Wild Claims in the Oxford Vegan Debate vs The Science

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Mic the Vegan

Mic the Vegan

4 ай бұрын

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My reaction to the anti-vegan arguments by unhinged Katie Hopkins and other more coherent debaters.
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@MrEroshan
@MrEroshan 4 ай бұрын
What a joke, I'm a soy boy just turned 70 y.o. and my testosterone last month was 720. By the averages that puts me between 20 and 30 y.o..
@raycooper5132
@raycooper5132 4 ай бұрын
Same here, vegan for 12 years testosterone off the charts!
@SSStofu008
@SSStofu008 4 ай бұрын
Anti-vegans: But…..but… ISOFLAVUMSXJSHEVFJC 🥺🥺🥺😢😢😔( ignore the mammalian estrogen in dairy)
@hardcoreherbivore4730
@hardcoreherbivore4730 4 ай бұрын
@@raycooper5132There likely something wrong with the charts, as so many men are consuming cows milk every morning. 😁
@tiesiai_per_aplinkui
@tiesiai_per_aplinkui 4 ай бұрын
Wow that is amazing! 😮
@contact2001
@contact2001 4 ай бұрын
Same for me vegan around 5 years now, my doc keeps asking me if I supplement testosterone 😂😂😂 at 54 it’s always slightly above the max normal…
@ImaJunkyoBell
@ImaJunkyoBell 4 ай бұрын
This qualifies as "rational debate" at a prestigious university? Sounds more like crowd-pleasing and grand-standing with no discussion of science or philosophy.
@axx9149
@axx9149 4 ай бұрын
I’m from the UK. Standards have been slipping for decades. This is the result.
@bengilkes7676
@bengilkes7676 4 ай бұрын
It used to be that priveledged people got opportunities but still had to prove themselves. Now they can behave like this and still get the important jobs with responsibility that need knowledge and intelligence - why do you think the world has gone to sh!t. Look at how doctors have behaved in the past few years for example. Everything is bought and paid for.
@perijon00
@perijon00 4 ай бұрын
Well yea there’s an agenda being pushed here and an actual person privy in the research and knowledge wouldn’t be welcome because they would make to much sense
@richardlinares6314
@richardlinares6314 4 ай бұрын
That's mainly true for Katie Hopkins. Everyone else was fine. But I googled her and saw she was at another one of these debates. So I assume they invite her to get more press/clicks?
@Fallenangel_85
@Fallenangel_85 25 күн бұрын
Yeah, I have no clue why they invited Katie Hopkins to this, she is notorious for empty populist rhetoric.
@sirlcl4010
@sirlcl4010 4 ай бұрын
Katie Hopkins is very well known in the UK media, she is known for doing and saying things just to get attention. I wouldn't take her too seriously.
@somebody553
@somebody553 4 ай бұрын
She is feeling herself so much while giving the most stupid speech. Very "own the vegans" behavior while orgasming from her own dumb jokes! She must think she's Christopher Hitchens incarnate or something 😂 so pathetic
@NiranjanBendre
@NiranjanBendre 4 ай бұрын
Saw her Wikipedia page. Full of controversies the most I have seen.
@NonchalantWalrusParty
@NonchalantWalrusParty 4 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, a lot of people actually do take her seriously.
@sparky9839
@sparky9839 4 ай бұрын
What an idiot 🙄
@dragonofhatefulretribution9041
@dragonofhatefulretribution9041 4 ай бұрын
She’s absolutely spot-on about 99% of what she says, including the Kalergi Plan and European replacement agenda, Islamic rape-gangs, the islamification of Europe, and the fact that veganism de-masculinises men and destroys their member. Even vegan men are very open about this. Mic clearly just objecteth too much!
@j.burton5220
@j.burton5220 4 ай бұрын
Lol. Wow. If I was a meat eater, I wouldn't want her arguing my cause. Or any cause, actually.
@ValseInstrumentalist
@ValseInstrumentalist 4 ай бұрын
Why couldn't a debate moderator have asked Katie to please constrain her debate points to cogent arguments, and not an endless barage of hyperbole and awkward attempts at comedy? One would think Oxford would have higher standards.
@pattheplanter
@pattheplanter 4 ай бұрын
Oxford Union not Oxford University. All they do are debates. They expect the audience of intelligent, critical thinkers to be able to spot the bad debaters like Hopkins. The point is to be good at debate and to bring a strong argument, not to be a cringe-inducing insult-machine. Hopkins chose to alienate the entire audience. The results of this debate show that they did ignore the poor debaters. 112 to 84 voted in favour of "This House Would Go Vegan".
@ValseInstrumentalist
@ValseInstrumentalist 4 ай бұрын
@@pattheplanter Ooh, my mistake. I should watch the whole thing.
@tigerlilly3727
@tigerlilly3727 4 ай бұрын
"youve had too much to drink madam, please go home"
@NonchalantWalrusParty
@NonchalantWalrusParty 4 ай бұрын
The girl cringe laughing in the background is my spirit animal
@Ronniezim
@Ronniezim 4 ай бұрын
I would not have made it through the video without her!
@MrTomr316
@MrTomr316 4 ай бұрын
As someone from England I feel must apologise for Katie Hopkins.
@32starsandsugar
@32starsandsugar 4 ай бұрын
Thanks
@jayeshpatel9854
@jayeshpatel9854 3 ай бұрын
Thanks, but you don't have to apologize for the obnoxious people that happen to be from the same country as you. Every country has its Katie Hopkins (plural). Sadly, they are all too common.
@user-ey8jz1zr2b
@user-ey8jz1zr2b 2 ай бұрын
@@jayeshpatel9854there are quite a lot of annoying outspoken English ones though. It’s because if they have a posh accent we give them the podium. Think Piers Morgan, Nigel Farage, Laurence Fox. They’re not famous globally but a lot of right wing outlets let them talk.
@TrappedInTheMeatrix
@TrappedInTheMeatrix 4 ай бұрын
My member was already smaller before I went vegan so take that Katie!!! Wait....
@dohpam1ne
@dohpam1ne 4 ай бұрын
I'm not entirely sure Katie Hopkins isn't secretly a vegan trying to make veganism look good
@jsblastoff
@jsblastoff 4 ай бұрын
It’s so hilariously extreme it does feel like satire
@milenaantoska233
@milenaantoska233 4 ай бұрын
​@@jsblastoffI completely agree 🤣
@richardlinares6314
@richardlinares6314 4 ай бұрын
Hah, I don't know about that. But I was thinking she was such an idiot she helped the vegan argument. Still disappointing she got such big applause at the end. Maybe they agreed with you that she was some Stephen Colbert-esque character?
@booklassygarrahan3929
@booklassygarrahan3929 3 ай бұрын
I wondered if she was taking herself seriously.
@DanValentineFilms
@DanValentineFilms 4 ай бұрын
Day 5 of being vegan: I am shrivelling away due to starvation. All I do is suck on quinoa and locusts. I was 6'1" but I lose an inch of height (on both ends) every day. My hip bones have shattered due to a lack of cows' milk. My life is miserable. I have no friends. Hahaha, nope. It's year 5 and I just received blood test results. Healthy levels in everything related to nutrition. But even if my specific experience wasn't as positive, the data are still clear that eating whole food plant based is generally the healthiest way to eat.
@Efrendo
@Efrendo 4 ай бұрын
"this FESTERING thing" [holds up a fresh cauliflower] 🤦‍♂
@stephss
@stephss 4 ай бұрын
Cauliflower Steaks are pretty tasty.
@pattheplanter
@pattheplanter 4 ай бұрын
Katie Hopkins had her hinges removed in 2006.
@peter5.056
@peter5.056 4 ай бұрын
These sorts of clownish theatrics are a massive turnoff to me. The data is in, a diet of nearly 100% plants is best for health and the planet. There's as much a way around that fact, as there is to assert that the moon is made of cheese.
@bohditony
@bohditony 4 ай бұрын
Vegan side stuck to facts. Whereas the meat side has no problem lying as if there is no information available 😵‍💫.
@tomgoff7887
@tomgoff7887 4 ай бұрын
Taubes and Teichols made lying about these matters acceptable to that crowd. I ca only assume that they think that the end justifies the means ... although in thier case, the end was making lots of money.
@dragonofhatefulretribution9041
@dragonofhatefulretribution9041 4 ай бұрын
Lol veganism is all about emotions. Carnivory is all about logic and science. You use Marxist tactics and project your own actions onto your opposition.
@jelatinosa
@jelatinosa 4 ай бұрын
That girl basically said "there are studies that say the opposite of what I am telling you, but let's just ignore that because I don't like it."
@jmt__
@jmt__ 4 ай бұрын
Literally the other way around. Massive amounts of lies from the vegan fraudsters.
@jonstephenson5436
@jonstephenson5436 4 ай бұрын
Your cancer can be all sorts of stages, but once it’s “knackered” you’re really screwed! 😂
@user-wv8ju3dw8s
@user-wv8ju3dw8s 4 ай бұрын
I noticed that bit, too!!! 😂😂
@somebody553
@somebody553 4 ай бұрын
That quinoa argument is so stupid. Even if people are getting poorer, that's not a problem with veganism, it's a problem with people not getting compensated properly
@hardcoreherbivore4730
@hardcoreherbivore4730 4 ай бұрын
As a farmer, it makes little sense. When we do well, we buy things in our community. The community does better, and is thus more capable to help vulnerable people. With things like education and healthcare. Those communities encourage the export, and increase production, which brings down the price. Quinoa prices don’t just go up at a linear rate, it’s lumpy.
@user-no2mz9hl4f
@user-no2mz9hl4f 4 ай бұрын
Vegans also only make up roughly 2% of the global population. There simply aren’t enough of us to blame for something like this. Non-vegans buy and eat quinoa, too. Not to mention many other plant foods.
@sharonoflondon3365
@sharonoflondon3365 4 ай бұрын
Yes-empire and multinational corporate greed running amuck per normal (any country doing well, giving nice things to its ppl, nationalizing precious resources-well, there’s a place the CIA / NATO will need to check)
@panes840
@panes840 4 ай бұрын
"Watching animals suffer." So she agrees they do then!!
@veganjotaro
@veganjotaro 4 ай бұрын
I don't think I ever commented this, but I owe going fully plant based to your videos, all the info, the encouragement, the confidence, all you have done to help people go vegan it's working, thank you.
@JazCue90
@JazCue90 4 ай бұрын
We’re lucky to have him! 🤗😭
@hippieagathachristie
@hippieagathachristie 4 ай бұрын
I'm so glad this topic is getting acknowledgment from higher educational institutions. Thanks for your cheery disposition, Mic!
@catherinehoy5548
@catherinehoy5548 4 ай бұрын
f.y.i. - Oxford Union is not affiliated with Oxford University - students have to pay an exorbitant but reduced fee to join the Union and membership is open to anyone living in or near Oxford.
@pattheplanter
@pattheplanter 4 ай бұрын
The Oxford Union just like debating stuff. Anything, whatever.
@deepakhiranandani6488
@deepakhiranandani6488 4 ай бұрын
Yes, and cheery disposition is right. 👍
@HidingFromFate
@HidingFromFate 4 ай бұрын
​@@catherinehoy5548 Interesting, I had no idea. 😮. Makes more sense now why some of the debaters aren't up to the standard you would expect from a prestigious institution.
@mara3842
@mara3842 4 ай бұрын
I started watching this debate a few days ago and couldn't finish. My brain hurt from seeing all the mental gymnastics. Can't believe that came out of Oxford. It's just terrifying tbh.
@thebowandbullet
@thebowandbullet 4 ай бұрын
The problem with these Oxford "debates" against veganism is that they don't need/feel the need to be intellectually honest and scientifically accurate to win over the audience. All they have to do is encourage people not to change, no mater how many lies they tell to 'support' this. It would be interesting seeing someone actually *_try_* to debate veganism (actual veganism, not what they strawman it to be) with science for a change. I wonder why we never see that? 🙄
@rowenaanderson3739
@rowenaanderson3739 4 ай бұрын
My ex's member grew after he swapped from chicken, rice broccoli, sweet potato (daily, for years) to plant based meals. We noticed it separately so it was funny when the topic eventually came up.
@baganbobik9312
@baganbobik9312 4 ай бұрын
Maybe it just got harder
@403fruit
@403fruit 4 ай бұрын
Vegan for the peen gainz 😂 But for real, thanks for putting this together. Vegan for the animals, planet, and my health 👏🏼👏🏼
@dragonofhatefulretribution9041
@dragonofhatefulretribution9041 4 ай бұрын
Veganism for the animals, planet and your health…? Why the heck would you want to kill as many animals as possible, cause the most environmental and ecological damage as possible & ruin your health? Because that’s exactly what you’re doing by going vegan..
@danielswiss8197
@danielswiss8197 4 ай бұрын
Crazy aunt syndrome.
@kiwifeijoa
@kiwifeijoa 4 ай бұрын
Sigh, old women shaming yet again. More old women are vegan than old men.
@weirdunclebob
@weirdunclebob 4 ай бұрын
​@@kiwifeijoaCrazy uncle syndrome wouldn't fit although it's similar. This is not shaming the gender, just using the trope that 'everyone has a crazy relative who goes off on rants at gatherings'. Also, not all aunts are old so age is irrelevant.
@juliashearer7842
@juliashearer7842 4 ай бұрын
She is horrific. The best story about her is her losing a court battle against Jack Monroe. Well worth looking up.
@ChristianParkesArt
@ChristianParkesArt 4 ай бұрын
She's right about the Quackcine and Other things though
@bengilkes7676
@bengilkes7676 4 ай бұрын
@@ChristianParkesArt What on Earth is quackcine? Are you talking about Katie Hopkins? What are these "other things" that she is right about?
@dragonofhatefulretribution9041
@dragonofhatefulretribution9041 4 ай бұрын
@@bengilkes7676 She’s right about mass-immigration destroying the entirety of Europe. She’s right about the rape-gangs. She’s right about the feminisation of males via veganism.
@MedinaCliff
@MedinaCliff 4 ай бұрын
​@@ChristianParkesArt This woman knows her men She goes with the stone athletic meat eating types with huge woman satisfying members. Vegans with tiny weenies woman laugh at
@lucasbleyle5015
@lucasbleyle5015 4 ай бұрын
This felt like a bit not going to lie
@sectionalsofa
@sectionalsofa 4 ай бұрын
Of course it was! Sh'e's sincerely anti vegan but I'm embarrassed that her hyperbolic "points" , which were intended to be funny, are being debated here.
@kriswalker3275
@kriswalker3275 4 ай бұрын
Quinoa is one of the few grains non vegans are crazy about! It's high in protein and non gluten and low glycemic. Once it was pushed as a super good that ticks off all those boxes everyone wanted it
@granddaddyofthemall6320
@granddaddyofthemall6320 4 ай бұрын
Quinoa is not a good source of protein no plant is, quinoa is a slave, pauper, peasant food.
@tiesiai_per_aplinkui
@tiesiai_per_aplinkui 4 ай бұрын
8 years vegan, and just now I started including it in salads, I remember first time I tried it, it was disgusting 😂 now I start adding it in salads, but its nothing close to my main food source. I mainly eat, legumes, local grains, local veggies, and local fruits mostly.
@livavapa
@livavapa 4 ай бұрын
For real, I'm from South America, most avocado's and Quinoa are eated by meat eaters, just a person who haven't set foot in this continent would say that nonsense.
@nommh
@nommh 4 ай бұрын
Moreover, quinoa is grown in several european countries since 2017
@nanskiboutski243
@nanskiboutski243 3 ай бұрын
@@nommh And Canada
@teresasmith6028
@teresasmith6028 4 ай бұрын
Commenting here to promote the vegan message. 💚
@GS-lq2is
@GS-lq2is 4 ай бұрын
The drunk aunt is clearly just crazy, but the woman in green seemed to be serious, but made such unbelievably stupid arguments that I'm astonished she was able to get into Oxford.
@catherinehoy5548
@catherinehoy5548 4 ай бұрын
f.y.i. - Oxford Union is not affiliated with Oxford University - students have to pay an exorbitant but reduced fee to join the Union and membership is open to anyone living in or near Oxford.
@tamcon72
@tamcon72 4 ай бұрын
Don't many of the younger ones attend Oxford, or are recent grads of Oxford?
@catherinehoy5548
@catherinehoy5548 4 ай бұрын
@@tamcon72 yes, most young townies are too busy working to pay the lunatic rents in Oxford and those (ex-)students who do join are mostly from a certain socio-economic and ideological class or are seeking to hobnob and network. Few sensible normal people bother tbh
@northerncoloradotransparen1454
@northerncoloradotransparen1454 4 ай бұрын
The first step in recovery is admitting you have an addiction
@xb4439
@xb4439 4 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot. The game changers shows an experiment where a bean burger dinner significantly raised mascularity during the night. God bless!
@maxmontauk7281
@maxmontauk7281 4 ай бұрын
The Seven Deadly sins are NOT in the Bible - a prohibtion against lying is however in the Book of Exodus in the Old Testament
@bengilkes7676
@bengilkes7676 4 ай бұрын
Also "thoust shall not kill" IS in the bible.
@weirdunclebob
@weirdunclebob 4 ай бұрын
Actually, they're all mentioned in the bible but they're not called 'deadly' and they're not grouped together like this.
@barbaraibiel
@barbaraibiel 4 ай бұрын
Lifting Vegan Logic also did a couple of response videos to this.
@redkeyspoke
@redkeyspoke 4 ай бұрын
My first thought when coming across this was that she was pro-vegan and satirizing arguments against veganism. I know British sarcasm is maybe a bit different, but the only value in listening to this drivel is in gaining insight into the unvoiced fears meat eaters hold onto.
@Yayyyyyyyyyy
@Yayyyyyyyyyy 4 ай бұрын
0:31 she's so out of touch with reality
@byronmurphy1977
@byronmurphy1977 4 ай бұрын
We sent you Piers Morgan, you sent him back. We are going to send you Katie Hopkins, fingers crossed you keep her.
@tamcon72
@tamcon72 4 ай бұрын
Nooooooooooooooo!
@pyxlle
@pyxlle 4 ай бұрын
They're not sending their best 😔
@Yomanchamcru
@Yomanchamcru 4 ай бұрын
​@@pyxlleWe are, however, offloading some of our most frustrating when given the chance. Relax, I don't think she's going anywhere...
@GS-lq2is
@GS-lq2is 4 ай бұрын
lol, please no!!
@Pjvenom1985
@Pjvenom1985 4 ай бұрын
Nice video Mic, well done to all the benevolent speakers on the Vegan side.🌱🌅🍀
@stephss
@stephss 4 ай бұрын
She should be embarrassed... just wow.
@bengilkes7676
@bengilkes7676 4 ай бұрын
She normally behaves much worse.
@zachcain2639
@zachcain2639 4 ай бұрын
This was both hilarious and informative. Great video
@dragonofhatefulretribution9041
@dragonofhatefulretribution9041 4 ай бұрын
Is that an old photo of you from when you had pencil arms?
@barbaraibiel
@barbaraibiel 4 ай бұрын
Great job, Mike!
@julioandresgomez3201
@julioandresgomez3201 4 ай бұрын
It´s like ones were arguing me me me myself and I, others were arguing for something bigger than themselves.
@Meathead-10810
@Meathead-10810 4 ай бұрын
nah, vegans are just typical Karens
@jelatinosa
@jelatinosa 4 ай бұрын
​@@Meathead-10810lol, who were acting like "karens" in this video? Was it the vegans? I'm pretty sure the crazy karen was arguing against veganism here.
@Meathead-10810
@Meathead-10810 4 ай бұрын
@@jelatinosa That was a political comedian, the fact that you don't recognize that is a testament to my prior statement :)
@jelatinosa
@jelatinosa 4 ай бұрын
@@Meathead-10810 so, was she being satirical? It would make sense if so, but I get the feeling she actually believes what she is spouting. She can still be a Karen as a comedian 🤷🏽‍♀️ what's your point?
@Kayte...
@Kayte... 4 ай бұрын
Quinoa is popular among the gluten intolerant people, not necessarily vegans. Katie is definitely there for shock value, not facts. I wonder if her family is gringing in embarrassment.
@ryankreaps7300
@ryankreaps7300 4 ай бұрын
I just read an updated review on nutrition and bone health and there was a connection between increased saturated fat consumption and lower bone mineral density. Saturated fat caused the bone to lose calcium. That could be a potential mechanism and explanation
@dragonofhatefulretribution9041
@dragonofhatefulretribution9041 4 ай бұрын
Lmao definitely logical..👀 Explain the mechanism by which saturated fat consumption causes the bones to lose calcium🤣
@cazzawazzadingdong5139
@cazzawazzadingdong5139 4 ай бұрын
@@dragonofhatefulretribution9041 It took 2 minutes to find more than a dozen peer reviewed studies showing association on fat intake and bone mineralization. btw, Appeal to ridicule (laughing emoji) is an illogical fallacy. It's an overused tactic of control to discourage open communication between parties and is extremely deceptive. Those with any knowledge of psychology see through the manipulation (even if you don't and only use it as a result of a conditioned mindset). It not only doesn't add to your argument but makes you appear ignorant- especially when you don't even fact check first.
@Mllet3d
@Mllet3d 4 ай бұрын
So as she goes on to saying that she likes to eat the whole cow from nose to tail. As that would surely include the central nervous system tissue. Has anyone suggested that Katie Hopkins might have Mad Cows disease?
@tigerlilly3727
@tigerlilly3727 4 ай бұрын
it all makes sense now. kreuzfeldt katie
@presterjohn1697
@presterjohn1697 4 ай бұрын
Apparently Klaus Schwab want us to eat bugs (and) be vegan. LOL
@djae_dk
@djae_dk 4 ай бұрын
i am listening to this from my pocket and I hear "named Katie Hopkins" and I go "he.. couldnt mean... oh no no no."
@MichaelToub
@MichaelToub 4 ай бұрын
Great Video!!
@extropiantranshuman
@extropiantranshuman 4 ай бұрын
This is great - thanks!
@fenysnake
@fenysnake 4 ай бұрын
i believe she was a plant by the vegan side, listening to her made me want to go vegan.i didn't hear anything about antibiotics in farmed animals, maybe would've been brought up by the doc and i missed it .
@jsblastoff
@jsblastoff 4 ай бұрын
So good!! Thanks for the laughs!!!
@beanburrito8903
@beanburrito8903 4 ай бұрын
Thank you
@goldcat3512
@goldcat3512 4 ай бұрын
That lady is AnnOying..😩😖 Plus she is to lazy to read up on her own talking points🤨🤯🤣😂 This is so silly
@pattheplanter
@pattheplanter 4 ай бұрын
She didn't understand her job. The intelligent, educated audience expected a proper debate with well-crafted arguments, not a drunk sneering and trying to make funnies.
@detectiveMM
@detectiveMM 4 ай бұрын
Can you do a video on nutrients through different methods of cooking, especially microwaving? I see a constant debate, whether microwaving destroys them or not.
@MictheVegan
@MictheVegan 4 ай бұрын
I have mentioned this briefly but maybe I should do a whole video. Thanks!
@plantpoweredpedaller6264
@plantpoweredpedaller6264 4 ай бұрын
Dr Greger did a video about this some time ago. It actually showed that for some foods microwaving was preferable!
@detectiveMM
@detectiveMM 4 ай бұрын
@@plantpoweredpedaller6264 will look that up. This is exactly why I would like more info. I see conflicting views all the time. Thanks
@detectiveMM
@detectiveMM 4 ай бұрын
@@plantpoweredpedaller6264 actually just watched that video and it was pretty useless. Mostly Talked about ridiculous scenarios like dropping the microwave on your foot and eggs exploding, etc..
@plantpoweredpedaller6264
@plantpoweredpedaller6264 4 ай бұрын
@@detectiveMM kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sJeYpLGB0ZOmh6s.htmlsi=Rnvn2jJyzzvXtOmH
@jmc4975
@jmc4975 4 ай бұрын
Damn! She got me and the mrs with the short joke 🤣 She's an absolute joke. She thinks she's doing satire or something and just telling her side what she thinks they want to hear.
@mizz308
@mizz308 4 ай бұрын
So glad the vegans won. I hate that people try to make veganism a conservative vs liberal thing or a religious vs secular thing. Me personally my spiritual journey lead me to veganism even when I wasn’t sure if it was the healthiest. Also most our ancestors were plant based relying on plants is not a new progressive thing for humans. Not the most religious but the Bible also speaks about plant based eating or at least pescatarian including small oily fish. Saying God gave us every herb bearing seed upon the face of all the earth, and every fruit bearing tree. When honey is mentioned in the Bible they are speaking on Date Syrup not honey from a bee. The Bible also says to eat beans, lentils, wheat, Barley, millet, spelt.
@granddaddyofthemall6320
@granddaddyofthemall6320 4 ай бұрын
What is "spiritual"?
@mizz308
@mizz308 4 ай бұрын
@@granddaddyofthemall6320 none of your fucking business.
@mizz308
@mizz308 4 ай бұрын
@@granddaddyofthemall6320 “google it” ?
@granddaddyofthemall6320
@granddaddyofthemall6320 4 ай бұрын
So that's how "spiritual" people act when someone ask a simple question? You just let the whole word see how "spiritual" people are.
@mizz308
@mizz308 4 ай бұрын
@@granddaddyofthemall6320 I don’t represent “spiritual” people I said veganism was apart of MY spirituality. the question seemed disingenuous with the quotation marks and anybody who’s old enough to read my comment and respond back most likely knows what the word spiritual means. Any time I mention spirituality or anything related to God on KZfaq I get very negative responses I felt a ignorant response coming from you so I figure I’d beat you to it. If you really don’t know what the word spirituality means the definition is, “the quality of being concerned with the human spirit or soul as opposed to material or physical things.” A quick google search away.
@MMilar
@MMilar 4 ай бұрын
I wrote it there and I write it here. Kate is super funny! There is no way you can take this seriously! She just pushes out alll the cliches! If she was vegan we would all lough about it! It is as if she is making a stand for veganism by showing the absurdity of its critics!!!
@sectionalsofa
@sectionalsofa 4 ай бұрын
I lean more "vegan" than not (90 percent wfpb) and while I'm quite certain Kate is a heavy meat eater, I agree this was FUNNY and meant to be hyperbolic. I'm embarrassed that people are actually trying to refute her "arguments."
@barbaraibiel
@barbaraibiel 4 ай бұрын
I don't think that the woman in the green dress knows what the word ,"domestication", means.
@AmyKozerski
@AmyKozerski 4 ай бұрын
What, you mean there weren't a variety of Jersey, Holstein, and Angus breeds of Aurochs running around in the paleolithic? /s
@jelatinosa
@jelatinosa 4 ай бұрын
I noticed that too. Does she think farmed animals are undomesticated? Or does she think people simply hunt wild cows like they do dear or elk or whatever.
@barbaraibiel
@barbaraibiel 4 ай бұрын
@@jelatinosa I think she is confusing the word, "domesticated" with the word "domestic" as in "belonging or relating to the home, house, or family". That is why she said that we would take cows into our homes.
@angelolife
@angelolife 4 ай бұрын
She seems like she's trolling. Playing a caricature of extreme anti-vegan advocates.
@ddpwe5269
@ddpwe5269 4 ай бұрын
How can this qualify as a debate when nothing but lies are used? Surprised the votes weren't more vegan with how little real information was produced from the anti-vegan side.
@tigerlilly3727
@tigerlilly3727 4 ай бұрын
i thought that too. just goes to show the level of ignorance
@rebeccahinson1511
@rebeccahinson1511 4 ай бұрын
I hate myself because I’m plant based vegan?! Quite the opposite. It’s because I DO love myself and treat my body as a temple, not a morgue, that I’m vegan.
@extropiantranshuman
@extropiantranshuman 4 ай бұрын
veganism is really opening our eyes as to the 'intellectualism' happening on college campuses. What on earth is going on over at them? First yale with earthling ed, now oxford?
@somebody553
@somebody553 4 ай бұрын
Dang crazy how much the first woman is feeling herself while giving the most stupid speech 😂 I kind of live!
@melrox8809
@melrox8809 3 ай бұрын
That was interesting 🤔 thanks for sharing 😊
@user-no2mz9hl4f
@user-no2mz9hl4f 4 ай бұрын
Not all conservatives are anti-vegan. Speaking as someone with conservative political values who also is vegan, we come in all shapes and sizes.
@tigerlilly3727
@tigerlilly3727 4 ай бұрын
ditto
@JazCue90
@JazCue90 4 ай бұрын
“Those little things can barely swim!” 😭😭😂😂😂 Shes insane
@veganjotaro
@veganjotaro 4 ай бұрын
I like how you put a pair of scissors to show where you cut something. Neat editing.
@JYobtat8156
@JYobtat8156 4 ай бұрын
9:37 Wow, I didn't know that vegans had greater sperm count and mobility. Sure, it's a small study but there was a significant difference. Just another thing to say to the anti-vegans that associate eating meat with masculinity.
@presterjohn1697
@presterjohn1697 4 ай бұрын
The Cabbage is like, "Cabbage Protective Services...PLEASE"
@deepakhiranandani6488
@deepakhiranandani6488 4 ай бұрын
Thanks. The mind boggles at how that woman and her bizarre statements and behaviour were... well, tolerated I suppose although that's a strong word. As you say, it does look as if she's behaving like a stand up comic. It seems almost as if she's parodying herself. And that lame argument about vegan consumption of soya driving the damage in the amazon forest: surprised people still trot that out. Doesn't the public know most of the soya is fed to farm animals and then there's forest cleared for grazing? Frankly, with such speakers, I'm surprise the side against veganism got the number of votes that they did. Actually it's a sobering thought: it shows that so much of society is viscerally against veganism to the extent that they would swallow such weird - well, illogical and unsubstantiated- reasoning against it. Well thanks for the video, nice.
@MrTpnick
@MrTpnick 4 ай бұрын
An Oxford student blaming soy farming on vegans? In 2023? How embarrassing for Oxford.
@deepakhiranandani6488
@deepakhiranandani6488 4 ай бұрын
In a previous video you had pointed out how lower back pain could result from narrowed arteries due to high cholesterol etc., as those bones get oxygen from sort of seeping through blood vessels. Here in this video the linkage of narrowed arteries with osteoporosis is interesting and I think new for me. Thanks.
@dragonofhatefulretribution9041
@dragonofhatefulretribution9041 4 ай бұрын
Everyone that goes carnivore report the end of joint pains. High cholesterol narrowing arteries is a myth that goes against the logic that arises from understanding the mechanism by which cholesterol operates within the bloodstream. Joint pains are usually the result of inflammation as a result of diet. Why do the carnivore community not experience joint pains and actually experience an end to arthritis? You won’t find an honest answer within the vegan community. “For the protection and nourishment of the body, no other food item is better than meat.” - Charaka Samhita (3000 year-old Sanskrit Hindu medical text on Ayurveda) “The meat of freshly-killed animals is like Amrit (the ultimate life-giving fluid that sustains the divine).” - Bhava Prakash
@mariaangelova8275
@mariaangelova8275 3 ай бұрын
The drunk aunt at Christmas lol 😂 spot on
@JazCue90
@JazCue90 4 ай бұрын
That woman is making such a fool of herself! 😭😭😭😂
@MrDavidSoro
@MrDavidSoro 4 ай бұрын
Oh so they won! Hlad to hear that
@fabygoo
@fabygoo 4 ай бұрын
This was embarrassing. It was like a high-school debate you didn’t prepare for but your think you can BS your way out of 😬😬🫠🫠
@pattheplanter
@pattheplanter 4 ай бұрын
At the Oxford Union that is fatal. They expect style with polished arguments and real entertainment without sacrificing the truth you are representing.
@plantbasedcanvas
@plantbasedcanvas 4 ай бұрын
Great show as always! Are you a cellist?
@baganbobik9312
@baganbobik9312 4 ай бұрын
What is that?
@melaniebagnall3290
@melaniebagnall3290 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for listening to "Haty Katie" so I don't have to.
@baganbobik9312
@baganbobik9312 4 ай бұрын
Why would anyone let in the insane lady harassing students into the respectful institution?
@Roki-Roki
@Roki-Roki 4 ай бұрын
Its like a 3rd grader copied his homework off google and than being called up in front of the class to explain it, without knowing what he is talking about. But aren't all nonvegan arguments like that.
@chelleec23
@chelleec23 4 ай бұрын
Lifting Vegan Logic posted a video that was a hilarious compilation of clips from the crazy chick. I can't even remember her name now. Anyway, it was hilarious.
@Nobody-Nowhere
@Nobody-Nowhere 4 ай бұрын
I kind of get the sense that she had not prepared for this at all, just spouting anything that comes to mind. Apparently shes had some major brain surgery for epilepsy, lobotomy was at least what they used to do for epilepsy :)
@SuperpowersUniversity
@SuperpowersUniversity 4 ай бұрын
FOOD reversed = DOOF Doo = Doo Doo Letter F = to Fall, Fail its Food going in & Doo Doo coming out Knowledge is Power become a Super Hero
@writerchik44
@writerchik44 4 ай бұрын
#VeganForLife ❤
@marzettik
@marzettik 4 ай бұрын
Good video, some really funny moments, lol.
@defenderoftheadverb
@defenderoftheadverb 4 ай бұрын
"Someone's drunken aunt" yep. Very apt.
@SM-qd5nk
@SM-qd5nk 4 ай бұрын
Hi Mic! Please could you do a video on MCT Oil?
@N330AA
@N330AA 4 ай бұрын
I don't know why Hopkins was even there, she didn't go to Oxford.
@Kim66869
@Kim66869 4 ай бұрын
Katie seems she found herself guilty and frustrated for her crimes 💀
@justalex7825
@justalex7825 4 ай бұрын
how did they even get 84 votes?
@lat1419
@lat1419 4 ай бұрын
Katie is a comedy act. Once you understand her humour it becomes clear.
@josephbilling3886
@josephbilling3886 4 ай бұрын
I thought the points would be bad, but this is truly above and beyond unhinged
@ilonabaier6042
@ilonabaier6042 4 ай бұрын
SOME PEOPLE HAVE TOO MUCH FREE TIME
@braveintofuture
@braveintofuture 4 ай бұрын
I have started to make my locusts out of seitan. All vegans should try it, it is so much better!
@presterjohn1697
@presterjohn1697 4 ай бұрын
Wonder if we took pets and housed them in a factor farm - would this resonate?
@dboyd1651
@dboyd1651 4 ай бұрын
Glad they had a forum for debate. It's great that the issues are brought up and addressed.
@WeCelebrateEatingPlants
@WeCelebrateEatingPlants 4 ай бұрын
Mic please tell us we're being punked
@astonuk9403
@astonuk9403 4 ай бұрын
The real debate is, are you saying methane correctly? me-thane or meth-ane 🤔 Great work Mike as always and sorry world for Kate Hopkins.
@Kayte...
@Kayte... 4 ай бұрын
U.S.ers pronounce many words differently than the British.
@presterjohn1697
@presterjohn1697 4 ай бұрын
Dear cabbage ... wink if you're in danger ...
@nly
@nly 4 ай бұрын
How she doesn't break character, I will never know.
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