Who Was Jack Skellington BEFORE He Died?: Disney Theory
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In the Nightmare Before Christmas, all of the monsters come together to celebrate Halloween. Leading these monsters of course is the scariest among them: the Pumpkin King Jack Skellington. Jack is an animated skeleton who has certain abilities which he explains is dead. The most horrifying creature in Halloween Town at some point was alive. At some point Jack Skellington was a human being living outside of Halloween Town, and today we are going to try to figure who he was.
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@cliffordollis5878 4 жыл бұрын
Jack’s backstory is in James and the Giant Peach. He was a pirate captain (great leader and fighter like you said) back in the 1600s who loved to scare people. Jack said “to have died in Kentucky I’m Mr. unlucky and I’m known throughout England and France.” He sailed throughout Europe looting ships abs eventually got lost in Antartica where his ship sunk and his whole crew died. Antarctica like Kentucky is basically in the middle of nowhere (no offense to anyone). Jack’s crew kicked him out after the battle with Mr. Centipede and he decided to become a good guy. He learned how to make the magic green things that grew the Giant Peach and brought him back from the dead. He used them to bring other dead people back including the Mayor and Dr. Finkelstien. If you think about it, Jack highjacked another holiday much like pirates would highjack other ships.
@Jason49110 7 ай бұрын
has this been confirmed?
@cliffordollis5878 4 жыл бұрын
Also, Mr. Centipede calls the pirate captain a “skelington” which is Jack’s last name. He then says “jackpot” as he tries to leave with the compass. The skeleton captain makes the same exact scary face Jack does at the townmeeting.
@kyripiro224 2 жыл бұрын
Yes that's a Jack Skellington cameo but I personally think that if there's any lore with the Jack cameo, then Jack was either convinced to cameo in the movie or that was one of his scares lol
@undeadneko20gaming25 2 жыл бұрын
If we’re talking about the James and the giant peach that’s not a Tim Burton film
@ElizabethMarin2551 Жыл бұрын
Yep o saw it the exact same one. Besides what other movie has a skeleton who looks exactly like Jack
@Anonymous30174 Жыл бұрын
It was a cameo appearance so no he could have been burned at the stake because of his clothes that makes more sense.
@morgantarot3351 2 жыл бұрын
I never considered that Jack was alive before becoming a part of Halloween town. I thought he just came into existance there. The reason I always thought that is because the characters of Halloween town have no concept of love or happiness. They only know how to scare people which makes it seem like they were all born there and that's all they know. The reason why the ending is so sweet is because despite them all living in a loveless world, Jack and Sally finally realise what they were missing and that is love.
@megalisa830bright6 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah! Exactly! I like to think that Halloween Town is where the creatures all originated from, and Halloween is all that they know about! ^_^ I think that's why Jack never knew about the other holidays, because they would all stay in their own separate Towns! :D
@bernardwalker3060 2 жыл бұрын
Hello
@chrissyb.4816 3 жыл бұрын
He COULD be from the legend of Sleepy Hollow, but not the headless horseman! I think he is... Ichabod Crane...look he's tall lanky, the REAL life Ichabod was an actual solider in a war and it looks like Jack is dressed in soldier attire in one scene. The theory of him being burned could be true, if you watch or have read the legend of sleepy hollow, a flaming pumpkin head is thrown at Ichabod, where it hits him...and then he is never seen or heard of again. Maybe that's what the whole first scene of him being a pumpkin/scarecrow being lit on fire could be in correlation too, which is him being burned by the pumpkin head. Maybe a pumpkin in flames could have killed him, that’s where his "Pumpkin King" name came from. There is also a scene where Jack sings “Well since I am dead I can take off my head, to recite Shakespearean quotations” him being able to dislodge his head, could be a nod to the headless horseman possibly cutting it off after killing him? It makes sense kind of lol idk, just my theory.
@wysteriaz 3 жыл бұрын
Very amazed. Hmm.
@quinn._.2046 3 жыл бұрын
yea that is aalso reasonable
@bethclapton3647 3 жыл бұрын
That is a rly good theory thanks
@AmySorrellMusic 3 жыл бұрын
I paused the video to really read your comment. I am intrigued. I think you're on to something. Ooh! Fun! Happy Halloween! 🎃
@Burning_Dwarf 3 жыл бұрын
Better theory than the one in the video
@socialgutbrain7774 6 жыл бұрын
My headcanon is that Jack and The Headless Horseman are not the same people. I believe that The Horseman was the former king of Halloween, and Jack was his apprentice at the time. The Horseman gave Jack a bunch of war trivia and knowledge that Jack used later on in his life as the king.
@Sanbrio 6 жыл бұрын
Oakley Koelzer I like your take on the theory, but where is the head less horsemen now?
@gachabriisawolf9308 5 жыл бұрын
Well, maybe he wasnt the headless horseman. But a soldier in the American Revolution, got shot and he maybe died in fear, thus, he wants to scare others so the other people can feel the same way he did. It makes sense to.
@kyoto3695 5 жыл бұрын
That's stupid
@ilikestuff5188 5 жыл бұрын
Though I do respect your theory it doesn't really make sense I mean in the begging of movie when Jack came out of the well we can see that before there was a pumpkin head burning while dancing which can explain how he died (burned alive) also when he sings his solo (Jack's Lament) he says, "I'll scare you out of your pants" and he was known throughout England and France which can mean he could have been some sort of person that would scare people (I don't know the name of what that would be called back then) but that's what I think.
@Electricity_artz 2 жыл бұрын
My theory : In the song jack sings in the beginning where he says “ to a man in Kentucky I’m mr unlucky “ which probably meant he was a man who lived in Kentucky and he had a run in with bad luck . And since he never heard of Christmas , like in this video , he was to have lived in the late 1800s , and his attire , which is a suit with what looks like a bow tie , he was maybe going to a formal event , and since he is a skeleton he may have drove there since cars were introduced in the later 1800s and somehow got into a crash , the car may have over heated or caused both to happen , which he probably set him on fire and burned him alive , and he is freakishly tall , so he may have been in a car that he could be able to fit in , which would need a certain amount of fuel , leading to him being soaked and then caught aflame , leading to his skin being burned away , eventually leading to his death, probably due to his wounds getting infected . I’m probably totally wrong , that’s just my theory .
@bellaparkes1749 3 жыл бұрын
I think this connection to the Headless Horseman is interesting considering Tim Burton also directed Sleep Hollow which is shaped around this story too and also further connecting Tim's films together.
@trinitylove-terlecki7969 6 жыл бұрын
It would make sense if he was in the war bc he “knocked the bravest of thier feet” the people who fought in the war must have been brave idk if this makes sense but im a huge fan of tim burton
@annabortion1539 6 жыл бұрын
Trinity Love-Terlecki Mah Twin :3
@hatsunemiku1637 4 жыл бұрын
Jack died from being burned alive. When someone is Burt alive their skellington are the only thing that is left. Their is proof In the opening song, Jack sets himself on fire then jumps in the water, and turns into Jack the skellington.
@BunniRabbi 3 жыл бұрын
Skeleton, not Skellington. Jack is a skeleton. His name is Jack Skellington. Skellington is a surname (as in 'of the town of Skelling'). They chose his last name because it sounds like skeleton.
@-arymause-2809 3 жыл бұрын
@@BunniRabbi I’m pretty sure they were tryna make a pun
@thegreeter7027 3 жыл бұрын
@@BunniRabbi there was also a theory that Jack was Jack The Ripper
@BunniRabbi 3 жыл бұрын
@@thegreeter7027 Interesting. How did that go?
@dancingdilophosaurus651 2 жыл бұрын
Jack was the grinch. The dog, the fondness for Christmas, it all adds up
@greenhowie 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my god he killed every single one of them
@charity9660 2 жыл бұрын
@@greenhowie lmfaoooo
@jawthetransformer1093 2 жыл бұрын
Another thing to kinda support the theory is when jack is being carried out in the opening scenes of nightmare before Christmas, he’s on a horse with a pumpkin for a head. Another thing is during this scene he swallows the fire, lighting himself on fire, to which the headless horseman has a pumpkin light on fire,
@ericowen5305 4 жыл бұрын
I love this theory! Though I always believed that Jack was something like a miscarriage, dead since birth. All he knows is Halloween and that's why Christmas is so strange to him
@acidicleaf4007 2 жыл бұрын
That is a great theory!
@eiraedogawa3598 4 жыл бұрын
Jack is the "leader" of Halloween, just like Santa Claus is the "leader" of Christmas.
@dragonwolf_fang837 3 жыл бұрын
Krampus (jk) orrr...
@Isabelle-Cassels 3 жыл бұрын
Jesus is the "leader" of Christmas. But I do get what your saying.
@miriamambriz-mendez4138 2 жыл бұрын
@@Isabelle-Cassels Christmas is a pagan holiday
@megalisa830bright6 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah! Exactly! Jack Skellington is the leader of Halloween Town, just like Santa Claus is the leader of Christmas Town! ^_^
@nicholasanderson3220 2 жыл бұрын
@@miriamambriz-mendez4138 unmmmm no....the holiday that the Romans celibated was... Christmas it's self has always been to celebrate the birth of Jesus......pls read up on history before commenting otherwise it just makes you look foolish
@AtmonTheExectioner 3 жыл бұрын
Jack likes to scare people not kill them. And as he makes no mention of ever losing his head for an extended period I find your theory very unbelievable. They don't even have the same body types. Could it be that Jack is just quite simply Jack. Burton himself has already disclosed that "Every story has a beginning, middle and an end. But no one says you have to write them in that order.". This references Frankenweenie and Corpse Bride as being part of The Nightmare Before Christmas.
@aspiringjoker2883 3 жыл бұрын
Tim Burton has his own adaptation of "The Legend of Sleepy Hollow." I guess this checks out for the larger Burtonverse.
@lorilosey6920 3 жыл бұрын
I dont think it matters who Jack was when he was alive, because I love jack for who he is now..the king of Halloween.
@makenziwheeler2565 6 жыл бұрын
Not a theory about Jack.. But about zero. Okay.... Zero was actually Sparky from Frankenweenie before he died. Then he was Scraps from corpse bride. Then of course he becomes Zero. Now my theory about Jack is that all of the dog owners from all those movies are the same person!!!! In Frankenweenie that was him as a little boy. Then he becomes Victor in corpse bride. And then Jack. I understand they all have different names but that is because once Victor got older he moved away from his friends an wanted to start over... So he changed his name to Victor. When he died he went to Halloween Town and he didn't want anyone to recognize/remember him.
@Xolito505 6 жыл бұрын
Kenzi Hex. Seems fitting
@Xolito505 6 жыл бұрын
Kenzi Hex I had this exact theory bro
@makenziwheeler2565 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah it makes sense
@renbiscotti1514 6 жыл бұрын
But isn't frankenweenie more present then the corpse bride? He couldn't have gone back in time to grow up
@diobrando7957 6 жыл бұрын
that theory was debunked
@CarlyCatharsis 2 жыл бұрын
BRILLIANT: HE DOES Have The Bone Structure & Height Of Ichabod Crane & Burton DID Make His OWN Version Of "SleepyHollow" Which SHOWS That He Obviously DID Have An Affinity For The Irving Story! In-Fact; You See Jack Constantly Studying/Reading Books & Even TEACHING The Residents About The Customs Of The Seasons!
@GVK606 3 жыл бұрын
"And since I am dead, I can take off my head, to recite Shakespirian quotation, no animal or man, can SCREAM as i can, with the fury of my re-ci-tations."💀💀💀💀
@wonka84 2 жыл бұрын
"But who here would ever understand that the pumpkin king, with his skeleton grin would tire of his crown, if they ever understood....he'd give it all up, if he only could?"
@amberlaughlin3518 2 жыл бұрын
@@wonka84 even he doesn't want to be who he is. I can relate.
@verenaamaris804 2 жыл бұрын
@@amberlaughlin3518 right there with ya.
@megalisa830bright6 2 жыл бұрын
lol! Yeah! I love that verse of 'Jack's Lament'! ^_^
@GVK606 2 жыл бұрын
@@frankgrimes7388 auto correct is a problem
@myfallengrace1958 6 жыл бұрын
Omg Wotso! I cannot believe you did my favorite Halloween Town Character! I waited for this! Thank you!
@IsaacCarlson 6 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I could bring this to you then!! Thanks for watching!
@emily_m7001 6 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU for finding a new explanation for Jack. I hate (strong work, but really) the theory that Jack is Victor. Also that the kid from Frankenweenie became Victor and became Jack. It's wildly accepted with almost no facts and I don't know, I just really really hate it.
@MaryC861 6 жыл бұрын
I so glad to find someone else who doesn't buy that theory. Not only are all the time periods mixed up, the dogs are all different and even the personalty of each character doesn't match up ether. I don't even see how people think Burton himself confirmed it when (as you said) there's no proof.
@IsaacCarlson 6 жыл бұрын
I'm happy I could provide an alternative! Thanks for watching!
@zaggora7316 6 жыл бұрын
Tim Burton lost a dog when he was younger so that’s why there always a dead dog in his animated films... Probably why people thought they were all the same person.
@VorpalSpider69 6 жыл бұрын
BerrySparrowpaw their only connection is that they all had dogs, and the influence for that was Tim Burton having a dog when he was a kid.
@kcrb0202 6 жыл бұрын
I hate that theory because the are all set in different points in time. It's like people don't realize that. I think it's more likely that Jack is related to Victor somehow.
@korinakorinakorina 6 жыл бұрын
These theories are a little too far fetched. I like a good theory when there are convincing connections, but I just don't see this.
@technomanuel 4 жыл бұрын
Isaac: Jack Skellington is the scariest creature ever! | Slenderman: *Hold my children blood.*
@chadmarcum7194 3 жыл бұрын
Jack was more a thinker, jeepers creepers: hold these eyes
@nikkinoivern4392 6 жыл бұрын
also at the start of nbc, when he swallowed fire, he was riding a hay horse, and had a pumpkin head, like the headless man on the horse uses pumpkins
@waterwaifu612 6 жыл бұрын
nikkinoivern you mean the headless horseman
@fmwhornsey 6 жыл бұрын
also, the way most people think jack died was he died by being burned alive so his skin came of and he became a skelleton and also when he swallows fire he acts wat happene wen he died only im pretty sure wen he actually died he wouldn't just swallow fire because who would? ;-;
@lllwing0 6 жыл бұрын
There is a major problem with this. The headless horsemen takes place in sleepy hollow a town near tarrytown new york. The revolutionary war ended in 1783 and kentucky wasn't a state till 1792 almost a decade later. He couldn't have known about kentucky if he was the headless horseman because it wasn't made yet.
@KatTheInfamous 6 жыл бұрын
lllwing0 I don’t remember him saying he was from Kentucky. He says “and to a guy in Kentucky I’m mister unlucky.” Nothing in that says he is from there.
@lllwing0 6 жыл бұрын
Kat Mitchell I just double checked the lyrics and you are correct it says guy not died, that is my mistake. It still brings up the problem regarding the knowledge of Kentucky being a state or place if he died almost 10 years prior to the forming of the state.
@KatTheInfamous 6 жыл бұрын
"I'm a master of fright, and a demon of light And I'll scare you right out of your pants To a guy in Kentucky, I'm Mister Unlucky And I'm known throughout England and France" I think this is just his example of know of his talents. they could be old and new. since every year he goes to our realm to scare on the night of Halloween. Just cause he mentions it doesn't mean that he was alive at that time. a matter a fact i read this as he is already dead and probably has been dead for some time.
@LoserBug420 6 жыл бұрын
He remade sleepy Halloween. And Johnny plays Crane
@billyrollins8091 6 жыл бұрын
lllwing0 the song didn't say he died in Kentucky, is said to a guy in Kentucky
@paulpritchard1980 6 жыл бұрын
I think his real identity is stingy Jack. A man that like to play tricks on people and was far too stingy to help anyone but himself. He was clever though he managed to trick Satan more than once. When he finally died he was such a wicked man that heaven didn't let him in. So he went to hell and when Satan saw who it was he was so ashamed of being tricked he didn't let him in either. He did give Jack one thing a coal of hellfire which burns bright and never goes out. Jack hollowed out a turnips and put the coal into it and that's Jack's lantern. forced to travel between worlds I guess he settled in Halloween town that explains why he can't stay dead. In Ireland they used hollow out turnips and put candles in them I'm sure Satan told the other demons not to bother anyone with a burning turnip on the doorstep. naturally everyone does it who wants to be bothered by demons. And when Irish immigrants moved to America pumpkins were far easier than turnips to carve. Jack's lantern jack-o'-lantern. Maybe the o was to remind people of its Irish heritage O'Brien O'Malley O'Hickey who knows what Jack's last name really was.
@oddeyes9413 6 жыл бұрын
That is a possibility. I'm surprised you know that story, not many do.
@drawingsquad1578 4 жыл бұрын
Excepttttt most people think/or know jack was actually burned alive because of how jack enters the movie
@Mariokid64DS 6 жыл бұрын
The Headless Horseman was a legend around the 1770's, a Hessian when his head was shot off by a cannon, but the horse kept going, even if he was dead. I learned this from my FAVORITE Social Studies teacher.
@camerongaul261 4 жыл бұрын
Here's why I love this theory and believe it. The Headless Horseman was killed in life by a cannon. Jack as Santa was defeated by being shot out of the air with a modern type of cannon. Artistically, it checks out.
@EnAimBoy 6 жыл бұрын
It looks like he used the cannon ball as a head replacement.
@kirbymarchbarcena 5 жыл бұрын
Well, if we're going to assume who was Jack before his demise then look no further in the fairy tales like Lazy Jack, Jack the Giant Killer (or Jack and the beanstalk), and so forth.
@cheyene2884 5 жыл бұрын
JACK IS SO TALL!! HE IS THE BEANSTALK it all makes sense now!
@Jmcwow275 4 жыл бұрын
I broke the 100th wall of animation and movies
@EnAimBoy 6 жыл бұрын
Only problem is what happened to the horse? I always assumed that was an attack were part of the original story and hunting. Couldn't it be a possibility that him saying he's "dead" is not in the sense of dead and alive but like I might say im "mammalian"? More of a descriptor of the class of creature than any comment on its previous state.
@tut28Angel 6 жыл бұрын
EnAimBoy wait isn't Halloween town also a movie series done by Disney? About witches? I wonder if they r linked.
@noisyphilosopherkrk522 6 жыл бұрын
EnAimBoy That is interesting to ask
@jackieg7501 6 жыл бұрын
I love Jack Skellington. I have wondered this too. I thought that there could be clues in "Jack's Lament". There's a line i have thought might give a clue but I have no idea what it leads to; the line is "To a guy in Kentucky, I'm Mr. Unlucky and I'm known throughtout England and France. And since I am dead i can take off my head to recite Shakespherean quotations." I have been thinking maybe Jack was some kind of performer/entertainer while human. Also Jack is tired of scaring and doing the same thing every year so that is how he ends up in Christmas town.
@emmad.176 2 жыл бұрын
It would make sense if he's travelled all over as a performer and storyteller and then dies in Kentucky in a very unfortunate way where he's burned alive.
@jaylinlake-garcia6022 5 жыл бұрын
Wasn’t jack burned to death? There was a lot of evidence. You should watch some vids on that.
@kyliedechamplain9245 6 жыл бұрын
I think Jack is the original Jack from jack-o-lantern the original reason of Halloween
@JoyStar 6 жыл бұрын
That's what I thought too! Him being Stingy Jack would be fitting.
@Midnight.Creepypastas 6 жыл бұрын
Jack-o-Lantern is the reason why we decorade pumpkins for Halloween. The celebration itself is actually Irish and way older.
@salkjdfhalsdgfkauhg 6 жыл бұрын
Midnight Not Irish, Gaelic. And gourds WERE used to ward off spirits, but not Pumpkins.
@KHeartsFan-rh3vm 6 жыл бұрын
Except it was replaced with pumpkins on a much larger scale. And Jack was Irish, Rutabaga not gourd.
@WayneKerrr 6 жыл бұрын
Everyone arguing here needs to watch and read The Halloween Tree. It isn’t just Gaelic. It has many influences from many cultures.
@MsRee713 6 жыл бұрын
My sister dated Chris Sarandon, the voice of Jack Skellington when they were growing up in West Virginia.
@MsDisneylandlover 6 жыл бұрын
TonyaMarie Brown cool
@fox7378 6 жыл бұрын
Hate to break it to ya but Chris Sarandon? XD
@Tailslover2002 4 жыл бұрын
Jack is called "the pumpkin king" and in the beginning of the movie, there is a scarecrow with a pumpkin as head. The scarecrow is even as thin as Jack, so that means that the scarecrow IS Jack.
@pyrettablaze86 3 жыл бұрын
This is no revelation. At the end of the opening sequence the "scarecrow" comes to life, leaps into the fountain and emerges as Jack Skellington in all his ghoulish glory. Besides which, do you mean to suggest Jack was a scarecrow before he became the Pumpkin King...? 🤣
@queenoverhaul707 3 жыл бұрын
BUT THATS JUST A THEORY
@cookiecat0503 3 жыл бұрын
@tea j AND CUT
@anyahgaetan4402 3 жыл бұрын
That is just a costume. But cool
@kyripiro224 2 жыл бұрын
It's pretty much confirmed that the scarecrow was his costume during the ending scene of "This is Halloween" lol
@Nerd89056 6 жыл бұрын
When you brought up Ichabod, I honestly thought you where going to say that he was Jack.
@rosesanders61 4 жыл бұрын
he was burned to this and how you know is because in the starting of the movie he got burn and then he went into water then got introduced as Jack the skellington
@angelam.7267 4 жыл бұрын
The guy in the wheelchair creeped me out the most
@ERJones-fd6oh 4 жыл бұрын
the Mad scientist? he is pretty creepy
@suzannewilson2821 3 жыл бұрын
Dr Finkelstein
@angelam.7267 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@vimoe 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I believe his death was that he tried inspecting his brain himself so he cut his head open?
@diaryofasewercat 3 жыл бұрын
@@vimoe nope. He was poisoned. This explains why his only affect to Sally poisoning him was falling asleep for a while.
@k7253 6 жыл бұрын
According to Walt Disney they found a reason the jack skellington is the headless horseman to begin with but his lament shows that he is the fearful monster of his time
@Rohaniswatto 6 жыл бұрын
Reaching like the end of Space Jam
@Miss_Jackson251 4 жыл бұрын
PLOT TWIST! Jack Skellington is Edgar Allen Poe (I'm joking)
@persom7824 4 жыл бұрын
Bruh
@Miss_Jackson251 4 жыл бұрын
@@strlmdz9663 I said I'm joking....
@daveymedlin3224 4 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@somerandompersononline4535 4 жыл бұрын
@@strlmdz9663 and how many likes does he have now Yeah exactly 🙄🙄
@imjustaguy4340 3 жыл бұрын
Omg your right
@lizzysummersproductions 6 жыл бұрын
I love this theory, but I wonder, could he possibly forget what Christmas was after he died? If he was younger, let's say a kid, wouldn't he forget what Christmas was?
@pimpslayin 6 жыл бұрын
I'm late but the creator even said jack was never alive
@0capy 6 жыл бұрын
It bothered me when you didn't explain in the beginning with Jack when he was on the fake horse with a pumpkin for a head
@AmandaDixson 6 жыл бұрын
This is one of the most put together theories on Jack, that I have ever seen. This is completely 100% accurate and correct. YES! Jack IS the Headless Horseman.
@theoneandonlygree1203 6 жыл бұрын
I really don’t know why you believe this the proof is NOT in the pudding
@moniquetaylor7820 6 жыл бұрын
Amanda Dixson you are right bc if u watch the nightmare before christmas when they say " please make way for a very speical guy our man jack is king of the pumpkin patch" and they pull out the horse with the headless horseman with a pumpkin as a head, that is jack who is the headless horseman the proof us in the movie
@theoneandonlygree1203 6 жыл бұрын
Monique Taylor no because his body and stature does not match the headless horseman and the horse is made of STRAW
@levithorstone2876 6 жыл бұрын
What is the suit all about then y don't he dress in his horseman uniform at all
@lilspoon261 6 жыл бұрын
Amanda Dixson Jack calls himself the pumpkin king. Aka the headless horseman which coincidentally only thinks someone is trying to kill him when cannons are fired at him. Ya. I believe he is the headless horseman. I have since I was a kid.
@hannahskeldon7944 6 жыл бұрын
This is something I always believed that Jack was the Headless horseman ever since I first saw Nightmare Before Christmas. It just made the most sense to me about Jack's Orgins. So I think this is a very good theory.
@IsaacCarlson 6 жыл бұрын
Wow! That's kind of cool we had the same thought process! Thanks for watching!
@calvincook5177 6 жыл бұрын
Can you explain why he is in a pirate ship in the movie "James and the Giant Peach"? What is he doing here? watch this link : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nqh2otmenrqlpqs.html Can you do some more research and make a second part or a revised version of this video because of this new information?
@masterofpasta95 6 жыл бұрын
No he used to be Waluigi
@bulutmaden9571 6 жыл бұрын
hey mate you just blowing from stupid town?
@masterofpasta95 6 жыл бұрын
It’s pal, not mate. Causal
@bulutmaden9571 6 жыл бұрын
i forgot tho pal friend best
@derekvielman 6 жыл бұрын
This guy gets it
@h_4306 6 жыл бұрын
no u
@magicalenby23 6 жыл бұрын
What if the monster who hides under the stairs died in Germany during World War Two and got caught hiding under the stairs and died in camp
@faithclarke7637 6 жыл бұрын
😶😶
@magicalenby23 6 жыл бұрын
Faith Ladd shook
@alyssagarner1822 6 жыл бұрын
Mal The descender actually its too not two.
@jayleel.3463 5 жыл бұрын
Jack was burned death. (WARNING GORY) When a person is burned to death all the skin and muscle and everything is burned off. This leaving a skeleton. Also it shows a big red flashing signal that he was in the beginning. When he had a pumpkin head. He lit himself on fire and then proceeded to dance. Obviously jumping into the fountain in the middle of town and revealing Jack Skellington! This part happens to be my favorite. So there in a long comment that was what happened to Jack in his human life a.k.a his death. Source: “How the characters in THE NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS Died”
@kaymay4205 5 жыл бұрын
The most known theory is that jack was also skinned alive
@malinournmalinourn5529 5 жыл бұрын
Don't confuse his anamorphic form as a condition of Jacks death. AS a spirit representation of a Holiday, the Holiday its self might determine Jacks form. True in the Movie Jack doesn't change form but I postulate that doesn't mean its not possible. Then again this is the land of make believe and everyone can believe what they want.
@RikkuTakanashi 5 жыл бұрын
Jack explores new ways to be scary and being burned to death is pretty scary. I don't think it was personally symbolic at all. That whole scene was sort of a yearly ritual they do every halloween and likely changes each year.
@yeboi7875 5 жыл бұрын
@Ridonkulous :P skin takes a long time to decompose by itself, it takes around 50 years to decompose
@sarahmonteiroganhara469 5 жыл бұрын
@@RikkuTakanashi Exactly what I thought. It can be related to his past bit also it seems a lot like a yearly performance that can change to scare the folks.
@JayMadd13 6 жыл бұрын
Nice theory but I think I have a better one The headless horse man was a pumpkin King, the first one and that's where they got the name. However if Halloween town is, like some theory's state, pergatory then when he killed icabod he finished his business and left. Then Jack became the next, Jack was the son of Victor and heard all about Pergatory or Halloween town. Then when he died he , knowing all about the town, searched for it in his after life. They needed leadership and Jack seemed to be the perfect man for the job. However Jack got so deep into Halloween that he forgot most of the other things in his life before. Only remembering what he knew about Halloween.
@ladypumpkinhead7625 6 жыл бұрын
Cracked it :)
@cameroncrane3770 6 жыл бұрын
I'm just about as entertained by the theories as I am the movies
@HappyGrrs 6 жыл бұрын
Owo
@Midnight.Creepypastas 6 жыл бұрын
Then what happened to the headless horseman?
@JayMadd13 6 жыл бұрын
Midnight he moves on he Rests In Piece
@DeathLender 6 жыл бұрын
What about coralline? Tim burton made the coralline movie but the book of coralline is wrote by Neil gaiman, he also wrote another book called the graveyard book. The main antagonist is called THE MAN JACK.
@silviatrick571 6 жыл бұрын
maybe jack skellington went through antagonist phase and became THE MAN JACK (is that right? i dunno)
@roxiclinton 6 жыл бұрын
Coraline isn’t a Tim Burton movie , Henry Selick directed and developed the screenplay with the halo of Neil Gaiman.
@nastasjadesch4903 6 жыл бұрын
thank you! i hate it when people claim its Tim Burton
@rainbowzebra31 6 жыл бұрын
I also hate when people say Coraline is made my Tim burton. It is by Henry Selick
@DeathLender 6 жыл бұрын
😐 sorry.
@maybebabyhotline2459 6 жыл бұрын
Me: hears him talk about the American revolution My brain: ALEXANDER HAMILTON!!!!
@autinjones7194 6 жыл бұрын
What?
@Kaywaythekaywayhi 6 жыл бұрын
Calm down
@marymolloy1785 6 жыл бұрын
Tbh kinda same not gonna lie
@ryanmyers9711 5 жыл бұрын
Who the hell is that?
@anasocorrob 5 жыл бұрын
MY NAME IS ALEXANDER HAMILTON....AND THERE'S A MILLION THINGS I'VE NEVER DONE....JUST YOU WAIT, JUST YOU WAIIIIIIT
@scrublord5760 6 жыл бұрын
Wow does your arm hurt from that reach?
@purpledino5671 6 жыл бұрын
U can also say he is the headless horseman bc he said hes know well in ENGLAND & FRANCE
@fnafzilla724 6 жыл бұрын
PuRpLe DiNo Sleepy Hallow is in America
@jenh.8084 6 жыл бұрын
He KNOWS OF England and France... Sleepy Hallow IS in America but this English came to America no?
@nocabriah9105 6 жыл бұрын
PuRpLe DiNo meh
@pearlloring4545 6 жыл бұрын
and sleepy hollow is originally an english folk tale told to kids so that they wouldn't leave there homes on All Hollows Eve so the england and france part makes perfect sense
@williamschaeffer409 5 жыл бұрын
in jacks lament, he mentions that he is known throughout england and france. i always wondered wtf this meant. btw audio mutes at 4 39
@Chasie-821 4 жыл бұрын
I've always wondered to 🤔
@Jelisha106 4 жыл бұрын
Jack the Ripper????!!??? Maybe?
@HumanPheromones 3 жыл бұрын
And that he died in Kentucky which is a big thing
@dianagrayson9067 4 жыл бұрын
"He wants to spred fear" Penny wise?! Is that you?
@jodiefindlay382 4 жыл бұрын
No
@possums154 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus, no need to be rude! They were joking.
@Unknown-jz4po 6 жыл бұрын
I just want to know if the nightmare before Christmas is a Halloween film or a Christmas film, plus if jack is the headless horseman, then why does he have a head? If jacks face was shot with a cannonball wouldn't his skull have shattered?
@vincentseamon 6 жыл бұрын
IRON M4N 2004 this film is both, but me and my sister watch it all the time
@vincentseamon 6 жыл бұрын
IRON M4N 2004 also it showed in theatres a few weeks ago near me as a special event for a few days so I'm guessing more towards Halloween
@NinnyPoo_theFlabbergastedJoy 6 жыл бұрын
It’s a Christmas movie. Let’s come up with some theories now, so I haven’t watched all the video yet. But I gather from your comment he gets shot in the face, could’ve been from fighting the Indians and that’s why he didn’t go to the thanksgiving one (I know they didn’t eat the turkey then yea) could’ve been french and the guillotine/British axe/sword what have you... buried with his head so there’s that one...
@NinnyPoo_theFlabbergastedJoy 6 жыл бұрын
Could’ve been an alien! 😯😯😯😲😲👽👻
@TalkinChaoswithKrossObeary 6 жыл бұрын
Joylinn it was released October 13th. It's a Halloween movie.
@Kuso319 6 жыл бұрын
frankenweenie's main character is named Victor and same for Corpse Bride and the both owned dogs. In frankenweenie his dog dies and the dead dog in Corpse Bride is that dog. And in the nightmare before christmas i feel like Victor didn't want to go by Victor because he was known by the dead already and he didn't want them to because of his decision not to continue the marriage with Emily that he changed his name to Jack and from there on. I'm claiming to be right or anything it's just what I think.
@goobergays9688 6 жыл бұрын
damn that had me thinking lol
@starjumper 6 жыл бұрын
Corpse Bride and Frakenweenie are set in different time periods though
@xoctavia1418 6 жыл бұрын
Jacks Title of "Pumpkin King" could be talking about The headless Horsemans's use of a pumpkin, Or that He is truly the King of Pumpkins, and is just an ordinary farmer in Holloween town, Growing produce, and making Back handed deals with Turky town, Sneeking in a few Turkies, and bribing the mayor..... scary indeed.... But i think Jack was the headless horseman, And the towns folk gave him a gift of his head, So he could have closure, and see the things he had done to the living in spite.
@Meli_monster 6 жыл бұрын
Okay good theory for going into the Halloween bandwagon. But your missing a huge detail in the flim, Jack never talks about a past life, or him ever being a human. And also you suggesting that jack was human or dies around the 1870 (which 1870 is the year Christmas became a national holiday) Which also doesn't make sense because well the nightmare before Christmas takes place around 1900s. And well from the song jacks lament we hear jack has been the ruler of Halloween for a long time. Long enough for him to get bored of it. And well him dying around 1870's before Christmas was a more modern and popular holiday, and then coming to get bored around 1900s of Halloween. It doesnt really make sense. Plus jack didnt know any of the other holidays because of his confused face when seeing all the doors. And if he was human he must of known what Valentine's day was since it had been celebrated since 270 A.D which was to celebrate dead love ones. it shows how much older he is, He only went to the Christmas door because it was more decorated. And with the headless horse man, that's a huge leap of logic. Jack has never been human, he has always been been a skeleton. He had no past life.
@lauracamve 6 жыл бұрын
Just out of curiosity: How do you know the movie is set on 1900?
@redacted8525 6 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure NMBC was set in present day (at the time) or I could see as late as the 60's. Pretty sure there is use of modern-ish cars, computers, phones and a police force that seemed to be functioning with multiple units, radios, a dispatch, and uniforms. Police didn't get uniforms until 1853 (NY) and in 1867, the first telegraph system was used to log an officer's location with a turn key. The first police car was used in Akron, Ohio in 1910 and by 1912 paddy wagons had seen use. Home phones were still mostly a luxury for the wealthy into the 40's, up till the early 60's they still had party lines with multiple families on one box. Wasn't till the late 60's that it would have been more common for a family to have a private phone line. Also, more importantly, 911 has only been a thing for about 50 years. So based on that, I would put the films time between 1961-1991. I have no idea why I felt the need to unload that opinion, but there it is. Maybe one day one of those years will help someone on Jeopardy.
@Meli_monster 6 жыл бұрын
Lucretzia Noin still with your point that's not nearly enough time for jack to be bored of Halloween. Since he has said he's been doing it for a long long time.
@ghoulsandwitches 6 жыл бұрын
the meli monster the guy said Jack would have had to die in the early 1800's not the late 1800's
@margeivey3101 6 жыл бұрын
the meli monster l
@aestheticmemezz2985 6 жыл бұрын
Lol I'm watching nightmare before Christmas right now !!
@DylanoTheWizard 6 жыл бұрын
Cool disneygirl Well dont, you will miss the movie when you are looking at your phone/tablet/pc/laptop
@yeezys3507 6 жыл бұрын
Cool disneygirl You Play roblox KID
@gracexoxo9773 6 жыл бұрын
I'm watching the corpse bride 😂
@gracexoxo9773 6 жыл бұрын
Well listening to it in the background
@marycannon2943 6 жыл бұрын
😂 haha silly duck 🦆 duck you are watching this video or rather reading this comment hehe 😉 so you are listening to his video with nightmare before Christmas as back background my you are a good multitasker
@ElizabethJasmineNino 6 жыл бұрын
*I honestly think Jack is Victor* _ɪᴛ's ᴀʟʟ ᴀ ғᴀᴍɪʟʏ ᴛʀᴇᴇ..._
@angel195movies2 6 жыл бұрын
Elizabeth Jasmine Nino same
@SlayerKid 6 жыл бұрын
I think that theory was debunked by the creator
@treyk.8802 6 жыл бұрын
I think definitely not.
@jandcstudiosgamingvlogsand5681 6 жыл бұрын
It's not a family tree. If Jack had to be born before Christmas was a thing AND as he says in Jack's Lament had to be there for a long time, he couldn't be related to Victor who lived only in the 1800's. I thought the whole Family Tree thing was a bit of a stretch anyway...
@coralaisly 6 жыл бұрын
I don't. Jack's skull shape wouldn't fit Victor. Jack doesn't have a pointy chin. He has a round face.
@kawaii_asianpotato205 6 жыл бұрын
Here's a theory! Well I think so.. I think that Jack has a sister and I think the sister was Emily
@jalesabattle2838 6 жыл бұрын
Kawaii_Asian Potato incorrect
@MintyFur-2828 6 жыл бұрын
Kawaii_Asian Potato yep
@auralonjenn8850 6 жыл бұрын
Kawaii_Asian Potato what makes u say that
@deluna7479 6 жыл бұрын
Idk if that is right
@ashleymoore9677 6 жыл бұрын
Kawaii_Asian Potato he doesn't have a sister
@heatherbaker4538 6 жыл бұрын
Um... Tim Burton directed a version of sleepy hollow... so... that might be more relevant. I mean, it's the same information, and obviously there are some visual clues like the statues, but doesn't it make sense that Tim Burton would want to give that backstory in his own movies? Also... WHY ARE WE ASSUMING HE WAS SUPPOSED TO GET CLOSURE FROM FINDING HIS HEAD. When you're fighting, like say, a war or something, fear is your greatest ally. It's your first defense. You can avoid a fight (which you may lose, and thus, die from) if you're just scary enough. But then he DID die, and what he was trying to do when he died he still felt a strong need to do (Tim Burton explains all this in the corpse bride, how emily desperately wants to get married, since it's what she was trying to do when she died). The problem is, these characters have a strong need to do that thing, but they have to overcome what it was that they feel the strong need to do. Because they died. It's like how people will get robbed, and then they're afraid of being alone at night or something. They have to overcome the thing they're afraid to let go of. Once they do, they have personal growth, and can move on from it. And, you know, move on. So it's not about doing what they feel they want to, it's about doing the right thing DESPITE what they feel. For emily, she really wanted to get married, but she didn't, because it wasn't the right thing ("this is wrong") and thus, grew and moved on. With Jack, it's letting go of his fear. Which is why he still hasn't moved on in the end. But it is a good step in the right direction, because he learns to respect Christmas (sets it back to rights, doesn't see it as a means to cause more fear anymore) and even starts to feel love for himself (with Sally). So love was the thing he was missing all along (they make no attempt to hide that I think) and even though he hasn't let go of fear and moved on, it's still kinda a happy ending (showing positive growth, so maybe he WILL move on later). Poof. There's that theory! Tell me what ya'll think.
@heatherbaker4538 6 жыл бұрын
And to those who say the new sleepy hollow doesn't fit with my theory, since the headless horseman moves on in the end, after getting his head, notice there's also a woman on his horse who he kisses. I think it's supposed to symbolize that. Otherwise it jsut seems a bit random that he kisses her, don't you think? AND HE GOES INTO A TREE. WHICH COULD BE THE HALLOWEEN TREE DONCHA THINK.
@joshvanvleet8389 6 жыл бұрын
Well explained, thank you
@laurynwade2470 6 жыл бұрын
This is a really good theory!
@margeivey3101 6 жыл бұрын
I've never watched ANY of the movies in your theory, but my father told me alot about NBC, watched it or not, I like the way you theorize.
@fantasyeve87 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting theory!! I can’t say that he was ever the Headless horseman though bc it’s obvious the horseman is more of the murdering sort and Jack just likes to strike fear. Maybe he murdered people when he was alive but it doesn’t seem to be his key way of striking fear like the horseman. Hmmmmm….
@zelpazz 2 жыл бұрын
2:04 are we sure about that though? Jack's fascination for christmas could also be a lost memory from his life. Seeing this christmas land lightened something up inside of Jack and he felt a connection to it, a connection to his human self.
@gordonramsay1691 3 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure Jack was actually burned alive
@betelgeuseredstone9082 2 жыл бұрын
I already figured it out. Jack Skellington was born sometime before Victor & Victoria. Victor & Victoria, might have witnessed a crime and left, and had to changed their own names. Their own surname have to changed to Skellington, sometime after they both had kids of their own. One of the kids names were Jack, as in Jack Skellington. That we known, and he used to celebrate Christmas. Something went wrongfully when Jack was still young, they all couldn’t celebrate Christmas not anymore. So, Jack only remembers Halloween. If you approve my theory, please comment down. And have Burton day.
@dennythesavage Жыл бұрын
Frankenweenie, Corpse Bride, James and the Giant Peach, and A Nightmare before Christmas are all about the same character in different time lines.
@ajurassicfan9557 2 жыл бұрын
One problem with that theory. In one of his songs he says he is feared in great Britain and Europe not anything about America where the headless horseman was
@dominiquemclellan5810 3 жыл бұрын
Jack was burned to death that is why he is a skeleton,Sally got her limbs cut off that is why she is stitched together,The Boogie Man was skinned that why he where’s a bag type thing,and finally Jack’s dog drowned that why he floats.
@queenoverhaul707 3 жыл бұрын
I think that zero was electrified because if his bright nose
@vimoe 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah Zero was electrocuted
@vimoe 3 жыл бұрын
And a theory, I think the mail man broke his neck?
@vimoe 3 жыл бұрын
Barrel drowned in a bathtub as you can see he had that bathtub, and it also explains why his skin is a pale, greenish blue
@vimoe 3 жыл бұрын
Shock and Lock both froze alive, or at least one of them
@havenberger2301 2 жыл бұрын
Hear me out in Sleepy Hollows Ichabod Crane was said to have been burned by a flaming pumpkin, but they never proved that Ichabod was killed. The pumpkin could have burned off his skin. But it is also said that the horseman took Ichabod back to hell with him. So maybe Ichabod when taken back to hell killed the headless horseman and then was given the option to go to Holloween Town since he was still not satisfied. So when the movie starts and it shows Jack with a pumpkin on his head maybe the straw horse he is riding is a way of mocking the headless horseman. So every year he rides the straw horse with a flaming pumpkin head as a way to get revenge. It's a stretch but you never know.
@bernardwalker3060 2 жыл бұрын
Hello
@PaddyByrne-d3w 9 күн бұрын
The dog from frankenweenie was called sparkie and jacks dog was also called sparkie so jack is victor the main character from corpse bride was also called victor so it was one storyline
@CruellaDaDalmatian 3 жыл бұрын
4:39 why is this part silent?! Who did Jack murder?!
@ijustdidahugeshit 2 жыл бұрын
Madonna
@haunter8661 Жыл бұрын
You’re forgetting, jack has been doing this job for more than 100 years.
@c3sc0as 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve always thought Jack was Jack Sparrow. He was a pirate in James and the Giant Peach and the reason he’s all bones is because like in Pirates one his curse caused him to lose his skin.
@Kidfun89 2 жыл бұрын
You’re quite the detective 🕵️♂️ good job tho ❤️ Exploring the possibilities was quite fun to follow with u
@charleshetrick3152 2 жыл бұрын
He didn’t know what Christmas was, he didn’t have a human life. He’s the spirit of Halloween.
@DefHuman 2 жыл бұрын
This appeared in my recommended two years after it was posted. The fact I watched nightmare before Christmas last night-
@jackiexkh 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think Jack is *really* dead, he's just the embodiment of Halloween. He was just... always a skeleton who always lived in Halloween Town. Also claiming Jack is the same character as someone from a completely unrelated movie is just dumb.
@charity9660 2 жыл бұрын
This is also a good one
@pixelatedtoast 3 жыл бұрын
Theres 4 options •The skeleton pirate from james in the giant peach (possibly jack sparrow) •Headless Horseman •Ichabod Crane himself •Stingy Jack
@pinkushatejar 9 ай бұрын
My theory: Jack Skellington is the pirate Calico Jack. 1, Jack appears as the captain of the ghost ship James runs into in the icy waters. 2, "Calico" Jack Rackham died in 1720, before modern Christmas practices in the 19th century. 3, After Calico Jack was executed, his body was left in an iron gibbet for possibly years, his skeleton was on display for a very long time. 4, Calico clothing of the time very strongly favored stripes, which Skellington wears 5, They even have the same name lmao
@avaandthecookies1003 2 жыл бұрын
I watched your KZfaq as a joke and now I can’t stop watching it
@Chnl27 2 жыл бұрын
Wat the end of the movie when Jack and Sally are singing Jack is falling in love with his nurse that aided him during the war. It would make sense because Sally knows how to stitch herself back together. Jack had eyes for her after some time injuries that he got during the war.
@emmad.176 2 жыл бұрын
A number of people also reckon jack was a performer. Maybe he was a performer, then soldier? And Sally was a nurse present at his death? I reckon Sally might've gotten blown up or chopped up or something, as horrible as that sounds. It makes sense with her sewing herself up.
@thomasdecataldo2674 2 жыл бұрын
I think Jack is Ichabod Crane because they are both very, very tall. Also, when Jack enters Halloween town on the straw horse in the beginning he is dressed as the Headless Horseman!
@lisaanderson1695 Жыл бұрын
I think this is a little too deep. I think Jack is the *idea* of death, the *idea* of a skeleton. The fact that he's dead inside doesn't mean he was ever alive. As for when Santa became a thing, I think the holiday forest is outside of time.
@the_trans_ferret13 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, me and my friends came up with a theory about Jack: so, we were thinking that Jack WAS Vincent from corpse bride. Ik you might be confused but hear me out: what if after he died, he didnt remember most things from when he was alive, just the subtle details. And because he had been to the land of the dead before, maybe thats why he became Jack Skellington when he actually died. And I think that Jack loves Sally because she reminds him in a subtle way of the woman Victor married, I forgor her name. Plus, like you said, they both have a very fond thunking of dogs. And I think Victor and Jack do have many similarities making me believe my theory: they are both very slim, very cunning, and great fighters. If you think this theory may be true, please let me know. I wanna see if anyone agrees with me.
@patrickmurphy6775 2 жыл бұрын
You have done a lot of work on this subject. I am impressed with your dedication. Great job!
@RedAngelSophia 2 жыл бұрын
You seem to be overlooking Captain Jack Sparrows (Pirates of the Carribean). Not only do they both have the same first name (Jack) - but if you watch JAMES AND THE GIANT PEACH (which like both movies is from Disney, and which like NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS is from Tim Burton) there is a scene in which you see what appears to be an intermediate, transitional state between the two. It was that scene that convinced me of Jack Skellington’s identity.
@idontkniw7992 3 жыл бұрын
I personally thought Jack was the victor from frankenweenie this is why In the movie Jack was doing experiments to try to find out what was the meaning of Christmas and victor was doing experiments to bring is dog back from the dead as in the movie he was known as the science genus And zero has a shining nose and in frankenweenie lighting bought back sparky back alive if it was the same dog then the lighting might have caused his nose to shine And in nightmare before Christmas Jack is surrounded by monsters as in frankenweenie victor accidentally made a monster while doing the experiment again and 4 other monsters were made not by him though but from other classmates that found out what he was doing Jack had sang “I am Mr unlucky” well victor was in a near death situation while trying to save sparky again Last one victor has a slight resemblance to Jack skeleton I mean even in the afterlife he is wearing the same pants and his face structure is the same as jack
@ss11733 2 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily true: he could have amnesia about his life, which is a common trope in movies
@emmad.176 2 жыл бұрын
That's what I thought too. Also, being that he's so theatrical, could he have been an actor, performer or a director? He also gives me eccentric rich man vibes.
@complex2live 2 жыл бұрын
You are the new MatPat sir. I love this. Even though I have never seen Ichabod and Mr. Toad, thus makes way too much sense. Kudos to you
@cieraclark1663 3 жыл бұрын
when the monsters were singing in the song and jack set himself on fire couldn’t that be alluding to the fact that maybe jack was burned alive ?
@mlgpinguin6696 10 ай бұрын
So that's why Tiny Toons portrayed Jack with a pumpkin head..
@tysirrah 2 жыл бұрын
I think Jack is the original Jack O' The lantern. ( FYI INFO CAME FROM JON SOLOS CHANNEL) An Irish folktale about the origin of Jack O'lanturns. Basically he was a horrible person who wasn't allowed in heaven, but tricked the devil into not collecting his soul when he died. So he was cursed to wander the earth with a lantern carved from a turnip to light his way. Over time the turnip turned a pumpkin because people found them easier to carve. It explains why he has a pumpkin on his head in the beginning, and implies that Halloween town is purgatory.
@zsofianagy8805 Жыл бұрын
I've heard that frankenwieenie was when he where a child, the corpse bride when he where an adult, and then here comes the afterelife, the nightmare before christmas. I think.
@beccawilson1368 2 жыл бұрын
i personally think the pumpkin king has always been. he doesnt know about christmas because he doesnt venture into the mortal world for more than hallows eve. so he doesnt see the traditions of any other holidays. they dont know what the easter bunny is either.
@space_raider1580 10 ай бұрын
I like the theory with the headless horsemen and to link onto it . At the start of the film whilst the citizens of halloween town are singing, we can see jack in his pumpkin form is riding a horse and the headless horsemen does have a pumpkin head and rides a horse 🤯
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