Next gen price for worse than last gen performance

beat me to it

Not even last gen since mhw looks way better then this

Exactly

Graphics do not matter to the kind of human that loves these games It's mechanics Look at rise omg 😲 lol

Yep, I started rolling my eyes at 0:20 with the first huge world shadow pop in, and it only went downhill from there.

I struggle to stomach TAA at the best of times but this is just comical. It's like there just aren't any motion vectors at all in a lot of cases, just leaving perfect copies of previous frame data.

Something about the color I really dislike. Its seems washed out in alot of the cilps shown to me. Watching on a LG Oled C9 which is professionally calibrated. Monster hunter world looked washed out like this also to me. Highly dislike that style so much.

Sucks too cause the gameplay is incredible. I'm obsessed with this game right now, can't stop thinking about playing it.

Does this game even run on Nintendo Switch?

@@bltzcstrnx if it runs like this on current gen then the Switch version would blow up the console.

Series S is a potato bro!!

​@PMP_7997 your brain is the only potato thing here

​@@bltzcstrnx in it's current state I'm pretty sure it can run on switch, monster hunter rise looks way better than this.

They lack talent able to pull off proper optimization but are too cheap to hire some specialists.

You’d think it’d be different since EA is publishing. I think if they wanna compete with Capcom they definitely need to fix the performance issues or else the game will be forgotten

Don’t think so , since this game has post launch support planned

@@sly2409 "Planned" is the keyword here. There's no way of knowing how many of the games problems actually CAN be fixed without completely re-writing the engine.

Wo Long demo in fps mode seems to run very smooth. The resolution mode has a weird hiccup every few seconds, hope they iron that out because other than that it's very smooth too.

yea was about to buy it for my ps5 but wanted to try it first on my pc with gamepass/ea 10 hr trial. Was dissapointed with performance on my 1070ti so wanted to look at performance on consoles and seems like im not buying it even im a huge fan of MHW. %100 performance issues here :/

@@zigzog5671 it just got updated and consoles is running real smooth. I got 150 hrs in on series x and it’s smooth with co op now even

I was wondering why it looked so similar to Wo Long.

For perspective, the next game has at least twice the dev budget of RE4R, and that was before it was internally delayed by 9 months, before the 30% payment raise in the company and before the economic crisis. It had a dev cost of 84M usd in 2020, thats without including the guaranteed expansion to it which would add easily another 60M in the future. It is only measuring development costs, so it is unknown how much the marketing and other costs would add on top of it. It is known that it is planned to be revealed this year, so expect something at E3 State of Play timeframe and Tokyo Game Show. Next year is the 20th year annivesary for the franchise so it will release around January to March 2024.

Yeah this feels like a don't bother situation

yep. maybe even next gen only, huge budget, man it’s gonna be insane

@Robbie Mulvany it’s 540p in handheld mode and 756p docked and yes both modes are 30 FPS. But it’s also running on an 8 year old mobile chip. Imagine what they could do on modern consoles.

@Robbie Mulvany And looked better than all but 5 Nintendo Switch games and 4 of them were made by either Nintendo or its subsidiaries so thats a huge achievement. Thats why it became the best selling third party game in the platform, its the biggest game not made by Nintendo by far. Switch was underperforming in technology at release also. Rarely uses 100% of its performance or it would heat up too much and drain all of its battery.

Monster Hunter World blows this away and it's running on their old MT Framework engine and that got developed for PS3 and 360. RT reflections, shadows, and GI are neat but so many titles release with it and either have awful performance, poor utilization, or require a $1,500 GPU to have it look and run worthwhile. Sorry I'm always gonna choose performance and framerate, if it means using old techniques (that don't look bad if done artistically) then it's not even a decision. Hey let's hope with patches maybe this is get worked out.

Yes, it is funny!!

Sure, visually. But gameplay wise? MH < WH

MHW was a visual masterpiece when it came out.

I was also like "what?". Had to check if this was a sponsored video. Then just goes into a rant for half the video about the lack in visuals and perfomance. Like, there is barely anything good to say apart from maybe the art direction.

Don't you dare insulting 7th Gen again like that, lol

nah, we are dealing with a tecmo koei game lol

We talkin bout that ps triple. I mean cmon…series s? What does that stand for, series stink? Ballin!

Ha. Thanks for this. It made me laugh. An alpha version...

Like every AA to AAA game released now a days. We are paying them to qa/qc test their rushed release games...

@@RobVespa they’re not wrong either

@@GhostStalker16 Not every.Many,but not all.Look at Hi Fi Rush or Dead Space Remake.They were quite solid.

Next gen because the next frame won't be generated until the next generation.

Hardly next gen perf at that

I think even calling this last gen is being pretty generous

@@SvensPron indeed

I said it before and I'll say it again 9th Gen Devs are the worst

No, just no

@DrJones20 geometric detail of character models as well as secondary character animations might be a step above in this game but many other aspects have been better presented in games for 7th gen consoles.

They don't. I am playing it right now and I really need to think hard of a PS3 game looking better than this.

That's one advantage they can't use anymore lol

Playstation has just been more popular since last generation so it becomes the target platform and gets more of the initial focus it seems

No third party developer so far utilizes the current gen tools of the Series consoles that would give it perfect performance.

This game doesn’t run well at all on the ps5 either.

We are not playing games on paper so “Better on paper” statement is bollocks

Since the Xbox Series S is much weaker in GPU and has considerably less RAM available than both Xbox Series X and Playstation 5 I think the differences in more demanding games are only going to get bigger going forward. Whether or not the Series S is a very modest machine, in some specs it even loses to the Xbox One X, it will be interesting to see how it will do throughout the generation, but I wouldn't get my hopes up. If Microsoft were to remove the mandatory parity between versions as some devs have asked, it would at least give the devs extra time to release the Series S version later and have more time to polish the game on weaker hardware like the Nintendo Switch.

@@MoonSarito I think one of the main problems there comes from that the Series S has sold more than the Series X, so if the versions were different it would make financial sense to do the S version first. But then that in itself would be a cut down version of PS5 which would be a cut down from PC. It's a tricky one for sure, but it shouldn't be a issue with games that look decidedly last gen like Wild Hearts

mods?

*looks at his 65+ hrs in the game already* welp lol

true unfortunately, mh gen 6 is not gonna come anytime soon

@@pemuda7075 It will be likely revealed around June since Rise Sunbreak big updates will end in April. If not then in late September for an announcement at TGS. I would consider 4-7 months kinda soon.

@@pemuda7075 According to 2 huge leaks (the Jensen's Prophecy and Capcom email hack) it's coming out next year, probably first half of it even so i'd surely expect some sort of announcement this year either at "E3" or TGS (especially in pre-New Year interview to Famitsu MH series exec Ryozo Tsujimoto specifically said to look forward to TGS)

The phrase is "down pat", not "have it down pack".

The game is actually very good. They have made updates since. I don't think you need to wait for a price drop

​@@phant0mdummyI bet you're a blast at parties.

But this game has good gameplay, something what PS studios are lacking. But hey they have good graphics and story at least

​@@m.h.4907 Lol no

@@m.h.4907lol are you drunk?

​@@m.h.4907 Most PS games have great gameplay and are really fun to play. Perhaps you should play them and not just form an opinion based on what you read online.

@@m.h.4907the idea is great but devs need to do better for it to run smoother

Finally, someone with eyes! I hate it about modern games. All games are drowned in ghosting, smearing, noise and all kinds of visual artefacts making picture look "artificial". Everything is "reconstructed", faked nowdays.

Give it a patch or two and you can run it with the same settings as PS5 and Series X for sure at the same FPS without the shader compilation stutters. This should run at 60fps+ 4K native on 4090 everything maxed out, and 120fps+ 4K with DLSS Quality.

@@MadViking82 With settings comparable to PS5/Series X I belive it would easily run >150 fps on a RTX 4090 besides the compilation stutter identified and what seems to be a rather CPU-bound game-engine, esepcially if you play @4K max setting; I can both find videos on youtube of a 4080 not being fully utilized (load percentage in the 80'ies) with a i9 13900 @native4K+max setting running 55-75 fps and a 4090 running >150 fps in "4K" with upscale enabled and the GPU only still at 60-70% utilization. And that is just the thing. As PC players we are left guessing things like what settings above and beyond console the PC version offer, what and when and how the gameengine especially taxes the CPU, how is fails to utilize the GPU etc. Is there shimmering, does the lightning works or is it perhaps better than what we see on console and so on. It is really a shame so many games getting a console tech review while the PC gets left out in many such multiplatform titles. I know that sometimes there is a PC special on multiplatform games, but SO many games only gets a console review, where what one can hope for as a PC player are mere breadcrumbs.

This right here. Like why is PC even mentioned in the video's title? Its like a 10 second mention in the video. WTF.

@@TheAsenkah And only a single, high end rig too. No real mention of lower end/minimum specs and how they perform in comparison. Seems like that section was just there to reinforce the points about performance and visual glitches not being down to simply hardware limitations. Some reviews they do have recommended settings and such, alongside their performance impacts, but not even a hint of that here. Really is sad.

World 2 won't exist. Capcom said a while back they aren't using numbers anymore and even if they did it's internally called MH6.

@@nuke2099 World 2, MH6, MHNext, it's all the same shit because we don't know what it's actually called anyways.

@@rpglover101 We know it's called MH6 internally. So that's what it's actually called. "World 2" is proof of someone being a fiver because otherwise they would know Capcom said they were done with numbers in the official title.

Same.

A few frame dips aren't gonna kill you jeez

The game plays great & is hella fun

@@anthonyshield7303the game is harder than monster hunter ? Or hardly punishing?

or paying $70 for a shitty monster hunter world/rise clone when those games cost $60 on launch. not to mention rise on switch looks and runs better than this

Yeah, so true. Considering the visual fidelity, this game should easily run at 60fps in 4K on console equivalent hardware.

Yeah honestly terrible game, due to proprietary new engine

And stupid price

I really wish they did look backs on most if not all games they cover with issues, but unfortunately they only do that with games that are really popular. So most likely not this game.

@@Dorraj They probably have so much on their plate they probably don't have the time to do it unless it's a major popular game. In Wild Heart's case though I had really bad performance issues on pc with stutters and inconsistent frametimes. They did patch it though and game runs pretty well now.

That is a wasting of time. Basically none of the games has been fixed

Ummm I mean it wasn’t that funny

This is a current gen game. Blame your pathetic consoles that can't achieve 1440p on an actual current gen game. Sony and Microsoft fooled you with the cross gen era. These consoles are sub 1080p and 60fps for current gen games.

@@lordspalse0062 Have you played the game? I played on PC, max settings and looks so last gen, lmao - and it also runs like shit on PC - hence so negative reviews on steam. Stop bein such a shill, lmao.

@@mroutcast8515 Alright sir.

I was looking over it earlier and on a 65 inch 4k screen, in performance mode, I can see what they are trying to do. If you look closely you can see they are trying to mimic some wet effect as if you are looking through rain/snow. It’s an odd artistic choice and completely makes it unplayable on my 28 inch 4K monitor. It looks like poop. The effect looks good standing still but as soon as you start moving it looks like shit lol.

(and also has issues.) If MH has issues, this one is utter crap. Don't sugarcoeat utter incompetence because it's spreading. Right now well working games are the exception from the norm

Yeah but thats only at 1080p! What is this, release of the ps4? Why are people so accepting of shit rushed releases that are unfinished technically? No wonder companies still pull this shit everytime

@@GhostStalker16 Its cuz at the end of the day, Im playing the game to have fun. Eventually in the future we will get to a point where every game will be able to do 4k 60fps or even 4k120fps but we arent their now. Hell, even Hogwarts performance mode is 1080p60fps but I heard that game was great. Deadspace and GOWR performance modes cap out at 1440p (and if u wanna be a stickler, 1440p is relatively old. Coming out around 2010). Im not saying games should be allowed to run like GARBAGE, but at what point are we letting performance stop us from having fun.

​@Danimals are you comparing GoWR to THIS?????? 🤡 GoWR could be running at 720p or lower and would still look A MILLION TIMES BETTER! There's just no excuse for a game to look THIS HIDEOUS in early 2023, especially on current gen! Even The Last of Us for the PS3 outshines this piece of crap, and that gem is turning 10 YEARS OLD in June! The lack of polish is very obvious here, developers should be ashamed. 😡

@Fernando Alfradique ur definitely OD'ing it bro. This game does not look THAT bad graphically.

Wait for a price drop or wait 6 to 12 months to get it fully in the Xbox Game Pass via Ea play. With some luck the game would be in a better state 😉

PS5 VRR still needs work though.

1440p vrr is useless. There arent even any hdmi 2.1 1440p monitors so they wont be able to use vrr

It already has

Any year now…

buy eyes

"performance issues, keeping from excelling" No, it has unacceptable performance, blatant errors on and post release and downright laughable graphical fidelity considering it is next gen only title. Would you all stop fucking sugarcoating utter incompetence? This game runs and looks like shit. it's performance keeps it from being truly PLAYABLE. This is how you get worse and worse and worse performance in games every year. How many games actually work well from last year? What else will we accept?! No. Wild Hearts WOULD be a lovely MH alternative if it was done properly, but NUMEROUS issues and ERRORS in it's performance AND FIDELITY keep it from being fully PLAYABLE. There, fixed it for you. Now you can hope devs would also fix the game as well P.S. in DF Direct they called this mess "not worth reviewing" because of as you call "some issues that prevent it from excelling".

it’s because optimization is different for the two consoles. they are roughly the same when it comes to most aspects, and on paper, the Series X is only slightly more powerful, but to a negligible amount. issues you see here are the results of bad optimization and bugs, which are present on both PS5 and Series X/S as you can see. using such a buggy mess like this as evidence that “games run better on PS5” is actually pretty embarrassing if you ask me, because this looks like a game that would be released for last generation instead of current generation.

quick cash grab before monster hunter 6 releases

​@@visceraeyes525 I would say Koei Tecmo, they always subpar in terms of technical performance. Basically legacy Japanese developer where performance and technical advancements often neglected.

@@visceraeyes525 It's not a cash grab. It's an otherwise legitimately great game by most accounts that is ruined by awful performance.

@@Worthless. Playing a game with next gen price on a next gen console with 1080p and 40 fps is not a win.

@@Plusimurfriend Not a "win" but end of the day as long as the hours and fun spent is still there. I already hav 65hrs in the game despite the technical issues, and im only in Chapter 3. lol

I hear you. I never thought about shadows, resolution, anti-aliasing, texture quality, etc. I used to just play the games. If it looked cool and ran well enough, I was happy. We only know about these things because it's pointed to us. I love this game!

not the consoles fault, the Series X is easily capable of that stuff and i don’t see how you think it’s the consoles fault. you can easily see in all versions of this game that it’s got issues, both with optimization and bugs, and the shadows and performance are no exception. the PS5 and Series X are roughly equivalent machines and could both run this game far, far better.

Shadow of the colossus combat was donkey doodoo and the horse riding was worse than zelda

Monsters in monster hunter aren't enormous except Grigori and Grigori doesn't match the big monster hunter bosses. Even at that monster hunter directly influenced dragons dogma and has better combat.

Shadoe of the colossus didn't have combat, except for like 2 or 3. They're mostly puzzles. Don't get me wrong I love that game (mostly due to the soundtrack) but it has no business getting compared to actual combat heavy games like MH, DD or GE

@@Walamonga1313 I'm referring mostly to the scale and the way you approach combating the giant monsters. Shadow of Colossus wasn't combat but you were still battling the monster. And I liked how you could jump up on and climb the monsters in Dragons Dogma like SOTC but actually had combat. Instead of just hacking at their shins in other games (I assume that's what you do as every clip I've ever seen shows that)

All cutscenes are played in quality mode, what you see is the game switching to performance

RTSS does not help with the framedrops during heated battles… even down to 30-40fps if there is a lot of effects. I tested 4k on highest + 1080p on lowest… same fps drops. But yes, RTSS helps with minimize stutter.

Same. Swear they said its not even worth reviewing as its just so bad

More like several, this won’t be a good game till at least a year from now. This is cyberpunk 2.0

Ps4 was doing 1080p 60 ffs.

@@GhostStalker16 on some games sure but most games were 30 fps

I wouldn’t blame the consoles for that it’s definitely the developers fault. Even high end pc’s are getting a lot of bad ports this gen. It’s like they don’t even try to optimise their games for these platforms.

@@MsUltraBob No joke if devs would fully optimize their games and used game engines that actually used all the CPU cores we would easily see a 2-4X improvement in performance

Never noticed slowdowns tbh. The game has a memory leak though, it's probably that. The thing is that I usually don't play this game more than 2h a day so it might be that.

@@muuhnkin4611 never though about it. Thanks for the info!

Motion blur should never be implemented in anything if the frame rate is high enough motion blur will occur naturally

Indeed, looks so good.

This isn't hitting 60fps where it would matter. I'd rather a locked 30fps in every situation than a wildly fluctuating not-60fps in combat.

or they could've polished it for few months. this doesnt look good AND bad performance. if it was one or other, people wouldnt mind it that much.

​@@zigzog5671 That was part of the point of my post. They've spent time and money on making their own engine, still It looks worse AND run worse than most UE4 and 5 games. As it is now, let's hope they will polish things and make it better.

Several ps3 games look on par.

There's no way your pc runs it fine. Even high end pcs struggle

jepp! Something is really wrong here! Lazy devs or totally incompetence devs? Maybe the hired people from the ps1 and ps2 era and just let them out from a hole and they dont now how to develop

@@Walamonga1313 They struggle because the freaking stutters, that's the only difference, like i said, Evil West is the same deal, and thats speaking for 1080p 60fps, not 4k for sure, stutters out of the way, i'd get the same 60fps experience in a way less powerful pc than the ps5 (5500XT 8GB) where i can run wild hearts at a high-low mix, excluding the stutters, sure.

@@snodd8377 I hope that's not the case, that'd be desatrous, but there is definetly something wrong with the way they are doing things

Simply this game not using good aa and upsampling tech. For example dead space in 60 fps mode is 1440 p upsampled from 960-800p and looks very good.

Games aren't priced by their perceived quality

87usd for me btw lol, mexican steam store. EA pricing is ridiculous. Jedi Survivor is the same