The world is constantly changing, but God's WORD will never change. Now I understand that these Pastors, Preachers and Bishops are trying to reach this new generation, the lost and confused, and the back-sliders, but please don't get lost in the sauce trying to do so. Remember you are called, therefore responsible for God's people.

People are looking to be delivered,changed,not pacified in sin.

God has a standard. To be disciples means to turn from sin and follow Christ. We can't try to mix and blend with the culture. Be set apart. Come out from among them

The Gospel is enough ❤ you do not have to conform and I'm one of the young ones that didn't grown up In church

When the lost are leading or are the loudest voices, thinking they are pleasing God....Scary! I believe God is disturbed at the state of the "church" that should be trying to be more like Him. Lord have mercy on them and all of us! 🙏🏽

Holy Spirit do not need your help, his word stands alone.

No one is mad. You’re being held accountable. You’re misrepresenting Christ!!

"You don't have to be perfect to be used"... Wow!!! I needed that today

Have to be holy, we are the righteousness of God

I have no "opinion" other than to say, I'll continue to pray for the body of Christ and the leaders. God is sovereign and in control...

Looking at them makes me make sure I am so close to Yaweh! That I am never deceived because this level of deception is really “ eye-opening”, it’s like WOW! How low-de-bar in the depts you can be in error about Yaweh(God)!

Thank You for Explaining so others may understand. Continue to be Bold in order to save Souls

Yes, Let's Be Clear. Nobody Killed Jesus...smh...his purpose was to die!! He GAVE HIS LIFE WILLINGLY...that distinction is important and worth noting!!!

Bishop, I am not sure you moved the church forward. I have heard your perspective on this. But I am not convinced this was a good reason to bend Christian standards of holiness. I believe you crossed the line and wounded the body. Thanks, though, for having the conversation. It's important for people to be able 2 weigh your words and reasons. So, thank you for your transparency.

It seems that neither one of these men understand Jesus. He went to the people and called them out of sin. These men seem to affirm the sin.

To God Be The Glory!!! You have to meet people where they at!!!

I’m speechless! This is so scary! At the end of the day where will your soul rest.

God is Spirit you are spirit. All the millennials are spirit. We have to be relatable to Spirit. Don’t dumb the people down to sense knowledge they are spirits. Jesus came to save our souls and reconnect our spirit to our creator.

I agree with Pastor Murphy. You gotta meet people where they are. Gotta connect the word to the world.

I’m reminded of the water being turned into wine. Yes drink the wine becuz it’s familiar, BUT beware of its INFLUENCE if you drink too much of it, don’t get drunk. Yes play “Walk It Out” because the sound is familiar, but beware releasing the verse lyrics into thee atmosphere because of the INFLUENCE 💡

What I loved about this conversation is how it shows that it's always better to talk TO a person than to talk about a person. I have no idea about the 'surfing' or 'turfing' or the specific details of the incidents that may have occurred that led to this conversation. Nevertheless, as an Anthropologist, a Christian & an academic, who's not North American I appreciate this conversation on so many levels. Go ahead men of GOD. Let GOD arise, spread the gospel & the love of GOD in the world that you'll are called to. We're all working to go to HIS house, HIS heaven. GOD bless you both & remember that not everyone is against you💞💞💞. May the negative noise be muffled & the love of GOD be your carriage.

I have no problem with “moving the church forward” but we must be discerning the Lead of the Holy Spirit as to how! If WE assume a certain way, we leave ourselves open and susceptible to any stimulant or inspiration of culture. Culture should Never be priority over Holy Spirit.

Bishop Murphy you did what ever God lead you to do but most importantly people got saved and wanted to have a relationship with God 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽

So basically we need to lower God standards.. Thank God we have people like Gino Jennings, who preaching holiness

May Yaweh! Reveal himself to all deceived pastors and leaders. May the veil of deception be removed from their eyes.

Murphy is a really good comedian.

Walk it Out is not promoting sanctification. This guy is full of it.

Matthew 7:13-14 13 “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14 [a]Because narrow is the gate and [b]difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.

But we are not supposed to be the same. We are supposed to be different! If I could live the same way that I was living before I gave my heart to Christ and nothing be wrong, why in the world do I need to give my life to Christ then? It makes no sense. If we are not supposed to come out and be separate like the Lord said, then what am I doing? I left the life I had because I wanted something different. I didn't want the same things. This is why the church is failing. It is not because we are not cultural enough or accepting enough. It is because we are accepting the things that God is not pleased with.

I admire Bishop Murphy and nothing is wrong with dedicating a baby back to God no matter who the parents are and people have forgotten that we all were created by God we are his and he is ours and there is no BUTS in that

REAL CLEAR COMPROMISED!!!!!

Yes, BIG ups to Pastor Jamal Bryant for his courage to have the complicated conversations. God is not mad about opening up a space to dialogue, but He is disappointed when we chastise with no willingness to understand perspectives. God is always in the midst where there is an atmosphere for the Body of Christ to come together and operate as members of the Body despite the chaos of moving solely for the culture or how the world system can tear down the value of Godly relationship. The Body will Rise!

I’m glad Jamal Bryant challenged him on some of what he was saying

All praise be to God… The Father, The Son and The Holy Ghost. I will not bash but continue in prayer. These are the last days and Jesus told us these things will be. I am thankful these two decided to have and share this conversation. In reading the comments, I am even more thankful for the Remnant God will always have. Let us watch and pray 👀🙏🏾

"Got Jesus killed" From my understanding Jesus came to die, not to conform. This sounds like,"Strange Fire".

My thing is the Pastor is in fact a song writer, why he just didn’t make a song instead of playing a song that’s was created from the kingdom of darkness. Let start there😅 because as a sinner myself I’m confuse. I’m looking for a way out of the world. I’m looking for a change. Im looking for the str8 and narrow not the highway 🛣 to hell 😂 False Prophets and Teachers are everywhere making us feel comfortable with mixing clean with unclean. Man this is scary

And we are going to swag surf again😂😂❤❤ #Ilovemychurch #dReamCenterChurchofAtlanta

I didn’t know but now I know what’s happening in Murphy’s Church. I can’t relate but it’s not my business, it’s God’s business.

Lord have Mercy

To pastors that we should all stop listening to! And pray for them!!!

Amen ❤🙏🏾

This needs to be heard by all those leaders in the Church who wonder, "Where are the young people?" Yes, God welcomes us into HIS house!

This is why God is still in charge......of my life.❤

My God please help us 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿

Bishop Murphy saying “you don’t have to be perfect…” had more of an impact than a swag surf And a walk it out!!! IJS

Chile, I get what I need from my relationship with God. I will never allow society to determine what that looks like for me personally. Keep doing you Bishop.

Thank You for bringing clarity to this collegial yet controversial conversation, being walked out throughout the Afrina American diaspora, with its many shades of opinion. I appreciate my Duke colleague and friend Dr. Bryant for allowing the mantra of real, relational, relevant, and religious genres of expression to be placed front and center, and given a forum to fully engage the intentionality, the heart of the visionary, and the reflection of their passion behind the narrative, so we may all examine its content with a lens of discernment and not judgment. May God grant us the courage, as Bishop Murphy, to reach the present age, our calling to fulfill.

This is the very reason the Bible says study and show thyself approved. To take the book of Acts and the moving of the Holy Spirit and make it worldly is the reason there are so many issues in the church. How dare you??? That was a move of God, that was the coming of the Holy Spirit. That was an example of trusting The Word of God, thus, being obedient to what Jesus said. In their obedience what God said through His Word came forth. They didn’t say, you know what, there are so many people out there, let’s get interpreters that speak their language to save their souls, and justify us doing it our way and say, but there were thousands of souls saved. The Bible says obedience is better than sacrifice, OBEDIENCE!!! Therefore, the Apostles displayed obedience and Jesus’ Word came forth as it was spoken. Again, no where in God’s Word does it say, “Man, you figure out a way to get their attention because My Way (which is not our ways) and My thoughts (which are not our thoughts) are no longer good enough to do it. It’s 2024 and I no longer have the power to save souls through My Word, and the Obedience of those sharing it My Way. I need your help. Don’t look to My Word to save souls, you figure out a way to do it and we’ll go with that, because it’s evident Myself, Jesus & The Holy Spirit didn’t take into consideration, the year 2000 was coming. We didn’t think that far ahead, (although God knew the end from the beginning) we did not take into consideration in 2024, The Word of God would no longer be good enough to save souls. It has to be done a different way so it’s palatable.” Righteous judgement is indeed in order!!! Study and show thyself approved, if it doesn’t line up with The Word of God, IT’s WRONG!!! Period

Half of yall sinning and going to church right now and God still loves and receive you! Stop with the condemnation and Judgement! Let the Holy Spirit do the work inside of people and YOU love like the First commandment instructed. It’s prideful to think that your sin is less than another! Until you understand this you will remain bound! The fact that many think they can have an opinion on what God is going in this season is sad! God is working through this man to save souls and yall worried about the Sin. Look in the mirror people! That reflection will consistently stare back at you into you look at what God is reflecting!

One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism

Love this 💓💕

Eph. 5. [27] That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish

Talk and preach Holiness and then see who really want too live for Christ.

We should make a difference we can’t be like the world. God bless you I’m gonna pray for you, too lead the people wrong you gonna get count to God preach the gospel.

Acts 2: Miracle

Think it not strange🤔 this conversation is very much needed and necessary.Can we talk and agree or disagree without being being disagreeable🤔 I believe God is expanding his kingdom pouring out his Spirit on all men.

bottom line, we are not supposed to conform to the World, the world is supposed to conform to us.

The Lord has been wanting me to pray for you both. May the Lord for you both wisdom in this season.

I ❤ that this happened and what the traditional saints don’t approve of is that we need to reach folk where they are and I ❤️that Bishop said we need to be relatable.

Worship is within and it starts there

MIRACLES HAPPEN IN MY LIFE GOING TO DREAM CENTER OF ATLANTA THE TRUTH GO YOURSELF BEFORE U JUDGE..GET IN WHERE U FIT IN AMEN❤❤

❤ God is good 💯✊🙌💯

The sad part is we are so critical about stuff we really don't know. Love is what these brothers represent. Their haters will destroy people about things they don't know and understand. Blessings to you both.

At 9:35 Ok Pastor Murphy was referring to Amos 3:3 "Can two walk together except they be agreed?" Once again, threw another scripture out the window and inserted his own philosophy.. This guy here...

So true

The lyrics....the lyrics.... Let's be clear.... we can meet people where they are without polluting the relationship with Christ.

Why couldn’t you have sung, “Walk With Me Lord?!”

If I can come to church and identify with the world ie. the club, am I at church? Now don't think that God can't bless people in foolishness.

Relatable and Pat able

Yaweh(God) doesn’t need to borrow from Satan to save people.

Wowwwww!!! This was good. Thank you for your insight and wisdom. 🫶🏾

You invite Yaweh! Into your church because you must surrender to Him. You must say you choose to follow Yaweh’s plan!

Exodus 25:

I love this conversation. It is definitely thought provoking!! I don’t agree with everything being said but it is absolutely an important dialogue.

☀️🙏🏾🌅😌❤️ very important conversation. much respect.

All I can say is God needs no help from the devil or his devices to win those that are in darkness. How can you use dark tools to witness to this that are in darkness to bring them into light? At the end of the day it’s manipulation. God does does not work in manipulation.

ITS STILL ABOUT JESUS ITS NOT ABOUT ME, YOU , THEM ITS STILL ABOUT JESUS 🙏🏽

Awesome discussion

The Anointing Breaks The Yoke… Isaiah 10:27

2 false prophets hash it out.

THESE MEN ARE NECESSARY MAYBE NOT TO MANY BUT TO SOME OR MAYBE NOT SOME BUT MANY BUT WHAT CANNOT HAPPEN IS WE CANNOT BRING THE WORLD 🌎 INTO THE CHURCH THE BIBLE CLEARLY SAYS BE OF THE WORLD 🌎 BUT NOT IN IT SO AGREE 👍🏿 TO SOME BUT NOT TO ALL MAY THE LORD BLESS US SO THAT WE CAN CLEARLY HERE HIS VOICE I’M NO PREACHER,TEACHER,NOR BISHOP BUT I’M A WITNESS AND MAY THE BLESS YOU PASTOR AND BISHOP THAT WE CAN ALL BE WHAT THE LORD HAS TRULY CALLED US TOO BE

This is disgusting!They just let anyone call themselves pastors!!!

God don’t need your help to draw the young people in , all YOU have to do is preach HIS WORD

Jesus is the perfect blueprint why do we feel that’s not good enough? They can have culture Give me the Holy spirit!

What are those pink bracelets Jamal is wearing. Murphy loves name dropping to validate himself- Leviathan manifesting loud and clear.

Good conversation

Pastor this is good this the second podcast I listened to ! Good job!

Wow....

God's Word, holiness and pureness transcends any culture period! There will surely be no Swag Surfin in heaven..... you best believe that! God has never had to borrow anything from the world to draw men unto Him! WILL THE REAL SAINTS PLEASE ACT LIKE THEY BELONG TO A PURE AND HOLY GOD!!!!!

If and when they come give ‘em the word of god !! He said Sanctify them through by word the word is truth. The word of God will sanctify us set us apart not music.

God’s Kingdom over EVERYTHING. To include, culture, religion, sin, etc. since when did the sanctuary of God become a den of thieves and the people are okay with it, even when Jesus was not??? The sanctuary is and should be a Holy place. Jesus NEVER compromised Himself (Jesus being The Word) i.e The Word, for anyone, not even to save souls. The Kingdom’s currency is faith, our faith in God’s Word is…what it says and we believe it for what it says! God’s word doesn’t leave room for compromise, no matter how man tries to imply that or compromise. His Word, is His Word, is His Word. It doesn’t say we are in this world and should work to be a part of the world to get their attention, to be relevant and bring the ways of the world into God’s Holy sanctuary so people can be saved. Again, if Jesus didn’t compromise, who is The Word and was indeed our example, what is the argument??? Men died going into the temple of God for not being repenting and being clean…because that was a Holy place. We can’t compromise God’s Word to gain souls, that’s not what it’s about. If you compromise to save their souls, they’re going to think it’s okay to compromise their walk. Teach The Word as it is in Scripture and allow God to move. We plant the seed, Apollo waters and God Provides the increase. We can’t make excuses for compromising God’s Word, it’s wrong, point, blank period!!! To show new Christian’s to Christ, it’s okay to be worldly (carnal) the thing clearly in the Bible that says we are not to be a part of, and serve Christ goes against The Word of God. It’s in The Word, man can’t change that because souls came to Christ because they came under a false pretense. It was, let me do it my way, instead of God’s way. There is no book of Usher in the Bible. God Help us when we want to fill your Kingdom our way…the Bible is and should always be our First & Final Authority!!! If it’s isn’t in The Word, it’s wrong!!! Period. Paul got at Peter for compromising in the New Testament….Galatians 2:11. God Bless, let’s stop adding to God’s Word, compromising and making excuses and do it His way. In doing that I guarantee you, He will indeed save the souls. It’s Him who saves, not us…❤❤❤

This was a great interview! Keep standing on business.

The word can be relatable NOT COMPROMISED !!

“Bring them in and teach them whole!” Quote: made by, Renee Brown -author, actor singer and director of Gods words on earth! 🌍

The way you can tell the church people from the worldly people is BY THEIR FRUITS. People and media did the same ridicule to Kirk Franklin in the 90's. Now the church music sounds more secular, and it is not a problem today. Too worried about what something looks like instead of noticing if the message is being conveyed and it is drawing near the unsaved to salvation.

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Acts 3:

Jesus nobody take his life he laid it down sir . Come on here 🙏 🙏

I would say to him, young man, allow the Holy Spirit to teach you, humility and how to listen. You don't have to depend the Gospel of Jesus Christ. It stands on its own, every time.

They should be a difference,God remains the same