Postal Worker with Imaginary Friend Murders Seven People | Jennifer San Marco Case Analysis

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Dr. Todd Grande

Dr. Todd Grande

Ай бұрын

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@rayross997
@rayross997 Ай бұрын
When buying a gun Homer Simpson was told there had to be a 5 day background check. He responded to the clerk with, "but I'm mad now!"
@lisabradford8180
@lisabradford8180 Ай бұрын
😂😂
@youssef16844
@youssef16844 Ай бұрын
Gun clerk: "And this is for shooting down police helicopters." Homer: "Oh I don't need anything like that... yet."
@vicvega3614
@vicvega3614 Ай бұрын
Lol thats definitely a top 5 episode. He uses the gun to change the channels on the tv 😅
@CarlottaTrouble
@CarlottaTrouble Ай бұрын
Exactly. The Simpsons still haven't gotten old. Some things never change.
@bold810
@bold810 Ай бұрын
He also gasped "There's a NEW Mexico?!". 🤣🤣🤣
@JohnAragon-tz3zu
@JohnAragon-tz3zu Ай бұрын
Hello Dr. Todd, I am a retired Correctional Officer, I worked with Jennifer San Marco when she was employed at CRC in Norco, Ca. Jennifer originally was employed at Chuckawalla State Prison, Blythe, whereas she was fired for having sex with male inmates. CRC s Warden after a time allowed Jennifer to return as a C O. , then promoted her to a rank of Sergeant. A few months later, Jennifer picked up her inmate boy friend from the Blythe prison, He just paroled, and traveled to Arizona and robbed a convenience store, using Jennifers gun, then returned to California whereas CHP units stopped them on interstate 10 thus arresting them both. During a search of Jennifer car, her CDC Sgt. uniformed and weapon was discovered. She was fired again. I am at a loss as why she never did ant time, nor why a county sheriff would employ her as a dispatcher. Jennifer was a self centered psycho when I worked with her, always seem to please the Warden. Dr. Todd your time line is on, date and years are correct, but I added personal background regarding Sgt. Jennifer San Marco.
@hrdley911
@hrdley911 Ай бұрын
Wow. Just wow...
@yikesyikes5974
@yikesyikes5974 Ай бұрын
I am always intrigued by people who personally knew these people. Wow this is insightful.
@mrbriceno3949
@mrbriceno3949 Ай бұрын
The government doesn’t care they will continue to let us down and continue to let our neighbors and family members be killed… A hotline could’ve prevented this trgedy unfortunately public officials are not held accountable in USA 🇺🇸
@sandybitter4609
@sandybitter4609 Ай бұрын
The red flags in this particular case are simply overwhelming!
@mtss9566
@mtss9566 Ай бұрын
Thank you. Very interesting.
@JE4-1
@JE4-1 Ай бұрын
I was working that day on overtime since it was normally my day off. I knew Jennifer San Marco quite well, she would sit with me sometimes at lunch wanting to know how to buy stocks which I knew a lot about. I also knew everyone she killed, they were my co-workers who I had worked with everyday for years. When she started she was a great worker and very friendly, but after about a year that changed and she became a completely different person. Many believed that she had stopped taking her medication but no one really knows. I first noticed it when I said "Hi Jennifer" and she didn't respond but gave me an angry look. I thought maybe I had offended her in some way, I just didn't understand it because she had spoken friendly to me almost everyday for more than a year before that. Anyway, the night it happened, I heard the gunshots while I was scanning Priority Mail and then everyone started to run to the dock where the trucks were, for safety. Dexter Shannon was one week away from retirement. Charlotte Colton was an employee trainer. She actually was not working that night, she had just popped in for a few minutes to leave off some paperwork, even though she could have done it the next morning. A deaf employee that she really liked when she worked there, was at the time clock ready to leave when she spotted him. He later told me she smiled at him and then went on her way, he was spared! Right after she shot Charlotte Colton, she aimed her gun at the head of a lady employee who would have been killed for sure, except for the fact that her gun jammed, giving time for that employee to escape. I had worked at that office since 1989 and loved working there, but after that happened in 2006 it just wasn't the same. I happily took early retirement in January 2013, after 23 years. RIP my beautiful friend 😢 You left us too soon..😭🙏
@camillecoccagna194
@camillecoccagna194 Ай бұрын
So sorry you had to experience this
@SuperRockinRobert
@SuperRockinRobert Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your story. Peace be with you.
@hollyberry2752
@hollyberry2752 Ай бұрын
I'm so sorry you lost friends from a crazy person. God bless you
@Heiscomingbacksoon7
@Heiscomingbacksoon7 Ай бұрын
That took alot of courage to write about. Thank you, and I am truly sorry you had to experience that. 😢
@maryannebphillips9124
@maryannebphillips9124 Ай бұрын
God Bless
@roryrubymace3749
@roryrubymace3749 Ай бұрын
I've worked as a mail processing clerk for about 12 years now. It really does take A LOT for them to fire people here 🤣
@lorirausch3326
@lorirausch3326 Ай бұрын
I worked as a rural carrier for 9 years, they wouldn’t fire me so I was forced to quit!
@shinrugal
@shinrugal Ай бұрын
It's almost impossible to leave government jobs which is why I am going out on disability like my mother did years ago.
@PetieLee
@PetieLee Ай бұрын
I worked as a career mail processing clerk for 3 years or so, mostly working night shift. There are A LOT of issues as to why those postal workers go "postal". I'm thankful for the time I had at the post office but couldn't or wouldn't do it again. I found that most people got wiggy at the post office processing plant just needed sleep! Average sleep for the clerks I was working with was about 2-6 hours of sleep during the day. Kudos to all postal workers out there!!!
@crystalhaataja304
@crystalhaataja304 Ай бұрын
Dude for real. This lady straight up committed a felony in our office, boss fought to keep her job. same lady didn't show up for like a month, still didn't fire her until some crazy stuff happened. Carrier at a friend of mines office was caught burning mail. Didn't get fired. We even learned about that person in my training. I later found out It was that carrier. I was shook.
@david-dj8or
@david-dj8or Ай бұрын
These days working at schools even if people think you might do something is enough to get you fired.
@WeekendsOutsideFL
@WeekendsOutsideFL Ай бұрын
Oh the days when you could just get a regular job and… buy a condo
@evelynwaugh4053
@evelynwaugh4053 Ай бұрын
Actually, the USPS was considered a very well paid job back then.
@_borger
@_borger Ай бұрын
lol, oh yea, I assumed she must have had some sort of family money or inheritance.
@TianXiaoMao
@TianXiaoMao Ай бұрын
I thought the same thing. 😢
@Tailionis
@Tailionis Ай бұрын
​@@evelynwaugh4053back than. I work for the usps now. Can't afford any home on a single income.
@stlounsbury
@stlounsbury Ай бұрын
🙏
@breathnstop
@breathnstop Ай бұрын
Working nights is so unhealthy. Also many psych patients I met as a nurse used racial slurs when florridly psychotic and were horrified once they got medicine and stabilized. They were totally different and when well, were often ashamed and apologetic anout their behavior.
@carpathianken
@carpathianken Ай бұрын
When I was involuntarily locked up for a drug induced psychosis from amphetamine use whereby I wouldn't sleep for days, I got self destructive & negatively abusive with myself but never with the psych nurses or mental health professionals. I got along well with all the psych hospital staff , but the other patients were so frustrating & unreasonable & they pissed me off no end. They'd be contrary & overtly aggressive, never answer questions when the psych nurses asked them questions to try to get a gauge on how they were progressing mentally & they'd never participate in the classes & group therapy sessions, which I would have thought would help them progress to wellness if they did. Many of them would get illicit marijuana smuggled in & smoke it in our rooms & it was their use of potent weed that got them institutionalised in the first place...I hope the patients that did apologise to you were genuine & they made an effort to raise their standards when their psychosis subsided.
@wilhelmhagberg4897
@wilhelmhagberg4897 Ай бұрын
Yes, I think it’s important to stress that a person suffering from psychosis isn’t ”revealing their true character” (like an alcoholic might do) but can act in ways totally unrelated to their normal self.
@lisabradford8180
@lisabradford8180 Ай бұрын
@@wilhelmhagberg4897 true💯💯
@nixm9093
@nixm9093 Ай бұрын
"breathnstop" is a slightly worrying name for a nurse 😂
@edwardwong654
@edwardwong654 Ай бұрын
@breathnstop Thanks for sharing, that is good to know. I think sometimes during a fight/argument, one will just use whatever slur that comes to mind but without really meaning it.
@housecreeper
@housecreeper Ай бұрын
"THE MIRANDA SINGS SCHOOL OF COSMETOLOGY" I almost choked on my drink.
@NieceyWeesey
@NieceyWeesey Ай бұрын
Dr Grande, my newborn son remembers your voice from the womb. You should see his reactions when I play your videos 😂
@wanya_telborn
@wanya_telborn Ай бұрын
Are you ok They make meds for this
@troy3456789
@troy3456789 Ай бұрын
​@@wanya_telbornthat's not nice
@heatherbukowski2102
@heatherbukowski2102 Ай бұрын
@@wanya_telborn uh are YOU okay? There's nothing strange about her comment.
@MiguelDLewis
@MiguelDLewis Ай бұрын
@@wanya_telborn It's called Prenatal Memory. There are literally thousands of peer-reviewed academic studies proving this phenomenon. You should maybe read a bit before attempting to insult someone.
@Average_Internet_DMC_420
@Average_Internet_DMC_420 Ай бұрын
lmao these comments are silly
@SinaAla
@SinaAla Ай бұрын
I was a student at UC Santa Barbara and living in Goleta (Isla Vista) when this happened. All I remember that night was riding my bike home from school and my roommate frantically approaching me and locking the door behind me. The police had sent warnings to stay inside but I hadn’t heard anything. Anyway, such a tragic story.
@dianamal
@dianamal Ай бұрын
I remember this too since I live in Santa Barbara , sad
@Susan-lf2hl
@Susan-lf2hl Ай бұрын
It traumatized everyone nearby
@Taluta394
@Taluta394 4 ай бұрын
Jennifer was an accident looking for a place to happen.
@lisabradford8180
@lisabradford8180 Ай бұрын
💯
@markmike7933
@markmike7933 Ай бұрын
Imagine the lady who complained about the music didn't know that she had sealed her own fate. sad
@OneLifeGames
@OneLifeGames Ай бұрын
I was thinking of that too. I imagine many of the neighbours would have been annoyed and she spoke up for all of them.
@elosoguapo8137
@elosoguapo8137 Ай бұрын
In any given moment you can upset a crazy person, but it’s best not to think about it.
@tripledair
@tripledair Ай бұрын
Crazy how a person can present normally for years, and suddenly just…switch.
@davidglad
@davidglad Ай бұрын
Hence the phrase Going Postal
@Koozomec
@Koozomec Ай бұрын
Brain tumor ?
@tripledair
@tripledair Ай бұрын
@@davidglad yeah I guess you’re right. Sheesh.
@tripledair
@tripledair Ай бұрын
@@Koozomec something!
@user-bf9wu6tu9k
@user-bf9wu6tu9k Ай бұрын
Or... a person can harbor a deviant mental state for years, preserving a more or less normal life and appearance, and then never having been truly normal, one day just give in and let it run. The normalcy is rather like a mask or a chrysallis, and once the individual works beyond those boundaries, the normalcy collapses. The protective boundaries are gone.
@Gingerwhale
@Gingerwhale Ай бұрын
Newman, the U.S. postal mailman in the sitcom Seinfeld explained very well why some postal workers go crazy and ultimately may kill people: ''Because the mail never stops, it just keeps coming and coming and coming. They're never a letup. It's relentless. Every day it piles up more and more and more. And you got to get it out. But the more you get it out, the more it keeps coming in. And then the barcode reader breaks and is clearing house...'' At this point Kramer stops his hysterical rant. Great analysis.
@MsAdventure531
@MsAdventure531 Ай бұрын
Or one could escape and get a transfer to Hawaii. Where, as Neuman says, “the air is so dewy sweet you don’t have to lick the stamps.”
@Jairogliphx
@Jairogliphx Ай бұрын
Why work there or why not just leave ? There so many better opportunities out there than to slave yourself there
@heymax23
@heymax23 Ай бұрын
@@Jairogliphx This is completely true. I worked at FedEx for 2 years as a swing driver and did very well there (ex: won employee of the month twice). But it became grueling work, esp doing 4am - 9pm shifts during the summer. I quit and started bartending, which is 100 times easier and pretty much roughly the same pay, even in the somewhat humble town of Raleigh North Carolina. There is nothing stopping anyone from finding better in their life.
@JustMe-ef7xv
@JustMe-ef7xv Ай бұрын
True. It's all about numbers, volume.
@sadiec2701
@sadiec2701 Ай бұрын
This kinda sounds like every job I've ever had though lol just replace mail with merchandise, food orders, drinks, books, tank cars, invoices, dishes, etc etc etc
@jeannehall6546
@jeannehall6546 Ай бұрын
Schizophrenia. Pure and simple.
@alphaomega1351
@alphaomega1351 Ай бұрын
Oh... so she was religious? 🤔
@edelweiss2.076
@edelweiss2.076 Ай бұрын
Schizophrenia is one of several illnesses that can cause psychosis. It can also occur with schizoaffective disorder, bipolar disorder, major depression and postpartum depression. I've had a psychosis. It's a terrifying experience, like a nightmare you can't wake up from. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. I was fortunate to have a loving, supportive family that got me treatment immediately. I've never had another psychosis because I take meds & will for the rest of my life.
@hilaryb8807
@hilaryb8807 Ай бұрын
Not necessarily. Psychosis can also be caused by issues like brain tumours, medical conditions, or brain injuries.
@jeannehall6546
@jeannehall6546 Ай бұрын
@@hilaryb8807 Maybe. But I have dealt with someone directly who was schizophrenic (officially diagnosed as such) and he had many of the traits described in the video.
@stephenkalatucka6213
@stephenkalatucka6213 Ай бұрын
The official diagnosis: Bat-sh*t crazy.
@LúciaKitten
@LúciaKitten Ай бұрын
6 people went to work, believing that at the end of their shift, they'd go home and relax... and instead, their lives were taken, just because they were there. So sad they and the neighbor had to cross path with this lady. Thank you for your analysis on this case, Dr. Grande.
@benhartart9487
@benhartart9487 Ай бұрын
Correct, tomorrow is not guaranteed
@daynasafranek7807
@daynasafranek7807 Ай бұрын
I remember when this happened and the term “going postal”, was heard for ages. Jennifer wasn’t the first, nor was she the last to vent fury at a post office, but she was a wild case.
@lisabradford8180
@lisabradford8180 Ай бұрын
She was even more disturbed than others who did the same.
@MrArgus11111
@MrArgus11111 Ай бұрын
"Going postal" was in fairly widespread use long before Jennifer. She was not the first postal worker to become violent.
@wanya_telborn
@wanya_telborn Ай бұрын
Word 👆🏻
@kingcosworth2643
@kingcosworth2643 Ай бұрын
@@MrArgus11111 t started with Patrick Henry Sherrill in '86, the nutter
@TwinBleaks
@TwinBleaks Ай бұрын
​@@MrArgus11111 Yeah, she already stated Jennifer wasn't the first...
@chrisnanopoulos9905
@chrisnanopoulos9905 Ай бұрын
Wasn’t she involuntarily committed to a psychiatric facility? How did she legally obtain a firearm? This is a big part of the problem.
@yourfuturewaifu9061
@yourfuturewaifu9061 Ай бұрын
You can legally obtain a firearm and have been on a 5150 hold. California appears to have a 5 year period before you can obtain a gun, though.
@chrisnanopoulos9905
@chrisnanopoulos9905 Ай бұрын
@@yourfuturewaifu9061 It depends on the state. It doesn’t allow that in my state of Pa. It shouldn’t be allowed in any state, if it involves any shaky mental history. That’s my opinion, I think that may be asking for trouble. Mental illnesses can’t be cured, although treatment can be helpful and successful. They should never be able to legally acquire a firearm.
@MrOnyxRaven
@MrOnyxRaven Ай бұрын
The form to purchase a firearm is ATF Form 4473. That is a federal form. Section 21g: "g. Have you ever been adjudicated as a mental defective OR have you ever been committed to a mental institution?". If either are true, you are prohibited to possess a firearm under 18 U.S.C. § 922(g), aka The Gun Control Act. State law has no bearing on any of that. Not everyone who is taken for an involuntary mental health evaluation is "committed" to a mental institution. Some people "pass" the evaluation and that is that. Also, just because they are "committed" doesn't mean it gets properly reported. Same with criminal convictions.
@TacoMiau
@TacoMiau Ай бұрын
@@chrisnanopoulos9905who are YOU to say someone with depression shouldn’t be able to protect their family or solve their depression using unorthodox methods ie gun.
@chrisnanopoulos9905
@chrisnanopoulos9905 Ай бұрын
@@MrOnyxRaven Right, thanks for info. No, I don’t have psychiatric issues or history. I know people who have. This woman, San Marco was involuntary committed for a 72 hour hold and assessed. Her diagnosis isn’t known, that I can find. Her diagnosis is actually irrelevant. This didn’t show up on her background check; supposedly. This is what the pawn shop says, that sold her the gun. It took only two days and it was in her hands. Like I said, anyone with any kind of shaky psychiatric history should be banned from owning or possessing any firearm. It’s not going to kill them( no pun intended), but it may save some lives and theirs, preventing them from acquiring it. It’s not a necessity of life. This was too easy for her. If there’s a will, there’s a way. They may acquire one, regardless. The safeguards are lacking and maybe, set up some kind of system, where anyone with any psychiatric history, trying to obtain a firearm, would be prevented and authorities notified. That’s how I feel about it. Enjoy the rest of your weekend.
@pashon4percushon
@pashon4percushon Ай бұрын
i worked at a Post Office plant for about a year the redundancy drove me crazy. It was mail mail mail mail by the truckloads for 4 hours everyday then it all had to get sorted....and put right back on the trucks. That didnt include the junk mail that seemed to come out of nowhere.
@vinijohnson1046
@vinijohnson1046 Ай бұрын
lol
@5150Bud
@5150Bud Ай бұрын
Same here. Mind numbing.
@lindawilson4625
@lindawilson4625 Ай бұрын
It sounds like the very familiar story "I feel fine, so I don't need to take my meds anymore."
@radicalkelly59
@radicalkelly59 Ай бұрын
I was employed by the post office beginning in 2015. In orientation, we were told that if we ever said the words "going postal" at work, we would immediately be fired and escorted out of the building.
@reddishf0x237
@reddishf0x237 Ай бұрын
im ready to speculate without diagnosing in a situation like this!
@hilriekemp
@hilriekemp Ай бұрын
Jesus the last two murders were just messed up, you're just doing your job and get shot without warning. You can't run, reflect or pray, it's just all over in a blink of a second. Man I listened to a lot of these but this was by far the most depressing to die just doing your job smh
@adude9882
@adude9882 Ай бұрын
My freind maybe you have only just realised that you can die without knowing anything. If so its not rare. We are so accustomed to thinking of having time to tnink about it and this making it worse. Movies, etc. Then this other possibility occurs to you
@hilriekemp
@hilriekemp Ай бұрын
@@adude9882 bro you can die a lot of different ways in a lot of different places. But getting shot at work just doing your job and not having the wherewithal to be able to process or contemplate the end is especially cruel. Could you imagine getting up getting dressed, eating breakfast, doing your dailies, head to work, another day another dollar and then just nothing. You're life just ceases to exist and the afterlife awaits yeah naw that's not cool. Well to me anyways
@Susan-lf2hl
@Susan-lf2hl Ай бұрын
​@@hilriekemp I think at least they didn't suffer or were tortured. Doubt there is an afterlife so its.just lights out with no more pain as we return to the universe's energy from which we came.
@ddawson8069
@ddawson8069 Ай бұрын
Why blaspheme and bring yourself sorrow?
@Relayzy1
@Relayzy1 21 күн бұрын
​@@ddawson8069why the stupid belief?
@kbsanders
@kbsanders Ай бұрын
What disturbing story did she tell her co-worker as a postal worker that got her reported?
@annazaman9657
@annazaman9657 Ай бұрын
If she had lived a hundred years ago she would have been institutionalized and termed insane
@MsAdventure531
@MsAdventure531 Ай бұрын
If she lived in Salem, Massachusetts in the year 1692 she’d of been tried as a witch.
@childrenpraisegod1230
@childrenpraisegod1230 Ай бұрын
Biggest mistake is past institutions for mentally ill exclusively was 'discrimination' it INTEGRATED care in community under CPN respite centres closed so isolated.
@SakuraAsranArt
@SakuraAsranArt Ай бұрын
We can't have imaginary friends now? Damn, I better go tell my Emotional Support Demon to pack his stuff up 😔
@blueStarKitt7924
@blueStarKitt7924 Ай бұрын
🤣😂 You are a fan of The Click as well?👍
@kingcosworth2643
@kingcosworth2643 Ай бұрын
Hmm ,I hope you and your buddy aren't armed
@emilywilliams9916
@emilywilliams9916 Ай бұрын
😂
@FollowingTheDream455
@FollowingTheDream455 Ай бұрын
Your comment reminds me of the movie Bad Milo. I'm not sure if you've seen it, but I'll summarize the film in case you haven't. This man inherits a butt demon from his father. The man's butt demon is named Milo, and Milo kills people who upset his owner.
@Listrynne
@Listrynne Ай бұрын
I have the keychain ESD and the glow in the dark one. I'm trying to decide if I should get a rainbow one.
@laurah.7696
@laurah.7696 Ай бұрын
How she passed a background check with no problem? Thanks for the bits of humor haha.
@maryschaefer5691
@maryschaefer5691 Ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing and I totally believe in gun rights. I always thought that if you went in for mental health care and it wasn't on your own accord that would block you from getting a gun.
@yourfuturewaifu9061
@yourfuturewaifu9061 Ай бұрын
A background check is typically a criminal background check. If she hadn't been caught for any crimes she would have passed. Mental illness typically doesn't preclude you, barring extenuating circumstances.
@lindas5964
@lindas5964 Ай бұрын
This was interesting for sure and I’m happy when Dr. Grande gives a more “clinical” speculation rather then what the rest of us do ie… “arrogant, vindictive, selfish, self-centered…”
@wilhelmhagberg4897
@wilhelmhagberg4897 Ай бұрын
Agreed, his earlier videos went much deeper in psychological analyzes. The ”negative adjective rants” are a quite new addition.
@audralynn7454
@audralynn7454 Ай бұрын
It's so sad that someone was basically in the world alone and had no one to help her. Its hard to be friends with someone with schizo disorders, unless (qnd even if) you knew them before the onset. Thank you for sharing this case Dr. Grande.
@artypicklespvp7174
@artypicklespvp7174 Ай бұрын
She was obviously alone for a reason, what's really sad are the fates of her innocent victims.
@audralynn7454
@audralynn7454 Ай бұрын
@artypicklespvp7174 if she had friends and people around her they may have been able to help her or alert someone before it got so bad. That was my point.
@Relayzy1
@Relayzy1 21 күн бұрын
​@@audralynn7454well crazy people scare of normal people... it's on them.
@peterfazio9306
@peterfazio9306 14 күн бұрын
It's hard to feel sorry for anyone who takes others' lives.
@edelweiss2.076
@edelweiss2.076 Ай бұрын
Had the San Marco woman received adequate mental health care, none of those murders would have taken place. It's very sad that San Marco had no one in her life to help her when she couldn't help herself. No family. No partner. No real friends.
@juneyshu6197
@juneyshu6197 Ай бұрын
Or she burned them out or was dangerous!
@legitbeans9078
@legitbeans9078 Ай бұрын
She had no friends because she was batshit crazy, and racist. Lol
@rrickard2874
@rrickard2874 Ай бұрын
Most people taking meds will skip a day or two, claiming they're feeling better. Just two days without her medication, and this day happens anyway.
@JustHarrison
@JustHarrison Ай бұрын
100% the experiences she had in childhood caused this. Dr. Grande says not a lot is known about that time, but since I've been studying the effects of emotional/physical abuse on children and how it affects their adult lives, it is undeniable that these kinds of mass killings don't just come out of the blue. She absolutely was severely emotionally neglected, this is what causes the mental break which leads to the creation of the "imaginary friends." She may have also been sexual assaulted as a little girl. This offense in particular makes it close to impossible for a person to have close relationships with others as an adult, and often leads to depression/suicide later in life. The only way America is ever going to stop mass shootings is going to be when we acknowledge, as a nation, that the core of all human social, political, and psychological human problems is the wounded inner-child.
@seniorjohnl
@seniorjohnl Ай бұрын
People can develop psychosis without being abused in any way. A completely normal person can have an onset of schizophrenia later in life that is not related to their past.
@annstewart6194
@annstewart6194 Ай бұрын
​@@seniorjohnl agreed after tramas, etc after childhood. Mental health can be depleted/ disrupted through life.
@leannemo7382
@leannemo7382 Ай бұрын
Psychosis leading to tragedy can also occur from untreated mental illness. She was presumably not taking her meds anymore.
@MrShanester117
@MrShanester117 Ай бұрын
You are the definition of a sophist
@oldschool8432
@oldschool8432 Ай бұрын
When going Postal reaches a whole nother level
@alukuhito
@alukuhito Ай бұрын
nother?
@MsAdventure531
@MsAdventure531 Ай бұрын
No, this was the same “level” for which “Goin’ Postal” got its name. Reference: •Royal Oak Michigan Postal massacre •Norman Oklahoma Postal bloodbath Just to name two.
@JT-sl3ui
@JT-sl3ui Ай бұрын
@@MsAdventure531 right. Was thinking the same. This is the very level that coined the term. Some peoples kids.
@davewhiteman8353
@davewhiteman8353 Ай бұрын
I found your analysis of this topic informative. Thank you Dr Grande.
@marig9236
@marig9236 Ай бұрын
I wonder if she did show signs when she was a younger woman but ppl chalked it up to "being weird" or living in "la la land". like dismissing it to make an excuse for it.
@8abydoll
@8abydoll Ай бұрын
This is really similar to what I went through. A lot of young women end up going without treatment that leads them to spiral because of how dismissive society is of their mental health.
@brendaredmond4678
@brendaredmond4678 Ай бұрын
My sister was diagnosed Schizophrenic as an adult but the signs seemed to be there in her teen years as well. She was 17 years older than me so I dont really recall her living at home as she actually married at the age of 19. One part of this story stuck out to me. Her anger towards the neighbor. When my sister was 16 years old our Aunt was making a prom dress for her. Our Aunt who is not very kind or sensitive told my sister that yellow was not her color. She said my sister looked horrible in yellow and looked like a bumblebee. This comment rooted in my sister and grew into hatred of our Aunt. For 3 decades until my sisters death she spoke about our Aunt and this comment. She said many times that she hoped my Aunt would die from a million bee stings. Any misfortune or bad thing that befell any member of our family was blamed on our Aunt.
@panninggazz5244
@panninggazz5244 Ай бұрын
condolences to the victims families. what a terrible crime spree. she is one frightening person.
@discospiders
@discospiders Ай бұрын
Raise your hand if you want to see Dr G wear his Hawaiian shirt with the magenta hibiscus flowers, tomorrow!
@evawasteson1296
@evawasteson1296 Ай бұрын
Some shirts are an expression of the dr's sense of humour
@Da1Dez
@Da1Dez Ай бұрын
One thing notable about these types stories, is that the individual's dilemna in the story seems to span years before they commit the act that makes them infamous, meaning people ought to intervene more to help their minds, such as not outcast, reject or ridicule them.
@momochisakura11
@momochisakura11 Ай бұрын
Hear me out... Maybe we should revisit the option of asylums.
@4catmom14
@4catmom14 Ай бұрын
Thank you I agree.
@oooh19
@oooh19 Ай бұрын
The asylums treated people very cruelly though. They can still treat them better.
@Charmander009
@Charmander009 Ай бұрын
Back in 60s many innocent normal people were placed into asylums, if they brought it back more innocent people would go in including u .
@BlackJesus8463
@BlackJesus8463 Ай бұрын
That would be worse than a death sentence.
@Relayzy1
@Relayzy1 21 күн бұрын
And torture people with a illness?
@loiskondo8349
@loiskondo8349 Ай бұрын
Rest in peace to her victims. Thank us for this video about a very strange incident. Have a great weekend Dr. Grande!
@phoenixrises1311
@phoenixrises1311 Ай бұрын
HOW DID SHE GET A FREAKING GUN!!
@troy3456789
@troy3456789 Ай бұрын
A better question: Why does the post office prevent its employees from defending themselves? This fact has ended badly for many many postal workers.
@danieledugre1837
@danieledugre1837 Ай бұрын
´merica
@yourfuturewaifu9061
@yourfuturewaifu9061 Ай бұрын
From what I've seen from the comments, very few seem to understand how background checks works. I recommend during some research.
@AuntClara0911
@AuntClara0911 Ай бұрын
It's America too easy to do😡🤬😭
@troy3456789
@troy3456789 Ай бұрын
@@AuntClara0911 The USA knows that self-defense and defense of others is one of the most important moral obligations a person can have. The question to ask is: why aren't postal workers allowed to defend themselves from attackers? Why aren't there armed guards protecting them if they cannot have firearms to protect themselves? The gun controllers want armed security at courthouses and airports (where they frequent) and recoil with fear if we talk about that for anywhere else. Most of the time you are your own first responder, and when seconds count, police are only a few minutes away.
@emghee2510
@emghee2510 Ай бұрын
Dr. Grande, thank you for the upload! 🤌
@jenanne31
@jenanne31 Ай бұрын
Wow, I have a neighbor who exhibits some of the same strange behavior (including the weird praying), and used to work at the post office! Yikes....
@zerowhite2286
@zerowhite2286 Ай бұрын
Definitely keep your door locked!
@DigitalNeb
@DigitalNeb Ай бұрын
It's wild that this lady could present such clear symptoms of mental distress, and yet no one was able to help her. We have to do better. This lady was just really sick, and ultimately, that sickness killed her and seven other people.
@bertvosburg558
@bertvosburg558 Ай бұрын
A friend of mine from Mio Michigan had a sister that worked at Dow Chemical plant and after many years working there she retired and calmly went out of her head in such ways as removing all her clothes and running down a rural rode etc. Nothing violent, but always something unexpected and out of character. Their father also worked there in the early years and died earlier than normal. TOO MANY CHEMICALS.
@Flamsterette
@Flamsterette Ай бұрын
I'm on my way to a funeral right now. Thanks for the upload, Dr. Grande! Your true fans love your humour and sarcasm. Today (June 1) is National Game Show Day, Say Something Nice Day, Hazelnut Cake Day, Don't Give Up The Ship Day, Pen Pal Day, Dare Day, Dinosaur Day, World Milk Day (gotta have some Earth's Own vanilla almond milk later!), World Olive Day, National Nail Polish Day, Oscar The Grouch Day, World Narcissistic Abuse Awareness Day, International Children's Day, Flip A Coin Day, and National Go Barefoot Day.
@iamdrabhishekgupta
@iamdrabhishekgupta Ай бұрын
World Reef Awareness Day.
@bigboy7927
@bigboy7927 Ай бұрын
Going through life day by day.😅
@jacquelinecottrell6546
@jacquelinecottrell6546 Ай бұрын
Your voice puts me to sleep. I have trouble sleeping…thank you so much!
@Spoingusbazoingus
@Spoingusbazoingus Ай бұрын
Listening to this on my mail route 💪
@elosoguapo8137
@elosoguapo8137 Ай бұрын
Perhaps men and bears aren’t the only threats people
@jonesmorales-tu6kq
@jonesmorales-tu6kq Ай бұрын
Men only when they snap
@alukuhito
@alukuhito Ай бұрын
I think it's more than just a coincidence that people use the term "to go postal" in English. There's something unique to working at the post office in the USA or Canada. In Canada, I don't know how exactly it is now, but for the longest time it was a job in which workers got paid quite a bit of money compared to the easiness of the job. The union is strong because everybody wants their mail. As soon as conditions aren't met, workers can just go on strike. Everybody gets pissed off when their mail isn't delivered, so demand the workers go back. The workers eventually get what they and their union want. I think it gives workers a sense of entitlement. My sister's attitude completely changed once she started a regular job at the post office. She used to be really kind, but after starting work at the post office, she got really macho, vulgar, and entitled. Like this woman, she held grudges. Suddenly everything was our parents' fault, the government's fault, everyone else's fault. I miss my pre-post office sister. We used to be able to talk about our mom, but she made it clear that was not a topic to bring up with her. She'd go into some weird defensive mode. Thankfully she has never shown any violent tendencies and she has become calmer lately, after a new man in her life and quitting the post office. I really do think though that that particular job, at least in Canada and the USA, isn't conducive to good mental health, at least for some people.
@BigCreepySleepy
@BigCreepySleepy Ай бұрын
Why aren’t Imaginary Friends nice people?
@audralynn7454
@audralynn7454 Ай бұрын
Because imaginary friends are the intrusive thoughts we are told are bad thoughts. Rather than have bad thoughts, it was "someone" else.
@sansnom508
@sansnom508 Ай бұрын
My childhood imaginary friends were very nice. They were well-behaved on our semi-annual train trips to visit my grandparents and never caused a ruckus or got me into trouble. I haven't seen them in almost 60 years, hope they're doing well. 🤣🤣🤣
@MrAwning
@MrAwning Ай бұрын
Mine seems okay so far. 😳
@willthebeast8002
@willthebeast8002 Ай бұрын
What do you mean?? All of mine are....
@vicvega3614
@vicvega3614 Ай бұрын
Mine are
@bayoumanbryan
@bayoumanbryan Ай бұрын
i worked at the post office for 2.5 years back in the 1980's the pressure that the supervisors put on their employees was unreal. there were some pretty mentally ill people that i worked with. there was one man that was bat**** crazy he talked to himself constantly loudly and laughed out loud often. another one was a drunk that did some really wild stuff and also molested his grandsons while taking them on "camping trips."
@kellyyork3898
@kellyyork3898 Ай бұрын
It’s always sad when people have paranoid ideation because it never ends well. Eventually, they either have these paranoid thoughts about people around them and end up acting on these thoughts to “protect themselves,” or because of their paranoid thoughts, and the actions which accompany them, they annoy/frighten someone to the point where the other person attacks the original paranoid person-a self-fulfilling prophecy. Either way, bad things eventually happen. Assaults and even deaths can occur. Watch out for people with paranoid thoughts.
@Oshimpia
@Oshimpia Ай бұрын
That’s why you don’t go to work bullying people they might bully you back. God is good. This woman is not a bad person. Absolutely not a bad person. People may have do what she did.
@laurashawn2803
@laurashawn2803 5 ай бұрын
had to go to your page to find this. This website never showed me this video. It also looks like I am the only person who has viewed. Very odd to be sure!
@mamatried528
@mamatried528 5 ай бұрын
Vey odd, same thing here. 2 views
@-10
@-10 4 ай бұрын
it just came out as patreon exclusive, guess it was made public early by accident.
@AnastasiaFafo
@AnastasiaFafo 4 ай бұрын
It's because it's on Patreon
@rachelmansoor8323
@rachelmansoor8323 4 ай бұрын
Patreon exclusive
@Throatzillaaa
@Throatzillaaa 4 ай бұрын
​@AnastasiaFafo i understand it's on patreon, but it only showed up for me (and you and others, I think) like two days ago which makes it odd that the comment we are replying to is one month old.
@user-ed8cf5eo5f
@user-ed8cf5eo5f 25 күн бұрын
I've been subscribed for a while but lately my fiance started watching you. He thinks you're hilarious. So I started watching again and I'll cracking up on some of the comments. Never realized you were so funny
@sunspiral79
@sunspiral79 Ай бұрын
Any other employer wouldve fired her long before it come to this
@SirenaSpades
@SirenaSpades Ай бұрын
Wow, she could hold a grudge. I cant remember past ten minutes let alone be upset that long
@jasonlane2436
@jasonlane2436 Ай бұрын
Love your opinions and insight 🙏🏻 Don’t take it the wrong way (more of a compliment) but I fall asleep to your videos…your presentation is deep, informative, to the point and calmimg… Keep them coming 🙏🏻 J🇬🇧
@Simonisms
@Simonisms Ай бұрын
'Inconsistent with proper hairstyle management' 😂
@MINDBooner703
@MINDBooner703 Ай бұрын
I want to know what rap songs she would reportedly rap😂
@RullXov
@RullXov Ай бұрын
Thanks, Dr. Grande, this is a case I've never heard of before.
@adotintheshark4848
@adotintheshark4848 Ай бұрын
"Amanda Sings' School Of Cosmetology". Nothing is safe from the wrath of Jennifer, nor Doctor Grande.
@lauravillanueva2175
@lauravillanueva2175 Ай бұрын
You tell the situation well. Very cool vibes. I’m definitely binge watching all the videos I’ve missed out on and I’m quite entertained thank You 🙏
@mason4966
@mason4966 11 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for making this video. I really appreciate it. I was very curious about your thoughts on this case.
@haaather7131
@haaather7131 Ай бұрын
New Mexico isn't known as "the land of entrapment" for nothing.
@notprovided1131
@notprovided1131 Ай бұрын
I think this is what "going postal" refers to
@helpyourcattodrive
@helpyourcattodrive Ай бұрын
Very interesting and informative. Thank you for the great video, grande.
@ivannovotny4552
@ivannovotny4552 Ай бұрын
Obviously and undoubtedly Jennifer had some serious mental issues.
@kingcosworth2643
@kingcosworth2643 Ай бұрын
Yes
@Snakesnarl
@Snakesnarl Ай бұрын
Yesssssss. Finally covering this case
@jenimiranda4284
@jenimiranda4284 Ай бұрын
This is sad 😢 mental illness is so difficult to manage and alot of people don't take their medications
@robpolaris5002
@robpolaris5002 Ай бұрын
This was 1/2 a mile from my house. What is crazy is another infamous shooter Eliot Roger’s shooting happened 1.5 miles from my house. Both are close to my alma mater, UCSB.
@mattwilliams3456
@mattwilliams3456 Ай бұрын
Another case where an involuntary mental health stay was not properly documented, allowing her to pass the NICS background check.
@katarratube
@katarratube Ай бұрын
So not only did they let her get a license to publish a periodical called "The Racist Press", but they also let her renew the license as well?? Wow.
@adude9882
@adude9882 Ай бұрын
Had she survived I wonder if she would have been fired.
@AnnaFragolari2
@AnnaFragolari2 3 күн бұрын
You FINALLY said it!!! Making racist remarks IS a mental problem! 🎉
@_knife.prty_
@_knife.prty_ Ай бұрын
Doc the thumb nail is crazy! GOING POSTAL 😭😭😭😂😂😂😂😂
@nanordstrom
@nanordstrom Ай бұрын
We're where parents and siblings? Was she abused at home? The healthcare system failed here, there seems to be a total 'not my problem' response from those who knew her
@scottdavidson526
@scottdavidson526 Ай бұрын
All they know is that her parents divorced when she was young and not really anything else is known about them. She grew up in Brooklyn, NY.
@chrismartin5450
@chrismartin5450 Ай бұрын
Or maybe you have no idea how difficult it is to get help for the mentally ill in this world. I have an adult son that I have been dealing with for years!!!……an involuntary committal they keep him for 2 days with “orders” for him to follow up but he doesn’t and nobody enforces those orders. So it’s easy to sit and judge but very different when you live it.
@aaronburratwood.6957
@aaronburratwood.6957 Ай бұрын
Living large Dr. Grande‼️
@wolfychicago
@wolfychicago Ай бұрын
Such a well done analysis. Thank you.
@billyin4c514
@billyin4c514 Ай бұрын
😂 Wtf?! This woman was repeatedly walking around naked, singing in public, praying on the side of the road, and the cops were like , " Sweetheart, you gotta go home, and also don't drive naked." With exhibiting these behaviors, this woman should have been institutionalized immediately. The authorities are responsible for this, they have an obligation to protect the public.
@andrewc9902
@andrewc9902 Ай бұрын
When go’n postal turns it to 11
@kingcosworth2643
@kingcosworth2643 Ай бұрын
Jesus Christ, how many interactions did she have with the police, well done team
@ddawson8069
@ddawson8069 Ай бұрын
Why blaspheme and bring yourself sorrow?
@maryannebphillips9124
@maryannebphillips9124 Ай бұрын
My parents were continually insulted and just as continually vengeful. They targetted me also as an enemy.
@Ellienollie
@Ellienollie Ай бұрын
The real crime is that someone who dropped out of college and worked for the postal office could afford to purchase a condo in Santa Barbara…..like the inflation and price fixing is OUT OF CONTROL today
@EmeraldView
@EmeraldView Ай бұрын
Ummm why isn't the imaginary friend being held to account?
@coyotegraysr
@coyotegraysr Ай бұрын
I live south of Grants NM. I Remember when that happened.
@sludge8506
@sludge8506 Ай бұрын
Congratulations. 😴😴😴
@Rachelief
@Rachelief Ай бұрын
What a perfect midday upload😊
@ELCAPATAZ
@ELCAPATAZ 3 күн бұрын
"Perhaps there was a rule against unincorporated cats getting food, It's not clear." 😂
@mangafq8
@mangafq8 Ай бұрын
Riverside to Santa Barbara: good move SB to Grants, NM: interesting change of venue
@DanKirchner5150
@DanKirchner5150 Ай бұрын
clearly a classic case of "frankenfurter envy"
@FroggyBarnett
@FroggyBarnett Ай бұрын
Gee it’s sad her mental health was able to decline that bad without someone to step in and help. She was clearly in need of intervention. Without family or close friends she had no one to recognise and help. Medication could have prevented this tragedy
@MissWhiskers
@MissWhiskers Ай бұрын
I had a dream where I was blocked by Dr Todd Grande meaning that I couldn't watch his videos anymore. Don't remember what I did wrong. I'm happy to see that it was all a dream! 😅 Edit: I should mention that we met irl. Irl-dream-Dr Grande didn't like me. =/ Must've been something I said.
@LúciaKitten
@LúciaKitten Ай бұрын
🤣🤣
@youssef16844
@youssef16844 Ай бұрын
Please don't visit a pawn shop any time in the future.
@BreiterDays
@BreiterDays Ай бұрын
This one is not as well known as it should be. Saw an episode of Born To Kill on this some years back. Very rare. Oddly reminiscent of Amy Bishop to me.
@jamba622
@jamba622 Ай бұрын
Very well known to boomers. Was all over the news when it happened. The term “going postal” grew from this case and meant losing control of oneself violently. This was a ubiquitous phrase back then.
@TianXiaoMao
@TianXiaoMao Ай бұрын
​@@jamba622 The term "going postal" was around since 1986. There's even a Wikipedia page about it.
@maryrichardson6029
@maryrichardson6029 Ай бұрын
Always interesting If you came from a Crappy family, why would you want to talk about them. Thank you❤
@Andy-kw5nw
@Andy-kw5nw Ай бұрын
This was on January 30, 2006. I just don’t want anyone confused that mass shootings are a societal problem now………….not a postal problem.
@ceciliapetrowsky2572
@ceciliapetrowsky2572 Ай бұрын
So postal workers were looking out the windows at the crazy person about to enter the facility and didn’t warn their fellow coworkers wearing ear protection. Hmmm.
@zenawarrior7442
@zenawarrior7442 Ай бұрын
I agree. She knew right from wrong. She was deceptive & dangerous, generally people who hop from job to job have issues. Great points again. Thanks Dr G😊💗💗
@edelweiss2.076
@edelweiss2.076 Ай бұрын
San Marco sounds like she was psychotic, paranoid and completely off her gourd. I'm not convinced she could discern anything, much less right from wrong.
@billyin4c514
@billyin4c514 Ай бұрын
😂 She clearly had schizophrenia, she wasn't exactly making decisions from a well balanced mind. The woman was literally hallucinating in public and people didn't recognize her as a hazard to herself or others.
@samspade8612
@samspade8612 Ай бұрын
How many copies of "The Catcher in The Rye" did she have in her home?
@xennialnick
@xennialnick Ай бұрын
I really hope there are no other 'situations like this'!
@blazefairchild465
@blazefairchild465 Ай бұрын
It is sad she had no friends or family that could have lovingly had her go inpatient while she still worked for the postal service. Lives would’ve been saved. There is a lot of stress working in the post office.
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