Xbox Live: Scamming You For 15 Years And Counting

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KnowledgeHusk

KnowledgeHusk

3 жыл бұрын

Once upon a time in a world now gone by, Xbox was friendly, caring and nice.
And simply one day, they asked you to pay, for the privilege of being online.
We were baffled confused, what’s this “internet” do
And now they want more of your dimes.
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@renewagain6956
@renewagain6956 3 жыл бұрын
"What are you gonna do about it?" Same thing I've always done... Not pay.
@nanonymous9139
@nanonymous9139 3 жыл бұрын
Aaaargh!!!
@blindedjourneyman
@blindedjourneyman 3 жыл бұрын
Yearg! Hoist the black flag matey!
@warwickeng5491
@warwickeng5491 3 жыл бұрын
This, the only consoles I've ever played were PS1 and PS2... And I didn't even pay for them, they were given to me
@HTHAMMACK1
@HTHAMMACK1 3 жыл бұрын
You're going to pay one way or the other if you own a console.
@slycther2.027
@slycther2.027 3 жыл бұрын
@@HTHAMMACK1 Not if you only play single player games.
@counterstructure4908
@counterstructure4908 3 жыл бұрын
If the X-box doesn't love me, it will be the Ex-box.
@counterstructure4908
@counterstructure4908 3 жыл бұрын
@Thot Patrol USA Please don't. The less visible i am to Y.T. the better.
@ad-skyobsidion4267
@ad-skyobsidion4267 3 жыл бұрын
@@counterstructure4908 very humble
@xboxrules8472
@xboxrules8472 3 жыл бұрын
Your weebness is obvious
@diamond_dogs
@diamond_dogs 3 жыл бұрын
Xbox took the kids
@Keyring7031
@Keyring7031 3 жыл бұрын
At this point Tyler’s videos have become their own genre.
@xayer98
@xayer98 3 жыл бұрын
Remember when he just made kinda normal geography videos? 😂😂
@Keyring7031
@Keyring7031 3 жыл бұрын
@@xayer98 that was back when Cody used the channel
@D00000T
@D00000T 3 жыл бұрын
@@xayer98 he sounds like a completely different person then
@prcr364
@prcr364 3 жыл бұрын
@digitalXmage Yeah this is just commentary by a different person, that doesn’t make it a new genre...
@memeboi6017
@memeboi6017 3 жыл бұрын
Philosophical Acid trip
@mateusgreenwood1096
@mateusgreenwood1096 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine paying to play online to get called the n word by a 12 year old.
@_MC529
@_MC529 3 жыл бұрын
"n word"???
@quapin8174
@quapin8174 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine paying and getting called a “homeless piss cover cat boy who hasn’t showed in a year” thankfully I don’t pay for that someone just calls me that for free.
@foolishmuleth6757
@foolishmuleth6757 3 жыл бұрын
@@quapin8174 You homeless piss covered cat boy who hasn't showered in a year
@EduardoDiaz-wk7ld
@EduardoDiaz-wk7ld 3 жыл бұрын
Imaging paying to play online and get banned for SAYING the n word
@AlejandroRodolfoMendez
@AlejandroRodolfoMendez 3 жыл бұрын
And something about my mother that's not remotely possible.
@Pixelflame5826
@Pixelflame5826 3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, time for a man inside a drug trip to tell me how much society sucks.
@christiang1781
@christiang1781 3 жыл бұрын
It feels more like he's telling me how much I suck. And I enjoy it.
@ryanblakey1695
@ryanblakey1695 3 жыл бұрын
@@christiang1781 Not you, capitalism.
@ryanblakey1695
@ryanblakey1695 3 жыл бұрын
Society does suck, and don’t underestimate the knowledge to be gained from drugs that take you on a trip. To suggest that human brains are the only kinds of neural networks, well for one is objectively false, but also incredibly narrow minded and human centric.
@ImTheMan0fSteel
@ImTheMan0fSteel 3 жыл бұрын
This video screams "I'm 16 and this is deep." Lmfao.
@fupoflapo2386
@fupoflapo2386 3 жыл бұрын
@@ImTheMan0fSteel how so?
@mjbgames4963
@mjbgames4963 3 жыл бұрын
“January 22nd, 2021” “January 2nd, 2021” *CONFUSED SCREAMING*
@demonjunkie6588
@demonjunkie6588 3 жыл бұрын
PRESENT DAY PRESENT TIME
@nicalite2989
@nicalite2989 3 жыл бұрын
I watched it 3 times to make sure i heard it right
@thharrimw
@thharrimw 3 жыл бұрын
Beat me to it lol
@kabochaVA
@kabochaVA 3 жыл бұрын
He meant “January 222nd, 2021”
@smallaluz
@smallaluz 3 жыл бұрын
@@demonjunkie6588 *Manic laughter*
@bestbry1
@bestbry1 3 жыл бұрын
I never understood why people pay to play online, it’s nonsense. You already pay for the internet right
@Insky_
@Insky_ 3 жыл бұрын
In the early console days, that money was used to maintain multiplayer servers. Now it's just pay2play
@stefanfr13
@stefanfr13 3 жыл бұрын
@@Insky_ did you not watch the video? The majority of games on consoles used peer to peer, or the developer's own servers; completely separate from the consoles' internet access.
@thomastheperson3600
@thomastheperson3600 3 жыл бұрын
When I was younger I got this service because my friends didn’t own a pc yet.
@Nitro1396
@Nitro1396 3 жыл бұрын
Insky someone didn’t watch the video
@irvingchies1626
@irvingchies1626 3 жыл бұрын
It does use dedicated servers unlike the video guy says, yes, it's overpriced but in exchange you play in a platform where hackers are rare, you can store your saves to play them in your friends houses and the platform is just plug and play I had all consoles since the game cube and playing on xbox vs playing on ps3 was like day and night, yes I liked more those playstation exclusives but online gaming was more consistent on the xbox and I had good internet, and it really showed since gta5 on xbox 360 had dedicated servers and on ps3 it was peer to peer
@basurerodej8501
@basurerodej8501 3 жыл бұрын
"Xbox doesn't love you" Yeah no sh*t, a multimillion dollar corporation does not care what a surprise
@moister3727
@moister3727 3 жыл бұрын
no shit, no company does
@fastest-man-alive
@fastest-man-alive 3 жыл бұрын
@@moister3727 Nintendo loves me
@ahumbledude757
@ahumbledude757 3 жыл бұрын
@@fastest-man-alive no they dont
@renkol123
@renkol123 3 жыл бұрын
What's more surprising is some people think massive corporations DO care (re:Black History Month, Gay Pride, National Women's Day, etc.)
@31ll087
@31ll087 3 жыл бұрын
@@fastest-man-alive Nintendo would sue a homeless man for singing a song that vaguely sounds like the Zelda theme.
@finn87632
@finn87632 3 жыл бұрын
The reason I got a ps4 was because I didn't think there was a fee for playing online. I was deeply mistaken.
@2phonebabykeem913
@2phonebabykeem913 3 жыл бұрын
There wasn’t on ps3 but they joined Microsoft’s wave once the ps4 came out
@theanxoiushero800
@theanxoiushero800 3 жыл бұрын
I was pissed when I found out you had to pay to play online. All these companies are the same
@DawgDanger
@DawgDanger 3 жыл бұрын
I was disappointed and mad that I had to pay for ps+ to have online multiplayer on PS4 because I was used to jot paying for it.
@TheEpicPancake
@TheEpicPancake 3 жыл бұрын
And the switch did the same for me. Stuff's bullshit
@ImTheMan0fSteel
@ImTheMan0fSteel 3 жыл бұрын
@@2phonebabykeem913 and ps3 had infinitely worse online features. Everyone agrees that ps3 had shitty online in comparison. Xbox live is worth it. Xbox gamepass ultimate is even more so. You are paying for the services. For their hosting of servers, for bonuses like free games (4 a month) large discounts on games, social services, and other networking services for matchmaking.
@darrenmeidl
@darrenmeidl 3 жыл бұрын
WHAT? A COMPANY DOING SOMETHING SHADY FOR MONEY?? There's no way.
@ryanmvpaucwxleyam3538
@ryanmvpaucwxleyam3538 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@Darkdaej
@Darkdaej 3 жыл бұрын
"Who'd have thought paying online for this service would ever have gone over well" Dude. When the original Xbox came out and I heard you had to pay to play your games online, my retort was: "Fuck that. I got a PC for online gaming." Honestly...I never really changed my mind about that.
@nunothedude
@nunothedude 3 жыл бұрын
Goof
@snuggie1849
@snuggie1849 3 жыл бұрын
Well props for sticking to your guns
@ErikNiceBoy
@ErikNiceBoy 3 жыл бұрын
Similar story, used to be a PS "fan boy", then Sony announces they're gonna start charging for online for the PS4 and I said "welp... it was about time I got me one of those fancy PCs", saved up some cash and got me a PC. Hands down the best investment I've ever made.
@nunothedude
@nunothedude 3 жыл бұрын
@@ErikNiceBoy same
@steppenhenge
@steppenhenge 3 жыл бұрын
@@ErikNiceBoy funny thing is theyd pulled me back to consoles with ps3, and the online fee for ps4 meant back to pc. My wife and I have a switch but nope to paying for something already there, artificially blocked.
@Endspiel81
@Endspiel81 3 жыл бұрын
if only people hadnt bent over and said "yes please" when they started charging for the privilege of multiplayer in the first place
@hrthrhs
@hrthrhs 3 жыл бұрын
I bent over and took it. It's my fault. But i was like 15 at the time.
@ananon5771
@ananon5771 3 жыл бұрын
@@hrthrhs at least you can admit the mistake now its our job to fix it
@happymolecule8894
@happymolecule8894 3 жыл бұрын
I stopped buying consoles when they made online paid. Just doesn't sit right with me. Feels like I'm getting scammed
@Mik-kv8xx
@Mik-kv8xx 3 жыл бұрын
You are. They bundle in some games that no one cares about so it doesn't seem that way.
@VColossalV
@VColossalV 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mik-kv8xx Xbox Game Pass Ultimate is mostly PC players. It is widely considered one of the best deals in gaming, that's why many Pc gamers use it - you get 100's of games, and a bunch of other bonuses like cloud game streaming for your mobile devices. So no, not games nobody cares about.
@Mik-kv8xx
@Mik-kv8xx 3 жыл бұрын
@@VColossalV I'm talking about ps plus and xbox live
@VColossalV
@VColossalV 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mik-kv8xx Ok, but Xbox Game Pass includes Gold. You are for sure not getting scammed with that, there exists no rival to the value provided.
@Mik-kv8xx
@Mik-kv8xx 3 жыл бұрын
@@VColossalV I *only* meant ps plus and xbox live when I was talking about scams
@saajith
@saajith 3 жыл бұрын
"you don't buy a Xbox for the games, you buy because your friends have it."
@MechanicWolf85
@MechanicWolf85 3 жыл бұрын
Untill those friends move to pc, and you start to ask yourself "why the hell do I even own an Xbox? "
@mervynlan7727
@mervynlan7727 3 жыл бұрын
@@MechanicWolf85 I get to Carry my Xbox all over the world, unlike ps5
@ryebread1678
@ryebread1678 3 жыл бұрын
@@mervynlan7727 because god forbid you go anywhere without your home console
@shinozaddy5939
@shinozaddy5939 3 жыл бұрын
@@mervynlan7727 nobody would steal an xbox if thats what you mean
@sparkybleu1737
@sparkybleu1737 3 жыл бұрын
@@shinozaddy5939 xD yeah, it's like having an old beaten up car, no one would ever wanna steal a piece of shit like an Xbox xD
@D00000T
@D00000T 3 жыл бұрын
feel like he’s using this video to also vent all his frustration he’s had with Microsoft in the past 20 years
@Abel-Alvarez
@Abel-Alvarez 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of videogamedunkey.
@Hambo325
@Hambo325 3 жыл бұрын
@@Abel-Alvarez but an intellectual. Dunkey had ascended
@Capt_Mortis
@Capt_Mortis 3 жыл бұрын
Some point he makes are obsolete by now. Like cant accses Netflix.
@Zorixas
@Zorixas 3 жыл бұрын
"What are you gonna do about it?" Play on PC and not buy any consoles. The question now is, "What are they gonna do about that?"
@RushGamma
@RushGamma 3 жыл бұрын
Well if ur on PC most likely microsoft is getting ur money anyways.
@VColossalV
@VColossalV 3 жыл бұрын
They don't need to do anything because high end PC's that compete with next gen consoles are far more expensive. Even the video explains it. That's the trade off, you get good hardware for cheap, and you pay for services. Game pass ultimate is also extremely good value for what you get, most of its subscribers are PC players.
@perverse_ince
@perverse_ince 3 жыл бұрын
@@RushGamma Install gentoo
@unlimited8410
@unlimited8410 3 жыл бұрын
@@RushGamma No they don't, no one company owns pc, its made up of multiple components from different companies so no not any one has much control over the pc market, windows is just an OS that is practically obsoleted by _free_ linux Operating Systems.
@themightymcb7310
@themightymcb7310 3 жыл бұрын
@@unlimited8410 Maybe for gaming, but for general use? Absolutely not. Lots of software that many folks use every day are unavailable on Linux.
@jason9875
@jason9875 3 жыл бұрын
When paying to play online became a thing, I almost couldn’t believe it lol
@hughmungus1154
@hughmungus1154 3 жыл бұрын
But corporate greed and our complacency ruined everything
@d4vid469
@d4vid469 3 жыл бұрын
@@buffkangaroodog except you dont need a 60/yr subscription on PC games buddy.
@d4vid469
@d4vid469 3 жыл бұрын
@@JOHNSMITH-sj3lg blizzard is a garbage company
@d4vid469
@d4vid469 3 жыл бұрын
@@JOHNSMITH-sj3lg no it absolutely wasnt.
@d4vid469
@d4vid469 3 жыл бұрын
@@buffkangaroodog there are 0 games on steam that need subscriptions btw wow is literally the only game that needs one
@TheTabascodragon
@TheTabascodragon 3 жыл бұрын
I think children used to make up a larger share, proportionally speaking, of the video game market when xbox live was introduced. Since it was their parents paying for it they didn't have to worry about the costs themselves. Thus, minimal complaints and opposition.
@TheRedCap30
@TheRedCap30 3 жыл бұрын
Also social media was practically in its infancy still. It was harder to spread awareness over stuff like this back then.
@CardCrusher29
@CardCrusher29 3 жыл бұрын
You have a good point about somebody else paying for it. It always confuses me when games that come with Gold or PS Plus is referred to as "free". It's not free if you have to pay money for for it.
@Maetthw
@Maetthw 3 жыл бұрын
The audio in this vid sounds so much better, keep up the great work!
@christopheralberti
@christopheralberti 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, thank you!
@shlimlop9619
@shlimlop9619 3 жыл бұрын
Yee
@CurtTheHero
@CurtTheHero 3 жыл бұрын
My thought exactly. Good on him. People will certainly notice bad audio but will not say anything if it's good audio so good job.. on the good audio
@belugaman6772
@belugaman6772 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I noticed too
@LazoeJSCREI
@LazoeJSCREI 3 жыл бұрын
How? It's still panned really bad, it's so much better to listen to if you force the player to mono
@Stickmanlolz
@Stickmanlolz 3 жыл бұрын
My least favorite excuse for having to pay for it is "What you can't afford $60 a year?" Of course I can, but I could also use that $60 for a brand new game of MY choosing or like 15 good steam games that I can play online for FREE
@AstonishingRed
@AstonishingRed 3 жыл бұрын
It’s like they hold epic tournaments to decide how bad they want to screw their reputation and the antagonist plowed through all the protagonist plot armor and won the tournament.
@mehdihassan8316
@mehdihassan8316 3 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this earlier, this channel was called Geography Hub
@bestbry1
@bestbry1 3 жыл бұрын
I never noticed the change hahahaha omggggg
@acatwithafancyhat5782
@acatwithafancyhat5782 3 жыл бұрын
Damn I feel old now
@kameronjones7139
@kameronjones7139 3 жыл бұрын
@@bestbry1 I think it has been well over a year since he has changed it
@creamstarter7147
@creamstarter7147 3 жыл бұрын
Can't believe it's been a few years, I feel old now
@FelipeJaquez
@FelipeJaquez 3 жыл бұрын
Paying for online beyond the internet provider itself is like buying a can of air in a dense forest.
@rlvideosgunner
@rlvideosgunner 2 жыл бұрын
And you still have to do it cause the air company poisoned all the plants
@TheHouseontheHill
@TheHouseontheHill 3 жыл бұрын
Just the fact that you have to pay to play online with friends when you can do so for free on PC, and that for the longest time you’ve had to pay in order to access FREE TO PLAY games, should be enough to indicate that Microsoft will fuck you with no Vaseline for as long as they can get away with it. Note: This is coming from a lifelong Xbox player that’s only recently made the switch to PC.
@TheDeadAlewives
@TheDeadAlewives 3 жыл бұрын
Reasons like that are why I'm glad I made the transition into PC gaming. I will say that I'm glad that Microsoft finally saw how viable the PC market is and started releasing their exclusives on PC as well as Xbox.
@blindedjourneyman
@blindedjourneyman 3 жыл бұрын
Ive been downgraded to a phone so I still to a few games with friends and emulation, but when I had a decent laptop let me tell ya I couldnt look back. Free games discounted games firesales n all...
@VColossalV
@VColossalV 3 жыл бұрын
Why the focus on Microsoft when Sony have been doing far more anti consumer moves these past years. Even in this video it fails to mention how GOOD game pass ultimate actually is, the video mentions it several times but doesn't mention that most of its subscribers are PC players. Why ignore that?
@ananon5771
@ananon5771 3 жыл бұрын
@@VColossalV gamepass is good,but that doesnt have anything to do with Xbox-live and the scam that is,gamepass for PC isnt even technically the same service Xbox-live is free on PC even,also this channel has videos on sony too doofus
@VColossalV
@VColossalV 3 жыл бұрын
@@ananon5771 It's an originally Xbox service by Microsoft, so they're obviously related. Just ignore Gold and get Game Pass, sorted. At least you have a choice.
@saajith
@saajith 3 жыл бұрын
Now Nintendo is charging money to play Online. Thank You Microsoft.
@bogie8
@bogie8 3 жыл бұрын
I miss Iwata
@lemurdog
@lemurdog 3 жыл бұрын
Nintendo switch online deluxe
@The1Wolfcast
@The1Wolfcast 3 жыл бұрын
They even inspired Sony to the same
@muizzsiddique
@muizzsiddique 3 жыл бұрын
Literally why I never bought a PS4 or a Switch. They announced that NSO was going to be paid the September 1 year later and no one cared until it was too late.
@GoodlyPenguin
@GoodlyPenguin 3 жыл бұрын
And Nintendo fans will continue to vehemently defend Nintendo charging for the shitty peer-to-peer service.
@tonraqkorr230
@tonraqkorr230 3 жыл бұрын
That's why my ps4 has been lying around for a year.
@iscreamloyalty887
@iscreamloyalty887 3 жыл бұрын
Both Sony and Microsoft just want the money it's obvious how money hungry they are.
@annieskywalker9290
@annieskywalker9290 3 жыл бұрын
And I played more With mi 3DS than With my switch
@CocoHutzpah
@CocoHutzpah 3 жыл бұрын
It trends. These are the same people who buy the same game every year with marginal to no iteration from the last edition.
@MisterZimbabwe
@MisterZimbabwe 3 жыл бұрын
There should be laws against people being tasteless morons who put market pressure for mediocrity on the rest of us who actually give a shit.
@crookeddoghomebrew9144
@crookeddoghomebrew9144 3 жыл бұрын
@@MisterZimbabwe imagine what the housing sector would look like with thoughs laws .
@MisterZimbabwe
@MisterZimbabwe 3 жыл бұрын
@@crookeddoghomebrew9144 A man can dream!
@ffejpsycho
@ffejpsycho 3 жыл бұрын
Man, no wonder I miss so many appointments!! All this time I thought the "Twenty-Second" day of the month was the one marked on the calender as "22", not "2" as this video has shown me! Thanks for the help!!
@kyotosinfinity5959
@kyotosinfinity5959 3 жыл бұрын
Facebook isn’t free, you are the product and advertisers pay to access such product.
@noviedeos
@noviedeos 3 жыл бұрын
Microsoft sells your data, for a fee
@fregatopolitis
@fregatopolitis 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like free to me
@kyotosinfinity5959
@kyotosinfinity5959 3 жыл бұрын
@@fregatopolitis yes the same way it’s free for dogs to be transported from pet store to owner.
@fregatopolitis
@fregatopolitis 3 жыл бұрын
@@kyotosinfinity5959 Look, I know you think you have outsmarted every company, but its rather simple. When I watch youtube, I dont spend any money and I watch videos for free. How is youtube free though? Ads! Facebook and youtube are free for me, they are the product (for me). But, while facebook is a product to me, I am a product on the advertiser's perspective and since I literally am not affected by that, I couldn't care less.
@kyotosinfinity5959
@kyotosinfinity5959 3 жыл бұрын
@@fregatopolitis you would be incorrect to think that, I definitely have not outsmarted every company. Evidence is my lack of millions/billions. Good try at a debate hook though :)
@negroider
@negroider 3 жыл бұрын
sony only started charging for online on ps3 after microsoft started doing it. this shit sucks man
@maxpawa9282
@maxpawa9282 3 жыл бұрын
So do sony care about you that much !!
@AlexHand
@AlexHand 3 жыл бұрын
"What are you going to do about it?" Guitar. Weed. Go for a hike. Come back when it's worth checking out again.
@KP3droflxp
@KP3droflxp 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry mate, you are mandated to buy subscription products by law now
@E4439Qv5
@E4439Qv5 3 жыл бұрын
@@KP3droflxp bruh, don't bring taxes into this...
@ashleylastname9091
@ashleylastname9091 3 жыл бұрын
3 months of gamepass every year at Christmas when it's a dollar gang rise up
@20thcentury_toy
@20thcentury_toy 3 жыл бұрын
I do that shit every month, I just need to make a new outlook account
@lavarball4470
@lavarball4470 3 жыл бұрын
@@20thcentury_toy here on sony side they patch every method that give us free ps plus
@20thcentury_toy
@20thcentury_toy 3 жыл бұрын
@@lavarball4470 that sucks, on christmas i got thre months for 1 dollar
@lavarball4470
@lavarball4470 3 жыл бұрын
@@20thcentury_toy yeah at least xbox isn't going on their way to patch every single method
@vamzee69
@vamzee69 3 жыл бұрын
TL,DR. No company cares about you, they're all just working to figure out the most efficient way to take money from your pocket in the sneakiest way possible.
@HotheadLad
@HotheadLad 3 жыл бұрын
Ah-em, PCs are where it is at. Thank you for coming to my Ted-Talk.
@snuggie1849
@snuggie1849 3 жыл бұрын
Serious question what kind of pc would a hard core gamer buy whos also looking into learning programming? I never bought my own yet other than potato laptops but now i need something with more power.
@seanonraet8327
@seanonraet8327 3 жыл бұрын
@@snuggie1849 unfortunately pc parts are in the same boat as the new consoles right now, out of stock. If you're interested I'd advise looking at a few tech channels and forums to see how much you're willing to spend even though it's going to take a while for things to get back in stock. I built a pc a couple of years ago and honestly it's so nice to have something that I know can deal with programmes unlike my old shitty laptop
@snuggie1849
@snuggie1849 3 жыл бұрын
@@seanonraet8327 ok, thanks for the info, ill start looking in more places for tips
@smileyfacism
@smileyfacism 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro!
@fiercelypolygons3696
@fiercelypolygons3696 3 жыл бұрын
But now PC parts cost more than the damn consoles and like 5 years of gold or PS+
@mstieferman
@mstieferman 3 жыл бұрын
The videos have really come a long way. Love what the channel has become. Keep up the great work!
@Mezelenja
@Mezelenja 3 жыл бұрын
i still remember the PS4 getting announced and the anger it stirred up when PS Plus fees were included, but then after like a month no one cared and I was absolutely dumbfounded. It got normalized so fast. Why tf would I pay to use something that's been free for YEARS. Corporate nonsense.
@lorddorogoth
@lorddorogoth 3 жыл бұрын
Casually ignores switch online.
@Mik-kv8xx
@Mik-kv8xx 3 жыл бұрын
He didn't
@sparkybleu1737
@sparkybleu1737 3 жыл бұрын
I mean it's $24 a year versus $180 for xbox and $60 for psn. You aren't totally wrong, they are totally doing the same thing as Sony and Xbox, but nintendo costs way less and you pay the $2 month to month so you just pay it whenever ya need to ask daddy nintendo to let you use the internet. It sucks, but if I had to keep one of the three it'd be nintendo, atleast its less than a meal from mcdonalds
@lorddorogoth
@lorddorogoth 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mik-kv8xx yes but also no
@Mik-kv8xx
@Mik-kv8xx 3 жыл бұрын
@@sparkybleu1737 nintendo online is horrible, it lags non stop despite a solid connection
@abelsm6270
@abelsm6270 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone: you're a trillion dollar company why do you not do what the people want for once Microsoft: I like money
@njord1697
@njord1697 3 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early, this channel was still about traditional knowledge
@justinbackert1567
@justinbackert1567 3 жыл бұрын
“Consoles are cheap” > Precedes to show a $500 console
@crashed6510
@crashed6510 3 жыл бұрын
Compared to PC's there cheap in terms of video game systems
@tomjack1000000
@tomjack1000000 3 жыл бұрын
@@crashed6510 £500 nowadays can get you something standard especially if you add what you spend on subscription
@TheAtomicSpoon
@TheAtomicSpoon 3 жыл бұрын
@@crashed6510 You makeup for that in online subscriptions and game prices. All has to be factored in.
@boomboom6410
@boomboom6410 3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure he said aren't but it sounded like are. Edit: Ok...I can't tell anymore...
@Ice8582
@Ice8582 3 жыл бұрын
Cheap to make, expensive to buy sadly
@qliphalpuzzle5453
@qliphalpuzzle5453 3 жыл бұрын
Tyler from Knowledgehub: sassing corporatism for 4 years and counting Edit: I’ll say Consumerism for the pricks in the back-yes I’m talking to you, Officer Pimp
@0fficerpimp
@0fficerpimp 3 жыл бұрын
This isn't corporatism. You people sound so dumb corporation increased prices they are the epitome of evil. Corporatism would be the government bailing out corporations or the current situation with social media conglomerates
@glasket_
@glasket_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@0fficerpimp That's not corporatism either, that's crony capitalism. Corporatism is a completely separate economic/political ideology that has to do with the organization of society by common interests.
@AmusingMusic
@AmusingMusic 3 жыл бұрын
@@glasket_ Finally someone who knows the fucking difference
@0fficerpimp
@0fficerpimp 3 жыл бұрын
@@glasket_ I stand corrected, my apologies.
@dr.skinnypenis2078
@dr.skinnypenis2078 3 жыл бұрын
@@0fficerpimp owning up for saying something wrong? *BASED*
@NinjaRodent
@NinjaRodent 3 жыл бұрын
"What are you gonna do about it?" Buy all consoles/console games used and play online games exclusively on PC.
@Doxxy0
@Doxxy0 3 жыл бұрын
"Worse product that costs money when a free, BETTER alternative exists." now this is a perfect description of every single console with a paid online function.
@tubegerm6732
@tubegerm6732 3 жыл бұрын
it's also a perfect description for piracy
@ordinary_magician
@ordinary_magician 3 жыл бұрын
When I was 11, one of the 2 reasons I never wanted a PS4 or Xbone and got the Wii U instead was because I didn’t want to pay for multiplayer. I was really disappointed to see a Microsoft cultural victory in 2017 with what happened with Switch’s online but then again they are a company too so I should’ve seen that as inevitable.
@maxpawa9282
@maxpawa9282 3 жыл бұрын
So it's microsoft fault because the other ones followed!!
@NottJoeyOfficial
@NottJoeyOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
In some ways, Nintendo is the worst fucking offender of the big three.
@Blue-Apple-fc9eo
@Blue-Apple-fc9eo 2 жыл бұрын
@@NottJoeyOfficial what’s that mean
@Blue-Apple-fc9eo
@Blue-Apple-fc9eo 2 жыл бұрын
@@maxpawa9282 yea pretty much
@maxpawa9282
@maxpawa9282 2 жыл бұрын
@@Blue-Apple-fc9eo Therefore it's sony's fault because games are now $70 since they start it first!
@justderp5713
@justderp5713 3 жыл бұрын
Man... I wish gaming went back to simpler stuff like this- “Damn bro you gotta pay 60$ a year for online multiplayer???”. Xbooty 360 vs Poop Station 3 was awesome. Shame everything nowadays has gone bad- not in the good “9 year old on black ops telling you he did your mom”, but in the “Pride and accomplishment”, “Every game is broken on launch now”, and “RIP basically every franchise owned by a major publisher” way.
@Jonathan-fb1kj
@Jonathan-fb1kj 3 жыл бұрын
I miss the old Black Ops 1 and 2 and Modern Warfare 3 days, its how I met a shit ton of my current Steam and Discord friends.
@vanillajombi
@vanillajombi 3 жыл бұрын
at first I was like “ YEAH Ultima Online shout out” but then I was like “fuck I’m old”
@bigbro404
@bigbro404 3 жыл бұрын
"Xbox doesn't love you" what?! You mean this box an immanent object that is made by a corporation doesn't love me?! Insanity. Pure insanity.
@iWookie911
@iWookie911 3 жыл бұрын
This video is like 15 years late dude. We've long accepted paying for multiplayer access on console and it's an industry standard. I'm happy to pay a monthly fee that 1) Will deter toxic players who would only have access if it was free 2) Allows publishers to lower costs on consoles and hardware, and 3) These companies making more money means more products which equates to more games. I'm all good here 🤙
@jhonnypeligro1159
@jhonnypeligro1159 3 жыл бұрын
It's only an standard practice thanks to people like you, it was a bad business practice then and it still is now. 1) because muting and reporting mean people after a game is so hard right? 2) what you don't pay when actually buying the console you will pay it with live/psn 3) games would be profitable enough regardless. People like you are a blight for this industry
@iWookie911
@iWookie911 3 жыл бұрын
@@jhonnypeligro1159 You don't even remotely understand money do you? The companies are going to get paid one way or the other. Taking away mp costs would only reallocate payments somewhere else. They began charging in the first place because the size and quality of games was increasing exponentially but the POS cost of a game stayed the same for a looong time. So as costs to make games went up, and profits plateoud, they had to implement further charges. They chose to put it in front of mp. Which to me is better than locking away let's say story content? What piece of your game do *you* prefer behind a pay wall if you're so smart? Because production costs are going to get covered regardless of your hurt feelings.
@iWookie911
@iWookie911 3 жыл бұрын
Call of Duty 2 is the game credited for establishing the $60 valuation. You wanna sit here and tell me the quality of game is the same as when CoD2 came out? (Not modern warfare 2 either, "Call of Duty 2").
@jhonnypeligro1159
@jhonnypeligro1159 3 жыл бұрын
@@iWookie911 that's bulllshit tho, games right now are more profitable than ever before thanks to things like microtransactions, DLC and digital copies since they don't have to rely in physical stores anymore, none of these would be a thing if paid mp was done in order to prevent paywalls in the games themselves like you seem to believe, also AAA games are so expensive nowadays because of marketing expenses more than the actual productions costs.
@iWookie911
@iWookie911 3 жыл бұрын
@@jhonnypeligro1159 Right. But dlc costs share between publishers developers, etc. Mp costs are for the most part, allocated to publishers. Developers need more money, publishers need it, marketing companies need, it. And a dlc, a physical game, a digital game etc profits are all shared between these entities differently. You're on the right track, but you're generalizing and missing a few points. And your homeboy with the KZfaq channel here should be leading you in the right direction not making crap up. We can't establish consumer friendly monetization strategies if channels like these spin us in circles.
@postalbear3695
@postalbear3695 3 жыл бұрын
Paying to play online is the biggest scam of this century.
@Tsukiko.97
@Tsukiko.97 3 жыл бұрын
Watching this on the KZfaq app on my Xbox
@CardCrusher29
@CardCrusher29 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, you paid Microsoft money just to access KZfaq...........
@madcat789
@madcat789 3 жыл бұрын
Comfort me Cortana-Clone, this man is speaking the truth again.
@AxxLAfriku
@AxxLAfriku 3 жыл бұрын
WARNING I am the unprettiest human alive and I need YT to afford my house and the desires of my two girlfriends so please observe my highly stimulating videos, dear cat
@madcat789
@madcat789 3 жыл бұрын
@@AxxLAfriku Cortana-Clone, consume his Credit Rating.
@bonjolor8298
@bonjolor8298 3 жыл бұрын
cbt
@ELVEVERX
@ELVEVERX 3 жыл бұрын
This neglects the fact that in the early 2000nds and even into the 2010 xbox offered far better online servers options communication options unlike sony.
@MagicHamsta
@MagicHamsta 3 жыл бұрын
What am I going to do about it? I've tried nothing and I'm all out of ideas!
@MechanicWolf85
@MechanicWolf85 3 жыл бұрын
I love how they are making me not miss switching from consoles, Sony and Micro (and now Nintendo) just seems to keep going under more and more with this "deals" Also no, a good pc might cost you from $800 to $1200 but remember, in the long run you get great deals from steam, you don't have to pay for online, and if something happens a quick Google search can help you fix it instead of waiting for Microsoft to update the Xbox for the 20the time while your internet runs on 8kb per minutes.
@TheDeadAlewives
@TheDeadAlewives 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I think the main reason a lot of people don't make the transition into PC gaming is because they're intimidated by building or maintaining said PC. That's why it took me so long to finally make the change...up until I finally did some research and "man up", so to say, and built my computer. One of the best investments I ever made.
@eugeemz6591
@eugeemz6591 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheDeadAlewives for me its the fact that my parents wont pay for something as expensive as a pc
@TheDeadAlewives
@TheDeadAlewives 3 жыл бұрын
@@eugeemz6591 That's understandable. Hope in the future you afford to build your own, bud.
@hauntedbunnies6522
@hauntedbunnies6522 3 жыл бұрын
He wasn’t making the point that paying for Xbox live was cheaper, just that many people can afford that in the short term but not dropping a thousand on a new pc.
@jonathanleon4966
@jonathanleon4966 3 жыл бұрын
You do not even have to drop 800$ for a pc sometimes if you just like playing good single player or indie games you will be fine with a 500$ pc
@loganstage5418
@loganstage5418 3 жыл бұрын
That closing music is crisp
@Bellomancer
@Bellomancer 3 жыл бұрын
glad this one has way better audio quality. good on you, man. love ya
@kyrzixxi
@kyrzixxi 3 жыл бұрын
last time i was this early it was school 5 years ago and the doors werent unlocked
@LorcanG
@LorcanG 3 жыл бұрын
Never understood why console gamers enjoy getting railed by Microsoft and Sony
@Gabeslicor
@Gabeslicor 3 жыл бұрын
1:54 ISP artillery only flashbacks intensify.
@mazorcapawah9372
@mazorcapawah9372 3 жыл бұрын
Finally fixed the audio, good job!
@tothemax7432
@tothemax7432 3 жыл бұрын
Screen “January 2nd” Tyler “January 2,200,000nd” Tyler is always right
@HaaraaldEriksson
@HaaraaldEriksson 3 жыл бұрын
"What are you gonna do about it?" Laugh in PC masterrace.
@fryone
@fryone 3 жыл бұрын
When the video starts with january 2nd and guy says 22nd, you know the content is worth it
@danielmatsui4336
@danielmatsui4336 3 жыл бұрын
One of the reasons I switched from my xbox 360 to PC was the staggering difference between games' prices in the two platforms. Of course, you still could buy pirated games in the Xbox and play online, but the reliability of still supporting the producer and being able to play without paying was something so surprising to me that since then I never bought a console again.
@ThatWhiteHand
@ThatWhiteHand 3 жыл бұрын
I bought my PC for the price a PS5 currently costs, back in 2019. I can still run CP2077 at High settings with 60fps 1080p, though usually I wait until later in a consoles life and just buy it to physically preserve my single player games. Free online = I use it to play online games, paid online + discs = I just use it to play discs. If Xbox and PS lose the disc trays in the future, I will never have reason to buy a console again when my PC for the same price has infinitely more value, at the loss of physical media.
@Miguel-ou2py
@Miguel-ou2py 3 жыл бұрын
Specs ?
@Jonathan-fb1kj
@Jonathan-fb1kj 3 жыл бұрын
@@Miguel-ou2py If you know where to look you can buy a beefy PC for like $800 with still more space to add better parts to.
@fiercelypolygons3696
@fiercelypolygons3696 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jonathan-fb1kj $800? No thanks, I'm better off buying a console with 3 years of multiplayer.
@Jonathan-fb1kj
@Jonathan-fb1kj 3 жыл бұрын
@@fiercelypolygons3696 Suit yourself, next gen consols cost more than that but with that money you can get a PC that'll remain non-obsolete for like a decade or so. (pre-2010 PCs are ass though)
@oswaldfigglebottom
@oswaldfigglebottom 3 жыл бұрын
Buuuuttt big companyyy LOVES me, whhhyyy on earth would they SCAAAMMMMM ME 😞😮
@Gameprojordan
@Gameprojordan 3 жыл бұрын
Never stan a corporation, they are only there to sell you a product or service. Thinking of them anything other than that is cringe, they arent your friend and they don't care about you. They're using marketing strategies to manipulate you into thinking they and their product are the best thing ever
@nielk.
@nielk. 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gameprojordan I think the guy is just trolling
@anotherguycalled6253
@anotherguycalled6253 3 жыл бұрын
That background music = nostalgia
@thecoldceltic9520
@thecoldceltic9520 3 жыл бұрын
The audio is more prominent on the right side. I thought I was going deaf until an ad came on
@UnknownTuber450
@UnknownTuber450 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's ridiculous that we have to pay to use the internet when paying a tax for it in one form or another. I was surprise that there wasn't a large outrage when Nintendo added switch online
@mandisaw
@mandisaw 3 жыл бұрын
Most Nintendo games are designed for single-player or local co-op
@UnknownTuber450
@UnknownTuber450 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that makes sense, I still hear people locally talk about how it made no sense yet no large out cry from what I seen.
@indeed260
@indeed260 3 жыл бұрын
There was a large outcry
@ben5056
@ben5056 3 жыл бұрын
PC is the way, consoles will nickel and dime you into paying more than you would for a PC and games
@wojak-sensei6424
@wojak-sensei6424 3 жыл бұрын
If only PC games can stop being bugged to all hell and expect modders to fill in the blanks. Then again, this is the case for every major game now. Why did this industry not crash a decade or so ago?
@ben5056
@ben5056 3 жыл бұрын
@@wojak-sensei6424 because we keep buying them
@ditswav
@ditswav 3 жыл бұрын
@@wojak-sensei6424 LOL you think every PC game is "bugged"? Also, in the games I play, I haven't encountered a single modder. So don't debate on this stuff if you don't have a PC...
@kieferkarpfen6897
@kieferkarpfen6897 3 жыл бұрын
@@ditswav Have you played gta online.
@ditswav
@ditswav 3 жыл бұрын
@@kieferkarpfen6897 Isn't it like that on every single platform?
@audo6848
@audo6848 3 жыл бұрын
props to ya for fixing the audio bro
@TBoneTony
@TBoneTony 3 жыл бұрын
When I became an adult, I was already paying for monthly services, they were the Car Insurance and Registration, the Health Insurance, the Gas bill, the electricity bill, the water bill and the Internet bill. Can't afford to pay to play online multiplayer on a console like the XBox Live or PlayStation Network and the only online console I ever used was the original Nintendo Wii between 2006 to 2010 to download Virtual Console games and play Mario Kart Wii. Happy my only online console experiences were from that era because expecting me to pay to play online with all the stuff I have to juggle in my monthly life is too much. Thus is the reason why I stay single player and don't pay to play any services. Games are Products, NOT Services.
@AModernRogue
@AModernRogue 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't even realize how early I started watching this. Screenshotted it with no views listed, but the comments had already started to flow
@kurtweinstein8450
@kurtweinstein8450 3 жыл бұрын
I gotta say the price argument against PC appears surprisingly weak to me. I'm using an relatively old and mid range set of parts ranging from 3-6 years old and can still run new games at medium settings.
@Noah-xl7md
@Noah-xl7md 3 жыл бұрын
"What are you gonna do about it" Me: (Orders PC Parts and builds a gaming rig)
@mrb3nz
@mrb3nz 3 жыл бұрын
Jim Sterling once coined a term for this - solution selling (or something like that). When companies deliberately make their product worse and then sell you the "solution". Like disconnecting the console from the internet unless you pay for it. It's mad that they can get away with this
@j.peters1222
@j.peters1222 3 жыл бұрын
I was an Xbox Live member for almost 10 years until I invested in a gaming PC. Now I wonder why I didn't do it sooner.
@curt6926
@curt6926 3 жыл бұрын
I'm actually just gonna switch to pc in a year as I'll have a job by then
@ferrisbueller873
@ferrisbueller873 3 жыл бұрын
6:30 nostalgia, a bag of full of nostalgia juice hung up and hooked to an IV, the drip mainlining drop by drop baby
@rocko7711
@rocko7711 3 жыл бұрын
I love these game focused videos
@ncrvako
@ncrvako 3 жыл бұрын
tyler, you seem not to like not a single game company services. is there a company that you consider decent?
@nerosr2393
@nerosr2393 3 жыл бұрын
What is a decent company? The point is not never consume/use anything, just that all companys will pass the line if you allow it, payd online is a standard because back at the 360 days, people payed for it, later on , on future consoles sony and nintendo took advantage of that as well, thats all
@MegaHellstrike
@MegaHellstrike 3 жыл бұрын
Paying for online always felt strange to me, never understood why people would pay a monthly extra to be forced to use controllers and to be on generally weaker hardware for the price
@kieferkarpfen6897
@kieferkarpfen6897 3 жыл бұрын
I am to lazy to learn to play with a keyboard
@popcornjoestar5709
@popcornjoestar5709 3 жыл бұрын
"microsoft doesnt love you" couldnt figure that one out
@deletedTestimony
@deletedTestimony 2 жыл бұрын
Not for nothing but this is why Nintendo's $20 a year is not really troubling to me
@blutshooter
@blutshooter 3 жыл бұрын
so as a neutral pc,ps,xbox player let me see. PSN needs to be paid and has shitty monthly games AND not working servers Xbox gold needs to be paid and has good monthly games and working servers. sooo? i dont see your point. The only thing im playing on a playstation are the exlusives.
@alfredowkwk
@alfredowkwk 3 жыл бұрын
Nintendo be like : ooh microsoft is making money over there, we should follow the trend ✌️🤝
@tubegerm6732
@tubegerm6732 3 жыл бұрын
and then they forgot to make the online work
@yeezet4592
@yeezet4592 3 жыл бұрын
@@tubegerm6732 lmao
@JuanSanchez-qp1xp
@JuanSanchez-qp1xp 3 жыл бұрын
I remember when someone would leave in a mw2 match and it would say finding host because the person with best connection left. Good times
@Giggles_iJest
@Giggles_iJest 3 жыл бұрын
I haven’t bought online subscription-based anything (on consoles) in the last... 1 year. I wanna make a point to the corporates.
@happymolecule8894
@happymolecule8894 3 жыл бұрын
Buy a pc already, homie. A good budget pc can cost 700 dollars. You'll be saving a lot on games from sales, you can even pirate if you want. Also, free online
@Giggles_iJest
@Giggles_iJest 3 жыл бұрын
@@happymolecule8894 One day. When I live by my own earnings.
@TimelostInTheSauce
@TimelostInTheSauce 3 жыл бұрын
i literally just use Microsoft rewards and make alt accounts to get Xbox Game Pass for $1
@crutch517
@crutch517 3 жыл бұрын
Person of culture
@kazum9746
@kazum9746 3 жыл бұрын
This is the way
@thebush6077
@thebush6077 3 жыл бұрын
I feel the future is just computers. Kinda like what the steamos tried to do.
@cattysplat
@cattysplat 3 жыл бұрын
Always has been.
@yaerukun
@yaerukun 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the better audio
@snailairy
@snailairy 2 жыл бұрын
But let's talk about how Sony's forcing you to pay for demos and trials.
@lucash653
@lucash653 3 жыл бұрын
Say it louder for the people in the back.
@jujao4339
@jujao4339 3 жыл бұрын
"Consoles are cheap" Laughs and cry in 3rd world country
@hadookin47
@hadookin47 3 жыл бұрын
Compared to a flagship phone these days
@yunikohh
@yunikohh 3 жыл бұрын
The price raise for xbox live gold is what made my friend have to change consoles
@bluenightfury4365
@bluenightfury4365 3 жыл бұрын
Consoles are the whole reason I said "When I grow up im getting a PC" they just are a bigger waste of money in the long run than a PC which has backwards compatiablity, only downside is, some games arent available on PC.
@bluenightfury4365
@bluenightfury4365 3 жыл бұрын
Well I was talking more along the lines like most PS2 games I played as a kid like Midnight club 3, I missed racing games like that but yeah most games are on PC nowadays.
@ineedlean
@ineedlean 3 жыл бұрын
This sounds like the same old grumpy man complaints against Netflix in 2009
@XenoZen_
@XenoZen_ 3 жыл бұрын
They might as well make online free. They been earning so much money this year lol.
@prw56
@prw56 3 жыл бұрын
I was gonna say "They never scammed me, I never payed for it.", then I remembered that I still bought games for a system that essentially didn't have an internet connection for the same price as I could have for another console that did.
@profeseurchemical
@profeseurchemical 3 жыл бұрын
same
@themarky2714
@themarky2714 3 жыл бұрын
Dunkey's Microsoft Sucks video still holds true after all these years.
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