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World of Tanks vs War Thunder Part 2

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Semicooperative

Semicooperative

5 ай бұрын

#warthundergameplay #warthunder #worldoftanks #worldoftanksgameplay

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@kugel5523
@kugel5523 5 ай бұрын
WoT: here a sheet of paper explaining the game mechanic that you need to remember WT: here a 400 page book of the game mechanic, and you need to remember them all
@morrischen5777
@morrischen5777 5 ай бұрын
And often some of the pages involving classified documents 😂
@villie86
@villie86 5 ай бұрын
"here a sheet of paper explaining the game mechanic that you need to remember" Said the Fat Controller while hiding the second page behind his back.
@CallsignTrike
@CallsignTrike 4 ай бұрын
and theres a seperate 400 page book just for keybinds
@turkeypeck1
@turkeypeck1 5 ай бұрын
These videos feel like a short tutorial for both games while explaining the difference between the two systems.
@KorporalNoobs
@KorporalNoobs 5 ай бұрын
I can tell you, that watching vids from War Thunder creators is a pretty good thing to get into the game. The lanes and shot-placement aid loads in the early game.
@Person4772
@Person4772 5 ай бұрын
An important note about Autoloaders in War Thunder, Ammo restocking is cancelled after firing, but also after reloading, so when your first stage ammo is empty it will only replenish one shell before reloading and starting the timer over again. you can also replenish this directly on a Capture point, as ammo will restock in a certain order, with the first stage ammo being replenished first. Also there are multiple types of Autoloaders, some are labelled as Autoloaders and will not fire without First Stage ammo. but there are some that still allow manual loading at a slower pace if the First stage ammo is depleted. these include the Chi Nu II for Japan also Volumetric Shells in War Thunder will not just catch on armoured components, but any component, including Glass Vision blocks, Sheet metal Fenders and other unarmoured components, which is where a lot of the problems are. War Thunders Fire is actually a lot more dynamic than you would expect, it will only damage components that are within a certain radius of the fires origin point, this radius will increase over time and deal increasing damage as well. turrets with a "Bustle" or overhang will actually take damage within that overhang if the fire is close enough, so rotating the turret away from the engine deck can help. the fire is also blocked by Firewalls and Internal bulkheads unless those are damaged or destroyed already. Ammo Fires can also be made Non-Lethal by "Blowout Panels" such as on Top Tier NATO Tanks, but these follow the same rules and will be lethal if the corresponding bulkheads were destroyed beforehand. Ammo Types actually vary a lot from vehicle to vehicle as well, and their properties are shown in the technical name of the shell itself. there is a pretty good guide on the Steam Guides section for War Thunder that goes into detail on each letter in the shells name. but the basic ones are: -AP: Armour Piercing, self explainatory -HE: High Explosive, Projectile has Explosive filler of some kind -BC: Ballistic Cap, so it wont ricochet on less extreme angles -CR: Composite Rigid, Ricochets and Shatters more often, but has more penetration and a shallower damage cone -DS: Discarding Sabot, which means it is a "Subcaliber" Round that is similar to the CR modifier, but also has lower accuracy -FS: Fin Stabilised: means higher accuracy on Smoothbore guns, but lower accuracy on Rifled ones -AT: Anti Tank: Usually wth the prefix of HE to make HEAT. Has almost no damage cone, but high penetration. it used to detonate on all destructable and non-destructable map objects, but this has apparently been changed and it is now inconsistent Armour in War Thunder also has multiple types that have different resistences to various ammo types. RHA is Generic thickness, High Hardness steel is around 1.45x as effective as its thickness and so on.
@satiricalcookie1381
@satiricalcookie1381 5 ай бұрын
I really enjoy your videos and as someone with over 2k hours in War Thunder and mildly interested in WoT I'm quite impressed at how much detail from both games is presented in them. Overall very high quality content and probably the most in-depth comparison between the 2 games there is to find!
@theninja6516
@theninja6516 2 ай бұрын
Concerning the mechanics of the ammorack on War thunder there are surprising details and very well thought out in my opinion ^^ For example sometimes we make an ammorack and we have a small explosion and sometimes it is an almost nuclear explosion, in fact it is not due to chance but to the number of munitions that the adversary is carrying. The more shells there are, the greater the explosion. Also you can survive an ammorack provided you have very few shells x) The more shells you have, the greater the probability of dying after an ammorack. This game is full of little details and I find it fascinating.
@android_sent_by_cyberlife
@android_sent_by_cyberlife 5 ай бұрын
2:40 the icon is from a HEAT shell, which is often the premium shell which costs _a lot_
@toasterhothead3312
@toasterhothead3312 5 ай бұрын
As a former world of tanks player (now a wt player with 1.7k hrs), iv gotten so used to WT mechanics that world of tanks mechanics and research and everything about it seem both under whelming yet absurd hahaha and I can barely comprehend it anymore
@rofldragonxd4516
@rofldragonxd4516 5 ай бұрын
probably should've compared war thunder's ground arcade mode too as that's what new players will be playing (or some players just prefer overall)
@ping-bi3dm
@ping-bi3dm 5 ай бұрын
The inconsistent on war thunder is for realism,after a shel hit something it migth get caught. And a game being hard is not a problem,is like saing that dark souls is bad because it does not have a easy mode.
@villie86
@villie86 5 ай бұрын
It does make successes feel more enjoyable, I have to admit.
@tangohotel2599
@tangohotel2599 4 ай бұрын
The problem with WT armor viewer is that it really isn’t accurate. It says the Panther can penetrate the upper front plate of a Jumbo (M4A3E2) but in the actual game it struggles to do it consistently or well, at all. Gaijin would have to rework the armor viewer for it to really be accurate
@toasterhothead3312
@toasterhothead3312 5 ай бұрын
Omg please release them more please please please. Almost disappointed I found only the first and second one right now instead at the end of all your videos. Also if they ain’t put them into a playlist
@Daniel-oc5fj
@Daniel-oc5fj 5 ай бұрын
Good video but when explaining shell types you mixed up the pictures, for HE you showed HEAT rounds and for Gold (HEAT or APCR) you showed HE rounds - also gold rounds aren't the best choice almost always as tanks with HEAT gold ammo cannot shoot through spaced armour and map covers such as a box or car meaning that if you spam only HEAT in a game instead of standard ammo which is usually AP but sometimes APCR you will probably do worse than someone who relies more on weak spot aiming with standard ammo as AP and APCR go through spaced armour and destroyable cover. For APCR it has its drawbacks as the degree of penetration normalization is much less than AP (2 degrees instead of 5) meaning even a little bit of angling can bounce APCR much easier than AP. So really, for optimal performance spamming full gold in most tanks that have HEAT (and some tanks with lower APCR pen) is not the optimal play, instead a 4:6 ratio of standard to gold ammo is usually the most optimal ratio.
@altavelmcnamara
@altavelmcnamara 5 ай бұрын
Yes, totally agree, thx for you comment.
@semicooperative7188
@semicooperative7188 5 ай бұрын
You're right on that. Reuploading this is awkward, but I'll fix it for the supercut
@toasterhothead3312
@toasterhothead3312 5 ай бұрын
U put out a video a day, with your calming voice and clear knowledge you would quickly grow…but…I kinda like how unique u r in the sense that unlike all the other warthunder accounts, u don’t do 1 video a day but there is a decent amount of editing and it’s more about the game in general and less about the vehicles. Regardless I think you’ll become just as popular as Oddbawz, Spook, Phly (the OG WT guy), and Justin! I hope to see more and can’t wait for your growth!
@yaalpi
@yaalpi 2 ай бұрын
The overmatch is explained, the 2 caliber rule and the 3th caliber rule, I know it from the german WoT channel, it's where I learned using Cos in triangles!
@petrkdn8224
@petrkdn8224 4 ай бұрын
Hello, im just watching this series for the first time as a previous WOT player (~2011/2012-2014/2015 ) and now as a WT player (2016-cureently 2024). I have ton of hours in WT. And i believe you missed a small part at around 16:00. I actually do think , that i remember, that WT shells also do have penetration variation on shells but its much smaller like 5% so its barely noticeable but i could be wrong, i dont have time to research this now Edit: and also WT *DOES* have overmatch too, but its i think 8x the thickness of the plate. So like a 152mm ap shell will always go through ~20mm plate. But itself has so much penetration that it would have penetrated anyway.. or atleast the overmatch prevents bouncing of the shell.
@Kaput74
@Kaput74 5 ай бұрын
Would be great if you also talk about how the minimum computer specs compare. I play WoT because I have an old potato computer but it runs the game great in minimum settings. I dont know alot about computer specs but with all the details and realistic aspects of WT I fear my old pc would explode.
@Consumpter
@Consumpter 5 ай бұрын
"premium ammo" in war thunder is when you bring a full armor piercing belt on an SPAA that only carries one massive ammo belt, sometimes those belts cost more than the entire vehicle even if you spend 1 round of the belt such as the russian zsu 37 and 23 where ammo costs 3-4k while the vehicle rarely racks up more than 2-3k in repair
@quangnhat5345
@quangnhat5345 5 ай бұрын
The problem with the vehicle preview is the that simulator shot is actually not reliable in the real game, since dog shit hit reg and other bullshit like fragmentation rate is different between simulator shot and the real server game, also the crew vitality level. Yeah sure you can use it to find a weak spot in the frontal armor, but in real game, you shot it, it go through, on the simulator it say you will kill the driver and the gunner + commander with that shot, but in the real game, your shot may only kill the driver while leaving the gunner and commander intact, thus the result is your death. Hence why we don't really like it very much at high tier. However, this tool is very effective at low - mid tier - AKA WW2 to Early cold war Era due to how APHE work.
@beatlovermax5603
@beatlovermax5603 5 ай бұрын
If any WT player has any questions about WOT feel free to ask, I have about 1000 hours in both WT and WOT 22:12 The cooldown is 90s, as well as just having large repair kit or medkit equipped reduces the chance your modules get damaged by 10%, same with the auto fire extinguisher. So the difference isn’t exclusively economic.
@semicooperative7188
@semicooperative7188 5 ай бұрын
I plan to go more in depth in the economy section about these consumables, especially as you can commonly find them on discount, but you are currect
@ItzCPU_
@ItzCPU_ 5 ай бұрын
For warthunder, you didn’t talk about SPAA vehicles with: radar/IRST, EEGS or vehicles with lazer warning systems, etc. Sorry for the nit picking, good video!
@semicooperative7188
@semicooperative7188 5 ай бұрын
AA and air getting their own sections like WoT artillery. They're just a little too different to fit in neatly here.
@ItzCPU_
@ItzCPU_ 5 ай бұрын
@@semicooperative7188 Thats great!
@altavelmcnamara
@altavelmcnamara 5 ай бұрын
14:40 actually you need to have higher penetration than the effective thickness of the armor you are shooting at. You can’t penetrate the roof of IS3 with low AP pene 105 mm howitzers. Great video though!
@a..c..2469
@a..c..2469 5 ай бұрын
So glad you did this video because i was wanting to check out another tank game beside war thunder, if you have any recommendations i would appreciate it
@Nightmare_52
@Nightmare_52 5 ай бұрын
if you want a game to try out there is armored warfare with their pve mode and generally modern tanks
@ItzCPU_
@ItzCPU_ 5 ай бұрын
Stick with warthunder, if you like realism(and multiplayer).
@a..c..2469
@a..c..2469 5 ай бұрын
@@Nightmare_52 thanks for the reply, I'm gonna check it out
@a..c..2469
@a..c..2469 5 ай бұрын
@@ItzCPU_ I can't get away from War Thunder ever😂
@ehannasir8464
@ehannasir8464 5 ай бұрын
@@a..c..2469 unfortunately most tank games are just grind pits, that just feel like suffering. if you want tanks only wot and wotb (pc) has that (wotb has faster matches). oh and war gaming is releasing some weird new tank game called "project cold war", less realistic and based off operators and abilities (looks cool tho) i haven't tried other tank games but i have heard tank company is good
@thackest2k
@thackest2k 5 ай бұрын
On console wot there is kinda test drive mode but it’s in coop so it’s handy to test new toys Plus console has the multi turret/gun systems
@kazekami7313
@kazekami7313 5 ай бұрын
I've been playing WoT a tiny bit (reachet Tier 8 in there), but played blitz for almost 9 years. I've had several problems with wargaming's way of game management, such as : - less and less driveable spots on their maps. - RNG determining who wins, or when you penetrate...meaning : At least 2 out of 10 shots just go way above/below where you want to shoot, thus missing, and even if its direct hit, at least 1 out of 10 times it just doesn't do any damage. - Premiums bias as strong or stronger than Gaijin's russian bias. - Snowflake mentality about in-game chat. - 90% of the games end in 3 minutes. Compared to that, I've been playing War Thunder for more than a year now, and I found these "errors". - impossible bounces (very, very rare). - Russian bias. - Very, very hard (almost impossible) to get premium vehicles as a f2p.
@deeku3385
@deeku3385 5 ай бұрын
if you actually believe in russian bias then you haven't played the game long enough.
@kazekami7313
@kazekami7313 5 ай бұрын
@@deeku3385 Nah, at first I thought It really was just a salty myth like you...then I got to ovet 5k battles, and suddenly started to see it happen...lack of spalling, gaijin-guided AA bullets hitting me even if they are visibly far from me, better overall performance and survivablity of many vehicles (mostly planes).
@shevalane
@shevalane 5 ай бұрын
seems like its time for you to leak some confidential documents to nerf them@@kazekami7313
@easternpower5204
@easternpower5204 5 ай бұрын
@@kazekami7313 russian bias is for mad german newbies with tunnel view and shitty aim who watch war thunder memes all day and even tho there are many better vehicles for other nations then the soviets have they still suck with them. i experience it myself, when playing soviets, you get such bad enemies that it almost looks like cheating killing the whole enemy team. And if you are hitting a soviet heavy on round edges or driver hatches and think its russian bias, you are just coping at that point.
@kazekami7313
@kazekami7313 5 ай бұрын
@@easternpower5204 Dude, did you ever consider that MM puts bad players againts you? I mean, most of the time when I get to play againts Russia (or worse, Russia/China), half my team has all 0-s on the team statistics, its like I'm playing with afk's. Also, try playing something else then...idk what BR are you on with other nations, but the Russian bias gets real bad from 8.0 and above...as I said, impossible bounces...meaning : 330mm apfsds bounces from an IS-2's turret's side, or a rocket from my heli on direct crew hit makes the dude yellow, or when the ammo I hit turns black and disappears instead of detonating. Have you ever seen a win rate/nation graph? Please look them up. The chinese and russian techtrees are doing incomparably well.
@nicolaspeigne1429
@nicolaspeigne1429 5 ай бұрын
So could you play WoT as a boardgame, a d20 for the accuracy, another dice for the pen, and another one for the damage, you also have to roll a d6 for a chance to crit, etc...
@bendergamecz800
@bendergamecz800 5 ай бұрын
Actually wot have negative Lead but the stats are so good it's hard to see it, just play 1st Japanese light tank with top gun and 50% crew and xou will see it
@Raptoroftanks
@Raptoroftanks 5 ай бұрын
for wot ammo, you have reversed the images, u show the gold ammo speaking of the HE ammo and the HE ammo speaking of the gold one 2:45
@user-wx2el5jy2t
@user-wx2el5jy2t 2 ай бұрын
War thiunder is better
@cubanspy1231
@cubanspy1231 5 ай бұрын
armored warfare dead game lmao
@dexwy
@dexwy 5 ай бұрын
Warthunder needs overmatch
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