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Omg yes! Many times.😂 I announce it “ You exhaust me I am going to nap!”

Truth😆

I can totally relate. I had inlaws from he!!, too. I used to take refuge in the bathroom!

Family members do this all the time......😅

I seen the top of her head

​@@dajoker8998profound.

I don’t think she protected her mental health. I think she thought changing her identity would change her into a better person and give her a better life, but in reality it made her more paranoid. Instead, she went deeper into mental illness.

@@dajoker8998 congratulations for failing at passing off a joke from a crappy movie as your own.

something obviously caused her to seriously withdraw, something that to her was traumatic. She decided that being with anyone was too uncomfortable. I am surprised that she met a man and got married though.

That was an excellent comment!!!

Wtf lol lmao smd

Love his shirts and home decor..they hv a beautiful home 🏡 ❤️

If I understood the story correctly, she had 4 names. So that would be 2 noids x 2. Double paranoids. 😘 She could have used a good, friendly girlfriend. Or a pet. I’m only speculating, maybe she was missing some love component in her early years, that she was never able to rectify. Kinda sad.

And notice his thing for cactuses. They are all around him!

Government agent?

I am thinking of legally changing my name when I am out of my current situation. It has certainly never crossed my mind to steal somebody's identity, whether that person is deceased or still alive. In my opinion, I feel that this is a very drastic thing to do and goes to show her desperation to get away.

There were , and probably still are, several underground pamphlets on changing identity... advertised in underground newsletters.

She might have used a so called identity broker. I see quite a few acts regarding the identity change that point towards having sophisticated knowledge: the birth certificate with out of state death, changing name before obtaining SS number...back then it wasn't that hard to change identity if you knew what to do. She probably got help for that

The impressive part is that she had to have found a dead person's identity to be able to get the birth certificate in the first place.

Yes, it raises so many questions about why someone would do this; either she was actually afraid of someone or she was extremely paranoid without cause. The fact that her parents/relatives did not try to contact her when she left for good at only 18 might say something significant about them; they may have understood why she left and if her father's behavior was the cause of her leaving, it makes sense that she did not want money she could have inherited from him. How would she have known the money was coming, anyway? If she knew, it would have blown her cover I'm sure her sister was more than happy to sit and wait

@@gigi9301 very valid point about the father. Because her parents divorced though, i thought it may have been the stepfather, but i don't want to speculate too much. It's a really sad story, i wish she could have gotten the help she needed, instead of trying to navigate the world on her own at 18.

Why hide from her friends, mistreating doesn't make sense and it isn't the catalyst for all forms of evasive or erratic behaviour. She just as easily could of had schizophrenic symptoms.

@@NoNameNomad.... You can't just assume a man is evil because he is a man, when there is zero evidence. That's just as bad as saying I bet the mother manipulated the child into paranoia because women do that sometimes....

​@@kingcosworth2643, I agree with you, a schizophrenic woman.

Dang, I hope you’re doing okay. For real.

Bless you ❤

After a teenaged pregnancy and some miscommunication of feelings my daughter walked away with my grandson. I miss her desperately. She had the best laugh. I miss every single thing about them. It will be my dying wish to see her again. It's been 12 years.

That must be very painful & 12 years is incredibly long to miss out on all that time. I'm so sorry you've gone through that. I hope one day, she changes her mind or your grandson wonders & wants to meet you..

@@mraereed i will pray for reconciliation. 🙏🏼

Thank you!

Thanks for the info 🙏

Thanks for the info. I see also that Wikipedia has an article on her, under Lori Erica Ruff.

Any mention in the book about what was in the other letter? Dr. Grande doesn't mention anything about it, maybe because it was kept private?

@@jimgutt749 It was only said to be gibberish and mad ramblings. Perhaps the family wants to keep it private so that’s all they’re saying.

My friend did the same thing in Michigan in 1985. We were both 15, too. She got a job at Hardee’s. It didn’t last too long because they did find out her age from her paperwork and fired her over it. She wasn’t 16 like she told them and they didn’t hire below 16. I had another couple of friends that were paid under the table back then when they were 15 at a restaurant. All the other employees there were paid legally with taxes taken out, my friends told me.

I am surprised she even got a ssn in reverse. I would think that would be hard to do.

I know everyday it’s insane I wait everyday and watch him while eating breakfast after gym

And hilarious.

I watched all his non-true crime videos multiple times, except of the ones about statistics.

Yeah I dunno, I always thought he was amazing. But then I failed out of medical school because I refused to diagnose anyone, and would only speculate about what COULD be happening in a situation LIKE this. Dr. Grande led me astray.

​@@jackdanson2😂😂😂😅😅😅

This only your theory your opinion

​@dajoker8998 that's just about the only way you can form a theory. You are strange.

Actually studies have consistently pointed to a necessity for a strong support system. Socialization is strongly recommended for every age group

@@dajoker8998 But was it item #5 or #6? 😊

@@dajoker8998 you are a terrible troll

I completely get where you're coming from. However, as a person that has suffered severe abuse and neglect as a child, you cannot blame this in environment. Lots of people go through horrible childhoods and this doesnt happen. People have great childhoods and turn out doing awful things too. CPS should've been called so many times it was ridiculous while I grew up in the 70s and 80s. This is not typical behavior even from somebody who is severely abused. I have a laundry list of mental health disorders, including CPTSD, anxiety, and depression. I am even autistic + ADHD and I would never do something like this. In my opinion, and obviously I'm not a doctor, this is antisocial and sociopathic. Every single thing she did was done AND PLANNED to harm those that she said she loved. She wanted them to know who she really was and to be hurt by that information Otherwise she would've gotten rid of it and not killed herself by in front of her Father-in-law. Take it from somebody who has been suicidal for years at a time.... It is a dark and scary place To be. However her main purpose was to harm others, not free herself. It's never ok; i want To be clear about that. It is an illness, nonetheless. Obviously she wasn't working on her treatment, and blamed others. 😢

@@angelasanchez4413 You have made very good points - ultimately, it is up to the individual to decide to do or not to do something wrong, whether or not mental health plays a part. I do hope that in spite of your challenges that you are doing ok❤❤

@@aheimdahl5201 I have had to work on myself for 27 years; and work very very hard. However, I have found that despite my challenges, life is worth living. It is not easy most days, but there is ALWAYS something to be grateful for. There is ALWAYS someone whom has had it worse than me. I can always contribute to community somewhere 🤘🏼💕 Thank you so much for asking 😃 We are all ultimately responsible for our own path

@@aheimdahl5201 I would just add that mental health issues make some things in life uncontrollable and so the choices we all make vary depending on our mental state. A "good" person can do something "wrong" as it is too difficult for them mentally to do the "right" thing, if they even really know what the "right" thing is. We don't all really have control over our fate by our decisions. The idea that we each control ourselves and our future 100% is comforting to those capable of making usually good decisions. There is too much chaos in the universe for a person to control 100% over themselves.

Hell yeah! Dr. Grande broke out da party shirt!

Yeah, I saw some cactus stuff at target and I thought of Dr. Grande

Keep the commentary till the end. Hell you didn't even watch this video before commenting.

​​@@perhapsbutmaybedid someone hand out acid and tell people to watch this video? What the hell are some of these replies? Some guy talking about seeing the top of her head and then this comment which is just fucking weird. What do you even mean? He fucking likes his cactus. How would waiting until the end of the video have benefited him?

@@perhapsbutmaybe since my comments get deleted. What the hell are you even talking about?

yeah, not to use an overused phrase, but that was a red flag for me. you don't describe a person as "forgettable" and you show concern when a loved one runs away. i wonder if she was hoping they'd be sad and ask her to stay.

Most likely they knew her strange behaviour and just accepted that she wanted to leave.

Or maybe she killed somone

Exactly. _Something_ happened for her to walk away like that. People don't generally walk away from happy and supportive families, never to return. I suspect that there are secrets being kept within her birth family that no one will speak about.

I think she felt that her trauma was nobody's business. She loved her husband and child. I wish they would have been left alone to just love each other and raise their child together. 😢

Absolutely, there were probably skeletons in that family's closet. Very sad story.

I don’t see that here. I’m with Dr. G.

I agree. I feel really bad for this lady.

Projecting your own experiences & feelings onto a stranger, after hearing a pretty limited amount of backstory probably isn’t the best way to go. “There’s no evidence of childhood mistreatment, but because I went through it, I’ll assume she did too” 😬

@@isitoveryet9525 assuming she didn’t is also incorrect. There is the event of her leaving so suddenly, so I would say there is evidence of something happening more than there isn’t.

I think her stepdad had something to do with it.

That's just your theory, your opinion.

I speak the intro too, except I'm not autistic. Only theorising what it could be like being autistic in a situation like this.

i like to speak the intro too. i do it with a lot of things. steve lehto is good at doing the same intro 😂 “Welcome once again to Lehto’s Law! Here’s Steve Lehto.” gets me every time esp bc he usually uploads twice a day.

I just always respond "Hi Dr. Grande!!!" after he introduces himself Lol

I agree.

I suspect she either stumbled onto family shenanigans that made her fearful of retaliation if they knew she found out, perhaps witnessing something horrific, or they made her childhood unbearable. Regardless of whether or not they actively did something to her, or she thought they might do something eventually, they certainly failed her in every way possible. Not looking for your teenage child after they abruptly leave (even if that's what she told them she wanted), waiting until it was a business matter of discharging an estate, is not the action of a caring family. Even if it was 100% pure paranoid delusion, you'd think a mother would report someone grappling with serious mental problems missing.

​@@weaviejeebies agreed, it seemed like the perfect opportunity to bait her into revealing her location and making it that much harder to relocate and start all over again

It’s not odd! Some people just don’t like or want to be around their family! Whether it’s due emotional,physical, substance or sexual abuse. It’s obviously one of those reasons so how is that odd? There are many messed up families out there and some people just want no part of them.

That is pure speculation. There are many other possibilities. For instance, she may simply have been on the autism spectrum. Her social awkwardness could be evidence of ASD. She may have been a narcissist who was trying to punish her family members for not giving in to her; her willingness to commit identity theft would support that theory.

​@@jamesbowman6925There's nothing wrong with speculating about a situation like this.😊

@@jamesbowman6925 Yes, that's possible. She could have had undiagnosed autism. Descriptions suggest she had difficulty with communication and interpersonal relationships and didn't feel like she belonged. Autism was very rarely diagnosed in women back then unless behaviors were fairly severe. It's possible though that she could have had ASD and been abused in some way. I guess no one will really ever know. Quite tragic.

Usually the person is religious and they want to have/hide the sausage, as was the case with these Christians. It is a flawed system with stabilizing benefits for society, but a profound penalty to the individual when they choose wrong, which often happens.

People make do with arranged marriages all over the world. Some work, some don’t.

This confounds me too. I'm married so I try to imagine doing all this as a ruse. It's incredible to me how people can maintain the act.

​​@@ClaireBeattyIn arranged marriages, the parents meet several times to investigate background and compatibility. The families are not unknown to each other, and often have known each other for some years.

@@messrsandersonco5985 True enough. But the couple don’t know each other very well, if at all. A few chaperoned meetings perhaps. Some families look for potential matches through newspaper advertisements. But apparently the rate of success of such marriages is about the same as Western “love matches”.

Her family of origin was found through research & DNA. The full story is told in the short story, "The Woman in the Strongbox".

I would take every penny from the family members who abused me, but I get your point.

@@valkyriehutton4556Totally get it.

She loved her Dad. He's the only person who had her contact info. She only disappeared for good after his death.

The person Lori did not get along with was her stepdad & her mother.

That was the first thing that came to my mind.

yup. perhaps not that, but she was a very odd, come, disturbed person.

That seems possible. That could explain her difficulties dealing with everyday social situations. Another explanation could be a cluster A type personality disorder. Schizofrenia seems less likely, it would manifest in less subtle ways.

Autism would not explain her last talkative weeks.

@@cesarincamendozaloyola4407 You think folks with autism are not chatty? That's not true at all!

He asked for opinions and thoughts about the video to generate dialogue. The only dialogue you're going to create is people saying they like the dude. Did you even watch the video

​@@perhapsbutmaybe In addition to creating interesting dialogue, the purpose of commenting is to show engagement so that the KZfaq algorithm will recommend it to others! I love to support channels that I am grateful for.

Dont be weird

I do that too so I don’t forget. I like the length of his videos and his calming voice. This case was very odd, right up my alley

I do too.

@Dm_DrGrande nope, spam

i do that with all videos that i start. if something changes my mind (like cursing God). i then change it to thumbs down and stop watching it.

Sounds like BPD. I have it and relate

Lori's mother and only bio sister are pretty tight-lipped. Her daughter was just 2 when her mother died. And she's still a minor.

I agree. Her inlaws had to be rather stressful for a sweet, quiet person who just wanted to be left alone.

That's interesting. So Lori's inlaws wanted to trace her true identity so they could collect benefits? That's revolting. I wondered why they went to so much trouble to contact friends in govt in D.C.. Good grief. They tormented her in life. In death, they just wanted a pay out.

I agree. Most people do take their darkest secrets to the grave.

Since the Coleen Ballinger incident, a KZfaqr would be more likely to call their first born child Karen than have a ukelele in their video.

Exactly. My parents are abusive narcissists and I've thought about telling people the same thing

Her Dad is the person she would go to when she ran away from her mother & stepdad. Her Dad is the only person who had her last contact info. This was revealed in his will. He died a year after she left Philly for good. She changed identity AFTER his death. She loved her Dad.