Freybrand Lol. We definitely need more of the assassinorum out there. ;). Great image though. Mind if I nick it? :). Thanks for listening, brother. :).

@@baldermort By all means good sir, nick away. I'm glad I came across your Channel. You're one of the better lore channels out there and I love your video on the Grey Knights. Keep up the excellent work!

Thank you brother Freybrand. Consider this scene well and truly nicked! Muhahahahahahahahahahaha. : Thank you for all of your help and constant support, brother. :)

As Word Bearer begin his speech, the Vindicar open his eye, the rifle had drifted off its mark. The assassin squirm so the rifle may rest naturally and closed his eyes. Reopening them he saw the cross hairs hovering over the targets head. His breathing slowed as he stared at his target. His target has brown eyes with hints of green in them. Just breath... Suddenly there was screaming and he lost the target. Blinking he zoomed out he saw the Word Bearer sprawled out on the ground. He didn't even remember taking the shot.

@@cypher4783 in the next hiding spot over a Ratling slings his weapon over his back having just ended the Word Bearer, sneaks up on the Assassin, steals his Exitus pistol and scampers off.

Inquisition: That's what we call a pro gamer move.

A few squads spend years ...inquisition kills imperial world job done...vs n legion decimated in assaults....

And then the Empire loses a planet and Word Bearers lose nothing

​@@JoeSmith-sl9bq Well, yeah. Welcome to 40k.

@@Venneroth kind of the way things go. but to say they lost nothing is an understatement. losing that many followers and losing a foothold is quite a blow to chaos. not so much after they incident with the eye but still its something. each chaos space marine lost is actually almost irreplaceable. cheap demonic imitations are one thing but the actual astartes themselves are still limited and their geneseed gets more corrupted over time.

Tom Zhackray thanks for listening brother Tom. :).

Armadio lol. Aye. Something like that. :).

I don’t quite agree with that view of lorgar purpose/specially of war as Valkan, Sanguinius or even the Primarchs Alpha Legion would fit that image better. I believe that Lorgar was originally meant to be the His Praetorian instead of Dorn. Where the Custodians where the Emperor’s personal bodyguard, the 17th legion would have been his Enforcers with the imperium similar how the 20th are his Secret Service or how the 6th are his executioners while the 12th are more tailored to complete destruction all before their Primarchs came to be. It seems like fanatical loyalty is the 17th trait like the alpha legion is secret war or the thousand sons are more warp base warfare. The thing that the 17th was fantastically loyal to happened to be religion

It's amazing how the Emperor forgets what he made each for. Maybe that's how we got to Monarchia. One day he was chilling, considering all the things when he contemplated his sons and their aim... Cut to the Emperor high-tailing it across the Galaxy as he hopes to out-race the results of a ghastly lack of over-sight.

@@rantymcrant-pants9536 That seems like an interesting refrain for those influenced by the Word Bearers "The Emperor forgets."

Heh. yes he was. The Scoundrel. :) Thanks for listening, brother. :)

That;s what we aim for on the Guides. Immersion. Well, when I pull off a whopper. But it takes a lot of time. So I sometimes take light bite week breaks. :) Thanks for listening brother. :)

@@baldermort thisbis great vo work. Should be in the games.

Agreed! Baldamort if it’s possible look into the production of the Eisenhorn tv series variety.com/2019/tv/news/warhammer-40000-series-eisenhorn-in-the-works-the-x-files-frank-spotnitz-1203270041/

All I ever wanted was to defend my people - every tyrant ever. (just a joke brother, just a joke - lorgar is a complicated chap. I look forward to doing his Primarch entry one day. ) Thank you for listening. ;)

Turns out Logar acutely could NOT handle the truth.

@@asaenvolk or, is he the only one who can

And what is truth but the delusional assurance of certainty of that which cannot be, that which never will be or never was.

“YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH!”- The Emperor

ROFL!!!¬!!!!!!!! :) :)

Well language does evolve over time...

Dude yes

May I ask in which book this wonderful part is written?

@@andidanga3524 it was in the Betrayer, it´s awesome read.

Preceded by the worst moment ever... Murder of Argel Tal

Kharn once again giving us multiple reasons to love him

Thanks, brother Richard. Word Bearers are all kinds of special. Wait until you see the end for my take on them in its entirety. I really hope you enjoy it. :)

Baldermort's Guide to Warhammer that epilogue was deliciously evil. So very well done!

Richard Kesner thank you, brother a Richard. It took some doing to get it right. I was a bit too graphic in my first draft. Had to tone it down. Lol. Elated you enjoyed it. .).

The imperial truth is bald=evil and that you must never trust a primarch without hair.

Roboute Guilliman hmmm. You say this to a man called Baldermort. Bald. Who’s sobriquet is the hairless death?’ *take off kid gloves*. Oooooohhhhhh. I’m gonna get you, Guilliman. :). But - silliness aside - thanks for watching, Primarch Guilliman. :).

Religion is the only mistake

@@OverseerXIII A religion born from the love of a son for the father he adored. Lorgar never wanted to be what he became. He just wanted something to love the way he loved his father. The Chaos Gods provided that to him in his darkest hour. Which makes them all the more horrid.

@@HoundofOdin if the Big E actually had foresight, he should have just obliterated lorgar and have one of the lost primarchs take his place instead.

@@OverseerXIII Ironically the religion he made works better than State atheism

You know that he gave his men to demons for eternal torment for information right?

A very nice way of looking at things. I like it. I don;t hold that opinion, but yours is as valid as mine any day of the week. I love this hobby just for that. So much potential for escapism. But Lorgar is right. His father is indeed now a god and he is probably the most important person in making that happen. :) Thanks for listening and taking the time to share your thoughts, brother. :)

Oh how that would be a slap to the face for the Corpse Emperor 🤣

lorgars visions of the future are full of shit. I would only take konrads visions seriously, at least he wasnt full of shit.

The most petty way to win an argument ever.

@@baldermort How can a Corpse be a God? #VengeanceforMonarchia

Fair points, brother. I am not sure we will ever know. The difference in the characters from each writer makes it hard to see who is the demon and who is the angel. Always. Which is what makes it all so much fun. :) Thank you for listening, brother. :)

Hey he gave the 8th to an unstable and broken murderer

@skullpull 101 Is Lorgar a narcissist? He never seemed to place himself far above his peers. He even let Kor Phaeron and Erebus counsel him. I'm not sure what war crimes he committed either. I've read the Word Bearers greatest brutality was after Monarchia when they complied with the Emperor's demand to conquer more worlds.

@skullpull 101 Soldiers either die for the chaos gods or the god emperor. I guess I'll need to watch that Arch video. I recall Lorgar taking better care of his sons than most other traitor primarchs. During the dropsite massacre he ran in to protect his Gal Vorbak from Corax, almost getting himself killed in the process.

Lorgar thought highly of himself yes, but not in the same way as his other brothers, he wanted to be a peacekeeper, a philosopher, a writer, an orator. Its easier to explain it by posting a discussion between lorgar and kor phaeron which he admits that he is lesser to his brothers in terms of warfare and fighting but he opines as to why his father (the emperor) would not approve of oration, diplomacy, and philosophy which lorgar excels at. And like why skypants said, Lorgar was an affection primarch, who literally defied fate by charging against something he KNEW would be his death just to protect his genesons against corax.

Nuke Dukem thank you, brother. I hope you enjoy it. Have a beer for me. Not had one in way too long. :).

Nice to see I'm not the only one with this routine

This is literally what i'm doing also.

Wise indeed...

Judge Dredd the Law thank you, Judge. Just trying my best to entertain a bit. :). :).

@@baldermort spectacular! Will be checking the black templars video....have a special reason to like them ☺️

Thank you for listening, Midnight. Abaddon? Heh. Daft sod. I have less respect for him than most...... But, I'll wave his flag on his own video. :)

Yeah that’s funny though there was one scene in a book that I really enjoyed with Abaddon talking to talos of the night lords in soul hunter but talos does roast him and his legion that was also funny.

he still killed sigismund...

Red Vexx he’s a corking character. Don’t worry, when he gets his own video he will shine. I always do vids purely from the factions’ perspective. Abaddon is badass. Don’t worry. :).

@@deepblue1846 yes he did. After Sigismund roamed the void for centuries in countless battles. He was by that time an old man and even Failbaddon had nothing but respect for him.

Because it is. He is definitely more than just an exremely powerful psyker.

Thank you. Just trying to 'show instead of tell' as it makes things easier for newer players I thought. The burning of Ultramar.... good times...... good times. :)

The gods sowed their existence like seeds in the cultures and religions of all worlds that humanity settled..always a quartet, always under differing names and interpertations Khaan, Tazeen, Nergat, Slannat...but they were there before the Dark Age of technology reached its apocalyptic crescendo. And would be there when humanity were but fractured leftovers spread amongst the stars. Alone in the dark void. Yet The gods answered. Fear not the primordial truth.

But, What's a god? So there are being of higher power than humans. Yes... look at C'tan, Old Ones, Hell even the Tyranid Hive Mind is a higher being in many ways. Does that mean theyre Gods? No. Thats just a silly word for beings of immense power. Theyre still JUST beings, capable of being created and destroyed. All of them are nothing more than more childish mortals, playing in the sandbox of the universe. Theyre just a slightly bigger creature. There could be things that dwarf even the chaos 'gods'.

Well, if something or someone is a god it doesn't mean it's good/moral/healthy/as-you-wish-how-to-say-it to worship it (I am looking at you, four certain entities of warp). But in Emperor's case there is important question: how to worship god worth to worship when is not interested in... being worshiped? I am afraid there's just only one way. Accept... choice. There are still things like admiration and inspiration and following. So yes, long story short, Lorgan failed in "test". ;)

Nathaniel Rourke Lol. Unlikely they would engage in the conversation. ;).

They would probably say he faked it to make konrad’s flank possible

Hard to say they would be bothered so much, Lorgar always was the weakest of the bunch, he did become a full daemon with pimping horns though... so, that's cool.

@@Rogerio_FM I hate this opinion of lorgar being the weakest, he was only considered the weakest primarch because of how long his legion would take to bring a planet under compliance but we know now that this was only due to lorgar using diplomacy striking treaties and building his cities and the populace to worship the emperor. When the word bearers and world eater legions first launched their shadow crusade Angron himself was impressed and felt like he underestimated lorgar and the word bearers legion as they were KEEPING up with angron and his legion possibly waging war even better than them with the butchers nailed enhancing them. Lorgar proved during the hersey he was far from being the weakest primarch.

@@Dr.Gainzzz They mean he's weakest physically as in without counting his chaos powers

WOW. I will try not to let you down then. Can;t promise, but I will try, Thank you for listening and the amazing generosity of your comment. Thank you!

Weird isn't it? I think all of the factions are really interesting, have massive merit in the saga and Word Bearers are NO joke. In this modern era of the Psychic Awakening they are titans. But I am waiting to see what happens when Aurelian comes out of his meditation. Its going to get hectic real fast. :) Thank you for listening and never let the nay-sayers get you down. :)

@@baldermort Apparently Lorgar got out of his meditation and got his ass kicked by Corax in one of the new short stories.... which according to me is absolute nonsense...I don't care what magical powers you get in the warp from constantly killing demons, you do NOT beat a literal god just because its cool to the majority. GW are clearly playing favorites and it's becoming a bit too black and white for my liking. However it is lucky that it's all fantasy so i make my own cannon. Many thanks again for all your effort. It really shows

@@evropaawake4421 There are no Gods literal or other wise, the emperor was vary clear, And the Word Bearers are retards that don't have the ability to listen to what they are told. The warp aliens are just that. Different powerful, but nothing as a God Not even a little close. One day, they to will fall, wiped away but others more powerful.

@@lkuhhdsfgasdgvdadfg So you're just ignoring the fact that in the actual lore there are 4 major chaos GODS that very real and interact with the world? Alright then. Sure the Emperor said No, but in the lore it's clear he lied. Besides atheism = meaningless existence, word bearers didn't want a meaningless existence. Simple

@@evropaawake4421 Not really a god if you risk death by starvation if people stop praying to you. That is not a God, that is a leech. None of the five are gods. Athiesm does not mean a meaningless existence. It means that the meaning of one's existence is not built around a metaphysical being.

Bwahahahaahahaah. From a certain point of view, non? Thanks for listening, brother Lucius.

I was thinking this as well, I said to myself "Why, him having excellent oratory skill, philsophy, faith, etc. was he not able to plead his case better?" Was it a failing on the part of the Emperor to not adequately warn Lorgar, to chastise him first better, in private? Then again, Lorgar did, against pragmatism amd wastefully divert resources away from the Emperor and his plan and put them to use in a way that didn't help him.

The Inundation well, sometimes no argument, no matter how brilliant, gets results. If someone slew a family member, would their reason be worth it? Few would listen. I think there is some disconnect and dissonance in writing the Emperor from some BL books. But I try to tie it up if I can. Lorgar and Angron are tough sells to me for a reasonable Emperor. It’s going to take some serious thought and juggling for an emperor video. But perhaps two. A flip side set piece couple. Urg. Make my head hurt already. Lol. One day we will get to the emperor. When I am good enough. Not for a while yet then. Lol. :).

@@baldermort we were talking, and need to know how many lozenges we need to bribe you with to get a good Angron? 😂

@@TheInundation I mean was it wasteful? they took their time but I doubt any world conquered by the wordbearers would ever revolt. A couple generations of peace and people will forget the terror of the nightlords; a century of prosperity and people will question why are they paying this distant faceless tyrant of the stars, while growing fat off guilliman's infraestructure; give them a generation and they'll start thinking that the angels of death that will castigate them if they revolt are just a tall tale of fat aristocrats and weird red robed spooks trying to cling to power; with time the banners of the great fortress will fade and maybe it's guardian's memories of the hands that built it and the gauntleted fist that ordered their ancestors to watch over it will fade with them. Not to say that his aproach was anything close to the best but it had it's merits in a galaxy were the main institution was this necesarilly artificial empire oddly full of religious imagery. My prefered excuse to the inconsistency of big E with Lorgar is that he knew he was telling a boldface lie and the the primarchs were a walking ever looming threat to his imperial truth,so he did what most people liying under a galaxy sized amount of preasure do and just stuck to the rehearsed script and tried to not draw the attention of his hyper inteligent supersons to the lie. So he just sent Lorgar into the galaxy like all of his troops, blind lambs into forest infested with multi-headed, fire-breathing, tentacle-covered wolves maybe trusting that the wolves were few and the forest big enough that they wouldn't find that many till they conquered everything. That might be an awfully hopeful shot in the best of circumstances but the great crusade was a giant leap of faith allready so I guess it was't hard to just hope a little more. So in that silent desperation of a contraband carrying person in an airport he hoped; he hoped that the iconoclasts would change Lorgar as they were as opposite to their primarch as any legion could be and that would make the result of the reunion the opposite of all the others( assuming The Emperor had the time to notice any of the effects of the other reunions beyond combat results). So when he found that Lorgar was endangering all that was sacrificed in the altar of defeating Chaos reminding him that people,even among his bulwark against terror, could choose not to head his lie two of the most human emotions took the place of hope, anger and fear. So he scolded his "son" like one scolds a dog that dugged under the flowers of the backyard, there was little teaching and much venting and self-reasuring that he was indeed holding the leash. Maybe it was thinking less of the mortals and more of a choir of laughing gods, a demonstration of his power over his shinning sword made to kill the darkness. So he left the naughty dog and hole on the backyard for latter, as there would be time for fixing what was broken after he was done. For the end was in sight, the gods grew weaker with every day that passed as all the bridges to their realms burned in the fires of his curated creed of reason and their voices were drowned in the roaring of his perfect machines of war, for his dogs lead them well while he held 18 leashes. Or maybe is just bad characterization, sorry for the wall of text but your videos are kinda inspiring dude, great stuff.

I enjoyed blasting Word Bearers with a heavy bolter in Chaos Gate (cool game. BTW)

The Lion will be the one who will deliver the fate to Lorgar and the Word Bearers which Uncle Roboute should have done...

Well tell that to corax because if there’s one thing a word bearer or lorgar fears it’s hectic bird man

Did he actually beat An'ggrath, or was An'ggrath ordered to lose in order to further draw Lorgar into the service of Chaos?

@@headlibrarian1996 Nope..! Lorgar won, straight up. Conniving, plot twists and other such "surprises..?" are the domain of Tzeentch. (and NO ONE despises The Changer of Ways more than the Blood God!) Lorgar is, perhaps the WORST sort of enemy for The Imperium - He's methodical, calculating and worst of all..? Patient. What's more he possess the absolute most deadly of Big-E's talents: He's a Powerful, Charismatic public speaker, one capable of inspiring either the best or WORST in those around him! (a few speeches, an few "hymnals" and he'd have folk running head first into enemy fire, with a smile on their faces!) Lorgar, (like The Emperor) should come w/a warning label - "WARNING..! Charismatic Leader - May be Hazardous to your health."

David Ryan thank you., brother. All of my videos are from the perspective of the faction. So I will contradict myself a lot. But that is the beauty of Warhammer. Lots of ways of looking at it. :) Thanks for listening. :).

Yep. Scary aren't they? Well, they scare me! Thank you for listening, brother Black. :)

Johnny hiya, colonel. Well, E did what he did. But Lorgar’s acts were waaay more an issue than his speed. Imperial truth eh? We can discuss soon I hope. See you at the club - or pop over for a coffee - minimum - game if possible. :). Thank you for listening. :).

It was much more than just compliance. Lorgar was telling everyone the Emperor was a god, this directly contradicts what the Emperor wanted to portray himself as.

@@Shpongle64 it was still wiping out a perfectly peaceful loyal city just for spite, it was the catalyst for the first Primarch to turn against the Emperor, If big E hadn't done it then the whole civil war may have never happened.

Johnny well you could say a planet is a big thing but in the end he just broke lorgars favorite toy. And big E was kind of nice by sending the ultramarines and not the world eaters, nightlords or space wolves. They even discussed the annihilation of lorgar and his legion for the failings. But lorgar did not care about how „nice“ big E was. Hey just wants to worship. And found the Chaos Gods.

@@robohobo2325 I would hardly call what the Emperor did 'nice'. Monarchia was not Lorgars 'toy' it was a labor of love dedicate to his father. If his worship was wrong then why did the Emperor wait a entire century to 'correct' him, Lorgar never hid his faith. The Ultramarines destruction of Monarchia was also not a clean affair either, they bluntly landed demanding everybody to leave the city or die, threatening the people for asking them why and even killed protesters without hesitation. Guilliman himself felt that what the Emperor forced him to do was too far and would only lead to trouble. Lorgar did not want to worship for the sake of it, he wanted the truth because he saw that the Imperial Truth was the lie that it was, the signs throughout the galaxy were too many, the pattern they formed was clear to those who bothered too look. He did not worship the Emperor as a God because he 'wanted to worship' but because the Emperor was a god in all but name. He could do the impossible, create or destroy live, make or unmake a world, hell not just worlds entire STAR SYSTEMS. He saw the effect of the Eldars Fall, feared that the same would happen to humanity and that fear set him on his path.

Blue Bowser thank you, brother Blue. OMS are a very different type of channel. They work hard and post daily. I work as hard, but with a different goal. Quantity has a quality all of its own? I think there is space for all of us really. Not to disagree with you in any way - just to be fair to them really. I hope you enjoy what we do here. Welcome to the brotherhood. :).

@@baldermort I guess I just prefer quality over quantity.

Thank you brothers. OMS have covered so many topics its imposbile for me to catch up. So I don;t try and am just concentrating on the fun, drama and entertainment factor. I just want a newbie to have an easier access into the hobby. I hope that my flavour pieces, though never perfect, give people a reason to want to play a faction. Thank you for listening, brothers. :)

u trip over oms on the way to the others.

Thanks a million, brother Chaoticron. This one was an attempt to get 'more' out of the sound. Bit tiring. Can't say I will be able to do that every time. Well, if its any good. I'm too close to know sometimes. I hope you enjoy it. :)

@@baldermort you do good every time, no need to tire yourself out, just keep doing what you're doing, and you'll do fine

Baldermort and Oculus Imperia are the two best 40k channels by far. They put artistry in their vids and go above and beyond.

jizburg thank you for saying that, brother. That is why I do it. Love of the factions. The setting. So glad I helped tonight. It makes it all worth while. :).

@@baldermort are you going to do a reading of the ritual of the damned? I so love hearing you reading that stuff.

LOL! Lorgar will need to fix daddy so he can move his arms again for that. ROFL. Thanks for listening. :)

Sindri Myr thank you, brother. I am very relieved you enjoyed it and felt it ‘rang true’. :). Phew. :). Thank you for listening. :).

Inignot12 that is exactly what I am aiming at. Trying to make it easier for a newbie to ‘get it’ quickly. Then they can go on to other more heavy-weight channels. :). Thanks for listening, brother Ingnot. :).

Thank you, brother Cassidy. I will endeavour to try to improve. Some things take a loooong time to get done. Crowds are definitely one of them. :) If the background sound effects help, then more there shall be! Thanks for that also. I loved doing that speech. I did have a longer version, but it was simply too long, so I had to take the highlights. Elated that it did the job in its condensed version. :) Thanks for listening, as always. : )

Rick thank you, brother. Oc does a different thing to me, I think I envisage people starting here and going on to Oc and LT really. I’m no heavyweight. Just entertainment and maybe a slightly different view. I hope it’s fun. :). Thank you for watching, brother. :).

@@baldermort as I've said before, you are finding your own niche, for sure. But the quality is absolutely there

@@baldermort Heavyweight enough to delve into the perspective of these characters and their factions, to be the perspective and make it immersing. don't sell yourself short.

Foul Mood Central gratuitously kind of you, brother. Let’s just go immersive and see where in it takes us. :). Let us old hands shoe the newbie what they are Missing! :). And than you brother, for your kindness. It means the world. .)?

I feel your anger, Brother. What happened at Monarchia was extreme. Miscalculated even. But Lorgar and his bastards ruined EVERYTHING. It was they that turned brothers and cousins against each other and sold humanity out to those four Warp Cancers masquerading as Gods.

Thank you for listening, brother. :)

Thank you brother Crasher. *bows to brother crasher*. Don’t give too much brother. I am astonishingly grateful. But I do want you to be ok. Get sone hobby stuff - have fun. :). Chaos is so juicy to play. Excellent choice. Really looking forward to playing my Iron Warriors next year. :)

Spekd* thank you for listening, brother. I hope the brushes were accurate and the paint obeyed. :).

@@baldermort oh! how they obeyed. How they stayed within every line.

Magnificent. Glad it helped pass the time easier. :)

I tend to try to stick up for the downtrodden factions a bit more than some. As you say, I thought they deserved some shine. Epic army. Most are, but some don;t see the appeal. Its very subtle indeed. :) Thank you for listening and commenting, brother Coswell. :)

emil viuff welcome to the channel and tribe. Thanks for listening brother. :).

Thank you for that, brother. Its an introduction and a flavour piece only. So it won;t please all. But I am elated you enjoyed it. :)

Thank you, brother Bryan. Phew. :)

Thanks Brother! I will be starting another Primarch very soon. Traitor, of course. :)

Thank you for that, brother Silent. I'll keep trying to maintain the characterisations then. ;)

LOL! :) :) :)

Glad to hear it! :) :)

Thank you, brother. Onwards and upwards, hopefully. :) Thank you for listening, brother. Always. :)

michael murphy alas, my post production is torturous, as my ability to read out clearly is still very new. So I end up removing errors, breathing, etc. But do I put myself through any alteration? Nope. I just give it my best amateurish go and hope it’s tolerable. :). Price is a legend. Legend. If only I were half as talented. I only started in September on lore and voice work - apart from being silly in roleplaying games - so it’s very much a work in progress. Glad it’s ok. Thank you for listening. :).

Thanks, boss. Took a loooot of time to do. So fiddly, still made a gaggle of errors. But all a learning curve. :)

NECRONS!!!

@@Duppyman695 NECRONS!!

The Silent King is coming soon!!!

Thanks Brother Inundation - it took a looot to do. But I can keep putting in there if it works. Just not every week. Lol But if the sound effects help then we can use them. more. Many thanks. :)

Amazingly generous of you. Amazingly. But there are so many good sites out there. Hence us being so tiny here. But : So far..... so far. The skills are only improving here on the guides. I am still not where I want us to be. But maybe one day.; Thank you for your generosity in commenting, brother. :)

That'd make for a cool premise for a short story, actually. I'd read that.

Evan Pacheco thank you brother. Light entertainment. I am glad it helped the drudge. :).

Joe Darby thank you, brother. It does take a lot of effort to do, but I like to think it is worth it. :). Thank you for liking and taking the time out to comment. But thanks a billion for sharing. KZfaq isn’t my best friend when it comes to sharing my videos. Lol. Thank you. :).

Baldermort's Guide to Warhammer no, thank you!

Well, not all are as in depth sound wise, but we are trying to make the big ones more immersive. Its fiddly work, but I think it is worth it. Thank you for joining us on the guides, brother Inthemorn. :_)

*jaw hits floor* I now need to watch all of the cut scenes again. My last Computer died so I don't have it on a near completed save. Damn Sergeant! Damn!!!!!!!

@@baldermort LOL! My son played it for me on his phone and my mouth was open in utter shock.... You can search: Dawn of war Dark Crusade - All Intro Cutscenes. TTFN!

@@baldermort Also in the Chaos intro cut scene where the word bearers are fighting the Ultra Marines the Chaos banner bearer's banner looks strikingly like the Blood Ravens chapter banner. Whether this banner is simply an oversight by the developers of the game or not, the game originally wasn't cannon, but over time it has become official lore. TTFN!

@@baldermort The only other legion that one could argue given this (revelation) would be the Red Angel's Bloody thirteenth. But the Blood Ravens lack the um...... (fanatical zeal for visceral melee) that even the pre- herasy War Hounds possessed. But seem to wield the cold fury of the Imperial Heralds. TTFN!

Actually the Primarch of the Blood Ravens is Magnus the Red apparently.

Thank you, brother. I am very glad it hit the spot. :)