Why You Shouldn't Hang APs on the Wall Like a Clock

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Chapters:
00:00 - Start
00:48 - Ekahau
03:02 - Putting Access Point on the Wall Like a clock
04:10 - Reasons You Should Not Put the Access Point on the Wall Like a Clock

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@musicinsession
@musicinsession Жыл бұрын
It's down to the use case! If you only have 1 AP and you happen to live in a townhouse with say 3 floors (ground, 1st and 2nd), if you put the AP on the wall like a clock in the middle floor, set the transmit to high and find the right frequency /channel you will have great results across all 3 floors, depending of course of the dept of the middle room! If you put it on the ceiling, either you will need multiple APs (for each floor of the house), or you will have to put it on the top floor/attic but your ground floor will have 1/5 of the throughput. It's really down to the use case.
@MarkusMayrl
@MarkusMayrl 3 жыл бұрын
This time I am not sure I can fully agree. On one hand, if I mount the AP on a wall I do not expect coverage behind that wall. And in many environments the propagation of the signal will be directed more into the room due to the reflections of the walls, floor and ceiling. While I am a fan of placing the AP in the middle of the room on the (not too high) ceiling, we have seen in real life measurements that in most cases the differences are marginal in comparison to a wall mounted version. Regarding polarization this is a relation between sender and receiver antennas. So it is easier to predict for laptop PCs, as they usually stand on a desk, but harder for devices like mobile phones and tablets. And - to be fair - many laptops have a few antennas to account for different polarization, on the edges of the screen or in the base.
@WiFiTube
@WiFiTube 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Markus, thank you for sharing your experience! I was thinking about real world values and experience, especially related to "polarization". I know that a polarization mismatch can cost up to 6dB, especially on PTP links. But I‘m not sure if the same applies in indoor environments with all the moving devices, reflexions and the way the different devices are used/positioned.
@steveblunt8837
@steveblunt8837 3 жыл бұрын
I have only ever used a wall mounted Omni in staircases to provide a simple solution to vertical coverage. But like Keith says WiFi tends to be resilient
@shoarectube
@shoarectube Жыл бұрын
My problem with this example is using a football pitch to model a room, then proceeding to hang the AP to an imaginary wall in the middle of the pitch. I get it that in some situations this will become important, but outside professional deployments where you also have the luxury of pulling wires as needed, most situations call for less then ideal deployments and some lateral thinking. Mathematically it may be wrong, but from an engineering standpoint, we can rely on some wifi resilience.
@aniwack
@aniwack 7 ай бұрын
Great explanation of how signal work. I found myself in a predicament where the service stack runs up the core of the house. I had to for space restrictions put an access point on the middle level of a three story house like a clock to cover the area that the metal stack was blocking. It now covers all the dead zones the stack naturally generates.
@mikespilligan1490
@mikespilligan1490 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely incredible I'm troubleshooting a factory at the moment and used your video as a basis for installation checks. Thanks so much for sharing your experience and knowledge I'm extremely grateful.
@gregleitschuh8578
@gregleitschuh8578 10 ай бұрын
Great useful video and well presented. Answered my question! Thanks
@justamusta
@justamusta Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Excellent video.
@steveblunt8837
@steveblunt8837 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent, your quick clips have saved me time again in having to explain to clients why they should be using a professional designer and why their existing deployments are suboptimal! Keep up the good work
@WirelessLANProfessionals
@WirelessLANProfessionals 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to help, Steve! Thanks for watching!
@Tobske
@Tobske 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this great video💪🏻
@WirelessLANProfessionals
@WirelessLANProfessionals 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it, Tobske!
@discy12345
@discy12345 3 жыл бұрын
Great! Thanks
@johncarter2383
@johncarter2383 Жыл бұрын
if you hang it like a clock on a boundary this looks good (apart from the 6db loss ) as your neighbour is in the deadzone
@nelsontovars
@nelsontovars 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. 👏
@WirelessLANProfessionals
@WirelessLANProfessionals 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Nelson! 👍
@myvid222
@myvid222 Жыл бұрын
Would placing it on a floor or a table be as good as the ceiling if there are no obstructions?
@abbesbenmaissa4980
@abbesbenmaissa4980 3 жыл бұрын
great video
@WirelessLANProfessionals
@WirelessLANProfessionals 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, Abbes!
@James_Knott
@James_Knott Жыл бұрын
There may be times when you want to mount on a wall. However, check the radiation pattern before you choose the AP you're going to install. Some have better signal on the dome side than others. Of course, the back side will always be poor. Also, some brands, such as Unifi, have APs that are intended to be mounted in a utility box on the wall.
@mrericvollbrecht
@mrericvollbrecht 3 жыл бұрын
With the Ruckus R710 that you show your polarization statement is inaccurate. Most Ruckus AP have polarization diversity built in which will adjust the polarization to match the client device. Even if the AP is mounted on the ceiling, the polarization of the client is likely to be dynamic (phone, tablet) and not match the AP, unless it can also adjust. Lookup PD-MRC for more details.
@WiFiTube
@WiFiTube 3 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a cool feature/technology! Especially in indoor environments, where devices are constantly moving and are also used in different ways and positions.
@SuperStanislovas
@SuperStanislovas 3 жыл бұрын
keep dreaming, it does not work in practice, very well tested
@XSFlanger
@XSFlanger 4 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot! I bought enterprise grade Aironet 3800 APs for home with internal antennas and actually thought they're frontally directional. Then I was wondering, how can one thin wooden wall be such an interference for signal :D
@MattTaylor7
@MattTaylor7 Жыл бұрын
what if you wanted to keep the wifi in only your house? Having a couple on the perimeter walls and one or two central ones on the ceiling depending on home size
@98f5
@98f5 11 ай бұрын
build a faraday cage into your exterior walls.
@sparkzhu
@sparkzhu Жыл бұрын
But how about wall panel ap?
@GreG1HM
@GreG1HM 5 ай бұрын
I have maybe a strange question, but after a purchase of Unifi U6 Enterprise AP I see in manual that it can be mounter both on wall and cieling, so why Unifi then is recommending wall mounting if your story is correct?
@MrPauley
@MrPauley Жыл бұрын
What if I just put it on a wall on the edge of my property?
@jeffm2787
@jeffm2787 3 жыл бұрын
Just thought of another problem, what is the polarization of a smart phone, a tablet, a watch, a laptop, or even an IOT device for that matter. Sometimes the rules are not the best solution. For the most part your video holds up to best practice.
@MajorTendonitis
@MajorTendonitis Жыл бұрын
I didn’t want to look at an AP on my ceiling , so I built a corner shelf in my living room about 4’ high ,and mounted it underneath. Doing a speed test I don’t see any loss in download speeds whether my iPad is under the AP or where I sit in my living room . So all I’m saying is so far so good
@kenc7794
@kenc7794 3 ай бұрын
Cool you made the Omni semi-directional 😅
@ravikumar-lu2tp
@ravikumar-lu2tp 3 жыл бұрын
Please make a video on significance of the OPERATING CLASSES..
@WirelessLANProfessionals
@WirelessLANProfessionals 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion, Ravi! You can check out our other posts about operating class on our website!
@philipp9800
@philipp9800 3 жыл бұрын
My house has two stories - this means I should not install the ap in the first story on the ceiling but should install it on a table to optimize it for the second floor :-) But ubiquity calls it's mounting kid "wall mounting kid"....
@WiFiTube
@WiFiTube 3 жыл бұрын
It all depends on the AP itself. Ubiquiti even sells APs which "are designed" to be mounted at/in the wall: inwall.ui.com/
@philipp9800
@philipp9800 3 жыл бұрын
@@WiFiTube I found a link with the unifi's antenna patterns help.ui.com/hc/en-us/articles/115005212927-UniFi-UAP-Antenna-Radiation-Patterns
@Lens98052
@Lens98052 2 жыл бұрын
Alternatively, you could put it on the floor of a basement, like in a garage.
@Mike-fs3bv
@Mike-fs3bv 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t you love marketing departments “put it on the wall it looks better.”
@James_Knott
@James_Knott Жыл бұрын
Well, there you have it. You must mount on a wall! 🙂
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