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Battaglia, Roberto, and P. D. Cummins. The Story of the Italian Resistance. London: Odhams P., 1958.
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@CheeseNumbs27
@CheeseNumbs27 4 ай бұрын
Hi
@Knockee
@Knockee 4 ай бұрын
Ok
@yaoiswow
@yaoiswow 4 ай бұрын
Ok
@Speakerman276
@Speakerman276 4 ай бұрын
You're back?
@mmelon_JEbel
@mmelon_JEbel 4 ай бұрын
Check Community posts​@@Speakerman276
@rafaelgustavo7786
@rafaelgustavo7786 4 ай бұрын
Italy is the ultimate proof that its soldiers can be brave, but if: - their logistics are bad. - your technology lags behind your enemies. - your leaders do not know how to recognize your limitations in the war effort: your nation will be an eternal joke in military historiography.
@randomitalian909
@randomitalian909 4 ай бұрын
not to forget the industrial capability, if you look at graphs of ww2 countries industry compared its actually not even close for Italy
@abaddonthearmless319
@abaddonthearmless319 4 ай бұрын
The tech wasnt even that bad. The problem was that the good stuff wasnt being produced and couldnt make any significant impact.
@beans00001
@beans00001 4 ай бұрын
early war france is also a good example
@mrcat5508
@mrcat5508 4 ай бұрын
@@beans00001no it’s not?
@mrcat5508
@mrcat5508 4 ай бұрын
@@beans00001they just got surprised, and they didn’t use their tanks correctly.
@jeffreybezong4121
@jeffreybezong4121 4 ай бұрын
Prayers for any Italian guy who had to crew the CV/L3 Edit: shall all those who fought the great comment war down below rest in peace
@FlagAnthem
@FlagAnthem 4 ай бұрын
it was nicknamed "the coffin" not by chance...
@theducknamednewepicla9507
@theducknamednewepicla9507 4 ай бұрын
Mine aswell 😢
@da_Sizzle
@da_Sizzle 4 ай бұрын
Don't pray for nazis.
@Fui921
@Fui921 4 ай бұрын
​@@da_Sizzle They werent nazis, they were fascists or werent even fascists
@andylopez6145
@andylopez6145 4 ай бұрын
L3 is epic
@chartreux1532
@chartreux1532 4 ай бұрын
As a German Historian from Munich focusing mainly on Contemporary History especially here in Central Europe including Germany, France, Italy, Austria, Hungary etc. For those into Italy in WW2, i just want to share an interesting Topic from the Italian Axis Forces in WW2 that deserves more Attention and is overlooked, most likely because "Italy had bad Military" is huge Trope i assume. Read up on "Decima Flottiglia MAS" - basically Italian Axis Navy Seals on a Flotilla during WW2 - who have done some of the craziest but still succesful Special Ops during WW2. I only came across recently myself via German Archives and the Fact that apparently those Italian Axis Navy Seals were asked by the Germans to train their Navy Special Forces. So i went "Italians teaching Germans?! In WW2?!" Kinda shows you how powerful bad Stereotypes are, especially regarding the different Military & Branches in WW2. Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps
@VinnyUnion
@VinnyUnion 4 ай бұрын
Lange Rede kurzer Sinn.
@alexzero3736
@alexzero3736 4 ай бұрын
I know Italian fleet was big... But it ultimately failed in Battles around Malta and around Tarrent (Calabria).
@VinnyUnion
@VinnyUnion 4 ай бұрын
@@alexzero3736 that's not true, it destroyed the English fleet unanimously and viciously. It was the king of the Mediterranean seas. Rising with the SPQR flag!
@foxtrotcharlie1619
@foxtrotcharlie1619 4 ай бұрын
The captured elements taken prisoners by the Allies also collaborated with allied special forces towards the second half of the war. They operated in a unit named “Mariassalto”.
@Enrico_374
@Enrico_374 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for saying the real facts.. i also see everytime people who say that italy betrayed germany but these people don't know that there were 2 italy in 1943.. Traitor Italy was the kingdom of Italy led by the cowardly king Victor Emmanuel 3 who as soon as he declared war on Germany ran away out of fear. Instead no one knows the loyal italy ruled by Mussolini.. the RSI( Repubblica Sociale Italiana) who was loyal to germany till the end and also no one knows those 2 italy were in a bloodly civil war during 1943-1945... The winners write history..
@linzhizhou2332
@linzhizhou2332 4 ай бұрын
Italy in real life: 🥲🥲🥲 Italy In hoi 4 Getting Dalmatia, Yugoslavia for free, defeating france with paratroopers and doing sealion + restoring roman empire in less than a year without any difficulty: 🗿🗿🗿
@alexzero3736
@alexzero3736 4 ай бұрын
In HOI 4 you can do anything with paratroopers😂 . AI is just too stupid to resist. Also France in HOI 4 is greatly underpowered, its starting industry is worse than Italian one.
@bulbulder2zvezdara
@bulbulder2zvezdara 4 ай бұрын
So true tho 💀💀💀
@tempejkl
@tempejkl 3 ай бұрын
@@alexzero3736they have to do that or else AI Germany will lose
@alexzero3736
@alexzero3736 3 ай бұрын
@@tempejkl improve AI? No... Impossible...
@tempejkl
@tempejkl 3 ай бұрын
@@alexzero3736 Well, if they did that, new players would lose as well…
@patrickhaeusler
@patrickhaeusler 4 ай бұрын
I still think it might be interesting to discuss WWII from the pretty obscure Latin American perspective. Other interesting perspectives on historical events might also be "Crusades from the Muslim perspective", "WWI from the Ottoman perspective" or "Cold War from the Soviet perspective".
@Catolicoporsiempre1
@Catolicoporsiempre1 4 ай бұрын
The Latin American perspective is a great idea! Lets not forget that actually two nations from Latin América, Brasil and México, sent troops to battle; México sent an air squad to fight in the pacific along US Army, and Brasil sent three infantry divitions to fight along the allies in the landing in Italy. On the other hand Mexico provide an important support in matter of economy, comerce, work force to the United States... And also we have Argentina and the controversy about the relationship with Germany.
@ryanwagner656
@ryanwagner656 4 ай бұрын
moon landing from the martians perspective ​@@Repent-and-believe-in-Jesus1
@createrz8433
@createrz8433 4 ай бұрын
I support this! With how little Latin America is talked about in the context of ww2 I really want to know what they did during those times and why as well as what happened to the governments of those countries once the war was over.
@doctorstrange5566
@doctorstrange5566 3 ай бұрын
The video would last roughly 15 minutes
@kidsrock91
@kidsrock91 3 ай бұрын
Ww1 from the ottoman perspective would be cool, like the disastrous Gallipoli campaign or the Arab Revolt
@eminemeatingmmswithotherem5879
@eminemeatingmmswithotherem5879 4 ай бұрын
Fun fact Marinos Mitralexis during the invasion of Greece he managed to shoot down two Italian planes we he run out of ammunition, skillfully crashing into them, and then safely landing his own aircraft. Afterward, he reportedly arrested the Italian pilots using his service pistol. Mitralexis's bravery and resourcefulness became a symbol of Greek resistance during the war.
@Rodrick-rx4hd
@Rodrick-rx4hd 2 ай бұрын
SOUNDS REAL
@axelscharf2415
@axelscharf2415 2 ай бұрын
Sure . That makes totally sense .
@eminemeatingmmswithotherem5879
@eminemeatingmmswithotherem5879 2 ай бұрын
@@Rodrick-rx4hd It is real you can verify this by your self do some research this isn't some war time propaganda or a legend
@eminemeatingmmswithotherem5879
@eminemeatingmmswithotherem5879 2 ай бұрын
@@axelscharf2415 Do you research Greeks had limited aircrafts and ammunition and they used it carefully. there is a docent of similar incidents during the battle of Greece
@axelscharf2415
@axelscharf2415 2 ай бұрын
@eminemeatingmmswithotherem5879 just because somebody in greece told a story that doesn't make it thru . The hole story is just unbelievable. The guy rammed two Italian planes , those two planes crashed somewhere. But the Greek pilot landed safely and arrested the Italian Pilots with his revolver . How did he get immediately to the crash sides . What kinda planes the Italians fly ? I'm sorry but most war stories like this just stink like nationalism . Look at us we are much better warriors etc . No offense my greek brother .
@GoobermannBillingtonhead
@GoobermannBillingtonhead 4 ай бұрын
I absolutely love the meme references and comedy griffin puts in these vids. its such a shame YouYube hates on such golden content like this, but absolutely even allows elsagate to exist on the platform. i wish you only the best, Griffin.
@ScootsMcPoot
@ScootsMcPoot Ай бұрын
Why does youtube hate this? And how? This channel has 2.3 million subs and an average of 400k views on videos. How is it hating? It's not as popular sure, it's ww2 videos. It's niche
@andreavarp1357
@andreavarp1357 4 ай бұрын
A great book to read about the italian expeditionary force in Russia is "The sergeant in the snow" it talks about the experience of an Italian mountaneer during the retreat in the Don river encirclement.
@michealohaodha9351
@michealohaodha9351 3 ай бұрын
Rigoni-Stern is a great writer....simple yet natural.
@user-kw7jl5jt6n
@user-kw7jl5jt6n 4 ай бұрын
This is the guide to how to do a full historical Italy in hoi4
@hanslada69
@hanslada69 3 ай бұрын
XD
@TheSkyGuy77
@TheSkyGuy77 Ай бұрын
Aka, the clown car of western Europe 😂
@tomw3886
@tomw3886 3 сағат бұрын
Was doing a Germany Ironman game and my dumbass thought initiating an afrika campaign would be a good idea. Lost nearly 1.5 space marine armies. Due to Italy not garrisoning the ports behind the rapid pushes we were making. I managed to pull out half an army back to Sicily but it was an utter failure. Italy like real life also got beat up my Greece so I helped them took Crete thought the continent was secured so I go to fight the USSR. And we push the Russians to Moscow then the invasion of early DDay happens forcing myself to divert forces both to the Gustav line and both the west wall and the Rhine river doing minimal fighting in France. I don't know if it's gonna be possible to comeback at this point. I have only 1.6mil men in the field. 0 reserve manpower and the game won't let me go past extensive conscription
@PakBallandSami
@PakBallandSami 4 ай бұрын
Some People May find this Interesting: The Eighth Army's forces advanced north-northeast toward Venice and Trieste on the same day that the Italian Partisans' Committee of Liberation declared a general uprising and crossed the Po on the right flank. Divisions of the US Fifth Army advanced northward toward Austria and northwest toward Milan. The German-Italian Army of Liguria was caught off guard by the Brazilian division's quick advance towards Turin, which led to its collapse.
@usuariogenerico2
@usuariogenerico2 4 ай бұрын
🇧🇷🇧🇷 Brazil mentioned 🇧🇷🇧🇷 Tivemos que ir pra Itália ajudar a resolver essa baguncinha por causa de uns otários de camisas pretas e camisas marrons
@tigerland4328
@tigerland4328 3 ай бұрын
Was the Brazilian Division part of the British eighth army or the US fifth Army ?
@jeffe9842
@jeffe9842 4 ай бұрын
I was glued to this video. It was so well done and so interesting. Incidentally, my dad was part of Patton's Seventh Army and was in the third wave in the invasion of Sicily on July 10, 1943.
@thecrazydestructoniz
@thecrazydestructoniz 3 ай бұрын
thank you for the war crimes bro
@thomasc.3832
@thomasc.3832 4 ай бұрын
Good video but noticed a mistake, Mussolini's puppet state was the "Italian Social Republic" not the "Italian Socialist Republic", they are very different things
@natem1579
@natem1579 26 күн бұрын
The name is incorrect in the video, yes, but the Nazis had already proven to have a unique definition of the word "Socialist", to say the least; so the difference would be nonexistent in this situation.
@Paciat
@Paciat 17 күн бұрын
@@natem1579 Everyone has the same definition of the word "Socialist". Its a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by a "workers government".(there is not a single word about equality or women rights there) Hitlers government fits the definition. Saying national socialists are not socialists is ignoring the definition of socialism and creating your own.
@yitzhaktolentino4214
@yitzhaktolentino4214 6 күн бұрын
@@Paciat Hitler is not and was not a “socialist” he abused the term to obtain a wider appeal. Hitler is a Nazi, nothing more and nothing less. I’d recommend watching Three Arrows or a video that delves into Nazi politics and beliefs.
@theravingtimes9582
@theravingtimes9582 4 ай бұрын
Noticed at 1:01:57 during the Polish's artillery attack, a certain Iranian bear is visible with the human soldiers
@lucamckenn5932
@lucamckenn5932 Ай бұрын
His name was wojtek the bear. A cub that a platoon found an befriended.
@thepoleontheroad
@thepoleontheroad 7 күн бұрын
So awesome of AH to do a detailed research like that.
@usuariogenerico2
@usuariogenerico2 4 ай бұрын
Thank you SO MUCH FOR THIS I've been waiting for this for so long!!!! There aren't many videos covering Italy in WW2 although it was a major player
@FlagAnthem
@FlagAnthem 4 ай бұрын
can't even understand Italian national identity
@leosalemii
@leosalemii 4 ай бұрын
@@FlagAnthem you can't because it's feeble and not everyone has it lol
@alessandroiorio6248
@alessandroiorio6248 4 ай бұрын
Peccato sia pieno di errori e la solita narrativa fuorviante tipica di questo e di altri canali. Qualche esempio a caso dai primi minuti: la Germania che manda armi all'Italia invece che all'Etiopia, la guerra d'Etiopia che sembra un'epopea di anni risolta solo col gas (invece durò 7 mesi e il gas fu poco e non risolutivo) , e i numeri lievitati di produzione di aerei/carri dell'Italia comparati all'Asse (magari avessimo prodotto il 25% del totale, sai che rasponi si sarebbero fatti gli alti comandi). Sarebbe bello veder meno gente leccare il c*lo a questi canali che fanno ricerca con sciatteria.
@leosalemii
@leosalemii 4 ай бұрын
@@alessandroiorio6248 non sono perfetti, ma se si viene con l'idea che siano divinità scese in terra... ovviamente loro hanno la colpa per la disinformazione
@alessandroiorio6248
@alessandroiorio6248 4 ай бұрын
@@leosalemii Lungi da me pensare agli youtuber come divinità. La perfezione non esiste ma la ricerca della perfezione dovrebbe essere al primo posto nel creare video educativi se sei un canale con 2 milioni e rotti di iscritti i cui video hanno molto spesso milioni di visualizzazioni; hai il dovere morale verso chi ti ascolta e la comunità di ridurre la disinformazione, perché si sa benissimo come a volte certi miti e falsità diventino storia
@Dornana
@Dornana 3 ай бұрын
Reminder that the BEF(Brazilian Expeditionary Force) fought extremely well at mount casino in montanous snow terrain depiste brazilians not being used to low temperatures in general. We also had a reputation of being generous and sharing most of our food with italian civilians. And, we also captured an entire german divison at the end of the campaign!
@tetraxis3011
@tetraxis3011 2 ай бұрын
Brazil was the only Latin American country to provide direct ground troops. Mexicos constitution forbids deployment of combat units outside Mexican territory, so we had to conform to send a lot of volunteers to the US and Having the Mexican expeditionary Airforce operate under the greater US command structure.
@user-rf6gx8mb4h
@user-rf6gx8mb4h 2 ай бұрын
@@tetraxis3011 Based Mexicans and Brazilians.
@tetraxis3011
@tetraxis3011 2 ай бұрын
@@user-rf6gx8mb4h From Mexico, Thanks man.
@maroccomo
@maroccomo 4 ай бұрын
My grandmother was living in Northern Italy during WW2 and tells the story of her older brothers, cousins, and uncles that would hide in the mountains and shoot down at Natzi soldiers after school.
@lorenzo4408
@lorenzo4408 3 ай бұрын
I famosi parmigiani
@Hadfield15
@Hadfield15 4 ай бұрын
Think we might see WWII from the Canadian perspective sometime? I know we had D-Day from the Canadian POV, but I’d like to see what the rest of the war was like from their perspective
@arts6821
@arts6821 3 ай бұрын
Almost 200k views as of now and only 8k likes…. You guys deserve so much more credit than given, thank you for the passion you and your team put into these videos!
@alexacosta4751
@alexacosta4751 4 ай бұрын
Love these videos in the eyes of other countries. Hope you do it for every major country in WW2 🙌
@Bunjamin27
@Bunjamin27 4 ай бұрын
Love the long format youtube vids you all do.
@giangargo669
@giangargo669 4 ай бұрын
thank you for the video, loved all the effort on trying to use some italian words to further immerse the viewer
@thelitterbug7624
@thelitterbug7624 4 ай бұрын
Hahaha the use of the Lion King reference (A Disney cartoon) with the the ‘you know who’ is hilarious on so many layers
@breeve12
@breeve12 3 ай бұрын
That was an amazing experience! Your contest is some of the best available.
@ZucchiniAss
@ZucchiniAss 4 ай бұрын
Another incredible video, keep up the amazing work!
@annoyedbrox4851
@annoyedbrox4851 4 ай бұрын
the best history videos, as always, greatly appreciated
@sunlightpictures8367
@sunlightpictures8367 3 ай бұрын
Great episode! Your team put in a lot of work on this one.
@MRMixedup
@MRMixedup 4 ай бұрын
Just for a bit more info, at the peak of the b0mb!ngs, Malta was the most bombed place on earth despite being smaller then NYC, Il Duce overestimated Malta's defensive capabilities which was one of the reasons a land invasion never took place. The local population went through alot but thanks to our determination and Italy's faliure to stop operation pedestal (which brought crucial supplies to Malta) the islands never surrendered. Malta also played a crucial role in operation Husky as many British, American and allied troops stopped in Malta in preparation of the invasion. Thank you Armchair historian for featuring Malta although not too deeply (understandable in the greater context), i feel we have a very underrated history.
@mohammedsaysrashid3587
@mohammedsaysrashid3587 4 ай бұрын
It was an informative and wonderful historical coverage video about Mossolini ambitious for larger Italian empire
@user-gh7st3co7s
@user-gh7st3co7s 4 ай бұрын
gotta like all ur vids btw good luck in your new journey!
@vincentwaldner8061
@vincentwaldner8061 4 ай бұрын
Great content once again, a pretty good summary I think!
@Jayjay-qe6um
@Jayjay-qe6um 4 ай бұрын
"War is to man what maternity is to a woman. From philosophical and doctrinal viewpoint, I do not believe in perpetual peace." -- Benito Mussolini
@TotallySerious44
@TotallySerious44 2 ай бұрын
Based.
@antlionworkerfan2007
@antlionworkerfan2007 4 ай бұрын
Was just binging your videos and just so happened that you released a new video today, what luck!
@Simeon1510
@Simeon1510 4 ай бұрын
1:01:57 Wojtek the bear ❤️
@cesarsantiago._.4879
@cesarsantiago._.4879 4 ай бұрын
I wasn't waiting this video, but I needed it so much
@emanueleabrami8355
@emanueleabrami8355 4 ай бұрын
Very small detail: at minute 14 it’s cassa DA morto, non DI morto. So it is basically coffin. I love how you use Italian in the video THANK YOU very much!
@RickyJC
@RickyJC 11 күн бұрын
41:10 great little touch with Mussolini losing in chess with the fool’s mate: a 2-move checkmate that only someone who doesn’t know how to play chess end up in that position.
@O_Mostr
@O_Mostr 4 ай бұрын
Italy was not the "soft underbelly of Europe" as Churchill described it as. Infact, the Italian Social Republic with help from the Germans lasted up until the fall of Germany, retaining land from Bologna and up.
@FlagAnthem
@FlagAnthem 4 ай бұрын
then why Italy surrendered in 43?
@samuelstephen8147
@samuelstephen8147 4 ай бұрын
Italy's war wasn’t over with the surrender. After that Italy was thrown into a civil war with the Royal government against the German-backed Italian Social Republic under Mussolini and that lasted until 1945.@@FlagAnthem
@leosalemii
@leosalemii 4 ай бұрын
Because the king thought it best to just lay down arms in 1943 - while mussolini fled north and got arrested. ​the fascists went on fighting vs the allies and they kept being a thorn in their side until war's end @FlagAnthem
@FlagAnthem
@FlagAnthem 4 ай бұрын
​@@leosalemiiand WHAT make him think so?
@FlagAnthem
@FlagAnthem 4 ай бұрын
​@@samuelstephen8147 I know. Just focus more on the "surrendered" part
@crabbing-ws6hf
@crabbing-ws6hf 4 ай бұрын
YEEEEESSSS! Sorry, I get way too excited whenever you upload a long ww2 video, especially the perspective serie lol.
@Numba003
@Numba003 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for another excellent long form documentary. I love learning more about history through these. For the last several years, this channel and others have taught me a ton. God be with you out there everybody. ✝️ :)
@martinbast5250
@martinbast5250 4 ай бұрын
BEEN WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO SINCE DAY 1
@Icantchooseaname136
@Icantchooseaname136 4 ай бұрын
If I had a penny for every time Italy succeeded to reform the Roman Empire after it’s collapse. I’ll be broke
@somehistorynerd
@somehistorynerd 4 ай бұрын
They only tried… twice? Italy has only existed since the 1860’s.
@yoyonono51497
@yoyonono51497 4 ай бұрын
@@somehistorynerdI think he’s talking about all the previous states before Italy like the Papal States for example
@jimc.goodfellas226
@jimc.goodfellas226 4 ай бұрын
Yeah you be broke too
@greatgrungustwo904
@greatgrungustwo904 4 ай бұрын
If they succeeded you would still be broke, but less broke
@PremiumToad
@PremiumToad 4 ай бұрын
your already broke tho
@Stand_By_For_Mind_Control
@Stand_By_For_Mind_Control 4 ай бұрын
Just throwing out a 'thanks for your hard work Griff'. And I hope YT monetization gets friendlier in the future.
@maxq-
@maxq- 4 ай бұрын
Excellent work.
@kedafu
@kedafu 4 ай бұрын
Outstanding as usual. Thumbs up
@thecrazydestructoniz
@thecrazydestructoniz 3 ай бұрын
Really good documentary,should’ve mentioned the axis counterattack at gela though
@BigDonch
@BigDonch 4 ай бұрын
Oh yaaa one of the best history channels on here
@SeanHH1986
@SeanHH1986 4 ай бұрын
random connection: growing up on long island in ny, the ruins of king zog's estate from when he was in exile were about 30-45 mins away
@troidva
@troidva 4 ай бұрын
One criminally under-reported aspect of the Italian war effort was the courage and self-sacrifice of the merchant marine. Despite losing 25% of its entire merchant fleet at the outset of the war (interned or confiscated because Mussolini neglected to call home the ships before the start of of the war), Italy's brave civilian sailors managed to keep the Axis forces in North Africa at least marginally supplied up through March 1943 despite horrendous losses. At that point, Italy had only 26 large merchant ships left, including only three oil tankers
@andrewwilson6726
@andrewwilson6726 4 ай бұрын
We need a ww1 from the Italian perspective video.
@scotto2291
@scotto2291 4 ай бұрын
There already is one
@FlagAnthem
@FlagAnthem 4 ай бұрын
watch "Uomini Contro"
@andrewwilson6726
@andrewwilson6726 4 ай бұрын
@@scotto2291 no. There isn't.
@andrewwilson6726
@andrewwilson6726 4 ай бұрын
@@FlagAnthem alright!
@scotto2291
@scotto2291 4 ай бұрын
@@andrewwilson6726 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g7mfbMxzvtTFdX0.htmlsi=uMUq8X7lhN0JLcJN It's not explicitly titled WW1 from Italy's perspective but that's what it is.
@sergiopiparo4084
@sergiopiparo4084 4 ай бұрын
My grandfather served in the Italian army forces he started in East Africa and then transferred to Libya in 1943 he was captured by the British after the fall of fascism he returned home
@Enrico_374
@Enrico_374 4 ай бұрын
my great uncle was in the Italian army during World War II. he participated in the Barbarossa operation and was sent to support the German allies together with the Romanian and Finnish soldiers during the invasion of the Soviet Union. He miraculously managed to survive and said that he had to return to his home in Sicily mainly on foot as the vehicles were either destroyed or out of gas. he returned to Sicily and eventually died in 1943 during the invasion of Sicily.. he died defending his homeland from the American enemy...
@sergiopiparo4084
@sergiopiparo4084 4 ай бұрын
@@Enrico_374 my grandfather is also from Sicily he was born in Modica what part of Sicily is your uncle from?
@Enrico_374
@Enrico_374 4 ай бұрын
@@sergiopiparo4084 He was from Partinico( province of Palermo)
@tigerland4328
@tigerland4328 3 ай бұрын
My grandfather fought in north Africa,Italy and in north west Europe. He was a British paratrooper.
@ChrisSmith74627
@ChrisSmith74627 3 ай бұрын
My grandmother was obviously not fighting but she was a child living in Calabria. All she remembers is seeing Allied planes flying over her paese
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 3 ай бұрын
Nicely done long video
@nicholasmontgomery8594
@nicholasmontgomery8594 4 ай бұрын
I'm surprised there wasn't any mention of the mafia's involvement. Italian historians cite that Italy never really had full logistical control over Sicily due to all the local Dons in the region requiring officers and politicians to "wet their beaks" There was also the general resentment of authority of Italy in general. It was said that Mussolini ordered that no wall in Sicily could be higher than the waist given how frequent men with luparas (short barreled hunting shotguns) would hide behind them and blast Italian troops.
@beigegaming9905
@beigegaming9905 3 ай бұрын
Hey Griffin! Been watching ya for years! You should do a video over cover-ups the American government such as the USS Liberty Incident! Others wrapped in there with it.
@quentinjohnson-ronald1266
@quentinjohnson-ronald1266 4 ай бұрын
This video was great, can you make one from New Zealand's/Australia's perspective?
@dansmith4077
@dansmith4077 3 ай бұрын
Excellent video thanks
@thebadblokke
@thebadblokke 4 ай бұрын
This is extremely well made.
@redmilitia117
@redmilitia117 4 ай бұрын
I didn't expect this video
@ChristineCAlb1
@ChristineCAlb1 3 ай бұрын
Italy had a monarchy??? I always learn something new from your videos. :) Really hope KZfaq doesn’t cancel you.
@RubberToeYT
@RubberToeYT 4 ай бұрын
Great documentary
@mrlodwick
@mrlodwick 4 ай бұрын
You rock bro !
@SimoNemo7
@SimoNemo7 4 ай бұрын
This vid is super well made. As an Italian myself it’s quite fascinating to see some similarities from the past still present today. Saddens me though each time I come visit my family here how the situation worsens in Italy. No work, crummy economy and not enough repopulation. I’d live here if it wasn’t so hard to make a living.
@Destroyer120296
@Destroyer120296 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for thr video I love the art and info. It is nice to get a more in deptg view why italy did what it dis
@ryleeculla5570
@ryleeculla5570 4 ай бұрын
The Italians weren’t expecting to go on the offensive especially out of Europe and anyways they were poorly equipped for such a aggressive goal that Mussolini pictured during ww1 they were on the defensive and many people thought the same thing will happen again and guess what they failed to realize that this wasn’t a war of attrition and bleeding your enemy dry oh no it was lightning warfare although I’m guessing I might be wrong cause I know someone going to be pointing something out
@danielelanza2441
@danielelanza2441 4 ай бұрын
To clarify Italy was almost always in the offensive (13 major offensive battles against 3 Austro-Hungarian/German ones) in WWI. For I agree woth you yes, Italian military was still convinced on a trench warfare ww2 (similarly as Poland, France and Great Britain too in 1939) but failed to evolve its strategy due of what we have seen in this video
@oliversherman2414
@oliversherman2414 4 ай бұрын
I love the small Hoi4 references in these videos
@GenralWAV
@GenralWAV 2 ай бұрын
The thought of mussolini and churchill play battleship just cracks me up 😂
@djartyom924
@djartyom924 4 ай бұрын
5:21 "do u feel like a hero yet?" - John Conrad
@Mynameshere1310
@Mynameshere1310 4 ай бұрын
At 1:00:00 literally company of heroes 3 but on hardest setting, jesus its attacks after attacks after attacks!
@hendriktonisson2915
@hendriktonisson2915 4 ай бұрын
I wonder how WW2 would've been different if Italy stayed neutral like Spain? With a neutral Italy would the Western allies have been able to launch a massive offensive from the Balkans into Eastern Europe and not let the Soviets to occupy Eastern European countries?
@DMS-pq8
@DMS-pq8 4 ай бұрын
It was in North Africa that the allies especially the U.S. learned to fight a modern war and what commanders were capable of fighting that kind of war, Without that experience any invasion of Europe probably is a disaster
@alexzero3736
@alexzero3736 4 ай бұрын
Even if Italy stays neutral, Mussolini would do his thing in the Balkans like invading Albania, putting pressure on Yugoslavia and Greece... The guy was ambitious.
@Ibra2him
@Ibra2him 4 ай бұрын
@@alexzero3736in that case, I wonder if Italy would be invaded by the Germans at some point for getting in the way of their interests
@hendriktonisson2915
@hendriktonisson2915 4 ай бұрын
@@DMS-pq8 Considering the effects the Stalin's purges had on the Red Army I think the Western allies would've been as successful if not more successful than the Soviets.
@hendriktonisson2915
@hendriktonisson2915 4 ай бұрын
@@alexzero3736 In real history Mussolini got away with invading Albania without getting into a war with the major powers but if he really wanted to avoid conflict with Britain and it's allies I doubt he would risk invading Yugoslavia or Greece given how the Western allies reacted to the German invasion of Poland. The most Mussolini probably would've done is to send volunteer army to fight against the Soviet Union similarly to what Franco's Spain did.
@tyleracey3141
@tyleracey3141 Ай бұрын
101:57. Okay I know my history but to my knowledge, I believe that’s a bear behind a soldier. That must be Wojtek from the Polish 22nd Artillery Supply Company. He carried crates of ammunition meant for four soldiers at the Battle of Monte Cassino. If I’m correct, that’s a very cool hidden detail
@loganlove9986
@loganlove9986 8 күн бұрын
@TheArmchairHistorian 56:46 to 57:40 Could you tell me what the name of this soundtrack is?? Or if there is anywhere I can listen to this?? Cause it’s just . . . So beautiful to listen to, I just want to loop it so much 😅😌 Much appreciated, and great content. Have a good day!!
@monsterx1121
@monsterx1121 4 ай бұрын
im happy for you brother i thought in second you will give up but you did not do it you are hero and legend you have my respect from iraq brother
@WrenPhoenix
@WrenPhoenix 4 ай бұрын
The Hearts of Iron IV UI part made me chuckle.
@flashgordon6670
@flashgordon6670 4 ай бұрын
Brilliant video thank you Sir Griffin! Btw, that ain’t a real pipe.
@liamjames5405
@liamjames5405 3 ай бұрын
Eisenhower casually playing hoi4 scares me
@juanjosepassotoncel1191
@juanjosepassotoncel1191 3 ай бұрын
Buen video tambien quiero ver la ww2 from the britsh perspective
@Iteisenhauer
@Iteisenhauer Ай бұрын
Great video
@UpgradedTitanTvman292
@UpgradedTitanTvman292 4 ай бұрын
Armcher historian is bakk!!1!1!!🔥🔥🔥
@kliwenadshorts3870
@kliwenadshorts3870 3 ай бұрын
i love the whole hoi4 and discord stuff lmao.
@auraguard0212
@auraguard0212 Ай бұрын
Italy was like a game released early.
@beaniemiller6861
@beaniemiller6861 3 ай бұрын
My grandfather was part of the U.S forces in Operation Husky. Rest in peace Ben
@samyong2343
@samyong2343 4 ай бұрын
Please do Battle of Midway documentary
@darylcheshire1618
@darylcheshire1618 2 ай бұрын
With the Itallians surrendering in droves, there was a famous Bluey and Curley cartoon where Bluey and Curley were guarding rows and rows of Italian prisoners as far as the eye can see and the caption was something like this: “Luigi, if you don’t stop dragging my rifle in the sand, I won’t let you carry it”. My father knew someone who was taking a leak when two Italian soldiers showed up and his rifle was metres away, but the Italians were surrendering.
@srb98af89
@srb98af89 3 ай бұрын
That "Hearts of Iron" style of story telling is brilliant ;d
@Unfassbarer
@Unfassbarer 4 ай бұрын
Danke!
@fidem15893
@fidem15893 3 ай бұрын
Well done! Saluti dall' Italia 🇮🇹
@thomaszen3622
@thomaszen3622 4 ай бұрын
Huh? I thought you left KZfaq? I’m happy you uploaded, but I’m a bit confused😅
@Narrowsplice
@Narrowsplice 4 ай бұрын
Yes!!!!! Back to historical
@anthoneyschwoch9104
@anthoneyschwoch9104 4 ай бұрын
Forest Griffin, you just might have the coolest name of any human being I've ever heard of. ✌️
@josephpercente8377
@josephpercente8377 3 ай бұрын
The majority of the Italian merchant fleet was overseas. It could have been recalled in time to be of use, but it wasn't. It was interred or confiscated.
@brittking3990
@brittking3990 4 ай бұрын
Getting close to 100 years after the war and I still get a good chuckle at Italys performance in WW2…especially Mussolini!! 🤣🤣🤣
@CrisisMoon7
@CrisisMoon7 4 ай бұрын
Sounds like my conversations with my friend except the Mein Kampf part
@sethmeyer2443
@sethmeyer2443 Ай бұрын
My grandfather fought at Monte Cassino while my grandmom was in NY giving birth to my dad. 80 years ago this month.
@ShotKalTank
@ShotKalTank 4 ай бұрын
1:01:32 oh that's where crosses grow, no soldier sleeps, and hell's 6 feet deep
@dantetre
@dantetre 3 ай бұрын
1:01:56 Wojtek the Polish war bear. :D
@davianoinglesias5030
@davianoinglesias5030 3 ай бұрын
Exemplary narration, someone has pointed out that we need a WW1 from the Ottomsn perspective as well as WW2 from the Latin America perspective. I agree with them, we need different persoectives of these wars
@geordiedog1749
@geordiedog1749 4 ай бұрын
Small point - Matapan was enabled by Applecores and not Stringbags .
@gunsandcommissions
@gunsandcommissions 4 ай бұрын
19:51: "only" bread and olives? I fail to see the problem.....
@outofturn331
@outofturn331 4 ай бұрын
5:30 "pacify" 😢😂, 9:30 as a hyena i was hugely offended
@davidschaftenaar6530
@davidschaftenaar6530 4 ай бұрын
30:00 ... Wait a minute... What's _he_ doing at the Casablanca Conference?? 😂
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