WOW. Kramnik Goes After Hikaru On Cheating At Chess

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WOW. Kramnik Goes After Hikaru On Cheating At Chess

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WOW. Vladimir Kramnik Goes After Hikaru Nakamura On Cheating At Chess.
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@colinmunro2632 9 ай бұрын

Kramnik just blundered his position on anti cheating.

@michaelschaetzle2903 9 ай бұрын

Well spoken!

@finlayson6868 9 ай бұрын

To drive home how ridiculous these accusatations are: With a 400 rating difference, Hikaru is expected to win ~91% of his games. So the question becomes, how likely is it that a 91% likely event happens 45/46 times? The answer is ~1.5 %. While 1.5% might seem low at first, consider how many tens of thousands of games Hikaru has played. The odds of him going on a streak like this is almost a statistical certainty. It would be suspicious if he DIDN'T have a streak like this some where.

@karlralph2003 9 ай бұрын

the rating difference should be higher too cause he's playing against ims and fms. the actual ratings should be used

@tims8220 9 ай бұрын

that would make too much sense from the salty grandpa @@karlralph2003

@garyconnors2104 9 ай бұрын

Great analysis. Hikaru has played scores (if not hundreds) of sessions with roughly 46 games against opposition at this levels. Sooner or later, something like this is bound to happen. We are too quick to play the cheater card to explain unusual outcomes. Hikaru himself has played the cheater card to explain the unusual. Given enough chances, unusual outcomes will occur. Be careful playing the cheater card to explain the unusual.

@Deadmazter 9 ай бұрын

@@SwampCritter-df4od you tried

@Nam_Le4 9 ай бұрын

Hikaru is expected to play better in 91% of his games rather than winning though bc u can probably play dirty and flagging in 9% of the losing positions.

@woah9122 9 ай бұрын

So Hikaru can look at chat, play chess against strong players, AND look at stockfish all at the same time while crushing (almost) everyone? That’s pretty impressive to do all at once

@BG-mw5pt 9 ай бұрын

at this level you only need to see the move that gets you out of a jam, not all sequence of moves. that's how the accusation against hans started, he wasn't accused of getting all moves cheated to him, but getting a signal if in certain situations he needs to look for a 'brilliant' move or not. in any case, lots of streaming personalities came out in defence of hikaru, from gm hansen (chessbrah) to this guy.

@Viewer13128 9 ай бұрын

@@BG-mw5pt yes, but none of this applies if you just watch THIS short video explaining how the discussion of "1 move" cheating isn't even relevant in this accusation. this accusation is just plain lazy homework by kramnik. it's like googling some random title, not reading the book, and submitting your assignment. that's what kramnik did here.

@KumarBendrake 9 ай бұрын

That's exactly what I was thinking. Hikaru must be abusing superpowers to either stop or slow down time. Allowing him to have a snack, analyze games, and calculate human-looking moves without any of us knowing.

@parthsavyasachi9348 9 ай бұрын

Whats good for hans good for hikaru, magnus and others. You don't need to get hint for all moves, just one is enough. This is why don't accuse if there is no proof.

@parthsavyasachi9348 9 ай бұрын

@@KumarBendrakethats nothing if people think hans had supercomputer sitting with him against magnus in on the board game.

@itsandreigoja 9 ай бұрын

If you look at those games even against IM and FMs which he mostly played his accuracy is way below that of a machine, I think everyone knows Hikaru would never cheat, he has too much respect for himself and the game.

@ericiverson3441 9 ай бұрын

Innocent until proven guilty.

@uduehdjztyfjrdjciv2160 9 ай бұрын

He could cheat, to equalize chances, because so many people cheating in cheating tuesday. Consider how many guys like lazovik in online chess, who suck OTB, but great in online, cheater amount in chess is big. It's not only Kramnik, Caruana also disappointed why he sucked so much more in online than OTB.

@stevenglikin3219 9 ай бұрын

@@ericiverson3441 bro this isn't a court of law

@juliocadavid6640 9 ай бұрын

Naka would never bro, i'm not his fanboy. He would never, his ego wouldnt allow it. Like, he has played 21k games, how can someone not believe, someone at his calliber, has reached this level of play after so many games. He's mastered the online blitz, he flows. I still think magnus is the best, but the consistency and calculation of Naka's, makes me doubt a bit. What a player

@BenHyle 9 ай бұрын

@@juliocadavid6640 Ego is literally a huge driver for people to cheat.

@antonioluizrebellodemendon4622 9 ай бұрын

Kramnik is getting paranoic. I don't like Hikaru, but The accusation is absurd. Hikaru is one of the Best blitz players of all time.

@screamer22222 9 ай бұрын

I agree, also, cheating in blizz would be extradifficuot consider how little time you have to make the moves, right?

@ophello 9 ай бұрын

Wtf is “paranoic”?

@leeboy29680-ol7gf 9 ай бұрын

shit man, how can you not like hikaru?

@Narrowcros 9 ай бұрын

Exactly, i dont like Hikis arrogance or his poor explanation if games but you still respect his play. Kramnik has been out of it for a while now

@SmugAmerican 9 ай бұрын

It's not arrogance, its autism.

@BigBSinclair 9 ай бұрын

Wasn't Kramnik the guy who was suspected of cheating when he kept going to the washroom after every move in a World Championship match? Against Topalov I believe.

@Grandcapi 9 ай бұрын

Yes, the "bathroom scandal"...

@gregpeterson3144 9 ай бұрын

2006, he went to bathroom 40 times per game, and the match was in Russia...so the other team asked for a room inspection, for cables etc

@georgitodorov4048 9 ай бұрын

Its the same sub human scum

@ricolorenz7307 3 ай бұрын

😂 😂 😂

@wnp22 9 ай бұрын

He's owning IM's and FM's at 78-82% accuracy levels. Hardly the trail of a cheater. In fact he's playing down to their level and still tactically crushing them. PUZZLE RUSH!

@Philiopantheon82 9 ай бұрын

Hikaru is a beast in speed chess, specifically bullet and 3min blitz format. Magnus had his testimony in that just a few months ago. And as you have shown in this video, the majority of those winning streaks were against IM, and Hikaru can adopt each and every one of them without actually playing perfect accurate games of chess. Kramnik is knocking on the wrong door here, I am afraid. Thanks for clearing the mud for us epic chess. Cheers

@arkzbh 9 ай бұрын

Ian tweeted a while back about Hikar wearing headphones. He is clearly supporting Kramnik's garbage

@Damienahughes 9 ай бұрын

I appreciate that your headline is "hikaru accused of cheating" and not "hikaru cheating?!?"

@dillydilly8739 9 ай бұрын

I'd like to see Hikaru reply with a very serious "Chess speaks for itself... Kramnik, you should know this." and bust out laughing.

@RT-hh3vl 9 ай бұрын

"Cheating? Really? Cheating? Come on, I mean, come on.... noodles speak for themselves guys!"

@bunhead8 9 ай бұрын

I have always thought your videos were extremely balanced and this didn't disappoint, I like the analysis of how crazy his game was against the GM, pretty funny.

@epicchess2021 9 ай бұрын

Much appreciated!

@CarpetBombComic 9 ай бұрын

You can watch Hikaru's video of him hitting the ELO milestone in real time AND making blunders, getting ticked at himself for it... As you said, lots of human moves and mistakes. He's planning in real time. A shame that Vladimir would seem to target him...

@KNNY61 9 ай бұрын

Vladimir used to have people's respect. This is going to end badly for him.

@EdMcF1 9 ай бұрын

Problem with cheating in blitz is that the time taken to cheat simply isn't there. Someone needs to feed it back into your butt or wherever by entering the moves into an engine and get the code right.

@darthkek1953 9 ай бұрын

Wrong.

@kamilhorvat8290 9 ай бұрын

It's not that difficult to figure out position of pieces from broadcast using image recognition techniques. Then feed it to engine and transmit best move using to players butt plug via 433mhz radio. Butt plug will vibrate the move in morse code. This kind of cheating might be even very enjoyable :-)

@aVeryRealGoose 9 ай бұрын

At this level though you wouldn't need to cheat every move, Hikaru is absurdly strong regardless and has said himself that a strong player would just need to know they have an advantage to make them start looking for that killer move they could have otherwise missed. All that being said, this accusation is ridiculous Hikaru surely isn't cheating.

@davidc5191 9 ай бұрын

These are casual games so a cheater can have a computer program running simultaneously on another screen that he can refer to. But in tournament online games, the players have to set up a camera in their room showing the computer and screen that they're watching. These secondary shots can be monitored by arbiters.

@wtfskilz 9 ай бұрын

He also used to cam his screens, he obviously will do it again.

@ferventheat 9 ай бұрын

Hikaru was in the Zone , like sports players can quite regularly. When he's relaxed and buzzing, he's at his best.

@gavinburns6994 9 ай бұрын

Problem is people who are super good at chess like Kramnik dont have even most basic people skills. Anyone who has followed Nakamura or watched his stream for a time know he is not a cheater! Yes, he really IS that good!

@garylake1676 9 ай бұрын

It's good to see that I am not the only player with the eval bar going up and down like a yo-yo in a 60% to 70% game!

@adrianburgundy1232 9 ай бұрын

Kramnik and Karjakin are two people you cant take serious anymore. Two clowns when they're not at a chess table

@drnantz 9 ай бұрын

Imagine the extra time required to cheat.

@screamer22222 9 ай бұрын

@@drnantzyeah, exactly

@ophello 9 ай бұрын

*seriously

@PeteQuad 9 ай бұрын

He's cheating by having the computer tell him how to flag someone with 1 second on the clock.

@gregpeterson3144 9 ай бұрын

and if you google "Kramnik toiletgate"...a bit of history

@DiamondDaveX 9 ай бұрын

The real shame is that this sort of noise against a legitimately strong player undermines the crusade to root out cheating in online chess. Kramnik shot himself in the foot here a bit I feel.

@blaze1148 9 ай бұрын

.....as if Hans Neiman isn't a _legitimately strong player_ 😆

@thebcwonder4850 9 ай бұрын

@@blaze1148 who has also cheated

@blaze1148 9 ай бұрын

@@thebcwonder4850 so what is your evidence apart his own admission that he cheated online 4 years ago....certainly no evidence he cheated when he played Magnus OTB....

@thebcwonder4850 9 ай бұрын

@@blaze1148 he’s been a titled player since 2014… I’d assume cheating after that would be a red flag

@szsolzel 9 ай бұрын

@@blaze1148 With anal beads Hans Niemann definitely is a _legitimately strong player_ :)))))

@Christoff070 9 ай бұрын

"My 50 most memorable accusations" - Kramnik

@epicchess2021 9 ай бұрын

haha

@Christoff070 9 ай бұрын

@@epicchess2021 😆 😂

@KNNY61 9 ай бұрын

😄😄

@bamdad19996 9 ай бұрын

Hikaru is the last person that would cheat in chess. Kramnik is pathetic at this point

@c2c001 9 ай бұрын

You mean, Pathetic is Kramnik at this point =]

@ItIsYouAreNotYour 9 ай бұрын

But Hans is because he smacked Magnus around OTB.

@blaze1148 9 ай бұрын

@@ItIsYouAreNotYour yup lol....that's what these dummies don't understand....shock horror some of the top players can actually beat Carlsen _without_ cheating.

@legrandliseurtri7495 9 ай бұрын

@@blaze1148 Hans isn't a top player, at least not on the level of Carlsen.

@spinblade6459 9 ай бұрын

Plus he's a guy, Kramnik, who's been accused of cheating himself and knows how that can tar someone for years, decades or life... and yet just blithely throws random paranoid shit at other people, seeing what will stick.

@claudebeazley 9 ай бұрын

The worst you can accuse Hikaru of is spawn camping.

@olafslartibartfast5248 9 ай бұрын

Some people cannot handle when they loose (a game or a presidency, for example). By ventilating their frustrations, they most of the time destroy all the respect they gained in the past.

@thewarlordscalling6537 9 ай бұрын

Veselin Topalov's accusations against Kramnik had more weight than Kramnik's case against Hikaru.😢

@dickmacgurn590 9 ай бұрын

Kramnik, the same guy who says players shouldn't use flagging to win lol

@CastawayHikes 9 ай бұрын

The accusation is laughable

@Cynicalgeek743 9 ай бұрын

Yet again, honest commentary from a fantastic channel. Not afraid to say it how it is.I respect Kramnik immensely but he called it incorrectly in this instance

@epicchess2021 9 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot and yeah same

@Beachdude67 9 ай бұрын

Theres no way to stop cheating and at the GM level, its impossible to detect. Chess is now officially dead. RIP.

@Daniel-qx6bg 9 ай бұрын

If the best blitz player in the world does not crush IMs and FMs like that, I would be shocked.

@80-80. 9 ай бұрын

Amazing how hard Kramnik is working to ruin his own legacy.

@freeWizard 9 ай бұрын

discovered your account while searching for Hikaru videos. Really liked the video, keep up ! And keep up exposing "Big Bad Vlad" 😂😂

@tarico4436 9 ай бұрын

Solution: X-rays. If we can see beads down there, then we can presume cheating.

@epicchess2021 9 ай бұрын

😂

@tarico4436 9 ай бұрын

@@epicchess2021 Magnus accusing the way he did was in bad form. Then the next guy who beat him was wearing a watch and beads on his wrist, and Magnus alluded to the earlier cheating. Either I'm missing something, or these accusations are ludicrous.

@JS_Precision 9 ай бұрын

Pretty silly imo. Hikaru can smash IMs all day, as well as a lot of strong GMs. Cheating is a real threat though, stronger players just need the eval bar to see when they need to stop and think. Kramnik seems to have gone a bit too far on his anti cheating crusade.

@olivercarlehed 9 ай бұрын

Kramnik went a lil too far 😂

@rodafowa1279 9 ай бұрын

Kramnik hitting that Krokodil.....or copious amounts of Vodka or something.

@stephenr80 9 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@neritank5883 9 ай бұрын

niiice hahahahahaa

@supernoobsmith5718 9 ай бұрын

Deeper story here. BIG BUSINESS doesn't want to accept a very big FACT. Online chess can NEVER be legitimized. Big business doesn't want to admit that. That's what the Hans accusations were really about. To give the appearance that it's all clean and they're on top of it. Only a FOOL would think you can control online cheating. But that illusion needs to be there in order people to trust it enough for business to move forward with it's exploitative plans, which really amount to a gambling scheme.

@ZdenekMicke69 9 ай бұрын

I understand your concerns about online chess and its susceptibility to cheating. There is no doubt that cheating is a problem in online chess, and it is difficult to prevent completely. However, I believe that it is possible to take steps to reduce cheating and make online chess more legitimate. One important step is to have strong anti-cheating measures in place. This includes things like using chess engines to detect suspicious moves, requiring players to use webcams, and banning players who are caught cheating. It is also important to create a culture of fair play in the online chess community. This means encouraging players to report cheating, and punishing players who are caught cheating. Finally, it is important to remember that online chess is still a relatively new game, and it is still evolving. As the game matures, I believe that it will become more difficult to cheat, and online chess will become more legitimate. Of course, there will always be some level of cheating in any competitive activity, including chess. But I believe that it is possible to make online chess a fair and legitimate game, and I hope that the chess community will continue to take steps to do so. As for the Hans Niemann accusations, I believe that they were a necessary step in addressing the problem of cheating in online chess. The accusations forced the chess community to confront the issue of cheating, and they led to a number of important changes being made to online chess platforms. I believe that the chess community is committed to making online chess a fair and legitimate game, and I am confident that we will continue to make progress in this area. In conclusion, I believe that online chess can be legitimized, but it will require a concerted effort from the chess community. We need to take strong anti-cheating measures, create a culture of fair play, and continue to evolve the game. I am confident that we can make online chess a fair and enjoyable game for all.

@Career_SA 9 ай бұрын

kramnik accused Hans few weeks ago now it is Hikaru. he doesn't like to loose like that

@martin_schwarz 9 ай бұрын

Pure statistics: The chance to win 1 game against an opponent with 400 ELO points less than you is 90.9% The chance to win more than 35 of 46 games is 99.77%. The chance to win exactly x of 46 games is the highest for x=42 with 20.35%. The chance to win exactly 46 games is 1.24%. But the chance of winning exactly 37 games is almost the same with 1.38% and in this case noone would accuse anyone...

@Ayatron34 9 ай бұрын

By overreaching like this, Kramnik is undoing alot of the good work he's done to expose cheating in Titled Tuesday. A shame.

@davidhughes4785 9 ай бұрын

Im rated negative 200. But I have opinions, same as you. Hikaru like many chess masters has internalized chess board, all pieces, many openings and top variations. From casually watching Hikaru’s videos competing online, it seems Hikaru is able to make great chess moves in fractions of a second. Not sure, but in some speed matches, he might pre-move to save time when he has seconds on his clock. Some people have incredible skills in their professions, and Hikaru is one of them. I don’t think Hikaru is cheating in his speed chess matches. Possibly top masters, practice against chess engines in their spare time, to increase their skills and develop their own engine-like style. And what is most fun for me, is to see when Hikaru or Magnus are playing in a tournament, and their moves are being evaluated by a chess engine-showing their choice of moves to be poor choices. Then they defeat their opponent-showing they know some things that chess engines don’t know, in limited time format. Hikaru is not cheating in speed chess matches! Chess masters like Magnus and Hikaru have not only learned many openings and variations-twenty moves deep, they also have internalized mid game strategy as well as end game strategies. When I take ten minutes to do a blunder, chess greats can play multiple matches in blink of an eye!

@essien5985 9 ай бұрын

Hikaru's big EGO cannot let him cheat

@sergiyvelytskyy2425 9 ай бұрын

Kramnik was a student at the Humanities Institute of Novgorod State University, but was expelled due to systematic non-attendance and academic debt. Math and statistics are certainly not for Kramnik; they are are much hsrder comparing to moving pieces along a 64-square board.

@000aleph 9 ай бұрын

I keep noticing how paranoid chess players are, often levelling accusations based on the flimsiest of evidence. I don't think they're necessarily very bright outside of their narrow specialty.

@josephcallahan1664 9 ай бұрын

Hikaru and most GMs have too much respect for the game to ever cheat. Hikaru would rather quit chess outright than cheat from what I have seen of him. His play is impressive, though.

@karlcardona8381 9 ай бұрын

Live by the sword, die by the sword...Hikari Nakamura seemed to have no problems going along with all the accusations vs Hans Niemann, and not giving him any benefit of the doubt...

@carlingtonme 9 ай бұрын

Just because unmitigated nonsense comes from a once great GM doesn't make it anything but unmitigated nonsense..I'm surprised at Nepo buying in,too

@carlingtonme 9 ай бұрын

I might add when Hans beat Magnus he was unable to explain the moves he had just made;this accusation is rubbish

@jpalioto1 9 ай бұрын

Unfortunately, Kramnik does not really understand the numbers and statistics that he’s seeing. So he’s drawing incorrect conclusions. Hikaru is going insane guns over the board as well as online. Zero chance he is cheating.

@strong8705 9 ай бұрын

Bobby went crazy, they say. Mark of a genius. This, however, is 1/1 nuts. Rubinstein got sick of chess too.

@zvonimirtosic6171 9 ай бұрын

Kramnik is listening way too much of "Black Sabbath", their second album 'Paranoid' has stuck in his head. 🙂

@odomisan 9 ай бұрын

Come on, we all know Hikaru have stockfish on the ceiling 🙄

@zaphod333 9 ай бұрын

Statistics are difficult and sanity is precious.

@epicchess2021 9 ай бұрын

😂 I like that

@ZdenekMicke69 9 ай бұрын

Probability of a single win: With a 91% expected win rate, the probability of Hikaru winning a single game is 0.91. Probability of 45 wins: To calculate the probability of Hikaru winning 45 out of 46 games, we need to consider the probability of winning each game independently. Since each game is independent of the others, we can multiply the probability of winning a single game by itself 45 times: 0.91 * 0.91 * ... (45 times) Probability of 1 loss: Since there is one loss in this scenario, we need to multiply the probability of winning 45 times by the probability of losing once. The probability of losing is the complement of the probability of winning, which is 1 - 0.91 = 0.09. (0.91 * 0.91 * ... (45 times)) * 0.09 Approximate calculation: To simplify the calculation, we can use the binomial approximation. The binomial approximation allows us to approximate the probability of a binomial event, which is a sequence of independent trials with two possible outcomes (e.g., win or loss). Using the binomial approximation, the probability of Hikaru winning 45 out of 46 games is approximately 0.015 or 1.5%. Context and interpretation: While 1.5% might seem low at first, it's important to consider the context of this scenario. Hikaru is a world-class chess player, and it's not uncommon for players at his level to go on long winning streaks against lower-rated opponents. Moreover, Hikaru has played tens of thousands of games throughout his career, so it's statistically likely that he would experience a streak like this at some point.

@epicchess2021 9 ай бұрын

That was highly interesting to read, thanks!Gotham mentioned the same on his video just now said about 2% likelihood , stats can be so misleading at times as well, only need to use your eyes and watch his stream to see he didn’t cheat!

@roqsteady5290 9 ай бұрын

Crying wolf too often isn’t going to further his cause and didn’t Kramnik himself once get accused of using a mobile phone in the lavatory? So he must know how that feels.

@ricardoguzman5014 9 ай бұрын

Absolute nonsense. There are so many metrics to consider when identifying a cheater. Kramnik cites ONE statistic and runs with it. Good thing he's a chess player and not a statistician because he would be unemployed.

@johnproton259 9 ай бұрын

Hikaru would never need to cheat to beat Kramdick. That's just ridiculous. That said, I bet he feels what Hans was feeling when he got accused by Carlsen. Hikaru jumped in on that and stomped all over Hans so what goes around, comes around. That's my two cents worth. Nepo is a wally. There's another two cents worth. 😅

@user-xx8cy3gu5p 9 ай бұрын

Hans is an admitted serial cheater john

@martenhernebring 9 ай бұрын

How is admitting to cheating twice in his life serial when he was 12 and 16 years old?

@johnproton259 9 ай бұрын

@@user-xx8cy3gu5p you're talking about how he keeps cheating on you with your wife?

@kewkabe 9 ай бұрын

Old Man Kramnik is just bitter he's lost his mojo.

@angryoldcanadian3905 9 ай бұрын

all those games were vs FM / IM's. It doesn't surprise me that Hikaru won that many in a row. He is rated almost 400 points higher. Hikaru is probably the best speed chess player in the world. As much as I appreciate Kramniks games, he is wrong with this accusation.

@willpanter209 9 ай бұрын

Sad what some people are making chess out to be. He must have missed Hikaru performance last tilted Tuesday :/ also he live streams a lot of his games so I’m confused 😂

@David-by8ev 9 ай бұрын

Kramnik and his super-ego became a joke...

@rberryllefz 9 ай бұрын

Cant go to the toilets on Blitz, Kramnik.

@randallbrungardt6384 9 ай бұрын

With so few facts, there are endless plausible story lines. Choose your flavor.

@Electronite1978 9 ай бұрын

I think Hikaru posted today all of those games on his channel

@BobShenanigans 9 ай бұрын

Why is it that all of a sudden all non physical “e-sports” type games have all been hit with mass cheating scandals and mass paranoia of suspected cheaters. Even on a non competitive level, you can’t even play most multiplayer video games without running into a cheater or someone calling out a cheater. It’s just sad and I’m curious why cheating in online games is blowing up not just in chess but in all online multiplayer format games. I have no comments about the Hikaru kramnik drama

@kennethwoods6525 9 ай бұрын

"I'm enjoying this drama." LOL. Now that's the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth! 😅

@KvS1248 9 ай бұрын

Come on Kramnik, now you’re discrediting yourself

@drewsarkisian9375 9 ай бұрын

Kramnik is a frustrated old man.

@tonydavies3511 9 ай бұрын

Sounds like poor old Krammers is losing the plot as well as his games. Bow out gracefully mate; you're making a fool of yourself.

@chesneytube1 9 ай бұрын

When I first heard this I thought 'well why not it wouldn't surprise me' but once you went through all those games with the human accuracies and IM and FM opponents, what could Kramnik have possibly been thinking? Didn't he even bother to look at the games and opponents before making the claims?!? Very careless.

@TonBil1 9 ай бұрын

I've learned one can lie with statistics. Sorry, GM Kramnik.

@floeckchen666 9 ай бұрын

Love to see more chess news on your channel. Keep up your great work.

@Johnny_RB 9 ай бұрын

"...I'm enjoying this drama here..." LOL! BLOODY drama, it is.

@hellojam100 9 ай бұрын

this has to cast doubt on Kramnik's accusations against Hans

@desertedkoala 9 ай бұрын

Just watch Kramniks whole interview, that he gave to Levitov. It's one and a half hour of him explaining his position on the matter. He ends up saying that players who do not want to cheat are basically forced to cheat (even the strongest), because they are loosing places to some wierd players, who start to play 150% better against anyone, the moment they come close to prize money. Then he's saying that it is really a problem with a system, but nobody wants to admit it, because there's too much money involved and everything could go up in flames. And that he really feels bad for online chess, because it can potentially even destroy online chess events with money prizes. Also, he uses a smart and interesting method of gathering the information, which he explains ... obviously it's not a couple of games analysis😖 P.S.: he wanted somebody to do english subtitles on that video, so if they are not there already, they probably will be at some point in the future.

@KNNY61 9 ай бұрын

I think he is overstating the problem. At the HIGHEST levels, cheating will absolutely destroy one's career. Those guys would never risk a few thousand $$ prize to have their careers just destroyed.

@desertedkoala 9 ай бұрын

@@KNNY61 I think his concerns are legit. Maybe even too legit, if you know what I mean. But in all seriousness, it is obviously a complicated matter, with a lot of different nuances. For example I never thought about players that signed contracts by which they are obliged to play certain tournaments and their performance starts to drop drastically with no apparent reason. There's no point to pay them big money, if CM's blowing them off the board. So, that is another way to destroy your own career, maybe even the worst one, because, as it turns out, nobody will even know that you've cheated, if you'll just quietly agree to all conditions presented to you by the platform. The cool part, is that you don't even have to return the money. Just wait a couple of months, receive a new account, and you're back in business. In the end, it's all about getting that premium memberships from us and so on ... But they use that money for a good cause, doing good things for chess, so I guess it's ok? ... or is it? ... Who knows, but I can't help but feel sorry for the most players.

@iceyroo 9 ай бұрын

Huge blunder from Kramnik oof

@b3rno 9 ай бұрын

When people start accusing you of cheating then you know you doing something right in your life - the ULTIMATE compliment

@screamer22222 9 ай бұрын

I know right? I had a game (I'm just an humble 1000elo), where my opponent said I was cheating and menaced to report me. That felt so good 😁 (then I see the review and my accuracy was a sad 70%< and my opponent was just worst than me lol)

@SenatorBluto 9 ай бұрын

Great example of the silliness.

@saeadborji1464 9 ай бұрын

Not a Hikaru fan but.... Kramnik is the same guy who went to washroom 36 time during his game vs Topalov. The post-game analysis revealed his moves where top choice of Fritz. In those days Fritz was the only reputable chest program and there was no name of the SF or Komodo etc

@ZdenekMicke69 9 ай бұрын

Kramnik himself denied any wrongdoing and said that he had simply been suffering from a mild stomach bug. He also pointed out that he had always been known to go to the bathroom frequently during matches. In the end, there was no way to prove or disprove the allegations against Kramnik. The match was eventually finished, and Kramnik won the world championship title.

@jborn730 9 ай бұрын

Kramnik doing a Fischer.

@chrisy3514 9 ай бұрын

Yes the subset of games and opponents is of great importance. Hard to believe Hikaru would cheat. He is smart enough to cheat if he wanted to, but also smart enough not to! What does he have to gain with all that he has going? Doesn’t make sense.

@carlsanders7824 9 ай бұрын

He did not play different players, but often, the same players multiple games during this streak.

@meatonthetable1602 9 ай бұрын

Kramnik has completely lost his mind!! Theres certain people who just dont accuse of cheating ever and Naka is one of them....

@victorfinberg8595 9 ай бұрын

Hikaru: "nice day for farmin, innit ... hyuk, hyuk" (blatantly stolen from ...) _________________________ ?

@scottedmiston5850 9 ай бұрын

Underscores that there is no consensus methodology for discerning cheating in chess. The chess community has to get together with the data science community not to build ever more powerful engines, but to advance standards to authoritatively inform governance bodies.

@slightlyaboveavg 9 ай бұрын

Did anyone bother analyzing the 46 games to see how well the opponents played in those games?

@epicchess2021 9 ай бұрын

I dunno about analysing but Hikaru posted them all to his channel yesterday as a nearly 4 hour video in case you want to watch

@homeuser1478 9 ай бұрын

it's ridiculous to call someone who hasn't even won a single world blitz championship "number 1 blitz player"

@edabreu7871 9 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣 MAgnus started it!

@Malcolm.Y 9 ай бұрын

Oh boy. Another $150 Million defamation lawsuit.

@Paul-sl4gb 9 ай бұрын

Both Hikaru and Magnus cheat in online chess. They definitely have an eval bar in view sometimes and sometimes Magnus definitely has moves in view. You can see their reactions when they react without meaning to or they instantly look to see what they did wrong or missed before anything else has happened. Then they make some arbitrary comment about a pointless chat comment which they had to read out to justify looking at that screen. Magnus does it more than Hikaru but they definitely both do it. I still love them both though and they're clearly the best blitz players without cheating, but it's a competitive world.

@snowarmth 9 ай бұрын

The only thing I find strange about the game at 4:08 is that Hikaru ISN'T playing perfectly, and that can just be handwaved with his intuition being off.

@CWPWWRESTLING 9 ай бұрын

Why’s Kramnik trying to taint his reputation so bad

@pcorteen 9 ай бұрын

Kramnik did not mention Hikaru or cheating - maybe his message is whoa! really well done!

@Justaplebxd1998 9 ай бұрын

meanwhile hikaru could beat him while jaming to jazz

@tobiassimpson7438 9 ай бұрын

WTF, did Kramnik just need attention today ? Did he not get hugged as a child ? Here's a virtual hug for you Kramnik, you are not forgotten. Now, please, make some sense in the future.

@ModusOperandi2009 9 ай бұрын

In the words of Star Lord, Hikaru may be an a-hole, but he's not 100% a dick. 😛

@StephenBrennanGuitar 9 ай бұрын

Hikaru literally proves he's not cheating by commenting on positions as he plays and often highlighting multiple move options and their benefits in real time while playing. Claiming he's cheating is just idiotic - the evidence to the contrary is there in his streams

@sewshun5356 9 ай бұрын

At this point they’re using this cheating thing to advertise chess

@Trassik 9 ай бұрын

When in the world of "accusation" in any sphere, my first reaction to an accusation is to think that it is the accuser that is the one doing the action. We had this guy near where i live accusing lots of men of being child abusers, then the truth came iut and we all knew why he was fixated on that subject.

@bobeyay 9 ай бұрын

Kramnik's wording is a bit misleading, Hikaru had 45.5 POINTS out of 46, which means somewhere in the middle he drew, so its not 45 consecutive wins like the way Kramnik wants us to think. In fact its more like 30 ish. That said, the probability of Hikaru (3200 elo ish) winning 30 consecutive wins against players averaging 2950 elo is 0.058% (source just search elo calculation). Im gonna say while this is pretty low, its still in the realm of plausibility given that super GMs especially Hikaru played at least hundreds of games online every year. Which is why if you think it that way it will make much more sense that one of them would have this kind of win streak at some point in the history of online chess. But for the sake of simplicity lets just focus on Hikaru. If you filter his rated blitz games in which his opponent is at least 2700 elo from 21 November 2022 to 21 November 2023, you will see he played 3567 games. Im no mathematician but 3500 games is a lot of games for 30 win streak to occur. Even with broken math its still give Hikaru 6% ish chance (I just did (3567/30)*0.0058, which I know this is wrong so please probability experts if you be ever so kind to take over here). You can even check from his start of his account in chesscom in which he played 24k games rated blitz with 2700+ elo. Imma say 24k games is more that enough for a 30 win streak to occur, especially given the 9 years time frame. Also we're currently only counting Hikaru in specifically chesscom, we didn't even take into account games played by other super GMs on any online chess platform.

@jamesdelb6885 9 ай бұрын

Hikaru's not a cheater. Kramnik is losing it. He's too focused on cheating for his own good.

@ref8893 9 ай бұрын

Re. 'going after Hikaru' ...going after anyone with mere silly statistics is just bonkers. Same goes for Magnus et all regarding the over the board games of Niemann.