Kashtan did not protect moscova.

Correct on goalkeeper, the pilot felt the impacts of the rounds on his tow-line. When it was first tested, it was told to engage incoming targets...very bad day for a flock of seagulls...

Yep the drone is definitely Swiss cheese

About that story of the Goalkeeper, it is true, I was on that ship when it happened. Total panic, stopped right on time. It started eating the cable towards the Learjet. Normally the jet flies over and the Goalkeeper has a safety sector on one side of the ship. This sector was somehow wiped in the CMS and therefor it kept going from port to starboard side. I have to say, the goalkeeper is an awesome system, especially with the new upgrade, while it is so old already! developed in the 80's. I would not say the Phalanx is reliable, I'v seen many problems with it. Goalkeeper too, but that's just lack of money for proper repairs and maintenance. Phalanx jams, Goalkeeper nearly never. Funny story, when Hollands Signaal developed the Goalkeeper and tested it in the Pacific, the Americans were really impressed but couldn't express that because it wasn't an American system. So, they created their own copy: the Phalanx. Hollands Signaal, now known as Thales, is an amazing developer of weapons and sensors. Also, the Chinese have made an upgraded copy of the Goalkeper with better stats and a more reliable performance (or so they say) but I haven't seen one in action yet. I have to say that these type of systems run towards an end with the current weapon developments. There are mach 6 missiles, no gatling gun CIWS can handle that. I think the future is in RAM systems. The main problem with those are reloading. The Russians thought of that with the auto reload system. Only problem is, you usually shoot at least 2 missiles per incoming threat. So you can counter 4 incoming missiles. As attacker, you would want to saturate your targets' defenses by firing everything at once. Reloading takes too much time. Firing 5 missiles at your target would make them rely on their gatling gun. 8 missiles on their fire drills or even worse, their rafts. I think the German RAM system is the best CIWS when it comes to capability and reliability (that I know of). It increases the ships' defense saturation so much. While an SM2 or ESSM defense is restricted to tracking and uplink capability of the firing platform (like in the movie Battleship, an Arleigh Burke firing more missiles then there phased array can handle... so fake).

Peter Jørgensen that’s quite the story! And I applaud you for serving your country

Thank you for your service. I love your Frigates.

dude thats true!

Rifleman with twin Kashtans . . . one on each arm.

It exists with tracks. It's called the Tunguska.

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Someday they build something which shoots only English language person And how they do that i don't know 😂

DAH! then after a few seconds...In russian: "is there a 3rd thing we can add that we haven't thought of?"

@@warchitect73 Haha God... I just pictured a Monty Python skit with Michael Palin, Terry Jones (RIP) and John Cleese doing that!

Lol

Well that explains why so many of them are missing limbs...

Kashtan: *Reloads missiles*

Maverick Raphael H. Sebastian it will over kill you so much you will be reincarnated as an abortion.

Maverick Raphael H. Sebastian that Will be perfect for home defence

Want one for home defense

"Overkill? What's that? Can I eat it?" asked the hungry Soviet engineer.

What about decoy? there cheaper to run then missiles and guns and work just as good,, Like the Aussie the Nulka ...

Looks like a freaking action film holy

I totally agree.

That thing look like the minigun turret which defend skynet bases in terminator

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just imagine 200 huuuge 30mm rounds thrown in a second. such a beast.

It is straight forward ass kicking everything in the air even ufos lmao

what exactly are you defending your home agaist low flying aircraft or do you just want to menace flocks of birds

No.. its against the police, when they come to arest me for hate speech when a post a offensive meme

again unless there coming in choppers fighter aircraft or using air to surface missiles such systems would be of limited use would they not?

Actually the can target vehicles as well.. And the advantage with something like Goad Keeper is that it can take out a tank. I would think.. If they come and asking to arrest me. Put a few 100 30mm bullets in there car (or tank, or what ever they have).. then they will have something to think of on there long walk back to town.

matsv201 i think a 40mm mg should be sufficent

It looks like the goddamn final boss

This is not Kashtan-M, but the sound is the same: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pLmRl9pk0p3Dd3k.html

Kashtan seems like a converted/transferred weapons platform from the BMPT Terminator (1).

GoldHound Entertainment why?

Because it actually works, but as an American, he doesn't want to admit that Russia has better toys.

ona can never be too careful huh? t. Russian.

Well, that and if the Russians ever went to war with the USA, it's the attack subs that are going to be putting that carrier on the sea floor.

there is no overkill, there is only open fire and reload.

American Rockets coordinated from germany ;)

Soo true

lol

I want that in a damned computer game :) - forget the AC-130 Gunship, give me a damned Kashtan to play with :)

Yeah, but only if you are at the joy-stick! Don't be a baby!

Amen to that!

@troll oracle Maybe, but basis is perfect so any upgrade is more or less easy. Take, for example, AK-47. Very, very reliable weapon but with pretty bad sights. So, put on AK-47 good sights and you got almost perfect weapon. On the other hand, you can put on M-16 whatever you want it will be still very unreliable weapon.

I believe he’s judging it by sheer firepower/output More so than reliability and all the fine details that go into such weaponry That’s what I caught on the further into the video I got.

troll oracle the M16 is almost long out of use. The current M4 Rifle is much more reliable and great accuracy. The AK-47 is really only used by militias. Honestly, I just believe overall that the Americans and Europe have better infantry equipment than Russia. Better Rifles, ATGM’s, SAW’s, etc.

troll oracle I would like to second that.

Exactly

Now I question why the USN hasn't started mounting those massive death turrets.

@@RG-fc7ht Actually, i think Goalkeepers are quite a bit more compact than the Phalanx systems: There a Goalkeeper front and 2 back on HNLMS Karel Doorman (L=205 meters): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HNLMS_Karel_Doorman_(A833)#/media/File:HNLMS_Karel_Doorman,_Starboard_Bow,_04.09.2017.jpg compared to USS Carter Hall (L=190 meters): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Carter_Hall_(LSD-50)#/media/File:US_Navy_071007-N-4014G-055_Dock_landing_ship_USS_Carter_Hall_(LSD_50)_approaches_Military_Sealift_Command_fleet_replenishment_oiler_USNS_Tippecanoe_(T-AO_199)_for_an_underway_replenishment.jpg

@@Tuning3434 Gk's require relatively large additional rooms for ammo and local control underneath the turret. Not sure about the Phalanx but I thought it required much less.

Ja het is mooi spul

They also experienced the same situation, when kashtan engaged its own countermeasure missiles. Not its own AA missiles but the AShm ones.

TallahassZ Remington it's a shame we can't afford to buy that many

You got one a best jobs in the world, I give you that.

What does IDF stand for here?

@@dafrandle Israel Defense Force maybe? Not sure.

@@dafrandle indirect fire

@@dafrandle blows mortar, howitzer, and artillery missiles out of the air

Dwwolf from DPM >> The new guided rounds from OTO Melara are something wicked.

Goalkeeper does not need to be plugged in.

@@DreadX10 Yeah, that sounds a bit farfetched. Maybe he meant that it was forced off, instead of on semi-automatic (where it will ask for confirmation to fire once it has detected a threat), or fully-automatic (where it doesn't need any human input whatsoever, and will automatically kill any threats it detects).

it will spook the rockets away just by beeing there @@DreadX10

I think the older systems like the Ak 630 could be vehicle mounted or Armoured, maybe T62 chassis and used for Counter Artillery and Mortar System for base defenses. Do not waste good!!

That Person Yes, because of advances in radar signal processing CIWS is moving onto ground units. The US Army is field testing truck mounted Phalanx systems to shield ground forces. They plan to use proximity-fused explosive rounds because solid core rounds (like bullets) continue to obey gravity when they miss. Not much of a problem when the only thing they can do is crash into the ocean.

the gaerman use the 45mm ciws as AA gun.wich is called Mantis

Yes something like the dual Ak630 pumps out an enormous amoung of lead. Would work very well with the same submunition round from skyshield. Also pretty intimidating as an anti-swarm weapon. Although all but the 25mm phallanx here would work against small boats pretty well.

your country has have one right now 2018 installed on all your newest destroyer lol

Elijah Stewart because brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt.

U wot m8? They literally have a mini battleship to defend their ships, its not bias because im suprised at the firepower

Elijah Stewart just imagine this shit on a speedboat lmao

many of the smaller ships have these weapons too...the Tarantul carries 1 Kashtan and 2 ak 630 and is designed to destroy ships. and its only 56 meters long

And the Kuznetsov has 8 Kashtans and 6 AK-630's. I think they are serious... How do you say "You shall not pass!" in Russian? o.o

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im also watching you

Professional Gopnik you should be listening to hardbass and Boris.

Matty Macleod hahahah! Good luck with that lol

Matsimus Gaming Cheers mate, you’re the best KZfaqr!

Matty Macleod I’m clearly not haha but thank you for your kind words

+Matsimus Gaming. Your defiantly up there. I give you a shout out at any opportunity.

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actually Pantisir S1 is further development of Tunguska..

Not really. The Pantsir uses the 2A38M, a twin barrel 30mm auto-cannon with between 3,900 and 5,000 rpm. Imagine someone puts the Kashtan on a truck. That would be sick!

@@dmitrit.4862 the Middle East would put this kashtan on truck, but it will be Toyota trucks... xD

@@indahf.freztiyana824 It would flip the Toyota truck over in no time. LMAO but I'd love to see it. :D

The shipborne version is the Pantsir-M: the two 6-barrelled 30mm guns now packing eight of the Pantsir-S1's 57E6-series missile, and a newer fire control radar and electro-optical sensor suite.

Skyer 8 Kashtans and 6 AK-630's on the Kusnetsov, that's 22 in my count. 😁

EIGHT Kashtans??? American ships only have one (Burke) to four (Nimitz) single barrel ciws mounts... Talk about russians and overkill...

Not Overkill, If the enemy wants to fire 20 Harpoons at it has to defend itself :D, Also US doctrine is a lot more on offensive, and they know that they are not going to be attacked anyways so they dont really care about defense

US carriers has multi layered defence, starting with fighters and E-2's, Aegis, Sea Sparrow, Phalanx at the end. (And younger systems as well.) The Russian (Soviet) doctrine is of a saturation attack, with 24-100 supersonic cruise missiles per carrier group. Around 30% against the carrier, the rest opens the way through Aegis, CIWS, whatnot. And only one missile has to reach the carrier, and it's game over, even with conventional warheads. :) Obviously, the Russians well prepared themselves against such an attack. And I'm perfectly okay with not knowing who would win.

Not overkill for Russians. Consider they only have one aircraft carrier. In the case of a real naval battle, their fleet is likely to be fired on by many waves of fighter jets long before they can fire their own anti-ship missiles. They had to survive all the incoming missiles... more like waves after waves.

@PARTHA SARATHI it failed also in the first gulf war.

dude, most likely german Mercedes would break than the shittiest any Russian / Soviet made military tech. There is nothing more reliable in this world.

@@indigobaloon8091 but s400 always failed.

@@centralintelligenceagency2919 when, where?

@@centralintelligenceagency2919 Your parents failed. S-400 is considered throughout the World as extremly capable AA system. Even NATO military experts often admits it (and that's very uncommon practice to admit opponents superiority in any field).

I have seen the video of the US Army testing a SEAWIZ loaded onto a tractor-trailer for FOB defense.

Yeah and there were/are plans to put that thing on a Chassis (e.g. the Boxer i41.tinypic.com/24mrehx.jpg ) which can then operate alone or be integrated into the Skyshield/Mantis System (the later beeing the German Army Version) but i think Germany will only purchase the stationary Version i41.tinypic.com/24mrehx.jpg

@@EASY7356 which is a shame since we got rid of the Gepard

@@vnyggi621 Yep, apparently the bundeswehr thinks we don't need spaa.

@@EASY7356 maybe its not useful enough for the cost

Its all Dutch tech actually just an American gun

That Person no one asked

Alternative Account No Fucking Shit Sherlock

That Person what?

Are equipped??..hahaha so far Martadinata class light frigate just fitted with Oto Melara gun..it's FFBNW concept

its going to be equipped with Millennium Gun, right now its still waiting for the weapons to be delivered

pigdog67 from DPM >> That is a nickname I have heard.

HAVANA SCP haha!! It’s badass in my eyes

Matsimus it sure is. We should had done the same. Mixing everything like the Russians did. Specially since we have way more ships. But I’m sure they will. Is a copy copy world out there 😝

Skyer just like every other system

The Japanese navy accidentally shot down a American AE-6 in 1996 with a phalanx system. They are death to any aircraft within range, think about it, what's easier to hit, a jet or a missile ? The only hope for a jet is ECM and flares/chaff.

The main cannons of ships can shoot 3 times further though.

@casbott ECM at the ranges CIWSes operate at would be pretty useless - basically any radar at that range can burn though jamming.

76/62 david/strales, is very best in the world

Every gun based C-RAM uses shrapnel, they can't hit the thread directly. The Millenium gun is the largest caliber RAM (35mm while the US uses 20mm), according to rheinmetall it "Counters aerial threats including incoming surface-to-surface guided missiles at ranges three or four times greater than conventional close-in weapon systems". It's the larger round itself, the better accuracy (no gatling gun but only rotating breach), and the heavier airburst payload that enables higher range and lethality.

They both use offensive maneuvers like "S" maneuver or just jump up and down, and against Zircon guns have less then a second to act on it before it hits the boat

No, not every CIWS. The Phalanx CIWS for instance uses armor-piercing rounds, probably out of tungsten or depleted uranium, but definetly not shrapnel munition. And yes they can hit the target directly because they fire a lot of rounds at the target, some of them will hit. Again, I think the Millenium gun is weaker against more armored targets. Edit: I guess it doesn't matter because an more armored aircraft will be shot down with missiles before it come in range of the CIWS and if a Zircon missile (or many of them at once) you are fucked anyway, no matter if you use a high rate of fire gatling gun with armor piercing rounds or the millenium gun with shrapnel munition.

Sorry, i compared the C-RAM version of Phalanx wich uses HEIT-SD. The Millenium gun combines the fields of CIWS and C-RAM respectively, it's official designation is literally "CIWS C-RAM". For 'armored' targets, it depends on the type. The Millenium engages at a much longer range, filling the sky in front of the thread with a tungsten subammo dust. The Phalanx will do the same, just with much fewer but larger projectiles. 35mm AHEAD was tested sucessfully against armored helicopters by the dutch army in a IFV at only 200rpm. A missile flying at high speed through that tungsten dust will get totally obliterated.

Alright, fair enough :)

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Malcolm Braid Russians make good equipment. In reality they aren’t one step ahead of America. If you knew the secret technology we are hiding. We have military technology that would blow your mind, and that’s not even the top secret weapons😂. Russia is more open about revealing their weapons while America is much more secretive. Just compare America’s defense budget to Russia’s😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. Like a few weeks ago Russia was testing an illegal missile and it blew up the laboratory and all the scientist😂. Serves them right

eddie money Quit being a salty fuck. I never said other country’s don’t have secret weapons, it’s just that none compete with America’s. Oh yeah Russia has amazing technology, that’s why they blew up a nuclear lab killing many scientist😂😂😂😂. You can believe what you want, but the truth is no country has the hidden tech we do. Now you can believe what you want. The last thing Russia would want is a war with us, they know that would be stupid.

I completely agree about bullets staying, however a mach 2-3 missile is still more than capable of taking out a mach 5 or more missile - short-range defensive missiles can afford to be smaller, lighter and more maneuverable, and an extremely high-speed missile would have a very hard time maneuvering to get out of the way. The primary reason for making extremely fast missiles, in case you're not aware, is to get from the radar horizon when the target ship can first see them, to the ship in as little time as possible, to try and overwhelm the defenses.

Shooting 3 ton missile at 6 mach with all its inertia wouldnt do much, considering radar horizon of ships being at 20km it would have less then 10 second to react on 6 mach missile at 1-2m above sea , and they always go on swarms of 4 and more (from russian side)

At mach 6, the atmospheric drag at sea-level is absolutely insane with a highly-streamlined missile with a small AOA. If any part of it breaks, it will very quickly be torn apart by drag, and will slow down and fall into the water without being able to use it's control surfaces. I can't seem to find it, but there's a great video from one of the many failures during the initial development of the R-7 ICBM in 1957. The ICBM starts to rotate slightly to one side, then is suddenly torn apart.

And if you were thinking of RAM, they have less then 2 seconds in their range (9km) to engage and hit missile before it hits the ship that is too close for any1s comfort i think :)

I'm primarily familiar with Soviet- and Russian-made missiles, not American ones (outside of what I saw on kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ipd6l8Zo3teWmJc.html), or their reaction times. Certainly a mach 6 missile is extremely dangerous due to the short closing times, and as you say it's far too close for comfort. Tracking and engage a salvo of hypersonic missiles before your targeting systems get hit (particularly if this missile had an anti-radiation seeker) is a very difficult technical challenge - I was commenting that if you are able to get a number of maneuverable missile out of it's launcher and provide it with proper tracking, and certainly if you get a hit, that it will stop the incoming missile.

Mi_69_ck 01 from DPM >> NULKA is pretty cool. Most ASCM seekers are designed to select as a valid target only those targets of a given height . Too high and it performs a reattack. NULKA addresses that off board countermeasure need.

Moog has the best servo valves in existence. Rexroth 2nd. Then either Parker or Eaton. I don't know where Eaton Aerospace Servo's are made but perhaps in Europe. Moog Aero products are made in the USofA. However, I am sure that your companion will tell you that Parker had a better price than both Moog & Rexroth.

@@kevinh3979 Moog is UK owned and made in the England not the US.

Moog is not UK owned. It is an American company. Moog has its HQ in Buffalo area in New York. They do have offices and facilities in the UK. Also in alot of countries like Germany and Italy, etc. Depending on the valve series, Moog is made in either USA or Germany. Mostly the USA. Not England.

@@kevinh3979 I stand corrected it is a US company however, most of the designe and manufacture is now in the UK. Its manufacture was licenced to Dowty aerospace In 1958. I deal with Moog on a daily basis and can assure you they are built in the UK.

@Rafael What exactly were they consulting with you about? Servos, while still being used on most naval ship, are old technology and are being replaced by digital encoders and motors. Why worry about a product that is going to be replaced anyway? Furthermore, you state that the people at the state department are "scum" because they did not want to outsource a vital military component to a foreign power. If that makes them scum in your mind you are not very military minded and thus was a poor choice to hire you as a consultant. In fairness though, you presented a outside opinion that is very much needed in military purchasing lest we wind up with $10,000 toilet seats.

Marjan Novoselc sea wolf is in the process of being replaced by a new system sea ceptor, currently only two ships have sea ceptor, and yes it has successfully been used to shoot down artillery shells but so has phalanx CWIS and others on this list.

I know that the other system can do it as well. I just assumed that the system was being upgraded throuout the years, that it would score higher on such a list. As far as I am aware, the system managed to shoot down artillery shels durring the Falklands war, and durring initial trials, when this kind of accuracy was not really yet common amongs missile system. I assumed that, if it was such an accurate system back then, it would be more potent with modern upgrades. Guess I was wrong. Thanx for the info thow. Cheers.

Marjan Novoselc sea wolf has been upgraded over the years and the current version is much better than the Falkland version, it has gone from arm launched to vertical launch allowing for quicker firing, and can guid upto 10 at a time. Sea ceptor is just another upgrade really but just a big jump and is now too far from the original sea wolf to still be called it.

Ok. Thanks. That was really great info. I apriciate it. Well, I hope it serves the RN well and I hope they won't ever need to use it, unlike the seawolf.

Just admit...it jammed like everything made in the USA. That is why Americans buy Japanese cars and Russian guns far more than loca made stuff

Operator error. It has to be turned on, active, and allowed to fire. Which wasn’t the case with Stark

I was wondering the same thing. once-fired, this dumb projectile from a 16" cannon doesn't rely on a guidance system.

@@thaboomer53 too bad that before the "dumb projectile" won't get ever shot since the ship would be taken down by a swarm of missiles from well.beyond it's range

the shells are too slow, easy targets.

@@Laenthal um, no shell are faster then missle

@@wonkagaming8750 that's what i implied.

swansealoaf1999 I agree

Yes the early Sea wolf was good but not for the ranges it was used, mainly designed for high up bombers, but at least we have learnt now, with sea viper and ceptor with phalanx and goal keeper mixed in.

Actually part of the problem for HMS Sheffield was that there were two frigates rapidly manoevering and the rear one (HMS Sheffield) was targeted as a result the HMS Sheffield radar system was for a short but critical time period ineffective. As a result HMS Sheffield could not get a lock to destroy the attacking aircraft or missile. There is a video about this and more recently the MOD has released information under the 35 year rule. There were other issues as well and there seems to have been a considerable cover-up. www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/oct/15/revealed-full-story-behind-sinking-of-falklands-warship-hms-sheffield. That said some of the officers with way more experience elsewhere have stated that the real problem was that the other frigate crossed in front of HMS Sheffield at precisely the wrong moment and nobody could have predicted that HMS Sheffield was going to be attacked from that direction at precisely that time.

You mean HMS Coventry. Sheffield was hit by an Exocet earlier in the conflict due to a series of errors that added up to catastrophe

Its because of the falklands modern CWIS systems came into being. It pretty much set the basis for modern CWIS doctrine. In theory there were some decent systems like Sea Wolf and Sea Cat. But this was the first conflict where they had been used with real world situations and opponents on any notable scale. As such; it was not having them then which meant today every man and his dog wants one.