Year two of wood chipping our driveway has worked out better than expected...
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@WholeFoodPlantPeople Жыл бұрын
Freakin Awesome ! Instead of paying someone to gravel my driveway, I think I'll put the money into buying a wood chipper and utilizing the fallen trees on my property to make my own wood chip driveway out of a big sloppy muddy sandy mess. Thanks for the video!
@AmericanSummerUS Жыл бұрын
I thought the same a few years ago and bought a small chipper. Unless ur buying a serious wood chipper might consider getting a few dump truck loads delivered.
@philandhannahslittlefarm14643 жыл бұрын
I used to work on a farm and they used woodchips everywhere for driving surfaces. Every year they would just add more chips to the soft spots. It worked really well.
@noname-rv7yh2 жыл бұрын
I’m gunna do this.
@terrymacleod68823 жыл бұрын
no more rocks in the bushes from snow removal. huge benefit right there.
@carolewarner1013 жыл бұрын
We love living in the Pacific NW for it's mild climate and have LOTS of wood chips available here, often for free. The downside of the mild climate, however, is that it doesn't freeze here like it does in Vermont. So our "mud season" is pretty much shortly after the winter rains start in the fall until things dry out full in late spring! So we have road surface on our land that is either rip rapped and graveled for year round use or only driven during the dry season. That being said, I think I'm going to cover up those lesser traveled roads with wood chips anyway now because of the fact that: 1) if I needed to drive it once in a blue moon in winter I could probably get away with it, and 2) it will hold water and help prevent erosion during the wet season...as well as break down and create good soil we can harvest if need be at some point! Thanks for the video Ben...I can't believe how fast your little boy is growing up!
@meganwilde90933 жыл бұрын
Love it! I am going to do this with my driveway once the snow melts and trial it here in AK. Several weeks behind on spring in the subarctic. Love your videos, Thanks for your updates and insights!
@karlau10843 жыл бұрын
This sounds so awesome! I used this method to avoid "mud season" in the orchard and chicken runs, but never thought about it for our driveway. Thanks so much!
@farmerbob728 Жыл бұрын
I have a woodchipper and I put the chips on my dirt road every time I do a job. They keep the road from getting muddy. It works out great.
@ZE308AC3 жыл бұрын
Those buckets on the quad are amazing
@BalticHomesteaders3 жыл бұрын
Hi Ben. Thanks for the update. We watched your previous videos on this subject as I was also sceptical and but based on that we went ahead and applied chips to our drive last year as we had a massive mud rutting problem and it was a game-changer for us. Not to the same scale as you as we have to make our own chips with a small chipper but the principle is the same. We're in North Latvia about 57deg nth and have a similar climate to you it seems. Thanks for pioneering!
@wholesystems3 жыл бұрын
good to hear!
@candaceplatt17003 жыл бұрын
Love this!! Having 100 yards dropped next week for my paths for the food forest, but we also had a (different) section logged and have been toying with the idea of using chips for a larger road to address the paths that the skidder left when logging another section of our land.
@wildherring39883 жыл бұрын
Love your content
@lisablithe74403 жыл бұрын
We did this last year after seeing your video and are VERY impressed. Sent you some pics on IG a few weeks ago.
@ravenfrosthomestead8983 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you posted this! We've been tossing around this idea for a few days, as we've just gotten some chips for free. Cold climate as well - very excited to see this working for you!
@BalticHomesteaders3 жыл бұрын
It works great, we did it also based on his video last year. I did make a little video as well on our channel, not to the same scale but the principle is the same.
@ravenfrosthomestead8983 жыл бұрын
@@BalticHomesteaders awesome! I’ll go check it out ☺️
@Arfonfree2 жыл бұрын
A novel to me idea. I've been using pea stone to make a comfortable walking surface, but it's expensive. And I just ordered a PTO chipper to take care of some landscaping needs. So now I have a new place to dispose of the chips!
@freegandavehartman89083 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother!
@TBrownRecords2 жыл бұрын
You made a very helpful video
@nathanieltaylor94663 жыл бұрын
in the process of putting down chips now, love it
@daxemerson51413 жыл бұрын
Very cool! I've never seen a wood chip driveway irl, come to think of it
@TheHonestPeanut3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see people doing more of this. Deep woodchip roads are fantastic, cheap, easy to touch up surfaces. The only down side is since they hold moisture the under side of your cars rust out faster when they're parked than if you had crushed stone or hardpack. I put down chips for my truck and tractor trails through our woods. TOTAL game changer for mud season.
@wholesystems3 жыл бұрын
Yes! That’s a good call. I’ve heard mechanics say don’t park on grass for this reason. It’s pretty darn dry all summer here but probably not as dry as gravel. And all of it’s wet pretty much all winter.
@mlindsay5273 жыл бұрын
Great for a temporary access that you will want to eventually revert to woods/pasture/garden. Over time, the humus builds up and holds more and more water and gets softer and softer in the warm season, not the best scenario for a permanent drive. If you want gravel to last longer on a permanent drive, use the proper geotextile underneath it. I helps keep the gravel and mud from mixing.
@wholesystems3 жыл бұрын
Yeah i am thinking that but i do have a parking zone that i've been doing this on for years which still seems hard... i guess it depends a lot on what's below/soil/bedrock - we are very shallow to bedrock in lots of places.
@Indeewoods Жыл бұрын
What about wood chips first the 2 years later add gravel? The wood chips absorb the water pretty good we had a motocross track that was always really dusty in certain areas so one of the loggers suggested wood chips and that worked awesome. No dust and no rutted out sections when it rained. Those wood chips insulate the ground so stays frozen longer then releases that moisture during the warmer dryer season when water is needed most.
@CITYBORNDESERTBRED3 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen loggers utilize hay in sandy conditions, if you come across some round bales for cheap try rolling some of those around
@LandscapingWithZach3 жыл бұрын
Even if it spreads into the grass areas more frequently, I'd much rather run over wood chips that end up in the lawn with a mower than gravel.
@terrymacleod68823 жыл бұрын
ya, thats what i was wondering. the first few snow falls are the worst because i push a lot of rock onto my lawn, in my trees , everywhere.
@cabwaldo3 жыл бұрын
Vermont compost does this.
@raymondjoseph71775 ай бұрын
I get them for free. I put out a fb request. I do it for 2 years on an area of the property i plan to grass. Remove the chips and run through a sifter and you have top soil for the grass. Grass comes out amazing. The rest goes in a compost pile.
@SMOkINREVZ Жыл бұрын
I’m thinking about doing this since I work for a tree service. We literally dump loads of chips at dump sites.
@The1MadreMia3 жыл бұрын
I am about halfway through your book The Resilient Farm and Homestead, and just found your channel too. Thank you for sharing all of this good info! We are in NH and need to repair our driveway but have been holding off to find a better alternative to current asphalt. This would be amazing, but how is it during winter months? Easy to shovel/snowblow?
@wholesystems3 жыл бұрын
I plow this all winter.. not different than gravel - i am careful to not rip it up but you have to do that with gravel too until it freezes, as this does as well, and locks up and a plow goes right across it. It's surprising but fact!
@richthevegan8611 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant idea. How do you stop the grass and vegetation growing through?
@jdkim68299 ай бұрын
just drive over. i dont understand why people drive on the exact same tire tracks without going little to the left this time and little to the right next time. Vegetation is good though. feed animals.
@jdkim68299 ай бұрын
you can also mow throttle all the way down deck all the way up. No need to root them out. They help hold the chips
@StephanieBacks3 жыл бұрын
do you have a chunkier gravel as a base or even an old gravel drive underneath so it doesnt sink? do you find you have good traction even when its thawed or do skid a bit like loose gravel?
@wholesystems3 жыл бұрын
No this was lawn! It’s great all year, but even in mud season which is the part that surprises me.
@slaplapdog3 жыл бұрын
Seems like the wood chips insulate the ground, slowing the thawing and also soak up the water as it comes.
@wholesystems3 жыл бұрын
Yes I think that’s what they do, but I was surprised they would hold the ice itself and that the ice itself is so great and hard. And then that when that ice melted later than it does without the insulation in gravel drives, that it doesn’t get really soft then. But it doesn’t.
@jessegrimes18963 жыл бұрын
@@wholesystems It reminds me of "Pykrete," ice reinforced with wood fibers that ends up being as strong as concrete, and takes forever to melt because of the low conductivity of heat. They built a whole ship out of it in ww2. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pykrete
@wholesystems3 жыл бұрын
Jesse Grimes wow mind blowing concept
@wholesystems3 жыл бұрын
Jesse Grimes wow mind blowing concept
@Miniscapes515 Жыл бұрын
Beer and weed. The ultimate currency..
@romandmytrenko77713 жыл бұрын
Hey Ben, what about the fire? Usually road stops it or localize it. Do you see any new risk with this road approach?
@wholesystems3 жыл бұрын
great consideration for sure - we don't have fire as much of a design constraint/need so we can't say. But I would say this won't serve as a firebreak as well as gravel. Though it may have some function for sure.
@donnybrasco63213 жыл бұрын
Genius. What depth do you aim for? (looks about 4”..?)
@wholesystems3 жыл бұрын
3-4” 5” is nice but no need to go deeper it seems
@blajing3 жыл бұрын
@@wholesystems So, you basically have to replenish this every 2-3 years or so?
@kathyreese40523 жыл бұрын
Another really cool thing is that the wood chips don't blow away either.
@wholesystems3 жыл бұрын
they can float away though!
@richprich4 ай бұрын
I have seen them used at playgrounds
@maxwellcook36693 жыл бұрын
Just out of curiosity are you hesitant on putting them near buildings with wood. Or would you do a gravel “buffer zone” for termites?
@wholesystems3 жыл бұрын
We don't consider this because we don't have termites...
@CorwynGC3 жыл бұрын
There should be a foot of space and a termite guard between any wood on your house, and the ground.
@ryanomalley5022 жыл бұрын
Ben, how was it for plowing? Do you find it decreases runoff?
@wholesystems2 жыл бұрын
It plows great! Freezes hard, didn’t have to be terribly careful with it per se
@wholesystems2 жыл бұрын
It reduces runoff for sure until it’s frozen, like none.
@johncollins83042 жыл бұрын
Anyone tried using a plate compactor on it?
@wholesystems Жыл бұрын
4:06 for 100 yards not 1000! Still cheapest source of chips you can get in most places unless you're getting free - more so than making your own, IMO. And i've tried all methods and scales.
@bigshipsailing100 Жыл бұрын
What happens when you have to plow the snow?
@wholesystems Жыл бұрын
I think speak about that in here. As easy as with gravel. And as challenging too. Often less since it stays frozen better.
@TobiasCBrown3 жыл бұрын
The challenge is runoff.
@jess_bein_me_3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking that, too.
@TobiasCBrown3 жыл бұрын
@@jess_bein_me_ They work great on most trails but if it's a spot where water will occasionally flow in, it could wash away the chips.
@jess_bein_me_3 жыл бұрын
@@TobiasCBrown yep.
@katiegreene39603 жыл бұрын
What area is this in?
@wholesystems3 жыл бұрын
This is in Vermont...
@katiegreene39603 жыл бұрын
@@wholesystems oh ok cool then it work in mn.
@ProfessionalDad8 ай бұрын
How bout in Virginia
@EmbracePeacefulLiving9 ай бұрын
What about the wood ants
@brianbower30 Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't they eventually break down and turn to dirt?
@wholesystems Жыл бұрын
Yes they do...
@wholesystems Жыл бұрын
well, not dirt, but great soil
@nealvaughn23403 жыл бұрын
Literally signing paperwork today on a house in Texas that needs a driveway redone because the stone is crap. You couldn’t have posted this at a better time. Thoughts on a hot southern climate that gets downpours of rain in the spring? North Texas.
@wholesystems3 жыл бұрын
They can move around in lots of rain if there’s flow for sure. I once had to take some back on that moved.
@nealvaughn23403 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ben! Need to observe property for any flow that might be there.
@JoseSanchez22432 жыл бұрын
Did you ever try this? I'm in the Dallas area and want to try this, but not sure how it would work
@thomasbarr52010 ай бұрын
Wondering if you did the driveway in Texas? I am thinking about removing a concrete driveway and thinking about trying wood chips instead of concrete or gravel. I am on the Gulf Coast.
@nealvaughn234010 ай бұрын
@@thomasbarr520it worked! Only issue is reapplication due to weeds. You want a very deep bed of chips or have a barrier on the ground and then pour the chips o er the top. Packing them in can also be important to maintain traction.
@VanillaAttila3 жыл бұрын
$700 for 1000 yards??
@wholesystems3 жыл бұрын
700 for 100 yards.. sorry did i say 1000 yards? Mispoke if it did!
@VanillaAttila3 жыл бұрын
@@wholesystems That's such a great price! It's $2100CDN for 60 yards where I'm at!
@budsak77719 ай бұрын
I was just thinking about using wood chips instead of rock and asphalt for roads. Wood suck in the event of an EV fire though. 🤣