Ambrose was leaving anyway, so this wasn't the sole determinent. All it did was solidify the decision he had already made.

Vince has always operated by the principle of 'I would not ask you to do anything that I would not do myself', so it probably confused him that someone would not do something he asked.

At that point Moxley was already fed up with the bs WWE gave him. He likely just wanted to get out of there without further damaging his reputation. So he decided to not say that terrible line that would make him look like an Asshole on national TV and instead risked being fired which would only have meant he would have gotten an early out from his contract.

@CrustyOldBastard ...okay, most of the stuff that he would do lmao. I had mercifully forgotten about that titbit about Vinnie.

Vince and Roman faked the cancer to get sympathy from yall

Fatcs

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Totally and it's not that he has an issue with Hardy as Jeff's first WWE single title was the IC strap that was held by HHH so putting him over is not something he has a problem with. Like if I was a promoter I wouldn't have an issue with Hardy as world champ but putting the world title on him for an extended period like 6+ months is something I'd never do (because let's be real there's a very high change he'd either fail a drug test or get arrested) so I understand that in Triple H way of thinking putting the world tittle on Hardy would be amazing business wise on the short time but the likelihood of becoming a disaster on the long term is far too high. And when you see what happened at Victory Road you can't really blame him for having that opinion

@@ghislainlalande8277 one of the biggest Hardy Fans of all time and I’d say they should’ve atleast let him hold the title til Mania atleast I think they overreacted when they made him lose it only in a month

@@WhiteEyes33 I understand but unfortunately the cons far outweighs the pros. I can't blame them for being hesitant with him cause I'd be careful about it as well. Even in his feud with CM Punk they basically traded the Big Gold Belt and in the end Punk won the feud because you know that he's not going to fail a drug test or stuff like that.

There’s no sink outside my door…

@@SeRIoUSLyAC Dammit it man 🤣

@@SeRIoUSLyAC😂😂😂😂😂

id rather not lol

​@@SeRIoUSLyAC and he won that match!!!

But wap]hat before his drug issues came to light?

@@AshuriAurora Naa these guys travelled together most days of the year, no way Hardy could hide a drug problem in a famously drug riddled industry.

@@bluey1695 What I'm saying is he wasn't using his entire career. At what point was the above mentioned. Because there's "untrustworthy" and there's "addict untrustworthy".

“Repent, for the kingdom of Heaven is at hand” Matthew 3:2 ❤

The Jeff fact was misrepresented in this video, it was actually Vince that was hesitant to give Jeff the push, HHH stepped in and saved the title push by telling Vince to keep the story going but hold the title back, that's why every ppv Jeff was getting closer to the title but never winning it HHH wanted Jeff to win, and managed to help Jeff by prolonging the title win, that way Vince could make sure Jeff was free of toxins

I agree I can’t believe that happened!

Had that happened, I would’ve issued a public statement expressing how disappointed and angrily disgusted I would feel.

Vince mocked God, he berated and sexually harassed women, called Sabu a member of the taliban and used the N-word live on television. I’m pretty sure he gave no f**** about losing sponsors.

Like the cancer was ever real in the 1st place. You still believe it actually happened. Odd that it came when Roman was alwqysngettimg booed, them everyone loved him when he came back

I remember everyone in 2018 thinking it was a storyline that Roman had cancer, everyone call it fake on the comments, and I was like there’s no way you can fake cancer because that will leave a bad taste to the company, and a bad taste to all the peoples who are fighting each day to survive from cancer. The comments from Roman where disgusting 🤮 to me. Health problems isn’t meant to be play as a storyline

Except that Punk cries wolf and makes drama out of everything. He would make a cut on the finger sound bad. He sounds like a hypochondriac.

Glad you're okay now friend.

​@@dhenderson1810See the original comment.

I had a staph infection in my ankle as a teen and it nearly killed me.

They did her dirty in that second run. She was easily the best female wrestler on the roster at the time

Her last appearance in 2004 was helping Trish beat down Lita. Then they tell her "creative has nothing for you", when she was literally starting what Zoey Stark is doing now...

Both runs in WWE were bad. Watch her run on TNA. They allowed her to wrestle to her full potential and made her look like an actual star.

@@achimsinn6189 her feud with Awsome Kong was great.

Her TNA run is legendary

It literally explain why WWE went straight to hell creatively.

@@wadewilson8011 nah, no credit to Freddie, but it had already been horrible before he got there

I didn't even know this. Out of everything I just saw, Freddie Prinze Jr is what surprised me the most

Me too

Such as?

@@kissfanmac supposedly secrets about Vince McMahons and how things run in the company and backstage. Stuff that doesn't show WWE in a positive light

she keeps saying she wants to go back to wwe so she’s probably not gonna say anything until she truly makes up her mind. tbh i wouldn’t want her going back she just seems shady and annoying lately on social media always saying something wild to keep everyone’s attention. who knows if she actually went through anything the other female wrestlers went through with that creep and is just using his name to stay relevant.

@@jeanap256 that's true

Victory road shows this

Exactly. Triple H had every right to feel this way given Jeff Hardy's past and what he was still dealing with at that point.

​@@retronerds6884 can u stop bringing that shhhh up its old

@@samanthasims7123no it proves the point

@@samanthasims7123That shhhhh is not old. Jeff Hardy just returned to AEW in 2023 after dealing with drugs.

@Noah WWE may have wanted to avoid the phrase because of how often it *wasn't" logical for the person facing the champ to have earned the "number one contender" spot... WWE didn't bother to even the basic faking of any form of "realistic" ranking system. A wrestler could lose most of his matches, then suddenly be granted a title shot. A wrestler could lose to the champ, win nothing meaningful after, and still get the next title shot. Wrestlers would just demand title shots at will, and actually get them. Etc.

​@@BainesMkII and its become worse now that Part Timers can just show up and challenge for the main titles

It was HHH that saved Jeffs title win Vince was going to stop it, HHH convinced Vince to prolong the story so that Jeff could be assess and earn the title

The vid misrepresented Jeffs title win HHH didn't hold Jeff back, it was Vince who was going to stop the push, HHH stepped in saying to make Jeff earn the title, Jeff was given a "Not giving up" story that seen him metaphorically with his fingers on the title, but never able to win, this meant Vince could assess Jeffs toxins status while Jeff and HHH drew in viewers

Like you'd never complain about your job to whomever would listen.

@@LadyAstarionAncunin well. Depend of what's on. This one is justifiable

@@LadyAstarionAncunin sorry for 4 months late. still. Complaining is a right to every employee if things go beyond acceptable mark or the working environment wasn't safe enough. If I was a monster heel and they told me to take a jab at my rival's health condition or even his/her family, I would rather be a clown of mid-card locker room than doing such hideous act even if it could elevate my position to be the top heel.

this aged well…

Its a misrepresented fact, Vince was going to stop the push, HHH stepped in saying to prolong the push, and make Jeff earn it, Vince would assess Jeffs toxins, while Jeff and HHH drew in numbers

Yet Randy Orton still said the line about Eddie going to hell.

​slight difference between saying an already dead person is in hell and actively wishing for someone to die of cancer

I thought he was supposed to say that Roman was faking his illness

@@michaelhartman683 i don't think how it gonna trigger people considering how audience boos roman and they themselves were saying it's fake to get roman sympathy so if they used that line many would have believed Ambrose more

@thegameking3931 not true in the slightest because not everyone is an unfeeling sociopath and someone battling cancer isn't something that can or should be used for cheap heat so idk what your on but it's definitely stronger than crack

to be fair Vince and the writers not getting a gimmick describes the failing of a lot of charters, like it's been said that they reason they went the direction they did with the Bray Wyatt Fiend vs Randy Orton feud was that they just didn't understand the Fiend character and didn't know how to write/book storylines for it

Yes, although Matt would never have gotten the same creative freedem in WWE as in TNA.

Ultimate Deletion was great. Very entertaining. And I loved Broken Matt Hardy. He was incredibly over. I'm not sure what you mean.

@@KDB349 WWE screwed it up. The ones in TNA were much better,

I think Vince doesn't get women who aren't Blondes or Redheads

It's not even about being attractive, so many angles and gimmicks can be made about them. That he only bothers about (what he thinks is) being attractive shows how little he cares about female wrestlers with an actual personality.

@@satyakisil4289 It's been reported that Vince didn't want to put the title on Becky Lynch because " the fans don't find her ****able". And the only reason Bianca won the Royal Rumble was that someone reminded him "You want to make NEW stars right?"

@@shinrugal but I sees lot of thirsty comments on Becky Lynch like that and i taught that's the reason audience have thirst for her why Becky got 2 belts over other 2

People, I think even one was Johnny Ace, had to actually show Vince ASIAN P*RN to show him that YES people find women like Gail Kim attractive I’m not to sure on the Johnny part since he’s notoriously know for the hiring of female talent during the Diva era having turned down a Masked Lucha girl with the word Sexy in her name just because she wasn’t “that attractive” without her mask Instead hiring the likes of Kelly Kelly from model magazines who had zero athletic talent outside of maybe cheerleading …one has to wonder if they thought they could get a Kim Possible like character, even though 1-she’s a cartoon character and 2-she’s also a martial artists which WWE management hardly ever gives much credibility in their bubble anyways

He was leaving at the end of the contract regardless.

@@dhenderson1810 and he wasn't cuck like Rusev as he refuse to take part in storyline where his real life is involved showing Renee having affair with seth

Hhh wanted jeff to win Vince was going to stop the push HHH stepped in and said to prolong the story and title win, so that Vince could assess Jeffs toxins status

Especially at the royal rumble. That would defeat Edge's come back.

@@josiah3820 "Defeat" is such a strange word to use in that context. Why does Edge's comeback need to be defeated? 🤔

@@LadyAstarionAncunin lol I meant it lightly in the sense that it would be nice for it to be topped. Kinda like how we asked will John Cena's royal rumble return be topped and it was by Edge. So it's just exciting.

Ambrose returning would not Trump Edge's Rumble return. He is nowhere near as good.

@@josiah3820you mean to tell me Dean ambrose would one up Edge’s return 9 years after his retirement…

honestly it's kind of paints a disturbing picture of Vince when you realize at least half of this list are things that stem from him just being a nutjob and control freak

It was Vince who nearly stopped the push HHH saved Jeffs title win, HHH convinced Vince to prolong the story and assess Jeffs toxins status while Jeff earned the title

I think around the mid 2000s.

@@jaycerrito3142 crazy

Agreed. WWE went full throttle with Eddie and even if he would've wanted it, fans wouldn't. Bearer's passing was definitely handled a lot better

No argument there. Especially since he wanted to do a incest storyline where either him or Shane was the father of Stephanie's baby, it took Shane, Stephanie, and Triple H pushing back on it to get Vince to not go with this incest storyline which would have been Vince doing a storyline just for shock value aka disgusting viewers as it's worst.

@@derrickhaggard it also required Linda getting involved as well, that’s how much of a collective force was needed to get him to not only stop but kill the idea Which is insane when this was the guy that knew from the getgo and still allowed a test segment for Russo’s I’ll fated Beaver Cleavage segment during the Attitude Era which was basically an incest storyline between a hyper sexual “Beaver” (now an adult) with his “mom” Though one has to wonder that it was because it was during the Monday Night Wars that Vince was against the idea since he needed ratings to battle WCW After he won he could do whatever he wanted, and also the fact HE wasn’t personally involved with the story …it makes his friendship with a certain 45 even creepier what with all those know interviews he made where he all but says he’d like to shack up with his own daughter on air Vince and him sure have a LOT in common besides being very rich and not taking criticism very well

@@derrickhaggard I'm just thankful lowkey that the PG Era and the era that's gonna follow it taught him and WWE as a collective to reconsider pushing insensitive content as a way of drawing crowds since they now have sponsorships and networks to answer to more than ever (but s/o to those who weren't afraid to call Vince out whenever he went too far or tried to go too further than he'd usually try to)...

He did say that line, he was sitting outside and threw his Shield vest into a burning drum

@@melisaprietoaboitiz7184 Then that’s where I remember it from 😂 …. So Vince had something worse than that? Jesus

Vince nearly stopped Jeffs push Hhh stepped in and saved Jeffs push, by prolonging the story, so that Vince could assess Jeffs toxins status

It wasn't HHH that was hesitant, it was Vince Hhh saved Jeffs title win, by prolonging the story

good luck with that he having too much fun in AEW

@@kenny31000 i know that i am saying i wish he return in wwe again

Nope keep dreaming

​​@@dallas5339 i am saying that i wish he return he is not returning anytime soon i know

Me to but he in aew he said he wasn't going to come back to wwe nomore

It was Vince that was hesitant Hhh stepped in and saved Jeffs title win Hhh said to prolong the title win, to assess Jeffs toxins status

It might bring hints to why dean ambrose refused to say it publicly

Jeff was an adict

Jeff killed his own career

Oh, I don't know. Plenty of companies exploit their workers or use child labor. A lot of people running Fortune 500 companies do and think the same as WWE.