Yeah, good point, I'll do that next time :)

THIS is what proper and good feedback looks like. Pretty rare to see on KZfaq.

gunn0508 I know, right?

I guess the problem is that everyone in a DD believe they are a Ninja that needs to try and sneak around - instead of paying attention :D

I wish that too...see Fubuki battle and where the BBs went >_< not fun for me at all

If everybody would play like that, DDs would get nerfed quickly! No, let's be happy to see some baaaad DDs sometimes. (in the ennemy team, it would be great! :P)

If every DD captain played like him, I wouldn't last a week in WoWS.

don't tunnel vision and pay some atention. that applies to ALL classes though

1) dont hug borders, 2) dont stay 20km away from nearest enemy, 3) dont run to borders when the first enemy is spotted, 4) use WASD

and just because you have AP loaded, doesn't mean you can't make big holes in DD hulls. Also featuring how to target DD's with your secondary batteries, and make them question their life choices.

+Sam Polus This.

Also to NOT go straight in at DDs or Cruisers with torps, but rather to turn _Away_ from them full turn early on and kite them. Works so well its almost like cheating.... ;3 (they fail to torp ya, as your guns burn em down) - Also to how to master the "Slow Roll" effect, and when to turn vs when to use reverse as some BBs esp the Germans are very good at changing speed.

For new players reading this in the future, by "capping" he means capturing enemy bases. In the gameplay portion of the video the "caps" are the circles labeled A,B,C,D

Thanks for the explanation. It was, in fact, a burning question right outta the gate.

Thank you :)

Atlanta lacks destroyer's speed/stealth.

Then the Flint

Kutuzov is most definitely a gunboat DD as well. :DD

every soviet ships are fuckin broken

Harugumo lol

AFT on USN dds aint that good though.

Raz0rking Well, it is on the Clemson, which is the only US DD I play as a pure gunboat.

er, clem's actually got a decent amount of torps, 2 on each side.......perhaps next time try to slip between 2 enemy BBs and enjoy the double strike/70k dmg in under 10 seconds

how 'bout that BFT and last stand? ;D

aft is stupid on usn dds

hence the invention of smoke

ThatOneDude unless you got cover the benson will just charge and still get you.

well the thing is, you really need support (role for gunboats to deal with hybrids) but also once gunboat engages, you can also engage. Fubuki guns hurt like hell over 2k per HE salvo...Bensons are good, but won't resist that kind of damage for long

Cheers :D and of course, more to come

s-senpai noticed me :D

which is why you make pre emp turn and stay at the border like what that Fubuki on Khebabroast clip did. From there after assuring that you got a support you slowly advance into the distance where you cover the entire cap zone with your concealment presence and flash out incoming DD, you actually don't have to worry about accidentally running into russian DD, it won't happen if you don't go full speed ahead 24/7

Insanitypepper Yep just started this game. And this happens to me every time. But I'm like a dog in heat. I go screaming towards the nearest cap every time. I get lit up every time. Exactly as you just described.

With small, fragile DD’s I get the the cap, and fire torpedoes into it to discourage the other team from entering but don’t enter myself. Rule 1, stay alive.

You're very welcome, I'm glad this video is helpful :D hopefully you see improvements in your IJN DD experience

Yeah, updating this entire series to bring best possible information :)

Yay :D yeah figured I should go over all the classes and talk about how they play

Lol, hopefully nailed the fundamentals for DDs

You're welcome :)

Thanks and yay Rem :P she's adorable

u da man

That is true, which is why you need gunboat support to back you up, and also use Shima guns, those things will still put a hurt on Fletchers

except from my personal experience, pretty much every single shima's panic reaction after being spotted by my fletcher is to let their torps out, i dont recall any shima firing back at my fletcher lol(i dont have a shima myself)

Mutsuki can do it, only 6 torps but can still make a small wall

But I want to make the great wall of China, like a Shima ;)

I think you mean Great Wall of Japanese empire

Japan has the same wall as the UK does, the SEA!

Thanks! also for the new ship...do you like the Hipper, if yes, then buy premium version, if no, skip. Prinz is just Hipper clone

Almost, lol... and to a point how to play them and in many ways are better than Cruisers though it feels the Magic Hitbox bs was toned back some. *A) Hull on Nickie + Advanced Fire-Training is Fun...* ;3

Yeah, random teams can be pretty rough, but if u play in division or have a few cooperative teammates who listen to chat, isn't as bad :P

They are all useful tbh, depends on the player

The result of doing that is that gunboats just zip around the map totally invisible spamming HE. See old Khabarovsk video in theory crafting and you'll see why it was so broken

That was my assumed reason for why they did it that way.

Thanks, and the hybrids are fun :D do a bit of everything

Offensive smoke may help, but dont shoot ur torp target with guns first or u may alert him.

Islands, islands, islands. Early-mid game get into positions to torp opponents coming around islands. Late game opponents likely anticipate your torpedoes and slow/turn blindly even if they don't detect you. Watch their movements, especially availability of radar, scout plane, etc and plan your approach. Instead of torping from stealth around the island, try to get ahead of them and sandwich them between you and the island, and drop one set. If they turn towards you or stop in the water, close in and put the second narrow set right between the aforeships and the citadel, then burn them once they fix the flooding. If they turn away from you, chances are high they will beach, then you can close the distance, triple torp them at close range and then ram them, which will kill even most BBs. Blyskawica is extremely good at ramming because you do 15k damage with a ram, confirmed flooding, sail/turn fast, etc. Don't try this against other torpedo-wielding ships though(other than IJN cruisers above Furutaka), since they can counter-torp you from the front.

Type 93 oxygen torpedo "Long lance" Looking big? Yes. Long range? Yes. High speed? yes. wake? yep. High explosive? Yes. WG: "It's almost correct!"

The long lance doesn't have a wake

one of interesting trait of oxugen torpedoes coming out of using compressed oxygen as a fuel [hence the name] is that they have had nearly to none wake - they were basically undetectable until it was too late - and also that's one of a reasons why USN captains were doing evasive maneuvers as soon as they have seen IJN destroyer showing a bigger piece of broadside......

You're very welcome :)

TheGerudan It's free 1000 exp. You can do no damage and cap and still have a decent match.

I'll probably get around to cruisers soon too :)

I don't have them but it appears that way

Yes. They fire 1 Torpedo at a time. I've seen footage of that. And they get better firing arcs than the US guns... and fast reload... AND SMOKE! I really don't know how they will balance that (how the fire chance is, how long the smoke lasts / recharges etc.) but given how OP the Flint is with it's terrible firing arcs, I really don't like what I see about the british cruisers so far. From the the footage I saw of them being played, it almost looks as if they made an entire tech tree of Khabarovsks :-/ Seems like Battleships in the future will be even more scared of HE spam, more hesitant to push in and play even more passive. Exactly what the Meta in this game does NOT need.

***** Oh, I am not angry. I am just expressing my worries. There are only so many different ways / styles ships can be played in. All I have seen and read about those new cruisers points in a direction that I could not be less happy with... Just let me explain why I think so: (Infos on citadel size and armor are directly from the armor viewer in game) 1. Huge citadels above the waterline mean they can't take AP hits from the side -> stay angled 2. very weak bow armor plating (16mm for T10) mean your bow armor is overmatched by any BB, including Scharnhorst. The citadel from the bow is pretty big + the citadel plate inside the ship is not sloped in any way + deck armor is very thin as well. So any BB should be able to citadel you right through the front and from almost any range -> stay angled against cruisers and stay far far away from BBs. 3. small caliber guns mean they have bad penetration and AP performance -> use HE 1+2+3 = You will have to stay far away from any BB and you will have to rely on HE -> You will be a passive, long range HE spamming machine. Given that the cruisers (especially IJN) already can do HE spam very very well and are not nearly as vulnerable, the RN CLs seem pointless. There are 2 things that could make them playable: 1. Smoke (which they have) 2. The abilty to stealth fire (which they might have as well, given their small guns) Both these features depend on stealth. Conclusion: You will spam HE from long range (possibly stealth firing) or from smoke (certainly stealth firing)... More HE spam is something this game certainly does not need. Being shot at by invisible targets more frequently is something this game certainly does not need (there is a reason why they increased the soviet DDs gun detection debuff). I know I am speculating to some extent, but my speculations are based on the game mechanics, which I very much doubt will suddenly be different for a new Tech tree. And most of all: Speculations are fun ;-)

They are changing the RN cruisers wholesale apparently...

ok thanks

I'd say scouting and torpedo zoning for torpedo boats support of a fleet for gunboats and something in between for hybrids

It'll come back, just right now I'm wholesale updating this series to bring information up to date