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He's a life long competitive wrestler with 25+ years grappling with hobbyists who've trained from like 2-10 years lol. Even if it's a different sport, the result would be the same if a life long competitive boxer came into a kickboxing gym and fought hobbyists

Bo is great. It was my club Bo visited. I love being part of the story and impetus for part of his MMA career. He ran a great clinic for my sons youth program which is a phenomenal wrestling program. It was our honor that he came and watched. I’m not sure what knuckleheads asked him to roll lol but our guys were mostly white belts and maybe a blue or purple. Most had highschool or small college wrestling backgrounds and for the love of Pete were trying to take him down and most were getting destroyed. A lot of snap takedowns to guillotines. I actually did not want to train. I was nursing a back injury and am old 🤣 and was overweight. The wrestling coaches and bjj guys wanted to see it. I had and have zero misgivings about training live with a world class wrestler but thought it would be a neat experience. I left the gi on hoping it would at least be less familiar. I remember asking Bo if he wanted to wear a gi and he said “no”. I am a top player and knew there was no way I was putting Bo on his back. I pulled half guard and did try a pretty tight wrist lock. But Bo was awesome. He powered/gutted out. He had “blackbelt base”. I remember trying a sweep from turtle I get a lot and it was like I hit a wall. He has a lot of length and world class grip fighting. We did go about 10 minutes and kind of stalemated out. It was an honor and a pleasure training with a future hall of fame wrestler, UFC champ and mma king. He was very respectful and probably a little restrained going with me “the old guy”. I love hearing him tell the story the way he remembers it and one day we’d love to have him come for a clinic. My son wrestles D2 and has trained his whole life in BJJ as well and would love to one day also have great success in mma. Thanks Bo for letting NLD JUDO and BJJ be part of the story. You’re a great young man!

He violated the first rule.

A D1 wrestler is a pretty experienced grappler with way better physical condition than the average Bjj player.

Bo defeats an entire BJJ school who have full time employment while training 2 to 3 days a week for 2 hours. Bo training as his full time job. This is a ridiculous comparison

Gordon tapped him even with a no leg Lock stipulation.

Bo is the only person who can tell a story that ends with "And everyone started clapping" and its also believable

Experienced wrestlers are cardio monsters combined with high level strength and know how, so it comes as no surprise that BJJ guys couldn't handle a wrestler at the level of Bo.

The core of jiu jitsu is position over submission. A championship winner wrestler is essentially a black belt in gaining position. So as long as he knows a handful of submissions, that makes perfect sense.

There is nobody who will ever gas Bo, not after being in Caels room for years. It's a next level conditioning that most can't fathom.

Woah a life-time record holding 210lb 6"3 shredded collegiate grappler beat a 52 year old accountant father of four purple belt in a roll! My mind is blown

This is a great ad for BJJ, since you have a 55 year old non college athlete instructor grappling to a draw with a 22 year old national wrestling champion. Wrestling is a great base for self defense oriented martial arts, though it should be much less than what MMA athletes do. 4 years is good enough, you don't want to carry those injuries for life.

Jiu-jitsu and Judo improved my wrestling with submissions.

As a kid my mom put me and my older bro in karate classes to keep us busy while she worked, we never missed a class and really benefited from the discipline it gave both of us. I got my black belt in Taekwondo by age 13, never told anyone at school, but i was so proud of that accomplishment. I wish i knew there were other disciplines, i would have tried to learn more. (this was pre internet, around 1989-1990.

I’m no great grappler by any means, I only wrestled for a few years but I always had such an admiration for bjj/submission grappling. After learning some jj basics, it’s amazing how well it blends with wrestling. For me personally, I found it most comfortable and effective to use wrestling to engage and get to the position I wanted, then use jj to complete the submission.

Really interesting! In my high school, the lacrosse players had something similar. They put on their lacrosse gear and would have a “fight club” after practice sometimes.

Not surprising at all. At most bjj gyms, a d1 talented college wrestler will maul 90 percent of the guys training, they won’t catch the higher belts but they make them work for everything. The only time I see jiu jitsu guys melt through talented wrestlers is when it’s a really good gi guy, or a talented leg locker.

Bo looks like a Viking

"when to put pressure" is what spoke to me the most

I wrestled bo a couple times when he lived in new mexico were about the same age. He was really unorthodox and good at countering. We split matches when we were like 10. Once in colorado and the second time in new mexico

But i love the thumbnail pic, him slamming gordon when gordon was trying to get him to do so bc he wasnt allowed to pull guard, andddd then he tapped to a triangle a few minutes later 😂

What a legendary Colab. Hopefully this puts this podcast on the map. I love you guys on tik tok.

Gordon Ryan is laughing at this.

So many UFC fighters are hype-monsters (MCGregor, Paddy the Baddy etc) who seem to get pushed forward because of their yap. It's so refreshing to see someone coming to the fore on raw talent. I am excited to see this man's inevitable rise far more than those others.

Yeah that story in not surprising at all. I'm a purple belt, rolled with a freaking monster wrestler from Ohio one time. Absolutely humbling experience.

This is similar to my experience, I have wrestled for 10 years and my first jiu-jitsu practice after they showed everybody a few moves went onto free rolling, and like bo I have watched ufc most of my life I know how to do basic submissions, but all I did was use my wrestling until I controlled them and got either a rear naked choke or an Americana or a guillotine. I beat all of the white belts and blue belts. There were 3 white belts 2 blue belts. 2 purple belts a brown and 2 black belts I only rolled with one of the purple belts but I was able to tire him out and get am Americana on him. But I did get submitted by the brown belt, and he was smaller than me. The other guys were my size or bigger. 185+ Brown belt tapped me with a triangle choke. I could have picked him up and slammed him but I didn't because it was 1. My first day. 2. Not a competition 3. Didn't need to inflate my ego. I unfortunately had to stop going to jiu-jitsu after a month because my car broke down and have to carpool to work right now. But will get back in it when i can I loved it

The fight club at a wrestling tournament is crazy

his standup shocked tf out me, fanforlife

Great interview you let Bo speak

Bo is a great storyteller and he definitely have a lot of good stories or anecdotes to tell, you should let him talk more without interrupting

He’s a stud. Rare breed of sportsman that just have it.

I'm one of these guys too that just picked it up all really quick and I've been fighting everybody my whole life too. I swear we're evolved for it, it's in the shape of our skulls. My head looks just like this dude's head.

I've heard it said that a lifelong wrestler is basically a Blue or Purple belt. Which makes elite wrestlers brown, maybe?

The interesting thing to note here, is that a BJJ instructor, even an old one, could hold his own against a young athletic wrestling phenom. Goes to show how important BJJ is no matter what.

never saw this collab coming

Great stuff guys

Ask Bo how he did when he faced Gordon in a modified rules sub grappling match.

I had a similar experience, when I was 18. I just graduated high school, after placing 3rd in States in Wrestling. My Wrestling coach liked to go over to a BJJ place, because his brothers did MMA. At this point I knew and understood basic chokes and locks, based on watching UFC fights, but had no formal BJJ training. I easily beat all the BJJ guys I went against, with good wrestling, and an understanding of body mechanics. That was until I went against this guy that they call “Gumby”. Everybody stopped their matches to watch their best guy (a brown belt in BJJ) beat me. I tried every submission and choke I knew to no avail - the sonofabitch wouldn’t tap no matter how much I contorted his body. I ended up winning by choking him out, by getting him into a headlock, and using his own arm to cover his mouth and nose. Sometimes you don’t need fancy technical techniques - you just need to understand how the body works and what it requires - such as oxygen. What I did wasn’t fancy by any means, but it sure as hell worked.

So True, During EVERY wrestling in Abq, NM. Go behind the bleachers after your match or waiting for your match and fight random Kids, teammates, or siblings!

That was me in an Aikido class my dad took me once, after training for about a year in wrestling. We never went back. XD

Haha that's so cool. I've been one of those students with a blue belt watching this new wrestler kill everyone and this was not even a Bo Nichol.

It makes sense, the top level wrestlers are better athletes. I think in the future bjj will catch up, but right now wrestling is above it.

When I was in high school we had what we called "Rodesian Fight Club" where me and a bunch of other high schoolers would go onto the dirty wrestling mats and fight.

This is why I have my son wrestle and focus on wrestling over BJJ. I fought mma as a purple belt years ago and got rag dolled by a Russian who had been wrestling his whole life. I legit thought I would submit him but his base and strength amazed me. It humbled me and made me rethink BJJ and the whole flow rolling thing they do and decided to start learning more wrestling and being more aggressive. I train with wrestlers now and they push me way harder than BJJ guys did.

it took a juice head tuekey like Gordon Ryan to submit Bo Nickal...... Bo is a beast!

He came to our school and tapped all the black belts within 20 second intervals. We have world champion adult black belts at our school and he ran through them all in Gi and No Gi. I honestly think he makes light work of Gordon Ryan and Craig Jones based on what we saw 💪 🔥 🥇

Bo ability to direct another's body is genius. I've seen wrestling maTches were his opponents had no idea where he was at.😂 bo's a freak stud

My man just completed a side quest

Cael Sanderson had an interview I saw where he said something about "wrestling the way you play" (Link: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i6uVedaGl7moYo0.html ). Kinda makes sense hearing it from both of them

Bo is hands-down, a great wrestler and fighter, there’s no argument there. I raise my eyebrow at the kids fighting after a wrestling tournament and I’m definitely raising my eyebrow to getting his purple belt just because he ran through a white and blue Belt. Either that academy is handing out favors or there’s some sprinkles on the truth.

That's a generous thumbnail, from a match he ultimately lost to the BJJ practitioner.

This dude being the modern day Musashi.

I like Bo but I think he's starting to believe his own hype a little too much. He's 100% been tapped out in training 100 times if he's training with real guys, but he's not talking about that. He's playing into this invincibility thing when he should just be humble.

I live in Missouri and roll with Elite wrestlers from mizzou. I’m a blue belt and 45. I tap them consistently until they have trained for a while. Wrestling and BJJ are not the same. I have a lot of respect for Bo. He is a great athlete. However anyone who watched him vs Gordon Ryan will see how scared he was to engage even with his requested rule set of no leg locks. He still got choked. It’s also worth noting that he has grappled his entire life so it wasn’t like he just walked in off the street.

How every kid think their first bjj experience will go lol Dude is a world class athlete. His cardio would best most bjj guys in general.

insane bo!

I've trained for about 5 years or so, rolled with a dude who had 18 years of experience wrestling up to D3 college and one year of BJJ training. I had nothing really lol, I was able to keep him from subbing me but every sweep I hit (I think I got 2 sweeps lol) he almost immediately reversed lol. It's not entirely shocking to see someone with a dedicated 15+ years of grappling experience even with no BJJ training come in and put the pressure on someone who trains as a hobby for half the time lol.

Really excited about this guy after his last performance, the hype is real, gotta love it

bro said ABQ New Mexico and I now understand why he's such a savage, fair play Bo if you can survive growing up in that city the UFC should be a cake walk.

Finally people will start to realize there are martial arts out there that beat ju jitsu everytime.

I havent seen wrestler with great hands in a long time. Bo has hands.

Im a huge fan of Bo, but I’ma have to raise my eyebrow at the fighting at wrestling tournaments story 😂 as a lifelong wrestler myself, 20-30 kids congregating to watch each other fist fight? Ain’t no way one of the many parents or coaches doesn’t hear that and stop that shit. And Bo, the coaches son, plus from a deeply conservative Christian household being involved in those shenanigans? Ain’t no wayyyyy that shit would fly. His ass would have been grass if his folks caught him involved in that AT A TOURNAMENT Love Bo but sounds like some hyperbole at best😂

The drink master has a podcast now!!! Yes!!!

We did king of the mat every practice

He was probably gunning it too. These poor hobbyist are just getting off work and this is a form of decompression, then this man just decimates all their hopes and dreams.

Heavy hands are the nemisis of Jiu-Jitsu folk everywhere. That shit will exhaust you in no time flat if you don't know how to deal with it.

Wrestling is THE MOST important fighting skill.

Bo got destroyed against Gordon and there weren't even leg locks OR pulling guard allowed. If they did a straight up BJJ match Bo would get embaressed. He is a great wrestler but please don't act like he can take a high level black belt in a straight bjj match. One day hopefully he will be able to be on that level and he will be unstoppable in MMA but right now his ground skills aren't there yet.

Dude got wrecked in bjj by gordan and is bragging about passing hobbyists guards at some random school good job man youve proved wrestling is superior

Needed special rules to roll with Gordan Ryan

I feel sorry for those boys in the room. I know how bully mentality can take over at a bjj gym, especially against other wrestlers who come in for their first session. But holy dong, this is Bo Nickal, they should've kept their bully mentality checked this time. LoL.

Should have kept that story to himself. Small gym and all beginners except a brown belt and one 50-60 year old black belt, really? He ran out of bounds the entire match against Gordon Ryan and then got choked. Hey Bo - you want to be the king of grappling try ADCC, that’s where we decide this.

So a professional who trains 5-6 hours a day 6 days a week for a year and a half beat a group of people training an hour and a half once or twice a week as a hobby, how is that surprising exactly?? And a brown belt that gets gassed after 10 minutes of sparring? Sounds really odd.

Literally modern day version of Musashi vs the Yoshioka school

It's all grappling. Mark Schultz rolled with Rickson for an hour before Rickson submitted him. They just told Mark to roll and around and wrestle.....allegedly

We did this with football players at lunch in the wrestling gym. We put on boxing gloves and got our 112 two time state champ to beat the shit out of a d1 WR lol. He'd bring to the ground so fast and from there it was over lol!

Y do u have a podcast lol

How’s bragging camp going?

Bo Nickal vs Rickson Gracie who wins?

I love how they showed the picture of him and Gordon like he didn’t get subbed in that match

This was high school behind the gym at lunch, by the auto body shop class

I can verify the back stage fights a wrestling meets. Shit was wild

I have a judo, Rugby and weightlifting background, I’m tall and strong, because I’ve always enjoyed sport. I came into BJJ with some significant physical advantages compared to your average white through to purple belt, if I go all out my top pressure alone is enough to dominate most. Point is, I take no ego from that and none of that makes me any better at BJJ, grappling maybe but up against a higher belt or more experienced BJJ’er with similar physical stats, I’m dead in the water.

People acting like this is surprising. Three time national champion who has been training since he was like 5. This guy is a world class athlete. He destroyed people on the wrestling mat.

"Well done. Here's my sweaty smelly shirt"

Did he tap the whole school or break even with higher belts

I know that you aren't suppose to talk about practice but I'll make the exception for a ufc prodigys awesome jiu-jitsu story

He’s fighting kids in the hallways while Dagestani kids are taking on bears.

People being surprised by groups of dudes fighting each other for fun lmao.

I beat 2 purple belt and one white at Renzo gracie academy my first day just because I took my squat to 550.

Bo is world class at what he does vs a whole bunch of random gym dudes

Are there any videos of BBJ fighting wrestlers with wrestling rules?

im a mid level blue belt and rolled with a d3 wrestler ohio state champ, 185lbs of machine, 19 years old, im 24, and yeah he could take me down but on the ground he knew nothing, we have a 17 year old blue belt that tapped him 3 times lmao

Sambo & Wrestling top grappling system's, I trained 20 years All I use is Combat Sambo My Greco Roman Wrestling & Add in combat Systema for cherry on top. God bless 🙏

This man actually used the ol "and then everyone clapped" lmao

"I like this" lol.

I love this guy, wish he would get some of that Russian sambo combat experience too. He is gonna be great.

Would love to see a video of that day. I bet someone has it.

As soon as all the weird rule sets were put to bed Gordon hemmed that boy up …fast