I agree. ASOIAF is a retelling the Wars of the Roses, the Starks and Lannisters are parallel with the Yorks and Lancasters, and the war ended with a marriage between Elizabeth of York and Henry Tudor. Sansa is the direct parallel to Elizabeth of York, I think it will end with her marriage bringing peace.

I am starting to see Sansa as another British royal - Mary Queen of Scots. It's all the weddings and betrothals. I don't think she'll be killed by another queen, but I think she will have exactly one child who will be the heir to many places.

@@kittycheshire5099 But who will she marry? Jon, Griff or Harry?

@@eric2500 it won’t be Harry.

Beautiful is a bit of a stretch when you actually look at her portraits.

Yeah but that’ll be kind of sad for Sansa if she ends up with her undead cousin

@@sayaalicious9146 True..... then perhaps Martin has some kind of twist in the making. ?

​@@sayaalicious9146 I dunno about her being sad. He's probably everything she's ever dreamed of. If his name is Aemon, he'd be her Prince that her father promised.

Yeah still not happening

I'm sorry for my pedantic nature, but... They're not foils, they're parallels. Jon and Joffrey are foils. They are the exact opposites. Most notably, Jon is short, Joffrey is tall. Also, just my own theory, a more likely match for Aegon would be Daenerys. Daenerys is Jon's parallel. Due to everything that happens in their stories, Jon and Danh kinda feel like they're being set up not as lovers, but as enemies. This leads to an even wackier theory: Dany and Aegon being together could possibly parallel Jon and Sansa.

Maybe in the book she'll be with jeyne poole

@@Janary08 ATM in the Books, Jeyne is an Option, Rikkon is an Option, Bran is an Option (just because GRRM told d&d that Bran would be King on the IT he is unlikely) if Jon is resurrected he is an Option, and as I mentioned also is Mya Stone. So I really, really don't care Who will be with Sansa (not in marriage) as long as she has some family and friends around her. That part was what I hated in the show.

@@Ilargizuri I think Sansa Arya and Bran will rule together in the end. It will be a parallel of Aegon the Conqueror, Rhaenys and Visenya. Bran the All Seeing Tree Wizard will become King exactly because he is an All-Seeing Tree Wizard and Sansa and Arya will rule by his side with Sansa being his Rhaenys and Arya being his Visenya. Of course there will be no incest involved 🤢 🤢 🤢 Sansa will probably be his Hand, the first ever female Hand. The Stark family will be united again. Do you know that the first title for the upcoming book Winds of Winter was A Time for Wolves?! Suggestive isn't it?

@@gerardjagroo Yes, the title is suggestive. But given the Motives and the Symbolism on a Meta-Level that surrounds Arya, I don't think that will happen, it just doesn't fit. Overall her narrative and Symbolism hints towards someone who either will die in the Process of fighting for the living or leaving Westeros because she wants to see more of the World in that Way the Show was not Wrong, just very poorly executed. The Motives and Symbolism in that regard point more towards either Sam or Jon. Visenya was the aggressive one who was very knowledgable in terms of Magic, both things that points towards Jon or Sam. Arya has to much Cats and Lion-Symbolism in her Narative and given the Narative in terms of Lions and Cats in these Books neither hint towards royalty or Political Power.

It is unfortunate that Cersei will out live Myrcella

Aegon will be shooting himself in the foot by marrying Cersei's known bastard. When Aegon marches on King's Landing, he'd be doing so with overwhelming force and the support of many. He will not need to negotiate with Cersei about anything when he could simply pluck her down from the throne. By marrying the bastard, he'd also be alienating Dorne who hates the Lannisters. If he needs the Westerlands so bad, it would be easier to name Addam Marbrand or one of the Lannisport Lannisters as it's Lord. They'd be smart enough to see which way the wind is blowing and turn their cloaks.

I mean isn’t the whole war based on the premise that Cersei and Robert’s children are bastards? It wouldn’t make much sense for Aegon to marry the bastard daughter of Cersei and Jaime (born of incest so another negative) when he is trying to take the throne by making his claim look as legitimate as possible, marrying Myrcella would just undermine that

@@gerardjagroonot for nothing but I do believe like Ellia in the show Arianne may kill Myrcella to keep her from Aegon. Thus Maggie the Frog’s prophecy will come true and like in the show Cersei will get her revenge for that.

If JonCon and co take Storms End and defeats Mace Tyrell in the field I could see them bending the knee to Aegon have Tommen renounce his kingship and Margery her queenship.... That way Tommen would become lord of StormsEnd or if he's discovered as a bastard Aegon might legitimize him and he'll be Tommen Lannister heir to Casterly Rock (which is more likely to happen as that's what Tywin wanted. He originally wanted Jamie to marry Margery and assume his place at Casterly Rock) I can't imagine Cersie making it out of her trial she has no support and no way will Mace ever have her back as regent and sitting in the small council. Margery might end up being regent as the case against her isn't very strong as the high septon said himself....

Well, really Rickon would be the King and Sansa would most likely just be his regent until he comes of age. Rickon comes before Sansa in the line of succession.

@@joshstroven8284 hence, like in the show Rickon will die. I mean his direwolf is called Shaggydog for a reason. His story is not going to go anywhere.

@@jjh2456 I'm inclined to agree. If not getting killed, than at least not leaving Skagos.

@@joshstroven8284 Not in the North. But I think he'd give her heirs.

through some other woman - Sansa is done with marriage and probably men - of course she might have a kid with Harry the Heir before he dies - I think he is doomed.

It would/could make sense for many reasons, too. It would stabilize the North. No succession issues. She wouldn't worry about him taking Winterfell. Her grandparents (Ned's parents) were also cousins. They weren't like siblings as children. They know what each other has been through & their traumas. He is brave, gentle, & strong. He is like Ned & she is like Cat, but better. It would stop people from trying to undermine her claim, etc. Then there is the Jonnel & Sansa Stark history of it all.

It's funny to me that people are like ''it's impossible to grow up as siblings and then it changes to romantic feelings''. On many occasions, it is shown that Jon and Sansa aren't close as siblings. When Jon speaks of his sister, he often only thinks of Arya. Sansa is never really part of his siblings thought. Meaning either he doesn't consider her his sister at all, or he chooses to distance Sansa from that role. For those who doubt these theories, I suggest you read 'The Jonsa Compendium', you should find a very elaborated essay on their relationship and their potential future. Super interesting.

While I understand this perspective and it’s one of the better outcomes for Sansa, I can’t help, but to disagree. Sansa has been a romantic character from the beginning who wants to get married, have a loving husband and beautiful children. I know, dreams can change, but I feel that she would still want these things and it would be kind of sad if she doesn’t get them. I mean she believed that no one would ever love her for her an not her claim, the best end would be for her to find someone who puts her above her claim. Someone who truly loves her. If at the end we strip Sansa of her romantic nature and she actually doesn’t get what she has wanted, it’s like letting Littlefinger’s words win (Life isn’t a song). Again, I know realistically life isn’t a song, but I’m saying within the story Sansa’s hope and resilience is her biggest strength. She is also the heroine in a story where Littlefinger is her villain, I think it would make more sense if Sansa is the fulfilled song, especially cuz her singing is also a big part of her character.

@@emta8149 that’s a good point. I don’t think Sansa will be put off of marriage forever, but I don’t think she’ll be married at the end of the series. She might be pursuing a relationship with someone who loves her genuinely and power is no longer a factor in their relationship, but I think based on the current chronology, her marriage would likely come in post canon. Maybe GRRM will write a new history book after he finishes A Dream of Spring, featuring Sansa’s marriage.

If Jon's secret Targaryen name is Aemon, he'd probably never end up as king like all tge other Aemons. He's definitely husband material, considering what his dreams are and how he treats people.

​@@emta8149 The "Life is not a song" thing was, _however accidentally,_ literally been disproven by Jon unknowingly fulfilling Sansa's wish of a hero throwing down Janos Slynt and cutting off his head.

because Aegon ia the name of the Conqueror which is a very important figure in Targaryen's history

@blushyrosie I understand that,honoring their dynasties founder and all, but what about just giving your son a good name

yeah, Baelor Breakspear gave his sons really cool names. Valarr and Matarys 😎

@@Mj_Jetson Matarys! Damn Martin is really good at creating names

@@HBpenman Yet he named the Northern Kingdom 'the North', the Western Kingdom 'the Westerlands', the Kingdom with all the rivers, 'the Riverlands' 😂

I have been imagining something like this but more explicit 😂 He goes into Sansa's bedchamber to rape/seduce her and sees a femine form standing behind the sheer bedcurtain and rushes in eagerly only _to his shock and horror_ finds himself being strangled by the decaying corpse of Catelyn Stark!!! 😂😂😂

You think thing for the redheads could be a bit Freudian thing? With mother figure, lady Stark, refusing to mother him?

@@chrissiek8706but it is specifically redheads though. Like Ygritte and then how he just keeps thinking of Sansa all the time and how she keeps thinking of him all the time. I dunno man. Another thing…Jon has always coveted Robb’s position. He knew he couldn’t have it cause he was a bastard. Now IF Aegon is Aegon that means he’s Jon’s brother. You think Jon is gonna cover what his real brother has again?

​@@jjh2456 neither of them think of each other that much.

Val opened his horizons

Jon does not have a thing for redheads. Someone asked George why he kept comparing Ygritte to Arya and it was to establish Jon's type and what he finds admirable. Jon also never thinks of Sansa when he thinks about Ygritte.

I think you meant whether, not rather 😊

I don't think it's likely, but it would be nice to have healing of the relationship since Sansa disliked Jon only because her mother did

I do think they could be happy together genuinely similar to Cat and Ned

@@jenniferpearce1052 It's not only likely, it's pretty much inevitable. Jon has left with the wildlings and obviously they're going to crown him King Beyond the Wall. With no White Walkers and the winter, apparently, gone, they will thrive and multiply, becoming a major power and therefore a threat for the North. Meaning Sansa will need to forge an alliance with them, which will need to be sealed with a marriage.

@@Alknix also don’t forget the Dothraki. In their culture if you manage to kill the khal, then you become the next khal. Danaerys was their khaleesi and Jon killed her. So guess who is the Dothraki khal now. I bring this up cause Drogon is out there somewhere and will more than like bring the Dothraki to their new khal.

Although I don't think Sansa will ever actually become Aegon's wife, I don't think the points you made are the most relevant. In terms of Joffrey, everyone hates him and it'll be easy enough to find someone else to blame for his death, e.g. Tyrion acting alone (which makes most sense politically for Aegon once Dany arrives with Tyrion as her ally), Littlefinger if Sansa reveals it, or literally anyone else. Basically it's an easy enough thing to wave away when just about everyone important in Westeros hated Joffrey and didn't realistically believe that little Sansa could have plotted his murder or that she wouldn't have had good reason to do it if she had. In terms of the relative importance of the North and the Riverlands, you have to remember that the whole power of the Iron Throne and title of King of the Seven Kingdoms is based on having a unified ruler of all the realms. The more realms try to rebel or become independent, the less power the IT actually has, and that opens the doors for other kingdoms to also want independence. The RL are especially important because they're right in the middle of Westeros and you can't have stable power across the 7K if the central kingdom is rebellious, fractured and following a different leader (e.g. Littlefinger, the Freys, Dany, Jon/the North/Stannis or whoever might try to claim it from under Aegon). The North is HUGE and has a history (old and recent) of being culturaly different from the rest and wanting independence. Allowing them to be independent from the first is just a bad idea for the reasons I already mentioned, but especially if the North is still hosting a rival king who wants to take the IT. If marrying Sansa means bringing in the North and getting them to turn away from Stannis, that's still a major political and military benefit to Aegon even if the Northern forces are somewhat depleted. The main challenge with the North is that if it has a different leader, e.g. Jon or even Rickon, and Sansa is far away from it and is a daughter, then it'll take time and effort for Sansa's technical claim on the North to become an actual claim, and that's time that Aegon probably won't have. In terms of the Others coming south, tbh I think by the time that happens (at the earliest at very end of Winds, but we won't properly see the effects until Dream) the situation with Aegon and his marriage options will already be on the way out. Either Aegon will be defeated by Dany before he even recognises the scale of the threat, and/or Jon will have been elevated to King in the North at that point and Dany and Aegon will have to contend with another competing or independent King they'll want to bring to their side. Plus, if Jon's heritage is found out by either his own followers or other people (e.g. if he bonds with a dragon), then the threat of another dragon riding claimant will suddenly make an alliance with the North EXTREMELY important, either via Jon himself or by trying to replace him with the 'safer' choice of Sansa. But at the same time, at that point in the series it's likely Sansa's situation will have already changed and she may be more interested in making her own power moves (e.g. uniting the Vale with the RL via Sweetrobin's and/or LF's goodwill plus her connections to the Tullys and even Stoneheart, the Brotherhood and Brienne/Jaime; coming back North to join with or contest Jon on her own terms, etc.) So overall I agree Sansa won't end up marrying Aegon, but I think it's mostly because Aegon's upcoming story will have too much going on for a marriage with Sansa to ever happen before he dies - it might even be planned via Littlefinger, but won't have time to come true. Most likely Aegon will end up marrying someone who's already nearby, either Arianne or Margaery or Myrcella, who can give him more immediate political benefits via their families' alliances and who'll be personally present for Aegon to get to know or feel attracted to (he may well go against the politically wise moves and marry the girl he likes best, but he has to MEET said girl in order to choose her).

​@@g_wylde everyone hates Joffrey? When did that happen??? Everyone who knew Joffrey grew to despise him (except Cersei), I'll grant, but that's not everyone. Our perception of these characters is not the same as the general in-universe view of them. To the commons and the histories, he will probably be remembered as the brave boy-king. As the people who knew Joffrey best are killed off, memory of his cruelty will begin to fade amongst the overall population. As everything gets worse and worse with winter approaching, Joffrey's reign might start to even be looked back upon fondly. And even if he is remembered as a tyrant, his perceived killer would also have massive notoriety. Robb Stark is considered a traitor, and the Freys/Boltons massacred him at the Lannisters' request, but that doesn't stop Cersei's small council from debating executing Freys to make it appear like they did not condone the Red Wedding. Plenty of people think Sansa killed Joffrey: "The dwarf's wife did the murder with him," swore an archer in Lord Rowan's livery. "Afterward, she vanished from the hall in a puff of brimstone, and a ghostly direwolf was seen prowling the Red Keep, blood dripping from his jaws." (Jaime VII ASoS) "No," the Knight of Flowers said, unamused. "Sansa Stark was the poisoner. You all forget, my sister was drinking from that chalice as well. Sansa Stark was the only person in the hall who had reason to want Margaery dead, as well as the king. By poisoning the wedding cup, she could hope to kill both of them. And why did she run afterward, unless she was guilty?" (Jaime VIII ASoS) Even Brienne thinks its probable - Sansa was a gentle soul who loved lemon cakes, silken gowns, and songs of chivalry, yet the girl had seen her father's head lopped off and been forced to marry one of his killers afterward. If half the tales were true, the dwarf was the cruelest Lannister of all. If she did poison King Joffrey, the Imp surely forced her hand. (Brienne I AFfC). It is true that having the support of all seven kingdoms is a great sign of legitimacy, I don't think that this nominal support alone would be enough to force a marriage. Dany's dragons would easily get this support, so the only reason to discard Plan A and try to marry someone else would be dire political need - needing an army, or gold, or food. Neither the North or the Riverlands can provide either, and yet the Vale can provide all three. Despite any history of seeking independence, I think the North and especially the Riverlands would support whoever gave them the food to survive the long winter. Right now the most powerful House in the Riverlands is probably House Frey, right? The Twins are far removed from the worst of the fighting, and the Freys abandoned Robb pretty early, so fewer of their knights and soldiers were slaughtered in Robb's battles. The Freys were very wealthy to begin with, and now they've got a bunch of hostages from the Red Wedding. The most powerful House in the North would be the Frey-Bolton alliance. While these Houses will probably fall from grace very badly in Winds, they won't be wiped out completely instantly, and news travels slowly besides, so Aegon's gonna think they're still in charge for a long while. Both of these Houses would think that a Stark/Tully ressurgency would be gunning for them, so neither would look favorably upon a king with a Stark/Tully consort. And if Stannis wins the Battle of Ice in a landslide... I don't think he'd care if Sansa was married to Aegon, he'd never support Aegon. The northern lords would probably support Stannis and Rickon over Aegon and Sansa? Possibly unless they were starving, and Aegon was willing to ship food to his supporters.

@@g_wylde The other potential brides you mention - Arianne, Margaery and Myrcella - yeah, i think there's potential there. I think Tommen will die and live a second life in Ser Pounce in a parallel to Rhaegar and Elia's daughter Rhaenys. Once that happens, Aegon could marry Myrcella to consolidate his claim with the Baratheon-Lannister claim? It would upset the Dornish, though, to break the Myrcella-Trystane betrothal, but I think they could make it work. Arianne's determination to one-up Quentyn could definitely see her marry Aegon, despite the precarious political position that would put her in, so that works well as a fatal flaw/tragic karmic downfall kind of thing. Margaery... maybe? I thought she'd die pretty early in Winds in a parallel to Queen Helaena's death to kick off a brief Moon of Madness 2.0 before Aegon takes the city, but grrm might have other plans for her.

LOL well I think our ideas of credible might differ, but we'll see if any adults actually think Sansa pulled off public regicide.

@@HillsAliveYT i figure people would either overlook her age, or figure that if she's competent enough to escape the wedding and hide from everyone looking for her, she's competent enough to poison Joffrey. The court of public opinion is not exactly a fact-based realm. Loads of people in-story think she's guilty, and that's all that's required to tarnish her reputation.

LOL it's 3 for me but same.

Just had a great night of sleep, woke up at 7 and here we are lol

They were never enemies though?

I ship them so much ❤❤

Recently read Robert Greene’s Laws of Power book, and his retelling of Elizabeth’s story is pretty intriguing; keeping all suitors close, yet not too close, all to maintain peace in England, and eventually dying a virgin and unmarried. If that happens with Sansa, it’s be quite tragic, given her own aspirations.

yeah i am going with this theory too.

@@alialmuhanna4938 yeah but maybe she would marry in secret. I wonder who is going to be her heir. And hope the Stark family wont die out with Sansa

I personally want her to have the chance to actually fall in love after all of the shit she's gone through, but the Elizabeth I references GRRM threw in with Sansa aren't very subtle so this would also be a very plausible endgame for her.

@@HillsAliveYT honestly i dont think she is gonna get married. If she is going to have a relationship it would be with some minor Noble or servant. And everyone would be very hush hush about it. Otherwise Sansa's position as queen or lady of the north might be in jeopardy.

Well Alys Karstark (Stark blood) and her Wilding Hubby the Magnar ( Blood of the First Men) will be having kids. Also perhaps Rickon will survive, at least long enough to have kids. And Robb's will says Jon is it, so if he revives enough to have kids his heirs might continue the line...

@@eric2500 sounds like civil war material to me

​@@normtrooper4392 Or a _weird_ foreshadowing about a Jon/Sansa pairing...

Omg yes!😂 "So um... about all those years of secret rivalry and plotting..."

Great points! Sansa is also still technically married so if Aegon needs a powerful marriage alliance quickly that can be helpful in taking on Cersei, Sansa is not available.

aka the Old gods of the North?

Can you elaborate anything logical about them being together??

​@@Arya_25Jon is the only person in the entire world of asoiaf who's a). Significant enough politically for her to marry and b). Would never abuse her or hurt her. If Sansa gets a happy ending or something similar to it, that is the only option that works.

In the books, Sansa was never raped. I still think Jon and Sansa as a romance cringe. A lot of people would ask the question: "Lady Sansa, how long was it after you found out that Jon Snow was not your brother that you jumped into his bed?! Or were you always lusting after what you thought was your half - brother?!"

You obviously didnt read the books

@@OoOMonkeyCoFreakOoO most jonsa shippers read the book

​​@@joel5135 There arguments doesn't show that they did the books. Let me correct you they read the books through jonsa Tumblr acc

Yeah that's a fair point, I guess I never considered that a legit betrothal because Littlefinger was always running the show with Lysa and this was never a part of his plan. And bleh, "that dwarf's leavings," I'd throw Lysa out the moon door twice for that one.

Sweetrobin might outlive Harry, but for how long, with Peter and the Maester poisoning him with barbiturates constantly?

Not by much, if he does.

Then who rules the Vale, if both Harry and Sweetrobin die? A war between the broke Arryns and the Gulltown Arryns? Or do LF and Sansa cover up Sweetrobin's death, and just pretend they've got him hidden away somewhere?

Plus hell even Bael the Bard. A bastard coming from beyond the Wall to continue the Stark line with the daughter of the Lord of Winterfell.

yeah i feel like Rickon's not going to die at all... he's one of my favorite characters

​@@jjh2456in that song, hadn't they hid in the crypts while she was pregnant? That seems very macabre but could be symbolic as to how Jon is freaking DEAD rn!

I think Bran the All Seeing Tree Wizard will become King in the end exactly because he is an All Seeing Tree Wizard. I think this is what the author George RR Martin intends. The show ending, rushed as it might have been did not come from nowhere, neither did Mad Queen Daenerys. I think if Dan and Dave could have chosen they would have made Daenerys ultimate ruler in the end for feminist brownie points but that King Bran comes from George. They would not have been so hardy as to make Bran king from nowhere if it didn't come from the author.

@@gerardjagroo GRRM has said that the story starts and ends with Bran.

Yeah I think GRRM really clearly took inspo from Elizabeth I too so it wouldn't be shocking if this was his idea for her in the end.

@@HillsAliveYT If Sansa remains childless I guess that means it would the end the line of house Stark? Bran is gonna become the three eyed Raven, and Rickon is clearly going to die and not to mention Arya probably going "west of Westeros" if it ends up being similar to her arch in the book so I wonder if that is what will happen. The idea of the Starks dying out makes me sad 🥲

@@hez859 E1 was the last Tudor queen, too, tho, she was followed by James Stuart.

@@HillsAliveYT - Absolutely, plus the end of the tv series was done according to GRRM's instructions (albeit he only gave DnD the story in broad strokes). So, it does not look much like family and kids to me. Unless Martin really does finish the series and changes the course of action (if he's allowed to)...😁

​@@hez859just because Rickon was wasted in the show doesn't mean he'll die in future books. Ramsay Bolton isn't hanging around long during TWOW in my opinion. Who else is likely to kill him when he is relatively safe on Skagos?

Sansa's siblings are all very powerful wargs especially Bran and Arya. In addition Bran is an All Seeing Tree Wizard. The Dance of the Dragons 2.0 may end up with Daenerys burning Aegon to a crisp, but the North will be in a strong position to end Daenerys if she tries it on them. Imagine if they warg into her dragons and uses it on her army, it'd be Game Over for Dany. 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀🙂

LOL well technically the Ashford theory could be more about name than bloodline though, I mean Joffrey wasn't a Baratheon but he used the last name Baratheon, so George is obviously being a sneak here by leaving those options open without committing to Aegon being the real Aegon or committing to Aegon being Sansa's betrothal final boss.

It was never consumated, so they are technically not married according to the laws of Westeros

@@barbaraacard9729 I think they are still married but the marriage can be annuled if it is not consumated. It is a potential conflict if Sansa wants to marry again. I don't think Dany or Tyrion would let that slide if Sansa wants to marry Danys rival for the throne or if Sansa wants an independent north.

Dude there are 5 key characters and she isn't one of them

Except that Arianne _wants_ it. She thinks with discontent of Quentyn her brother being called King Quentyn if he married Daenerys. She wants the crown for herself and is very ambitious. She may do something rash like marrying Aegon without her father's leave. Sadly when Daenerys shows up 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

Oh yeah, forgot to say… Sandor won’t be married or engaged to Sansa, so that doesn’t factor into Ashford Theory. Before Sandor, on the way back from Kingslanding to Winterfell in the Vale, Sansa will be captured by the Mountain men of the Vale. They don’t marry or become engaged in “the Seven” sense, so the Burned man also doesn’t factor. Sansa will warg a bird, to bring Sandor to the rescue this time, a literal “little bird told me” message. Mad Mouse will be locked up this time or at Harrenhall with her, and helps her escape.

Bran, Arya and Sansa will become a parallel of Aegon the Conqueror, Rhaenys and Visenya except without the incest 🤢 Bran the All-Seeing Tree Wizard will spy on potential enemies, Sansa will do the actual day to day ruling and Arya will scare the shit out of anyone who looks hard at her family, between assassinations so to speak. George might have wanted to make Sansa Queen, but what with sexism, ruling behind the scenes with Bran wearing the crown was probably the best he could come up with while keeping to realism. Also Bran will be no slouch himself. It's hard to overstate how powerful he will be in the game of thrones, like a cat among pigeons. He will also excell at administering justice, as he'll instantly know who's innocent/guilty and where witnesses and evidence could be found. Those 3 will usher in a Golden Age for the Seven Kingdoms

Something about thinking this has a happy ending for anyone has me skeptical

I also wouldn't mind a Sansa x Daenerys relationship but it is most unlikely. In truth, I'd much prefer an Arya x Daenerys relationship because Dany would melt at the sheer awesomeness of Arya. However we're deep into Fan Fiction/Crack territory.

I've always imagined the reverse actually, Sansa in the North and Arya in the Riverlands, Arya has a deeper connection to the Riverlands than any of the Stark kids and given what horrors she saw there, I can see her wanting to rebuild it.

@@HillsAliveYT Fair perspective, but with nothing but bad memories, I would assume she wouldn't want anything to do with the Riverlands that isn't related to penance or vengeance.

@@HillsAliveYT I could see Arya wanting to rebuild areas destroyed by war, but I don't think it's in Arya's character to become an actual Lady or Queen. She's said it herself from the start, but also Arya likes to hang out with common people and understand their struggles so whatever Arya does next will be smaller scale and less 'official' than being Lady of the Riverlands or the North or whatever. She could even take over or recreate a 'Brotherhood without Banners' type of group that travels around the countryside helping common people and the reconstruction efforts, while also having the name and background to meet with local Lords and get the necessary support/funding to rebuild. But in terms of who'll rule the North in the end, I definitely agree it'll be Sansa, and probably as an umarried queen who therefore doesn't need to share her power (also because Sansa's been through enough being used as a marriage pact chip and will probably not want to get herself involved with something like that again if she's in a position to say no).

The crippled boy ruler Winterfell for a good while and he did fairly well before it was taken from him by treachery. Stop being ableist. George isn't, which is why he made Bran one of the most powerful persons in the world.

I have a question to your comment only as a watcher as well. Sansa is not a virgin no longer. She lost her virginity to Ramsey on her wedding night. Also, how does it work ain't she still married to Tyron

@@mariaaliciadavis9685 Yes, I know she is not a virgin...which is why I said (of sorts) and went on to explain that I was talking about the no-husband/no-children storyline. Also, an unconsummated marriage is not valid. So since she and Tyrion never had sex, their marriage was null and void. That's why she was free to marry Ramsay.

Yeah in the books, Sansa's arc is quite different - as of the beginning of The Winds of Winter, she's still in the Vale. Ramsay's bride is Sansa's childhood best friend Jeyne Poole. Jeyne is hidden in Littlefinger's brothel for a while after King Robert's death, where she's whipped and abused. Jeyne looks kinda like Arya and grew up at Winterfell, so the Lannisters dress her up in Stark colors, pretend she's Arya Stark and hand her over to the Boltons to marry Ramsay. The chapter where Jeyne and Ramsay get married - The Prince of Winterfell from A Dance with Dragons - is well worth a read, its bone-chillingly horrifying. If Jeyne and Sansa ever meet up in the books, and Jeyne tells her the horrors she's been through, that will probably turn Sansa against Littlefinger? Sansa and Tyrion's marriage wasn't great in the books... he's kind to her in many ways, but he's really ugly and she does not trust him (she trusted Cersei once, and accidentally betrayed Ned's coup to her. Never trusting a Lannister again.) They barely speak to each other and are really uncomfortable in each others' presence. Its also more difficult to undo marriages in the book - it requires that the marriage is unconsummated, and that its undone by the High Septon or a council of faith - probably not going to happen, but Tyrion may be presumed dead (he hasn't been seen since his escape, and is currently sitting in an army camp besieging Meereen, so he's not going to be returning to Westeros for ages) Sansa is currently kinda betrothed to Harrold Hardying - Sweetrobin's heir, upjumped squire and absolute jerk. Littlefinger's plan is for them to marry as soon as news arrives that Tyrion is dead... but Littlefinger's a liar so who knows what his actual plan is.

Yes, she is like 14 at the end of the last book.

***slight spoilers for TWoW*** In her released chapter from TWoW Sansa's become pretty competent and does a good job at getting people to respect her, even when it's begrudgingly. Two books of that competency and respect, and a few politically impressive moves, could easily set Sansa up to become a Queen in her own right. Of course, George could've completely rewritten the whole chapter at this point 🤷‍♀️

@@VickiLovesDoctorWho yeah but she still get tricked easely by Myranda Royce she still think Harry the Heir IS a cool dude... And she IS still Littlefinger pawn without realising it And she IS still 14 years old how many characters AT that age in this universe are competent in politics AT that age ? Not many its look like to that GRRM have his bias and Sansa IS going to be the coolest Queen on the Planet because it's a ''Time for Wolves'' and because ''Girl with Red Hair !!!'' and also because she IS Sansa Stark which IS kinda dissapointing I expected more of the Writer to justify her queenship

I think he's come to change his mind about certain events that he originally had planned for the ending, hence why he's dragging his feet now. Some characters that were originally minor pieces have grown on him. It makes sense--he's been writing this thing for 30 years. Maybe the Fire and Blood books are his way of trying out an alternative ending similar or purposefully opposite of how ASOIAF will end. He does like his parallels and foils.

Or maybe Rickon will live long enough to have a kid - by hiding maybe. He'll never rule, he'll be too crazy. He'll live in the woods with Arya and her wolves.

No I actually do expect Bran to be king in the end, just not of a united Seven Kingdoms.

@@HillsAliveYT My idea is that Bran, Sansa and Arya will become a parallel of Aegon the Conqueror, Rhaenys and Visenya except without the incest 🤢 Bran the All-Seeing Tree Wizard will spy on potential enemies, Sansa will do the actual day to day ruling and Arya will scare the shit out of anyone who looks hard at her family, between assassinations so to speak. George might have wanted to make Sansa Queen, but what with sexism, ruling behind the scenes with Bran wearing the crown was probably the best he could come up with while keeping to realism. Also Bran will be no slouch himself. It's hard to overstate how powerful he will be in the game of thrones, like a cat among pigeons. He will also excel at administering justice, as he'll instantly know who's innocent/guilty and where witnesses and evidence could be found. Those 3 will usher in a Golden Age for the Seven Kingdoms

Sorry boo but Jon Snow is a Targaryen. Go cry about somewhere else.

@@jjh2456 all targaryens have dragon dreams, even the secret Targaryens like tyrion, jon never have those, he's a wolf through and through

Shireen will be burned so that Jon can somehow be resurrected. Apparently GRRM told the show runners that will happen hence we saw it.

what

@@joel5135 what

@@jgr7487 Yeah realistic stories with dragons and zombies.....

@@ianvera4299 verisimilitude