Жыл бұрын

Does the king guard have to take a vow of celibacy? Because I checked the Kings guard oath, and all it said is that they should held no land, take no wife, and father no children.

@SantomPh Жыл бұрын

that's what it implies, since nobles shouldn't be going round visiting brothels or having hookups with random women. We know that is not really the case, but they cannot be seen to be in a relationship with anyone. If even Tywin Lannister (a knighted man himself) can indulge in the odd excursion, pretty sure the KG do as well. Someone like Barristan Selmy or Aemon the Dragonknight would take the vow to heart and dedicate themselves to practicing swordfighting and horse riding instead of indulging in the fleshy delights. Even Ser Loras Tyrell, the shiny Tyell flower lad who loves stags throws himself into the assault that eventually wins the crown Dragonstone, getting grave wounds in the process. Then we have the likes of Jaime, Prince Lewyn and the aforementioned knight who had several wives. one big gap is not in the literature- how did Daeron II's Kingsguard fare in the Blackfyre Rebellion? did they stay loyal? did they join Daemon Blackfyre? Were they Aegon IV's kingsguard?

@davidspooner4582 Жыл бұрын

Not sure what they were trying to do with Crispin but he literally breaks his oath and blames Rhayenera

@thegoat4238 Жыл бұрын

@@equusquaggaquagga536 grown ass man lmao can’t blame shit on her

@jakealter5504 Жыл бұрын

@@thegoat4238 he did something similar in Fire & Blood

@HOEAHHNIGGAS 2 ай бұрын

The rape victim criston still Rightfully Hates rhaenyra Because Rhaenyra Wanted To Continue Using Him For Sex After Already Ruining The Thing He Put His Entire Self Worth Into She Wanted To Continue Their Affair Despite Knowing The Dangers A Kings Guard Could Face & It Made Criston Realize That She Never Loved or Cared About Him & Was Just Using Him To Please Herself & Playing With His Life.

@HOEAHHNIGGAS 2 ай бұрын

@@thegoat4238 She was 18 in episode 4(the episode where she sexually assaulted criston) Last time she was underage was episode 3!! She was 17 in episode 3 & episode 4 takes place a year later