I like that for this class they named the positionals appropriately. "Hey this is your flank strike and this is your rear strike" being easy to see without having to read the tooltip will help people while learning the job.

Viper in a nutshell: Samurai 40's buffs Monk positionals Dragoon OGCD's Ninja attack speed Reaper 5 move burst

Still feel that I'll only understand this one once I actually get to play it. The original showcase lost me completely and while I get it more now, I feel I'll only truly understand when I start pushing buttons and figure things out

Is it weird that my most burning question for Viper is 'can you /cpose or something to hold the weapon in twinblade form out of combat?'

Not a fan of the twin blade at all but I love the increased chaos and attack speed of the dual blades and burst window.

I really like the blade gauge, it's very intuitive to look at once you understand the left/right blade concept, means that you can pretty much ignore half your hotbar

Im definitely using that one button hotbar option for viper

Viper potencies are crazy. 6000 potency with no aoe falloff on blue mode.

I need this job yesterday and then some The animations, the combos, the aesthetics, god yes June can’t end fast enough

The effects look amazing

Selfish Dps with a gcd speed of a ninja/monk? Dancer is gona love viper XD

In the initial job trailer, I hated the blue effects. Now that I can see them fully, I love it.

Viper is the job I’ve been most hyped for. I started putting together my Lloyd Irving cosplay glam as soon as it was announced and I saw the dual swords

Appreciate the breakdown of Viper. It doesn't seem like a class for me but I have several friends that are rather excited for it.

I really like viper, I am thinking of doing the main story with it, looks fun to play.

Wow seems really simplistic

After about 2 years time to dust off and get back into the grind with this new job!

Looks really cool. I wont be playing it but its flashy and I think I have a few friends who like its fast paced nature

feels a lot like samurai 2 with rpr being the main design inspiration

This job is going to take some trial and error to set on controller hotbar to get the flow down. Loving the playstyle, though if I'm being honest MNK is also looking tempting again. Having an AOE heal may make it valuable in progs.

So basically monk, reaper, ninja and samurai into one! Yayyy

Follow the dotted line ............ Is this going to be the new Stand & Let Thing Resolve ?

So they put all the cut elements of other jobs into Viper? I am here for it, looks so fun and fluid. Not sure if I’ll switch off Ninja for it but hey, don’t really need to thanks to the shared gear.

Reawaken only coming on at 90 hurts so much. I felt like reaper had nothing to do until 80, and getting roulette as low as 70 felt bad. I worry viper will feel boring until 90 with this in mind?

Oh boy, I'm gonna see a LOT of Kirito rps

So for what I understand, it has like almost all skills doubled, one for Left and one for right? If I didn't count wrong looks like we should have enought space, for the people who plays with pad, to put all the Left skills on the Left trigger and the right skills on the right trigger. For me it's very usefull to divide skills like this, I do it with BLM (all Fire Skills to the R, all ice to the L) or with RDM (black magic in Right side and White magic in the left). I will try to main this with my Lalafel, i hope i don't lose the track of my little dude with all this lights and movements lol. Really considering using FINALLY a phantasya to change race since 1.0 but I am kinda attached to my little guy.

it looks cool, definitely gonna be my brain-off job

Basically Reaper 2.0 but busier, not complaining tho as i already liked Reaper.

Sounds a lot like a DNC, but with alternate actions depending on what you get.

i'm looking for a easy / less button job - would you say this might be a good fit?

Hi Mr happy im sorry if this is an irrelevant question but does viper have an out of combat spell (like an aoe for example or a buff) that can be used to put you in the combined sword stance? The reason im asking is for the when you’re in city states and want to idle with your swords combined as the dual blade

Actually I use the dancer job guage for dancing

Sounds like Vpr has a bit of everything the other Melee gang has / had + some Ranged and Caster, Mnk / Drg / Rpr's positionals, Mnk / Sam / Nin's Haste and Dmg buffs, Rpr's Enshroud burst, and then Mch / Dnc's procs, and Rdm's Melee combo kinda... all it's missing is a DoT, but I can get why the devs are trying to move away from those. Looks fun to play so far especially with Left / Right blade mechs, and can finally have a class to match an Assassin's Creed glam moreso than Nin. Hope the melee job designs take some cues (or get some of their old stuff back in different forms, Mnk lost their positionals and buffs for this? WTF) for fun job mechanics in 8.0, copium Will prob lvl it last since there'll be way too many Vprs for a while

Here I was thinking I wasn’t get my bi-yearly job breakdown videos! My favorite part of gaming is watching things change (for better or for worse) over time. So glad to be wrong! Now excuse me, I’ll be chain watching this playlist a few times in a row 😊

I just realized there's one thing the flashing lights don't tell you...which positional is coming up 😂

Viper feels like a strange love child of reaper, samurai and gunbreaker. The big gauge spender to enter turbo mode, the buff (and debuff) combo maintenance from branching combos and a huge number of ogcd weaving for follow ups to attacks. Even their ranged combo feels like an inversion of what Red Mage has for their melee combo, although I guess it doesn’t have a gauge cost.

the gunbreaker of DPS

Follow the dotted line

As someone who is still playing through the MSQ (Just finished SHB), and did almost all of that on Samurai, I am now finding out that it was a very bad idea to not switch jobs because man I am confused. Not gonna give up trying to learn this though!

If Hunter's Sting can become both Flanksting Strike and Hindsting Strike, what determines which it turns into the first time?

Like the Job but I'm immediately switching its Job Gauge to "Simple" mode as soon as I unlock it

10:50 going forward, we might have less time to look at our hot bars due to an increes of marker attacks.

I'm reeeeaaally hoping they'll give us the option to dissociate the 2 main combos buttons into 123's, it would help a lot to get a feel for the job. It's weird to me that they did it like this in the first place, since the stacking/transforming buttons system doesn't even allow it for the rest of the jobs (from what i understand)

I'll be honest, I'm still confused. It'll probably make more sense when I can press the buttons myself, though as a controller player my brain is short circuiting trying to visualise how to place the skills on my cross hotbar. Especially if I want to avoid putting instant skills on the d-pad so I can still move and use them at the same time. Definitely glad they added the pvp style combos on a single button, that's for sure.

Finally, a class for my unga bonga brain to always push a button

So I got a ton of weapon and gear crates unopened saving them to open as a viper has that worked in the past or can it only be older class weapons

I'm definitely going to play this as my off melee job as i really love twinblades and Zidane/Gabranth which it's clearly aping... but im also not really impressed. After learning ad hoc samurai and seeing real results from figuring out how each subsequent even and odd window is meant to go in fights i'm slightly miffed at a job that looks like you can get massive damage out of nothing. Then again RPRs not a hard job and it's really strong too now. Oh well

Can you unconsolidate the buttons? I don't want to just press 1-2 over and over for my filler.

Follow the dotted line!

Kirito the class

Going to be Reaper or Viper for my melee dps of choice as this won’t be my raid job it will be what everyone feels more fun to me!

first through fourth generation is literally just Starburst Stream from Kirito in SAO

Curious how it'll work with controler. Ninja is already a finger dance

OUROBOROS... to be read in the RE5 Wesker voice each time.

Would Reawaken interrupt Dreadwinder's combo?

I know you like the job Mr.Happy 😊 Your always hard on the jobs you feel like you might play next But in the end you become a beast at it

Anyone else feel like this is old monk and reaper combined into one job? lol

I guarantee you they will change the dot on Dread Fangs just like they did for the other dps

These ability names are a mouthful, my word.

It's looking like Viper is overall gauge positive, so Uncoiled Fury not giving gauge shouldn't be a problem I think.

something that seems to not be mentioned anywhere i look, are vipers 1 2 3 combos able to be separated? instead if having 2 buttons that change? the changing buttons confuse the shit outa me...

@__@ This seems like a lot to me but I'm sure that once I pick it up it'll feel easier to maintain.

Wish it had a little more mastery than following the dotted line

Im playing through the msq. If I stop the story at 80 then wait for DT to come out can I continue the story with Viper or picto(since they start at 80)?

six positionals. i'm in love

FOLLOW THE DOTTED LINE

I've tried to play this at least 3 times today and I just DON'T GET IT.

In my time we called it "Gladiator"

The selfishness feels appropriate. No defense, no support, just constant and unrelenting attacks ripping the enemy apart.

So, what you're saying is: "Viper is kind of 'hand-holdy' in terms of rotation and a bit one-note"? Good thing healer jobs got those buffs so the "unga-bunga Darth Maul dance partner targets" can take the top of the dps charts. Sounds fun though

Making a class called viper without a Dot is wild.

FOLLOW THE DOTTED LINED :p

Isn't that a combination of Reaper and Monk? You have your damage debuff, a damage buff and a speed buff.

I always wanted there to be a speed demon in the game, monk and ninja didnt do it for me and reaper was too edgy/magical for me so i didnt like the fantasy there either, this will be one if not my favorite job to play this expansion

I'm just sad they didn't call "Reawaken" Trance lol

Think I'll be sticking with Monk and Ninja. I suppose jobs like this have their place, but it'll be hard-pressed to hold the interest of vets-just like Reaper before it.

Its a damn shame there was no Zidane moves in this kit unless I missed some

Whole I intend to main this. I don't know how well it will translate to in game hard to take this over ninja. Should have had a party buff of some kind but whatever.

So the only real cooldowns Viper has to track are the 120s Serpent's Ire to add 1 Rattling Coil and the 40s twinblade weaponskill combo starter (I'm not really counting Slither)? This job is going to take even less hotbar space than Reaper, and with how hard they're going in on consolidating actions into fewer buttons here, you can't even really mess up your combo. I'm not sure how I feel about this design philosophy for a job that's supposed to be a selfish DPS, it appears to be even easier to play than SAM even if you take positionals into account.

It’s pretty awesome that they named an action after me

I am still not entirely sure when to actually switch to dual-blade or is that something that's just in the moves?

Looking forward to main the class but now having no defense and no raid buff it’s a tough spot in pf vs samurai who already established and at least have third eye idk viper needs to be the strongest dps in order to survive in this economy it’s almost came out unfished imo or they didn’t know what else to add to melee to make it different we could’ve had a unique version of trick maybe one boosting 1.5 damage the entire fight now just the flat buff like every 2 minutes but we will see how it goes

I always feel haste > dmg I have the need for speed

I was with Happy on this one at first, didn't really tell me much as job identity and it just looked like a potentially fun to learn/play job but that's it. However, the more I see coverage about it, the more I grow to like it; seems like a very min/max type of job, with lots of particular nuances and options to optimize your rotations. I'll be looking forward to it and will definitely give it a fair chance, I do like the overall fast paced rogue aesthetic and it's a nice contrast with the other Scouting job for sure.

Well.. I am moving from healer to melee dps, so it will be great for me to have an "easy do understand" job to play as. But considering how you just follow the doted line, you really have no room to make mistakes and it can get to a point of, are we really playing a MMORPG game or are we just player a fancy version of whac-a-mole? Not far from a press a button to damage class lol But well, I am a WHM main and it will be my first time commiting to a dps on a mmo so... it will be great for me as an introductory class lol

Looks dope but the pauses kinda mess it up a little but the whole right and left blade thing sounds like it’s perfect for controller having them on the right r2 hotbar and l2 for left blade it would have been dope if the holsters where on your back crossed x

.... how the hell am I supposed to fit all that on to a controller setup!?

Can't say I'm ever a big fan of "follow the dotted line" mostly just because I'm blind af, and sometimes I can't see the damn dotted line.

Hmm I'm worried it'll run into the same issue RPR had in Endwalker where when you're forced out of melee you won't have enough gauge to do a double or triple reawaken during the burst windows since their ranged abilities don't give gauge.

Seems way too fast for higher ping players but I guess we’ll seee

just follow the lined dots

Purely selfish dps kinda surprises me. Hopefully they stack up well against blm and sam. Either way, I'm stoked for viper. They literally made this job for unga bunga players like me who always felt ffxiv's combat was just a tad bit too slow.

.......................................i dont get it.

Ripping out a mechanic from Reaper for the brand new job is possibly the laziest thing they’ve done in a long time lol

am i blind or viper doesnt have any self mit??

Am I the only one that did not understood anything?

Love that it's a selfish DPS. If I wanted to play support I'd roll a support class; I'm here to kill shit.

Viper is flashy and stylish, but... Introducing a new DPS that a bunch of people will be trying out without a personal defensive seems ripe for floor tanking.

That is my rule for all DPS, follow the dotted line. If it is proced, use it.

A selfish dual wield dps? This appeals to the wow player in me