Went to a service call where the system wasn't cooling. The system is low and has developed a leak at the condenser coil. Trane is notorious for leaking here. Would you repair this 14 year old system or replace it?
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@Tetarkall Жыл бұрын
Find the leak, recover, solder the spot, pressure test with nitrogen, vacuum pump, charge unit.
@Tetarkall Жыл бұрын
@@Brekstahkid I'm just stating the proper way to fix a leak. You're right, nothing is free.
@BurntLemmons Жыл бұрын
If the refrigerant is completely recovered the system is technically open and a filter drier should be replaced as well.
@Tetarkall Жыл бұрын
@@BurntLemmons You’re correct yes
@Rangerscott69 Жыл бұрын
Its how techs are trained now. Dont fix, just replace.
@Accidentfreelife Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@groupergary5536 Жыл бұрын
Any major appliances I use the 8 to 12 year rage, you got your value from it. And would consider replacing. But fixing is always an option.
@danielweber409010 ай бұрын
you can fix, but if you put new equipment on old systems, the life of the equipment will be much shorter than if it was on a new system. Also especially with home warranty work, recalls happen a lot more when you just complete the repair.
@gilmarperez8752 Жыл бұрын
Bro, repair the leak it’s on copper
@fastlife866 Жыл бұрын
Recover the refrigerant and fix the leak, iv brazed numerous coils even aluminum with solderweld. Your only giving them 2 options?
@SalvadorHVAC Жыл бұрын
We're all supertechs, of course if that was your house you would fix that because you have a skill that others don't, but what does it cost to keep the system going? Cost of the repair now, energy cost, along with Future maintenance & repairs etc.
@fastlife866 Жыл бұрын
@Salvador Bribiesca It all depends on overall shape of the equipment. In most cases it wont pay to fix an old r22 system. Most people right now can't afford just to just shell out thousands of dollars for a new system.
@bbaothaitu Жыл бұрын
I would fix the R-22 system if it is still in decent shape, my cousin's house still has the Janitrol that came with the house (built in 1970)
@zack9912000 Жыл бұрын
@fastlife866 Most people can't afford a new one. This is a real easy repair. Max 1 hour of work. This is 410A.
@CM-ou4zr Жыл бұрын
@@fastlife866 most people can afford everything else in life it's priorities people live beyond the means they have
@eyrie08 Жыл бұрын
Always the best approach. Present it to the customer from both sides and let them make an “eyes open” decision. You build trust, which builds rapport. I always look for companies that pay their techs on commission, and I do not recommend those companies. After 35 years in the industry, it has been my experience that motivating techs in that manner almost always backfires. Better for me to say “I don’t make any more or less depending on your choice to replace or repair”
@HVAC-TECH-Les Жыл бұрын
Or repair....because you know as well as I do where that leak is on that Trane
@benjaminfournier1815 Жыл бұрын
99% of HVAC companies are scammers. Times and times again I've seen HVAC "techs" wanting to replace the whole unit because it's "old". Last occurance was 2 weeks ago, when a friend of mine was quoted 6k to replace a unit because the compressor and fan were blown. Me, suspicious, not believing that both could go bad at the same time went and fixed the unit in 5 mins. No power to the unit. Breaker was tripped. Reset breaker and unit is running since then. If the breaker was still tripping I would ask questions but it isn't and the electrical load is normal. Of course it was an "honest mistake" from the "tech". Changing the whole unit makes absolutely no sense anyway, you'd never recoup your investment before that POS new unit that won't last 10 years dies.
@kameljoe21 Жыл бұрын
100 dollars for refrigerant. Well R410a cost 450 dollars for a 25 lbs canister which is 18 dollars per pound. Where the fuck does this guy comes off charging 100 dollars per pound. These people are ripping people off left and right.
@kameljoe21 Жыл бұрын
@@phillipterrrazas575 I hear you. I can be pretty handy. I am not rich yet fairly well off so I can afford to pay someone to come out and fix stuff. Yet most things can be fixed with low costing parts. I know a number of people who have been ripped off over and over. Had a friend who had a water heater problem. You know the kind that blink the light when there is a problem. Most times the cost is around 30 dollars to 200 dollars for a thermocoupler or control valve. The company came in and said they needed to replace it and it would be 1500 dollars. I told them to relight it and tell me the code. It was a thermocoupler which cost her 30 dollars online and about an hour installing it. Works fine and she ended up calling the company and complaining. Not like that did anything. Another friend had her furnace quit working and it was the same type of sales call where they said her furnace was shot and recommneded replacing it. I told her what the problem was by reading the code off the furnace and she fixed it. You can find a ton of these things on social media where people ask their friends who would you call and so on. Most times I do not see them till a day later or when they complain about the cost to fix them. That when I chime in. Several years ago another friend of mine was having furnace problems and they are on propane and the temperature was in the negative 40s for a couple of weeks and she was having all kinds of problems. She called a numeber of places and they told her over the phone that it would be in the thousands to replace her furnace as it is broken. The problem was her propane was so cold that it could not build up pressure to which I instructed her to tell her husband to go out and start the tractor and take a bunch of large square bales and out them around their propane tank and he did it and by the end of the day her heat slowly came back. He was able to run an extension cord and heat lamp out to the propane tank and got it to warm up quite well. He built a shed that he can push around the the tank and there is now electric out at the tank to provide heat if it ever gets that cold again. People get robbed all the time. This old guy I knew had a freezer that had an fridge ice machine that stopped working. He had some type of insurance that you can buy where they will fix your appliances if they break. They come with a one time fee for service and it was I think 100 bucks or something. He was telling me about it and how he was going to wait till the first of the month to have them come out. So whyile I was there I looked at the ice machine and it was one of those really cheap basic ones you can order on amazon for like 50 bucks, I ordered one and it came before the first of the month and I installed it in 10 mins. As its just a couple co screws, a plug wire and the drip line thing. I mean they are so simple he said he could have done it. He paid me at the first of the month and thanked me for saving him that money. I fear that older people get taken advantage of a lot more than people think. One of my older neighbors fears owning credit cards, debit cards and does not know how to shop online. Though they seem to be able to use the internet pretty well. Their fear is that amazon charges a lot of money to ship. I have clearly shown her that they do not. I have ordered things for her online. Though last year she ordered a fridge from a local place in which she paid 2k for a fridge that sells for 1k at home depot. Her fridge went to a local repair man and was sold online as her fridge had a dent in the bottom door from hitting a cabinet door handle all the time. We went and looked at it and ask him if there had been any repairs and old it was and how long did he have it. He said that just fixed a loose wire that had gotten loose and he bought it off some old lady who got a new one. That guy got a ear full. They repaired and sell new and used. He wanted 500 dollars for the fridge. I see this stuff happen all the time. Even here on youtube I have seen a bunch of shorts where people toss dryers, washers for common parts that need to be replaced. Water control valve univeral sells for less than 30 dollars on amazon/ebay and are almost direct replacements. Washer pumps, door micro switches. Dryers end up plugged up with lint. One of my spare dryers I got for free had this problem to which I got from a neighbor who asked me if I would help move the old ones out and the new ones in. I asked what was wrong with it and she said it heats up then stops. Took me 30 mins to take the back off and suck out the lint and it worked just fine. She still replaced them with new units. I do not think these units were 10 years old at the time.
@damon6852 Жыл бұрын
I went on a call yesterday and the “tech” before me could not replace the disconnect because it was “high voltage”…Flipping idiot, it’s the same voltage as the AC unit next to it!! I am really getting tired of idiots, crooks and thieves!
@Dogdickdale Жыл бұрын
@@phillipterrrazas575I haven’t worked in over 2 years because of a surgery I had and people still call me asking if I can come back because they hate their new company. Stay honest and you get the best customers for life.
@googlesux666 Жыл бұрын
Resetting the breaker isn't fixing the unit.
@Danbilawchuk Жыл бұрын
who the fuck is charging $100 per lb of 410?
@jtalonrider4769 Жыл бұрын
Him 😂😂😂😂
@Hopefullymarried2 ай бұрын
Our outfit charges $35/lb…$100 is WOW 🤯
@PartTimeYooper Жыл бұрын
I just installed a York R22 unit from 1987 that sat in a warehouse the last 35+ years.
@zack9912000 Жыл бұрын
R407C or R22b. That unit will out last the new stuff
@PartTimeYooper Жыл бұрын
@zack9912000 R22. Still had plastic caps on the compressor.
@tpp4747 Жыл бұрын
I'll fix it for $1000 😅
@coldonehernandez4906 Жыл бұрын
That’s a big problem with the industry now… “techs” are lazy to recover refrigerant and apply the skills soldering that joint. But I guess someone has to pay for the fancy tools😂😂
@kameljoe21 Жыл бұрын
Plus he is asking 100 dollar per pound on something that cost 18... What a fucking rip off.
@JunkTech89 Жыл бұрын
100$ is way to high
@AJ-ox8xy Жыл бұрын
You have a wonderful opportunity to undercut him and take the client away. Go and fix it.
@christopherscott8853 Жыл бұрын
It looked like an easy repair at a process stub to me.
@christopherscott8853 Жыл бұрын
It looked like an easy repair on a low side process stub to me. Pump that thing down and hit it with some 15%. 1 hour.
@zack9912000 Жыл бұрын
What a scammer looks like, easy repair, have done dozens of those. A known leak spot on a trane. Recover the 410, braze the leak, pull a quick vacuum and add your charge. 4 to 5 pounds to the recovered gas. 410A isn't that expensive, lol.We were charging 100 a pound for R22 last year. That is a 900 to at max 1200 dollar repair.
@s550wulf9 Жыл бұрын
Yeah misdiagnosed, refrigerant leak my ass. Metering device is the issue. There might be a small leak but that’s not why it’s short cycling, notice pressure drop and lp switch cut unit off. Pump the unit down replace the metering device, fix your leak and all good. You hacks make me lol Replacing that coil just masks the real issue being the metering device
@jasongyurich4278 Жыл бұрын
2300 is cheap for a new condenser coil, refrigerant, leak search and service call. Don’t know where you live but here fixing that for that price is a way better option if there are no other problems
@andrewbrown9497 Жыл бұрын
$100 # 410 is high. Your marking that up about 6x $50 is the going rate 2023. If that is in the aluminum coil they make a coupling to repair that. If it's in the copper that will be a very quick and easy fix. Under 2 hours with fix with vacuum and recharging the system.
@2969566 Жыл бұрын
yeah i charge 150$ up to corect sh or sc
@kameljoe21 Жыл бұрын
R410a is 18 dollars per pound when you buy a 25 pound canister. FFS why they hell are you charging 100 dollars. This is where you make your money by charging 100 dollars for something that is 18 dollars. Had someone come in a couple of years ago to replace one of those condensate pumps and they charged me 150 dollars just for the pump. The fucker left the box that came from amazon, so before I paid him I bought the exact same pump box and all unopened and went to their offices and handed them their trash box and all then told them that I would not be paying the 150 dollars for the pump. I will pay what I paid for the pump. Which was right around 50 dollars. I showed him the unopened box and then his box that the pump came in. I then told him that I am going to take out a nice size add in the local paper that show that you the owner of the company have been ripping people off for who knows how long. He begged me not to do that and said he would refund everyone in the last 2 years and to give him a week to get everything to gatherered. Took him a bit over a week to send me a copy of about 50 ish names with statments of the original order price and then the price they paid and a copy of every check. I called about 10 of them and asked if they got refunds and they all said yes. They are not happy with me. Seen the guy a couple months back at a local eatery in which they were not willing to stop and say something. I still have that brand new pump and will just replace it if it ever fails again. I also do not take kindly to people ripping me off. I was willing to pay their service fee of 100 dollars due to where I live yet not the over charging me. I am well off enough that something petty like that I will blow 1000 dollars just to prove a point. I even went as far as to hire a lawyer to take someone to small claims court because they failed to adhear to a written agreement. So much that they complied almost right away. The lawyer had done next to nothing so they did not charge me. I got what I wanted. So do not ever try and rip me off because you will regret it.
@scottlanier5133 Жыл бұрын
My company charged me $150 a lb for r410a today
@kameljoe21 Жыл бұрын
@@scottlanier5133 What do you mean by your company. You post is a bit unclear. HVAC people tend to rip people off.
@scottlanier5133 Жыл бұрын
@@kameljoe21 I meant the company that came out in service in my unit today
@MFitz717 Жыл бұрын
Easy repair. Leaking on either discharge or suction tubing underneath the condenser coil.
@Middlefinger696 Жыл бұрын
You didn’t notice the oil. Leak detection is the universal thing that makes a good tech from a bad technician. Nitrogen is the most effective way to detect leaks.
@HVACTechTips Жыл бұрын
I agree. I did see a little oil but for content sake, I wanted to use the leak detector.
@licensetochill79 Жыл бұрын
Oh my god dude that's definitely easy fix. It's a train unit all you do is pull the damn aluminum off the copper pinpoint leak. Pull the gas Breeze it shut change the dryer pull vacuum charge and go. Come on easy money you residential guys love to replace equipment
@jonathanlantin247 Жыл бұрын
Dude, Fix that leak, clean the coil and charge it up, its most likely about 3-4 lbs low ot 410 Id charge 500$ and have it done in 2 hrs
@heyzeuss Жыл бұрын
We need more real honest trade guys like you. Please breed and multiply🙏
@gamewizardks Жыл бұрын
That's about what I'd charge for this job. Good call.
@leerayjeankens304 Жыл бұрын
I never allow a technician from any trade who finds discovers problems fix those problems. Thank you for finding them, get me a quote and I'll have someone else a different company repair or replace it.
@JuanPeron007 Жыл бұрын
I agree. Specially when dealing with HVAC
@gamewizardks Жыл бұрын
Don't want to go with me on the repair? Then you still owe me $150 for the service call. Your line of reasoning is ridiculous.
@leerayjeankens304 Жыл бұрын
@@gamewizardks Understandable why you feel that way. I just pad 3 techs a trip charge to repair my AC. The 1st two techs were capable but didn't want to put in the time to diagnose and repair the issue. Shotgun maintenance. 3rd tech troubleshot my AC problems to my condenser fan after verifying my capacitor was good. Yes I paid Extra but I found a reliable tech I can call for all future AC problems and that was worth the extra money. The 3rd tech verified that the 2nd was also trustworthy but not as diligent in his craft. You can have 150 thats nothing compared to the money my guy will get replacing both of my complete systems. Upstairs and downstairs.
@jasonhill2180 Жыл бұрын
I can't believe how much HVAC work costs. I was quoted $17k for a unit to heat and cool a 40x50x14 shop. Maybe that's a reasonable cost but seems realky high to me.
@NackDSP Жыл бұрын
The leak is a crack in the brazed connection to the pump from the vibration. It is a simple repair that takes an hour. Coils of pipe don't wear out. The same guy would sell you all new plumbing for your house if it was 14 years old. What a scam.
@crys4789 Жыл бұрын
Refrigerant got hella expensive in 2008 because of the EPA
@jtalonrider4769 Жыл бұрын
Yeah but 100$? Per pound
@FaustoMedina Жыл бұрын
@@jtalonrider4769what is the correct price??
@GoSuM23 Жыл бұрын
Better to replace , they run that shit hard nonstop guaranteed
@keepthinking2666 Жыл бұрын
Repair always
@bairyparrett Жыл бұрын
As HVAC tech for 27 years I see this from Companies all the time this Guy should have pulled the Freon did a Nitrogen pressure test found the leak and fixed it Tranes are Notorious for the High pressure line at the Bottom of the unit Runs against the Bottom of the Pan!!! This would have been a 15 minute fix pressure test again after repairs pull Vacuum Recharge system Done!! This Guy didn't even try and pin point the leak shame on him he's Lazy!!!! And wants the percentage of the Sale !! There are a Lot of Crooks in this Business and this is One of them!!! These Coils Rarely ever Leak it was a leak on the piping as I said I've seen this many times and so has this Technician!!! This is what give our Industry a Bad Name .... More Companies like this than Not BTW it's Not Hard to stop a TRANE 😅
@KeithJamesDesigns Жыл бұрын
Everybody knows new units are trash. My 20-year-old unit has outlived my neighbor's 2 replacements.
@brandonk6479 Жыл бұрын
Ok I can't see 100% where exactly that leak is... but it looks like it is %100 repairable...
@user-zc2hk3cs6v Жыл бұрын
upgrade to a high efficiency heat pump and the homeowner can get 30% back on their taxes up to 2k
@sanguinewolf4482 Жыл бұрын
Just had 3 quotes for replacing a single unit and all three came in between 16 and 24 k… no thank you I’m gonna fix my unit. New units are only rated for 10 years, what garbage.
@TheBwkaylor Жыл бұрын
16-24k. This cant be a home. That is outrage. Tell them you dont want the top tier unit. Just a simple one. Nothing communicating Trust me.
@PartTimeYooper Жыл бұрын
You can't get a great heat pump for $4-5k. How does it cost 10-20k to install what is not even a days labor???
@GoSuM23 Жыл бұрын
If my prices where that high I'd be rich as f
@TheBwkaylor Жыл бұрын
@GoSuM23 for me a standard 5t rheem is like 10k roughly. Idk were 16 even comes from. Let alone 24. We just bid out a 10t trane rtu with curb for 18k lol. I guess if they fling a price and it sticks they are happy.
@scottlanier5133 Жыл бұрын
Get a mr cool universal
@stephennichols4815 Жыл бұрын
You are correct give the customer options and prices and your professional opinion 😂 let them decide which ever one they decide on your company makes money and the customer will have to make that decision again and hopefully they will saving getting prepared for the best solution next time
@eurika7655 Жыл бұрын
We live in 2023. My unit is a 2009 American standard heritage 3 ton 13. 7 years in this happened. $2000 Dollar Condenser replacement. 2 years later a piston valve for $425. Now my once efficient unit runs 5 degrees higher during the summer time. It's in my opinion they make these units to break not to last. How come no technology improvement has been made in longevity or durability in 14 years ? Let thst sink in.
@matthewwolfinger801811 ай бұрын
Most likely in the sub cooling circuit. If it is a piston inside, you can just bypass that circuit, and it will last for years.
@MrMilligan18 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t be confident calling it “ low on 410” until I saw the sub cooling and super heat. I mean, if you got 8-10 degrees of sub cooling with those pressures, you got other issues going on.
@philipedelstein2628 Жыл бұрын
Could just be low in refridgerant could be a shrader valve ..the first option the replace the compressor is bs
@stevenphillip1159 Жыл бұрын
Now there a simple soldering repair unit still works perfect save people money
@daveyt4802 Жыл бұрын
R22 I would. R410 I'd repair the leak.
@jimw75505 ай бұрын
My 15 yo AC unit had low pressure. Technician wanted to replace everything. I had him add sealer and 3 lb refrigerant. Seven years later, running well. I do need 3 lb every two years.
@sethweston4654 Жыл бұрын
Trane/AS… pretty sure your discharge line rubbed the base of the condenser. Remove,braze an recharge. Unless it’s r22. Shouldn’t be that expensive to repair. I fix them all the time. An if it is R22. R422B is an affordable option.
@brian395 Жыл бұрын
LOL most techs don't know how to repair just replace.
@ReeleKool Жыл бұрын
This is a Known issue with TRANE since 2005 and they actually have a compression fitting repair kit that compresses on the aluminum side and weld new copper tube on the copper side and compress to the other side of compression fitting... Learn your trade.. don't be a tourist...
@blh3741 Жыл бұрын
quote it 3 ways(new unit, new coil, repair leak) and let them decide. If it was mine, I'd go repair.
@damon6852 Жыл бұрын
I would take a shot at fixing that condenser…it’s much easier to fix a condenser than an evaporator, generally speaking. More info is needed, like was that condenser leak caused by a landscaping tool? Those are typically easier to fix than just an area of copper that has just weakened…
@troyfall6573 Жыл бұрын
That R-410A cost them less than $15/lb yet they charge over $100 lb. Check out Ability Refrigerants out of Texas. I bought a 2lb container of R22 for $100 with free shipping. Local HVAC guy wanted to mark up the R22 to $215/lb, charge me $99 for service call that included no labor and then $140/hr with 2hrs labor. Would have cost me $800 to install 2lbs. I paid a tech on the side $150 and he was done in less than 60 minutes including time to check for leaks.
@ramseytrain Жыл бұрын
us poor people would send you on the way, and fix it our self like we done before, were not going to pay 3 to 4 times more for a part and the repairs to pay for the owner of the company million dollar home. squirt some joy dish washing liquid on the coil and fix the leak. or it could be a crappy thermostat, u can pick up a new unit $1200-1700 for a HP model.
@Salyers-Family-2004 Жыл бұрын
Maybe I’m not charging enough for my refrigerant. Haha.
@saltvpn671 Жыл бұрын
100 bucks a lbs for 410a is robbery. I would keep that to myself in the future. lmao
@Salyers-Family-2004 Жыл бұрын
@@saltvpn671 I thought it was high as well. It’s okay to make a little money but that’s high.
@saltvpn671 Жыл бұрын
@@Salyers-Family-2004 They paid 18-20 bucks a pound for 410. Tops.
@WhateverwecancatchwithJC25 Жыл бұрын
What is the model of the leak detector?
@Havoc4Hire Жыл бұрын
Fieldpiece DR82
@WhateverwecancatchwithJC25 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@tymitunie4892 Жыл бұрын
Great job.
@t911p9u1 Жыл бұрын
Customer should always make the choice. I give them all the options and all of the info. Explain the risk of repair vs replacement. Working for a company puts limitations on what I’m allowed to fix. Not one company I work for has let me fix anything involving aluminum.
@boywhohadatiger Жыл бұрын
If it’s leaking in condenser/evap and I can’t patch it or repair it’s time for a new one. When electrical components fail boards relays contractors etc that’s small compared to compressors coils and fans and blowers
@jasonphippen1472 Жыл бұрын
Love your approach to the situation brother! Keep it up!
@genefoster8601 Жыл бұрын
Replacement coil at that cost. Should be no more expensive than a heater core in a vehicle. Somebody's getting ripped off.
@jfjhtfghgfhgf Жыл бұрын
We charge 50 bucks a pound. So right there by then using me they are saving 400 dollars just in Freon cost. Biggest problem in the industry now is these scammer sales companies quoting you such a high repair price you have no choice but to swap the system. Or else ur gna have to take a chance and pay another service call to another company and hope they aren’t scammers also. That’s around a 850 dollar max job completed. Fix the leak pull vacuum and pump it back to perfect. And clean the coil with a hose and pump out and flush the drain for them on the way out.
@SlipFitGarage Жыл бұрын
14 years old still seems new to me. I put in a new unit at my house after removing the 34 year old unit THAT STILL WORKED. In fact, it was still keeping the house cool until the morning when the HVAC guys arrived to install the new unit. lol. These things cost too much to just keep replacing them all the time. lol.
@cruz47144 Жыл бұрын
HVAC is such a raquet. They are always selling new equipment. to the customer
@larryarizala847 Жыл бұрын
Hello I am new in the trade and was wondering why it was short cycling was it going off of a low pressure switch or was the compressor getting too hot so it went off on a thermal overload?
@zack9912000 Жыл бұрын
The low pressure switch was tripping open dropping open, droppinge contactor, turning it off. That is a real common place for those to leak. Easy repair.
@carlosbarcelo201011 ай бұрын
❤Coil leak, Evap leak replace defently replace ❤
@DubYaJsWorld Жыл бұрын
I love how everyone is a super tech in the comments. All these guys saying that could repair it in an hour. These same techs never use a monometer to check static pressure, don't even change a speed tap or dip switch on a blower, will undersize duct and tie flex straight to the cabinet with no plenum. Now everyone is going above and beyond on a leaking condenser coil🤦🏾♂️ give me a break
@anthonys6187 Жыл бұрын
Had a 17 year old unit today, bad txv, leak in coil r22, homeowner is moving in 2 months so they would rather have txv fixed than new unit
@cameron3991 Жыл бұрын
MRCOOL DIY Universal 5 Ton 54,000 BTU 17 SEER Split System AC with 25 ft. NoVac Install Kit 208/230-Volt They have DIY units you can buy this is a 5 ton system that would cool roughly 2,500-3,000 sqft they have other units that come pre packaged with an air handler as well for easy DIY install. If your mechanically inclined and can follow directions you can replace the system yourself with 10 year warranty and it costs roughly 3,500$-6,000$ for the system depending on the size and brand. Trane and Carrier make similar units. This exact one I put on here will cool 2,500-3,000sqft. 5,400$ with 10 year parts (I’m a commercial HVAC tech) a lot of people don’t know they sell these systems and you don’t need an EPA license to replace or install because the line set is pre charged and you won’t be dealing with refrigerant
@leardi58 Жыл бұрын
What is the best chemicals to use to clean the outside fins thanks I know it foams but there are so many to choose from
@ParabellumX Жыл бұрын
Gotta give 'em the Big 3: Good, Better, or Best units available for changeout. Everyone loves options. 😏
@rokashi2104 Жыл бұрын
I would check the indoor coil too , just to see the condition of it ,and then give options
@HVACTechTips Жыл бұрын
Yes! great thinking. I did check the indoor coil as well as the furnace. There will be a full length video of this call coming out soon. Hope you subscribed so you can be notified when it comes out🤞🏼
@JoeGarcia-cg1pp Жыл бұрын
Id run a comercial grade stop leak in that Mug as long as freon psi is 10- 12 psi or greater ive fixed units with nu calgon upto 5 tons blue stop leak fairly easy
@kirkbethune682 Жыл бұрын
50 year Co would say repairs make money
@prototype_0xD1 Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure a new unit today is worth more than a solder job. Everything is swap now.
@GrowinwithAJ Жыл бұрын
my ac been down for 3 weeks and been told about 6 different things. cant trust anyone these days they want to replace instead of fix
@carlosbarcelo201011 ай бұрын
❤Repair ❤❤❤
@larrysnoddy4604 Жыл бұрын
Just get a window unit
@ebuzek3648 Жыл бұрын
Aluminum has no place in a/c
@jtalonrider4769 Жыл бұрын
That coil is cooper
@jfjhtfghgfhgf Жыл бұрын
@@jtalonrider4769 it’s a aluminum spine fin coil. Not copper. It does have some copper connections tho
@kendallthomas4544 Жыл бұрын
what gauges are you using?
@eshskis1 Жыл бұрын
1st. Question where is the leak ?
@JamesSmith-fi5sn Жыл бұрын
Agree! I'm bias though I hate those units and those coils. On a serious note though if they don't replace they will be dumping money in it every year after about 12 years.
@RobertAziz26 Жыл бұрын
$100 lb for 410. Dam what’s the price for 22 🤔
@kameljoe21 Жыл бұрын
It does not cost that much. It cost 450 dollars for a 25 lbs canister. This guy is robbing people blind.
@modquad18 Жыл бұрын
Seems like you could recover the refrigerant and repair the leak. Unit may only need a couple lbs of R. How much would it cost for you to install a new comparable system?
@HVACTechTips Жыл бұрын
The customer actually went with the repair (video coming out soon). It ended up being around 2,800 for everything.
@Sidfields789 Жыл бұрын
@@HVACTechTipsI don't question the 2800 dollar repair, but the unit is old. When the next repair occurs , you could have applied the 2800 to a new unit plus the cost of the next repair. It happened to me. Better to replace any unit over 12 years old in my opinion.
@fredkuhn165 Жыл бұрын
“Got my probe set up inside”. Just admitted bending the customer over
@HVACTechTips Жыл бұрын
🤣
@paulcoulter7181 Жыл бұрын
I would an have repaired the leak. It’s real easy on the train units. I use the aluminum brazing rods from Home Depot an a Mickey Mouse torch that they sell there rather my portable torch.
@lyfandeth Жыл бұрын
Sounds like he plans to flush the refrigerant with refrigerant, doubling the price of the already overpriced stuff.
@jbsimmons54 Жыл бұрын
Why is the fan motor reversing like that on the condenser?
@perry2281 Жыл бұрын
thanks..easy fix. 600 bucks.
@LivingPositive50 Жыл бұрын
Repair the leak Sir, no Warranty. 🤟
@RobertAziz26 Жыл бұрын
Soap bubbles. See how big leak is. If small Ez seal and keep it moving. If not let them replace it.
@mainj54 Жыл бұрын
So you replace it with an aluminum micro channel condensing unit and keep your fingers crossed.
@tedhicks5431 Жыл бұрын
I hate to give folks the bad news not to long ago lost engine in my exscursion it was my turn
@jyesucevitz Жыл бұрын
how old was the unit? what was the warranty on the unit?
@HonshuHigamori Жыл бұрын
There's realistically only 3 levels of repairs that can be performed in these situations. 1): Apply leak sealant to the unit and then top it off with refrigerant. "Leak sealant" is just my term for the dozens of products out there designed to be injected into the refrigerant lines, which then circulates and attempts to seal upon encountering leaks by way of chemical reaction. This is the cheapest repair option, but it is also impossible to guarantee a fix, because these leak seal chemical products are always a crap shoot, as sometimes leaks are too large for them to seal. 2): Find and manually repair the leaks by way of brazing. This can be manpower intensive and depending on how many and where the leaks are, it can be unrealistic. An old 410a condenser coil is likely to be riddled with small leaks because of the high pressures the refrigerant works at, which means repairing them can be like trying to fill all the holes of a solid block of swiss cheese. At that point, replacement of the condenser coil is the only cost effective option, and it still costs (between manpower and material) anywhere from half to 2/3rds as much as replacing the entire unit. 3): Full replacement of the evaporator and condenser coils. This is the easiest to warranty, the most expensive, and makes the most money for the service technician and the company he is a part of, so guess which option you as the customer is going to be sold? I myself have extended the life of many units by applying option #1, and as long as the customer understands its the equivalent of an EMT using a defibrillator to try to get a car crash victim back to life, a simple hail mary that may work or may not, then it can do a lot of good for customers on a budget.
@jamelcroley4562 Жыл бұрын
You are a lazy tech.
@ReeleKool Жыл бұрын
Your over thinking it,,,, Trane has a repair kit for that leak. since 2005.... Dont be a tourist in your own trade...
@bobb7918 Жыл бұрын
This guy is not a tech. He is a salesman.
@johna671911 ай бұрын
What leak detector is that
@brianking7722 Жыл бұрын
ok so i have a 4 ton ac and a 2,000 sq ft house I drop it 3 degrees and it wont get to the temp I put it at. No leak idk what to do
@Gsxforsale Жыл бұрын
Awww come on. It’s not that low.
@joeybart1776 Жыл бұрын
Low pressure switch- system has leak
@user-vl5xe2ro1k Жыл бұрын
I need someone in the LA area to check my AC unit.
@pauljoey7977 Жыл бұрын
This guy will treat u like my step son. Right in the homosapien
@damnitdang Жыл бұрын
Taxing on the freon😂
@malcolm8564 Жыл бұрын
These things need replacing after just 14 years? That's appalling.
@sumdumguy4659 Жыл бұрын
it's 10 yrs on new equipment now...
@ahyaok100 Жыл бұрын
@@sumdumguy4659 I have ones from the early 90's running like tops
@ThqRula Жыл бұрын
A leak causes short cycles?
@stevestadinko6045 Жыл бұрын
I remember as a kid, our 15 year old refrigerator had a leak. There was a repairman there all day fixing it while I watched. It was a $250 refrigerator. You seriously going to scullfuck that customer so you can sell them a new unit?
@fairairrepair3785 Жыл бұрын
Solder the weld on it. And make a happy customer
@HNIC86 Жыл бұрын
Hmmm 🤔🤔🤔 that could be fixable especially if the unit is not that old.
@Mrheatpump Жыл бұрын
Any it’s not that low either. Liquid pressure is pretty decent.
@HVACTechTips Жыл бұрын
😂
@manhpham8052 Жыл бұрын
Replace is it, save u a bunch of headaches and customer has new system with all the warranty
@Az-hn7xi Жыл бұрын
if it was copper i would repair it. but I wont touch aluminum.. manufacturers fault right there.