Low key great comment.

The child labor is really with the EVs.

It's been bailed out by European companys twice..?

Was.

@@allamar9083 Thank you..

I never really liked Chrysler being merged with Mercedes(Daimler-Benz), and I wasn't happy when DB dumped them suddenly at all abruptly...HOWEVER...at least with that relationship, we got the Charger, Challenger, Magnum, and the Mercedes Sprinter to replace a much-outdated Dodge van...but with the Fiat/Stellantis setup, Chrysler hasn't gotten really anything positive at all from it...sabotaged by them, if you ask me..killing everything off and making stupid marketing/business decisions...an hideous-looking Fiat full size front wheel drive van, this hideous styled Hornet, and a bunch of Fiat cars nobody wanted to buy....

I almost forgot those awful-looking jeep "Cherokees" with the lit-up eyebrows that were really front wheel drive fiat cars....

I would worry more about their government-mandated surveillance software in the infotainment system.

I have a Chinese EV and a Chinese PHEV - price for performance they cannot be touched.

@@ericrichardson4403wild and they have not combusted on you

@@ericrichardson4403 until it your EV because a combustion fireball

@@theunknownone5990 another person falling for amerivan propogando and thinking china is spying on all western and america is so inocent it never spy on its own people

They definitely neglected it. They expected people to buy anything with a Dodge label, and didn't think anyone would read the fine print on their obvious rush-job of a design.

Moved to audi personally but i am also shopping in the imo golden era of cars which is 2015

Don't look at the crash test scores for that PTC.

Agreed. When Daimler backed out Chrysler Corp slower started to die.

06 300 C SRT8, couldnt be happier! except the gas station but whatever she is a runner.

We might see that lighter platform Tim was referring to when he said they had to cancel the hemi

​@lafosh7234 the platform Alfa Romeo Giulia is on?

They should bring back an upgraded SRT6 for the Dart, Avenger, Caliber, etc.

@KingDJL330 marketing won't allow... unless is a rebirth of the 60's Dart with the Hurricane motor in it

@@MaverickPhantom I think if they brought back the SRT6 in certain models, they would sell more cars than any other American brand. When the SRT and Hemi was gaining popularity, I noticed everyone buying SXT to SRT. With that being said, I think anything with SRT sold at a reasonable price nowadays will be sold out. The market is out there most definitely…it just a big180 for Dodge

Stellantis needs to halt the breaks on the EV! They are way too expensive and not many consumers want them!

Stellantis needs to watch Toyota! The CEO of Toyota listens to what his customers want & it's not an EV!

I have driven Dodges since 1969 but I would consider a KIA now!

Dodge perhaps needs to have a more friendly ICE company buy them & continue ICE manufacturing!

Tavares is just a creepy little suck-up who can only regurgitate corporate buzzwords. BAD things happen when a suck-up becomes the boss.

Agreed 100%

O yes

The problem with that logic is that Ford and GM are publically traded. Can only Americans own their stocks??

ABSOLUTELY!!!

Ja, dann kauft es zu einem sehr guten Preis Stellantis ab. Dann verliert ihr aber auch den EU Markt.

Idk how much they'd be willing to sell them for, but if we're talking real car people buying them I'd say both Tim Allen & Jay Leno could go in on them together & bring Dodge back from the dead

No ones gonna want to put money into dodge. It would be a money pit. Spend billions to get the same and technology. Then spend another couple billion on a plant. Spend more to train your new employees. Then pay the billions in CAFE fines if they don’t pass it on to the consumer. Which puts the vehicles out of reach.

That's because Dodge is crap. The fact that they can't make a V8 to meet emissions standards yet Ford and Chevy are still pumping out V8s for the mustang and corvette...

There were much better ways to fix the carbon credit situation than spitting on the core identity of their brand. They could have taken some time to develop a non-hemi V8 (call it the Magnum) that could get similar test scores to the Coyote or LS. Then either make them easy to tune, or get an aftermarket partnership similar to what Ford has with Shelby for the high performance versions, which would get around those requirements.

Corporate carbon tax on automotive companies that produce high performance V-8 engines nothing more than Biden E.P.A. Minions clamping down, forcing Americans to buy Garbage E.V.s that NOT RELIABLE. Camaro is discontinued and chevy and Ford producing V-8 because they have E.V.s chrysler doesn't. Hemi Most powerful V-8 engine ever needs to live.. DEMON SMOKE ANY MUSCLE CAR ON PLANT.

It’s a game of balance. ford and GM have other engines EV’s and hybrids to balance out their V8’s. They also dont base their identity around V8’s like Stellantis. This why the hornet exists because it helps bring down the average. They waited too long to do anything so now they’re scrambling.

​@@WoodRumbleFord and GM v8s are also doomed

Roger Penske attempted to buy Saturn and Hummer, and came very close to making a deal with GM until the manufacturer he had partnered with dropped out.

Chrysler purchased AMC back in 1987

GM wouldn’t sell Pontiac they still want the name.

@@lancetheb.m.c Your correct, and the Eagle line carried on for 10 years before failing. In summary, the purchase of the brand was a flop.

@@airratchetjockey7605 Well, that's sounds good. But, GM went bankrupt in 2009 and would not even exist today without the governvment bailout. Any asset worth a nickel was sold as part of the bankruptcy in 2009. They may not want to sell it but the name isn't worth anything. GM does tend to recycle models, if they think the name could genrate a sale they might try some badging swap. Hard to evivison a new Pontia platform as they are moving to hybrids and EV's and are killing the very slow selling Camaro.

Why would Elon want this?

@@colayco He would gain access to a dealer network that he can add Tesla to. He would also gain access to a lot of assembly lines. Tesla probably won't last much longer. Saving Chrysler products could help him save Tesla. Plus, elon has a big ego and I think he would love the fame he would get selling vehicles that couldn't be more different that what he has been selling.

⁠​⁠@@danthechevymanc6b475You have no fucking clue what Elon is all about. If he wanted to build ICE muscle cars he’d already be doing it and have put Dodge out of business. He also wants nothing to do with dealers, (stealers) otherwise Tesla would have those also. You’ve been living in a cave this past decade, quite obviously. Dodge has NOTHING he can use!

😂😂

Not a bad idea, if he did buy it I doubt he’d cancel the electric rams and jeeps. He’d probably keep them as an option and put Tesla batteries in them. I have no problem with electric versions as an option, I’m not ok with them being the only option.

Yo butter why don’t you buy dodge 😂 and fix what Stellantis is doing and help tim kuniskis

I wouldn't pay even that...I want any kind of "muscle" vehicle, I don't want it to be a crossover....

Checked on 4 corner brake job for 2016 chrysler 200C AWD $1,000 I about fell over I said few years ago it was $600. Save more buy parts have someone or self do brake job. 4 years ago I sold almost all my tools for car maintenance, 59 now. At will of dealership. Have great relationship with local Chrysler Dealership.

Good choices.. but I'd go for a Pontiac T-1000. It doesn't even need to be updated.

@johncarter1137 Hello I hear what you are saying but people are pushing for Toyota and Lexus to bring back more V8 engines as well !!!

Mopar guy since I can remember (59 now) never owner any other brand. I always get 100,000 miles plus out of all of my dodge chrysler and Plymouth. I currently have 2016 chrysler 200C AWD very fast car. And 2019 Jeep cherokee overland 4x4 with 2.0 liter engine 43,000 miles great vehicle. Staying with MOPAR OR NO CAR!

100 000 miles? If a vehicle cant get 250k miles trouble free then its worthless

100% correct lol I was looking at new model tundras , all had 6 cyl asking $75k

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I meant having great sales.

Great comment. It seems to me, they were failing back in the 60s

Thats been a big mistake

@@Jeff-sp7bg they’re selling well here

@@Eatgrease wheres here?

@@Jeff-sp7bg TX

That’s what I was thinking too. Build quality ought to be the best in the business them.

@@patricktober2816sorry, Jay is too smart. Maybe they could donate it. Would you take it?

@@georgeburns7251 Sure I could take it free.

Well, I think Leno is too smart. Dodge hasn’t been good in 50 years.

That’s actually why Chrysler bought AMC back in the day, it was for Jeep

G.M. spread costs on E.V. development on all products Bob Lutz explained this in video few years ago that why big suburban and Escalade are $100,000 plus about 5 years ago. Biden E.P.A. IS TO BLAME FOR THIS NONSENSE

Wranglers have been priced beyond their market. 50k+ for a Sport hard top with power equipment, 60k+ for a Sahara. That is for a gas Jeep, the hybrids are about 8k+ more!!!

@@mikeodonnell5430 There was a time that I’d agree that Wranglers were overpriced but……The technology that goes into Wranglers now is a significant reason for the higher prices especially for the higher trim levels. Ironically, customers buy the higher priced trim levels but then never take them off road. Stellantis publicly stated their goal was to turn the Jeep brand into a luxury vehicle. They have clearly done that but nothing except Wranglers are selling. Stellantis has recently announced they are going to build a very basic Wrangler next year with none of the expensive technology currently in their higher trim levels. Estimated MSRP $25,000 range. Prototype looks very similar to the India produced “Thar” which is a basic knockoff version of the original Jeep Wrangler. I think I saw a prototype version on a TFL KZfaq. “If” that’s what they are going to build it should be a huge success.

Ha ha, too funny.

Nobody is willing to throw that much money away

@@larryjolicoeur7169how about Trump? He has gone bankrupt so many times, the judge knows his kids.

Just about too say that. Imagine that Roush get their hands on it

Yes, would definitely be ironic, especially considering the fact the DODGE brothers used to manufacture most of the components for FORD back in 1903-1913 and also owned a 10% stake of FORD up to 1919 until their unfortunate passing in 1920. The DODGE brothers played a significant role in helping Ford Motor Company become firmly established!

@ridgebristow1370 yes they did I remember learning that going up in Detroit. Just bring the brand back home.

​@msloan8536 If Ford does buy Dodge then Alot of Dodge Muscle cars will probably have the legendary 5.0L Coyote V8 in it instead of the Hemi V8s.

Showroom hand car wash in Scotch Plains, NJ (they buy and sell cars) has one that is loaded. Sticker is nearly 100k.

It would require many Billion$ and 4 or more years to design and build new models, which would be EV's and hybrids. Few would make that investment with such a long potential ROE and such a high risk. Look at the struggle that Ford and GM are currently in. It just isn't going to happen, IMO. They have no assets or cash and an IPO would be very difficult. Ask yourself, how much money would you charge "The New Dodge" to borrow from your savings?