World's First | Tailstock Gearbox Machining | Lion Lathe Restoration

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Vanover Customs

Vanover Customs

16 күн бұрын

Let's build the world's first Aftermarket 2-Speed Tailstock Gearbox. We are crazy and we know it. Enjoy watching 500gb of footage crammed into 32 min of solid action!

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@wdbbrinton
@wdbbrinton 11 күн бұрын
The machining brings back memories I was a Tool & Die Maker for 35 years. Always great to see inventors at work. Keep up the good work.
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 11 күн бұрын
Thank you very much
@19672701
@19672701 13 күн бұрын
Ok,you just upped your badassery eleventeen percent! please paint this a off the wall color!! we need a double thumbs up button!
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 13 күн бұрын
lol no crazy color just white but it will not disappoint I promise
@19672701
@19672701 13 күн бұрын
@@VanoverCustoms White is cool,saw a Monarch over the top resto painted white. good choice
@johnlee8231
@johnlee8231 14 күн бұрын
Striving to make a project the best you can is how we all learn and improve. This'll be something to be proud of.
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 14 күн бұрын
100% agreed
@homemadetools
@homemadetools 5 күн бұрын
Great project; we don't see this level of work very often. We shared this video on our homemade tool forum last week 😎
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 5 күн бұрын
Thanks
@jobkneppers
@jobkneppers 14 күн бұрын
Nice job! I have a suggestion which I learned myself. Really simple stuff can be made without mistakes going along. If it get's a little more complicated, as your gearbox certainly is, it really pays to make a plan in CAD or an reasonable accurate sketch by hand before start. I know it's an extra effort, but it pays of when you make stuff. Ideally you only have to handle/machine a part once and when assembled you're done. Off course tweaking is always a part of the process but adding length to already cut plates doesn't have to happen when you work like this. I'm a designer/builder for 28 years now and I learned the hard way. Get an idea, make a drawing and select all the materials you need when doing so. Make simple drawings to print (or draw) for the parts to be made. Make the parts, assemble and be happy. Hallelujah! Thank you for sharing your honest journey! Best! Job, the Netherlands
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 14 күн бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. I know it to be true. I just didn’t know how to use cad at the time. Learning the program was on my goal list for this year and I started this project last year in October. I’m already knee-deep and using fusion 360 as we speak.
@MyLilMule
@MyLilMule 14 күн бұрын
This is so cool. I love the idea of retrofitting. Nice work, but I wouldn't expect anything else!
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 14 күн бұрын
Thanks Greg
@edsmachine93
@edsmachine93 14 күн бұрын
Very nice work Kyle. The design, weldments, fit and finish. Outstanding work.👍👍💯 Thanks for sharing.
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 14 күн бұрын
Glad you liked it Ed.
@melloman8210
@melloman8210 14 күн бұрын
adam booth, take notes on content creation for projects! this is awesome stuff! I enjoy every one of these videos!
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 14 күн бұрын
Appreciate that man. Thanks
@richardcorwin1828
@richardcorwin1828 14 күн бұрын
If there is such a thing as re-incarnation I want to come back as a machine shop. Thank you sir for sharing.
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 14 күн бұрын
Absolutely
@Mr2eyedjack
@Mr2eyedjack 14 күн бұрын
I have enjoyed your rebuild, looking forward to more.
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 14 күн бұрын
More to come! Lots more
@allenbrown7820
@allenbrown7820 11 күн бұрын
Great video! Subscribed! Waiting on part 2.
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 11 күн бұрын
Thanks for the sub! Part two Saturday
@stacysimon8864
@stacysimon8864 14 күн бұрын
Nice job! That's a factory feature on most Kingston Lathes. They give you selectable 1:1 or 5:1 ratios. Very handy feature to have! I use it quite often.
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 14 күн бұрын
Yes indeed. Lots of nicer lathes have them
@elanjacobs1
@elanjacobs1 12 күн бұрын
@@VanoverCustoms even the Taiwanese stuff is come with it these days
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 12 күн бұрын
@@elanjacobs1 true
@johncrisman576
@johncrisman576 14 күн бұрын
Nice work on an interesting project. You have a knack for editing your video. Good story telling.
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 14 күн бұрын
Thank you very much!
@stevechambers9166
@stevechambers9166 14 күн бұрын
Looks good you don’t mind putting the extra work in to get it right 👍👍👍
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 14 күн бұрын
Agreed
@mohabatkhanmalak1161
@mohabatkhanmalak1161 13 күн бұрын
Fantastic build, enjoyed the process. 🐞
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 12 күн бұрын
Thank you
@MikeBaxterABC
@MikeBaxterABC 5 күн бұрын
19:20 .. That looks REALLY good so far!!!!
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 5 күн бұрын
Thank you
@one4stevo
@one4stevo 14 күн бұрын
That's looking Awesome Great job
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 14 күн бұрын
Thanks
@ypaulbrown
@ypaulbrown 14 күн бұрын
wow wow wow...great footage, love the down the spindle bore shot on the Kearny Trecker at 14.44......
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 14 күн бұрын
Yeah it’s a great shot
@jamesriordan3494
@jamesriordan3494 14 күн бұрын
That finishing pass with the fly cutter 🙌
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 14 күн бұрын
Yeah
@allenbrown7820
@allenbrown7820 11 күн бұрын
Smooth!
@y0taman
@y0taman 14 күн бұрын
Wow what a great video, some amazing machining. I love that you show your "errors"
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 14 күн бұрын
Thank you very much!
@Dug6666666
@Dug6666666 14 күн бұрын
Nice work, you are a braver man than me designing something like that on the fly. Looks like it is working for you though. I like your filming style, saves me skipping ahead while people take measurements and tell me how many extra thou's they are going to take off.
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 14 күн бұрын
Absolutely thanks
@DanelonNicolas
@DanelonNicolas 13 күн бұрын
good job 👏🏻 excited to see post two
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 13 күн бұрын
Absolutely
@ypaulbrown
@ypaulbrown 14 күн бұрын
Outstanding work....
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 14 күн бұрын
Many thanks!
@stevecrawford1238
@stevecrawford1238 14 күн бұрын
Hahaha “it’s about to get really boring in here at the boring” but really…this is an awesome rebuild. What a cool idea.
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 14 күн бұрын
Thanks
8 күн бұрын
Olá amigo que maravilha de trabalho!!! Acompanhando, abraço e boa sorte sempre!!!
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 8 күн бұрын
Thank you
@bozhidarivanov9284
@bozhidarivanov9284 14 күн бұрын
Great job! I have a stock lathe with 2 speed tailstock - Huichon 5. Two speed is very useful when you have to drill large diameter.
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 14 күн бұрын
Good that’s my hope in adding this one
@bernardwill7196
@bernardwill7196 14 күн бұрын
That is a great improvement to the tailstock.
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 14 күн бұрын
Indeed
@2384SKIPPER
@2384SKIPPER 14 күн бұрын
Worlds first is a little stretch here. My Lathe at work has a selector for direct drive or a 1:5 reduction on the tailstock. That machine is from 1998 !
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 14 күн бұрын
2 speed tailstock are extremely common. What I have never seen before is someone adding a legit one to an existing unit. That is the first. If you have proof of someone else doing this send the evidence my way!
@larryperdue508
@larryperdue508 13 күн бұрын
That's a good lesson to be learned always make some kind of blueprint 😊😊
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 13 күн бұрын
Yes indeed!
@SuperJaXXas
@SuperJaXXas 14 күн бұрын
Love it! Need one for my G0602 ;)
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 14 күн бұрын
Thanks
@loganlawlyes1980
@loganlawlyes1980 12 күн бұрын
I own an old herbert no.2d turret lathe, it was a tail stock auto feed with 3 rates of feed ran off of the saddle feed, not much variety but you dont really need 50 different speeds for drilling. An old lathe but a beast
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 11 күн бұрын
Wow that’s cool
@clarkmurphy6980
@clarkmurphy6980 14 күн бұрын
Good stuff. That bandsaw was frigging flying though. I’d change the speed on it and it should be able to get through 4130 no issues. I cut alot of inconel with surface speed of about 60 feet per minute.
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 14 күн бұрын
Yeah probably
@ypaulbrown
@ypaulbrown 14 күн бұрын
Holy Smokes 19:19........that is Art my Friend.........very tasteful and beautiful..... I don't know much about art, but it would look great with my carpet, drapes and furniture........ Seriously, do you have a background in art, because the video you shoot and capture and this or of attention to design and detail sure makes it look that way......Best Wishes from Florida, Paulie
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 14 күн бұрын
No I don’t just ocd. Never picked up a camera before KZfaq. All self taught on pretty much every skill I got. Took a few college classes in welding and automotive but other than that I am 95% self taught.
@Coconut7403
@Coconut7403 13 күн бұрын
Thanks for using a soft hammer this time!
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 13 күн бұрын
lol. This video was filmed on October. I got them you’ll see me use them sometimes. Sometimes you won’t. Such is life
@MikeBaxterABC
@MikeBaxterABC 5 күн бұрын
12:50 That rubber work mat in this shot, is fairly expensive! .. I made an apartment in my house with a closet turned into a tiny toilet and shower! :) ... I used this rubber mat stuff for flooring! ... VERY slip resistant and with the 1/2" X 2" Plastic baseboard, and generous use of silicone sealer?? It made the little washroom floor 100% water tight!
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 5 күн бұрын
Very nice
@gjkozy
@gjkozy 14 күн бұрын
Impressive!
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 14 күн бұрын
Thank you
@silverbullet7434
@silverbullet7434 10 күн бұрын
Several older lathes had two speed tailstocks. Axelson and monarch too I think had that option. But not on small lathes.
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 10 күн бұрын
Very cool good to know
@hilltopmachineworks2131
@hilltopmachineworks2131 14 күн бұрын
Wow! You are knocking this one out of the park. Was that a Suburban Tools fly cutter you were using?
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 14 күн бұрын
Yes it was!
@hilltopmachineworks2131
@hilltopmachineworks2131 14 күн бұрын
@@VanoverCustoms Sweet. I have been eyeing one. Worth the money?
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 14 күн бұрын
@@hilltopmachineworks2131 yeah it is. Honestly you can also make a good one it’s nothing special from an engineering point of view but it is the nicest premade one there is. I have all the different bar sizes. Rigidity is the key to success though. I use it on the bp mostly with the shorter bar. It works well but is less effective as you go bigger on diameter just w vibration. On the k&t it’s like cheating, so ridged, basically perfect finish every time insert is not damaged.
@HansWeberHimself
@HansWeberHimself 14 күн бұрын
Pretty.
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 14 күн бұрын
Thanks
@FireGodSpeed
@FireGodSpeed 14 күн бұрын
Finally someone who is actually roughing with their lathe and not babying it. Healthy feed, speed, depth of cut. What depth of cut did you take? 4mm? 5mm?
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 14 күн бұрын
Exactly .250
@MikeBaxterABC
@MikeBaxterABC 5 күн бұрын
I've never seen a Power Feed tilstock .. it would be handy for drilling!
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 5 күн бұрын
Indeed it will be
@johndebrular979
@johndebrular979 14 күн бұрын
Would like some more info maybe a video on your HBM. Never seen a Mikwaukee HBM.
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 14 күн бұрын
I’ll get to it. no Milwaukee hbm your seeing a 4H but I have a Lucas hbm
@patrickmazzone9066
@patrickmazzone9066 11 күн бұрын
Excellent Beautiful
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 10 күн бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@patrickmazzone9066
@patrickmazzone9066 10 күн бұрын
@@VanoverCustoms Great cool good things
@patrickmazzone9066
@patrickmazzone9066 10 күн бұрын
Awesome
@georgedennison3338
@georgedennison3338 6 күн бұрын
Please tell me your welding jig was an old, no longer used mill table. A thin layer of MIG nozzle gel will save or minimize cleaning up any welding oopsies on the mill table. Nice looking fab job...
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 6 күн бұрын
Yes it’s an old boring mill table
@georgedennison3338
@georgedennison3338 6 күн бұрын
@@VanoverCustoms Whew!! Had me stressin' for a minute, there... LOL
@jeremycable51
@jeremycable51 14 күн бұрын
I’ve been considering doing the same to my koping
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 14 күн бұрын
It’s a bunch of work but I am sure will be well worth it
@procyonia3654
@procyonia3654 14 күн бұрын
Hell yeh Are you going to get as in depth with that Lucas HBM you mentioned in that update vidya as you are with the Lion? Because this series has been amazing
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 14 күн бұрын
No lol. I wish. Maybe… but probably not this project is 2 years long maybe 2.5. I can’t have my hbm down for 3-4 years I need it to start paying for itself but you know me even cleaning it up will get some upgrades and fixes done just have to set a deadline so I can actually get it running in a reasonable time.
@procyonia3654
@procyonia3654 14 күн бұрын
@@VanoverCustoms alright that is pretty fair
@romanvarcolac2238
@romanvarcolac2238 14 күн бұрын
That is no normal roughing end mill. That is a wave-cut/crest-cut end mill. Somewhat rare these days, but really good. Nice to see one!
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 14 күн бұрын
Absolutely thanks for letting me know got it cheap looked cool
@romanvarcolac2238
@romanvarcolac2238 13 күн бұрын
@@VanoverCustomsTheir sinusoidal flute profile helps reduce cutting force but in theory should still leave a smooth finish. Weldon marketed/markets these as great for titanium and exotic alloys. Should also reduce chance for chatter considerably.
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 13 күн бұрын
@@romanvarcolac2238 great to know yeah I think it was Weldon or another w brand
@ypaulbrown
@ypaulbrown 14 күн бұрын
22:22 Darn Engineers are always making design changes after you already made the part..... Great Modification........D.E.S.S.A, [Darn Engineers Society Seal of Approval]
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 14 күн бұрын
Thank you very much
@ypaulbrown
@ypaulbrown 14 күн бұрын
16:45 that looks like a Skicut end mill, Putnam maybe ????
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 14 күн бұрын
Maybe bought it cheap on eBay
@DarioushAryan
@DarioushAryan 14 күн бұрын
bravoo
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 14 күн бұрын
Thanks
@dimitartenchev9338
@dimitartenchev9338 10 күн бұрын
Many lathes come with gearboxed tailstocks its nothing new or groundbreaking ?
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 10 күн бұрын
Your right. What is ground breaking is adding one to a tailstock that doesn’t have one. How many people you seen do that?
@josephkrug8579
@josephkrug8579 14 күн бұрын
I enjoyed the video and the machining, but even after watching the beginning several times, I still missed the reason why you want a 2 speed gearbox. Is it that sometimes it does not go the full distance fast enough, or you want to be able to go in slower sometimes for delicate drilling? Maybe it is me and just missing the explanation. Hopefully someone can enlighten me so the reason matches the fun video of machining. :)
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 14 күн бұрын
It just adds more capabilities. On most nicer machines they have two speed tailstocks especially on bigger machines. Fast speed helps bring quill in and out quick where as low speed reduces input torque required on handle for big drills
@billdoodson4232
@billdoodson4232 14 күн бұрын
@ 25:50, don't we all wish we could mill like that with a manual mill?
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 14 күн бұрын
Yeah lol
@ypaulbrown
@ypaulbrown 14 күн бұрын
31:31 is that a Suburban Tool fly cutter you are using ?
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 14 күн бұрын
Yes it is o highly recommend
@parnuzutech
@parnuzutech 13 күн бұрын
good job 👍
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 13 күн бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@Guds777
@Guds777 10 күн бұрын
My tailstock got 10 speed Allison automatic transmission... :D :D
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 10 күн бұрын
Very nice. That a good one
@SpookyMcGhee
@SpookyMcGhee 8 күн бұрын
Use coolant or oil on those big drills. You'll cook them in no time otherwise.
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 8 күн бұрын
Yes I am aware
@matthewheaton4421
@matthewheaton4421 9 күн бұрын
We have a lathe that has a built in box like this. I can push a 2” twist drill like nothing.
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 9 күн бұрын
Awesome looking forward to it
@Spoteddy
@Spoteddy Күн бұрын
0:18 is that massive straight edge or are you happy to see me?
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 18 сағат бұрын
Both
@yelims20
@yelims20 9 күн бұрын
nice. nothing new about a two speed tailstock, in my 33 years as a Tool and Die Maker, I've used two engine lathes that had this feature.
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 9 күн бұрын
Your right. What is new is adding it to a pre existing single speed unit
@yelims20
@yelims20 9 күн бұрын
@@VanoverCustoms the last one was a sharp brand and you had to get it just right to work properly. I like yours more... :)
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 9 күн бұрын
@@yelims20 thanks
@mudnducs
@mudnducs 11 күн бұрын
Why not Vee the plate before assembly/welding?
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 11 күн бұрын
You can do both. V after helps cut into old welds to ensure through penetration. I do both
@user-gg1ze3gt1g
@user-gg1ze3gt1g 14 күн бұрын
Are you no longer using any thrust bearing for the screw to case, as was originally designed? You do not want to have axial load on plain bearings…which is what it looks like you are using. Maybe you just haven’t showed us the full plan yet.
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 14 күн бұрын
Yeah both bearings thrust and radial
@notworthit1096
@notworthit1096 11 күн бұрын
Im all for it but is it really necessary?
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 11 күн бұрын
Is excellence ever necessary.
@user-xo5vw9gk3x
@user-xo5vw9gk3x 13 күн бұрын
All the lathes that I run have a 2 speed gear box from the factory
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 13 күн бұрын
Excellent. Many lathes have two speed gear boxes. the newer lions come with them as well so I really wanted to add one to mine to bring into the newer style.
@user-xo5vw9gk3x
@user-xo5vw9gk3x 12 күн бұрын
@@VanoverCustoms yeah it’s a handy feature to have when you need it…… but nice build looks good 👍🏻
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 12 күн бұрын
@@user-xo5vw9gk3x thanks
@user-vn6hi2bi3g
@user-vn6hi2bi3g 14 күн бұрын
I always buy new but if you had restored a piece of machinery/equipment I would change and not hesitate to buy used from you. Ray Stormont
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 14 күн бұрын
Really appreciate it ray it would be so expensive lol
@robertpeters9438
@robertpeters9438 13 күн бұрын
What is the purpose of such a tailstock gearing?
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 13 күн бұрын
High range for speed low for torque
@herrherr7529
@herrherr7529 9 күн бұрын
Our old lathe in the firm has a speedbox in it, so its not the world first xD
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 9 күн бұрын
A two speed tailstock is not worlds first adding one to none existing one is.
@DigvijayEngineers
@DigvijayEngineers 9 күн бұрын
WHY DO THEY APPLY BLUE INK OF THE SURFACE
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 8 күн бұрын
Help see scratch pass easier
@johnson2207
@johnson2207 12 күн бұрын
Isn't every video a dramatic recreation of past events?
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 12 күн бұрын
Yes
@johndebrular979
@johndebrular979 14 күн бұрын
You very rarely use and lube or coolant - WHY
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 14 күн бұрын
My lathes are not set up for coolant. This new lathe will be. I got brand new oil set up and k&t but it’s such a mess. Mostly it makes a mess and it’s makes it hard to see on video.
@georgecarenzo3890
@georgecarenzo3890 10 күн бұрын
Ok
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 10 күн бұрын
👍
@ryebis
@ryebis 14 күн бұрын
I like that you're building something useful and interesting, but I don't think this is worlds first :) There are engine lathes that ship with 2 or 3 speed tailstock gearbox, primarily to help with drilling operations.
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 13 күн бұрын
Worlds First implementation from single speed. Many lathes have two speed. Never seen anyone add one.
@jeffreyschmiedeck4254
@jeffreyschmiedeck4254 7 күн бұрын
You don’t wear rings in a machine shop! Even a novice knows this !
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 7 күн бұрын
Safety police!
@bussi7859
@bussi7859 7 күн бұрын
Too crappy to be usefully
@VanoverCustoms
@VanoverCustoms 7 күн бұрын
Your absolutely right
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