Yamaha SEQTRAK - It's Not For Me But Is It For You? Hands On Review NervousCook$

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NervousCook$

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5 ай бұрын

In todays episode I look at the new SEQTRAK from Yamaha and explain why I'm returning mine to the store. Enjoy
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@richardcarr3172
@richardcarr3172 5 ай бұрын
An unbiased and fair-minded gear review on youtube. What the hell?
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
Thank you! It’s probably because I actually bought it with my own money! 😂
@MyNameJeff..
@MyNameJeff.. 5 ай бұрын
@@nervouscooks Exactly. I don't trust any gear KZfaqrs because of that. Your review is refreshing.
@Boumclap
@Boumclap 5 ай бұрын
Yeah weird video man.😂
@Th3rdFloor
@Th3rdFloor 5 ай бұрын
Great unbiased and very transparent review. Absolutely respect your honesty and opinion on your user experience. I commend you sir! 🙏 Too many out there would have most certainly taken advantage and glossed over or even bashed this unit in regards to the things that you raised and spoke about in this video! Thanks for sharing and I’m sure this video will most certainly help those who are considering purchasing the SEQTRAK get a true insight before purchasing the unit.👍👍👍
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
@@Th3rdFloor thank you! 👍
@kobib6641
@kobib6641 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much !! It's crazy how hyped I was buying this and then I actually saw you using it and thought to myself what a nightmare to play on this thing ! amazing job and thank you for the review, I love space, you helped me understand that !
@izraelservantofalmightygod
@izraelservantofalmightygod 5 ай бұрын
Brother i know what you are talking about - its about finding the device that "clicks" with you. Me, on another hand, i love the Seqtrak. Its super intuitive. Ep 133 i had to sell almost immediately. Other grooveboxes from akai through roland to Novation, sold as well. Yamaha is staying with me :) I wish you finding a device you would love. Cheers
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
Thanks man, exactly right. It will work for some and for some it won’t. Something just clicks with these things but as long as it works for you that’s all that matters! 👍👍
@inthefade
@inthefade 5 ай бұрын
People need to check out the Woovebox
@amconsole
@amconsole 5 ай бұрын
I’ve now spent two days with the Seqtrak and decided to keep it. Far from perfect and I only wish it was built like the Circuit Tracks, but there’s a lot of functionality that’s missing on the Circuit and the app is not as mandatory as I though at first. You can get some ideas going without it and set the tempo that sounds “about right” to You by ear. It encourages experimentation. As I get to understand it better, there are fewer happy accidents, and less guesswork. It’s not the most intuitive workflow. Compared to Circuit, the step sequencer is just not very convenient. To get to the next 16 steps (called a page), you need to press the page button for the availablr pages to light up as LED dots and then then press it again to get to the next page. I’ve yet to figure out how to access the step sequencer for synth tracks no matter what length of pattern I set, I’m unable to even liverecord more than 1 bar on the synth tracks and not able to use the step sequencer side keys to enter melody step by step, not able to set note gate or velocity. This was so easy to do on the Circuit. Also, adjusting step timing, to push notes out of qantised grid is a pain. I now have a list of things I’d like to see in firmware update v1.2. Honestly, it’s what I wished Circuit Tracks would be if they kept updating it.
@AndresWS
@AndresWS 5 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for your thorough video, a lot of my concerns were cleared. KZfaq more content like this
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
Thank you! 👍
@Th3rdFloor
@Th3rdFloor 5 ай бұрын
Great unbiased and very transparent review. Absolutely respect your honesty and opinion on your user experience. I commend you sir! 🙏 Too many out there would have most certainly taken advantage and glossed over or even bashed this unit in regards to the things that you raised and spoke about in this video! Thanks for sharing and I’m sure this video will most certainly help those who are considering purchasing the SEQTRAK get a true insight before purchasing the unit.👍
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@DylanParisMusic
@DylanParisMusic 5 ай бұрын
This is a great review and overview, thanks for making this even if it didn’t click for you!
@WyattLite-n-inn
@WyattLite-n-inn 5 ай бұрын
Dylan, I can see you on this thing tho…
@DylanParisMusic
@DylanParisMusic 5 ай бұрын
@@WyattLite-n-innit does look rad! I’m still debating getting one or not but leaning towards it!
@WyattLite-n-inn
@WyattLite-n-inn 5 ай бұрын
@@DylanParisMusic Me too. First of all, the visuals alone . An you can superimpose them over your own videos and /or photos. Secondly they’ve stated that they’re making more sound content available on the app in future updates . Plus a ducker among other cool fx . I think it’s a good investment both of time and resources because it’s only gonna evolve , perhaps into a series like the QY .. This thing would be great w a Korg SQ 64 ..
@Boumclap
@Boumclap 5 ай бұрын
Thanx for this video you exactly addressed the concerns I had on this machine! The sample part on this was a big question for me, it seams completely underused compared on what they offer with the synth and other functions, and you just answered that for me! Was really hyped on this thing but more I saw videos more I said to my self "nah wait" ! So I'm going to wait and see if they will make updates on the sampler part. Cool honest and precise video 🎉
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
Thanks, yeah time will tell. Firmware might really open this thing up! 👍
@halfblind9860
@halfblind9860 5 ай бұрын
What would you say are some red flags with the sampling? I feel like the resampling function makes. up for the limited slots. But I've never used a hardware sampler before so I wouldn't know what's possible. I'm also heavily interested in this thing but I want to make sure I don't just light money on fire as I've done so many times before lol.
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
@@halfblind9860 if you’re interested in sampling more than the other features then there are far more capable samplers out there. The SP404 MKII, the MPC range etc. Now those are more expensive new but you could pick up a used 404 for the same money. With those you can do almost unlimited things with the samples as they are built for that purpose. With this the sampling aspect feels like a little bonus to play with but it doesn’t have any slicing, or mute groups etc. Resampling can go a long way but if all you want to do is play with samples I’d buy something else for sure! 👍
@onaucc9899
@onaucc9899 5 ай бұрын
Good review, thank you. Videos about the SeqTrack were my first ever introduction to the concept of Grooveboxes. Well, i ended up ordering the Novation Circuit Rhythm, which i feel compliments my porduction in a DAW more. Haven't gotten it yet, but your review makes me feel like i made the right decision.
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
Thank you! I know a lot of people who really enjoy the Circuit. I’d like to try one 👍
@ronrobins3513
@ronrobins3513 5 ай бұрын
What I figured out about this device is the great portability factor. The Yamaha MX/MODX/Refacee all great Synths but maybe you need these in a desktop form factor. VOLA!!!! You have a generous selection of AWM sounds el/acoustic pianos, organs, clavs. Bowed strings, brass, flutes. Guitars etc etc. 4op FM so deep house organs, solid/lately bass, Balearic marimbas perc. And all this with a pretty nice app. Of which you could buy a $300 iPhone as an editor and dedicate to that one task. So use it not as a all singing all dancing groovebox BUT as a really capable SOUND MODULE 🎉😊
@suga4all
@suga4all 5 ай бұрын
Fair enough! But I guess you are right. It is not primarily a sampler but more like a groove box. So it is just geared towards a different audience.
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely for the right person this would be great! 👍
@jantuitman
@jantuitman 5 ай бұрын
Fair review I think. If you wanted to play it you’d need a device that can have the midi channel specified per pad. I also have one but I am a person that enjoys step sequencing a lot. The thing I currently dislike most is that octave is 1 button and it is on the back. But it is a fun device to use so far. Still need to get a bit deeper in.
@osrthejourney
@osrthejourney 5 ай бұрын
I plan to sequence it exactly as you stated with the hapax.
@bolobolognese
@bolobolognese 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video! A question: I just recently got the EP-133. It’s fun, but I already start to feel the limitations and things that cost me too much time compared to a DAW. I’m mainly making music with samples and like to edit my real world sounds and making them to instruments. Would you recommend getting an iPad or the sp404 (for the haptic)?:)
@matthewgaines10
@matthewgaines10 5 ай бұрын
It isn’t for me either. I figured that out before I preordered it. Yes, I still preordered it and will receive it and likely keep it for some time. While it isn’t for my music composition and production, it looks like it might be a fun thing to play around with. We shall see. MPCs and DAWs for me. Thanks for your candor.
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
Yeah absolutely. It definitely is fun and for something to just play around with you won’t be disappointed! 🙂
@shafeenmahmud8850
@shafeenmahmud8850 5 ай бұрын
We need more straight to the point folks like you bud!
@lnknmusic
@lnknmusic 3 ай бұрын
It’s funny man, because I feel pretty much the exact same way as you do. I bought this thing with high hopes, and have been disappointed with it to a certain extent, BUT, after I created my return request on Amazon and it was approved to return, I haven’t been able to do it yet. I have to acknowledge a very strange fact, and that is that even though I really don’t like sequencing tracks, it’s never been that fun for me because I just find it tedious, but my truth right now is that I have made more music with this thing in such a short amount of time than I have with any piece of gear that I’ve ever owned. I’m typically a button pusher, I like to tap out my beats, which is why I also own a Maschine MK3, an SP404mk2 and of course Koala (my KZfaq channel is literally full of screen recordings of my tracks being played live in Koala. That’s basically how I get my final version of my songs). This thing is weird, it’s unlike anything I’ve ever used and been into. But I’m making music with it that I like and that’s just so strange to me. Lol. The way I have found myself using it is, I’m making songs with it and then sampling those songs into my SP or into koala, and creating from there using my preferred techniques. I’m basically creating my own samples with it and I actually love the idea of that. It’s something to think about! I took it with me on a trip last week and it’s perfect for an airplane ride! I still have until the end of the month to decide whether or not I want to return it, and I am still on the fence. I could use that money towards exchanging my polyend play for the plus version, or putting it towards some other new piece of gear that I haven’t tried yet. But right now it’s working for me, so I just haven’t pulled the trigger yet. Anyway, thank you for your videos. Your demeanor is very calming and relatable, and sort of has the general vibe of “if we knew each other, we would probably be friends“, and that makes your videos very easy to watch and entertaining. Keep it up!
@rootnotez
@rootnotez 5 ай бұрын
Appreciate you telling it like it is. Too many content creators fluff companies releasing new products; and consumers get caught up in the hype train and get split from their funds. We need creators to call out companies that are releasing products that depend on apps. Those instruments won't be playable in 20 years...
@amconsole
@amconsole 5 ай бұрын
These are not made to last You 20 years. Even if You keep a spare iPad and not update it just to have the app, they will both die at some point. I have an older model iPad just for the apps that are on it and no longer available on App Store.
@lofi-dave
@lofi-dave 5 ай бұрын
13:37 There is the possibility to press "synth" + "sound" button and the 16 steps of the step sequencer will light up. Every step is a category: 1. Bass / 2. Synth Lead / 3. Piano / 4. Keyboard / 5. Organ and so on. Same thing applies to pressing any drum knob + sound. There are 16 categories for drum sounds. And it also applies to the Sampler where are also 16 categories of preset sampler sounds available.
@FlowR91
@FlowR91 5 ай бұрын
You even just have to select drum/synth and then hold sound down. No need to hold the synth button
@lofi-dave
@lofi-dave 5 ай бұрын
@@FlowR91 True! Thanks for that one :)
@ricardomanzo
@ricardomanzo 5 ай бұрын
So, what product is out there that can do what you want it to do (the OP 1 is $2000, so that is out of the question for me)? I use Koala as well and wanted a unit for the same reasons you were looking for.
@IamMightyMark
@IamMightyMark 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this review , it’s not too many on KZfaq right now and this was great. Looks like this device is for me
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
Glad I could help!! 👍
@NefertitiGold
@NefertitiGold 5 ай бұрын
Oh shit, what’s up homie!! lol just casually browsing comments
@idemditto
@idemditto 3 ай бұрын
I returned my SEQTRAK yesterday. I had a 60 day trial and was able to return it. I was very excited and with the hype on KZfaq this was a must have for me. I have to remember so many settings, use the software and bring a midi controller to play. The options to play on the SEQTRAK are not working for me. And what happens to the software support when Yamaha labels the SEQTRAK as outdated. I expect that there will be fewer or no updates and that the newer smart devices / software will eventually no longer be supported, while the SEQTRAK will still work fine. I don't want to become too dependent on software. I own a Roland Fantom 0 with a great sequencer, almost 6000 sounds and basically the same workflow but with many more options. I mean, the loop creation, scenes and songs are almost the same as on the SEQTRAK. Yes, portability can be an issue, but there's no fancy Yamaha bag for the SEQTRAK, plus you'll need to carry a midi controller and a device for the software to do advanced things with it. Then I might as well take the Fantom. So for me a NoGo device
@TheBroDotTV
@TheBroDotTV 3 ай бұрын
Interesting. I think the portability seems cool but it really boils down to hands on control for me and if it's no better than iPad then I'd stick with that.
@a2roland
@a2roland 4 ай бұрын
Awesome! Thank You!
@Dadhus1
@Dadhus1 5 ай бұрын
Dearest Seqtrak, you're a really lovely device and I'm sure you'll find someone soon who's every bit as special as you are. Please remember; it's not you, it's me. Keep my toothbrush. Goodbye.
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
😂😂
@marial8235
@marial8235 5 ай бұрын
I was interested in this as well, but had a similar conclusion to you. I like keys because I play all of my parts into the sequencer. The JD-XI with some improvements would be more of what I need.
@LesterH25
@LesterH25 5 ай бұрын
The JDXi JDXA were so nearly perfect. I think the SeqTrak is just happy doing its own thing. It’s a marmite device.
@slvshy666
@slvshy666 5 ай бұрын
I had the KOII for probably 2 weeks before selling it as well. I also felt that it was extremely limited especially when I have koala sampler which does everything the KOII does and more... But the one thing I noticed is that when I had the KO sitting there with a pair of headphones I was much more likely to grab it and start messing around with a beat or some samples. In that sense I think it's a useful thing to have around creatively in the same way an artist carries a sketchbook/notepad. I feel hardware is valuable for its physical presence and its ability to draw you towards it. I think the seqtrack serves a similar purpose, but I just wish they had included a small screen. They let the design take over when they could have really made it much more pragmatic to use without sacrificing it's cool minimalist style.
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
I agree totally, a lot of people ask me why I own the SP or my MPC, even the K.O II when I have Koala sampler and I always give the same answer. Koala is fantastic but there is an undeniable appeal and joy that comes from actual hardware vs a screen. It’s really hard to explain that to people sometimes but I guarantee if they buy a piece of hardware they would feel the same. The SEQ just wasn’t practical for my approach but it has its place and I’m sure it will have a lot of fans. We’re all unique and have our different preferences when it comes to working. I think we should all be thankful that we have such choice these days. I’ve also just bought a used Polyend Tracker to see how that feels. It’s completely different to anything I’ve tried before 😳🙂
@slvshy666
@slvshy666 5 ай бұрын
@@nervouscooks agreed, currently a bit of a golden age for hardware nuts 🤘 curious to see your thoughts and experience with the polyend as I've been seeing a lot about the mini and that looks super interesting as well. Good luck keep up the vids 🤙
@joelcarloaymat
@joelcarloaymat 5 ай бұрын
I dont know if its possible, but can you control the Seqtrak with your MPC? Specifically for clock sync, finger drumming and triggering the samples via midi? I do this quite a bit with Maschine and the rest of my gear, its basically the control center for everything in my studio. That would be my workaround if its possible.
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
That’s not a bad idea!! I’m going to try that tomorrow before I pack it back in the box. Thanks!! 👍
@joelcarloaymat
@joelcarloaymat 5 ай бұрын
@@nervouscooks it can be pretty useful, especially if you run a lot of hardware. I know Seqtrak is technically "supposed" to be a stand alone device but having something like and MPC to control everything makes more sense, especially if there are things it can do better than Seqtrak can do. Doesnt make Seqtrak any less desirable, its more about creative workarounds to get the most out of it in the studio.
@LesterH25
@LesterH25 5 ай бұрын
Great review and I agree with every point, but…….. Why I’m keeping mine. Midi thru my PolyBrute, midi synced with my Boss 505 Looper. What the SeqTrak added……..montage quality sounds, guitars, pianos etc……easy but creative drum machine and a no fuss sampler. The fx are pretty damn good too.
@aorakis5795
@aorakis5795 23 күн бұрын
hi there, thanks for the review ! How about the Battery life ? How long does the battery last before recharge it ? Cheers
@theleastsignificantbit4794
@theleastsignificantbit4794 5 ай бұрын
Excellent review.
@AcidAlex
@AcidAlex 5 ай бұрын
Funny to hear you talking about the two “gate” videos I posted. Honestly, the slide gate video was just meant to be a little bit of fun so I hope no-one took it too serious, although even with light button pushes you will find yourself steadying the unit with your other hand. The keyboard issue is real though. I didn’t watch your video as I was driving so had it on audio only, but if none of your keys trigger from the edge I’d say you might have even more defective keys than me. The problem with mine was that all of the other keys were really sensitive and could be pressed lightly even on the edge, except this one key that didn’t trigger unless I pushed down much harder and in the dead centre of the key. To me that made that one key feel defective and it meant I kept having notes not record into the sequencer as I was playing them. It became annoying real quick. Okay, so maybe defective is a strong word, maybe better to say they had different tolerances which was definitely an annoyance. Anyway, great video! I’d not seen your channel before so have subscribed :-)
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
Appreciate the sub! I wasn’t haven’t a go at you for it so I hope it didn’t come across that way. I’m just wary of what could be a strange new KZfaq trend. I’m sorry to hear you have actual problems with the keys. Mine definitely don’t play if I hit them at the bottom but it’s consistent across the board so I assumed it was fine. As I said unless they were more playable I wouldn’t have kept it anyway so even if there is a defect there, it’s still going back. It’s a shame it could have been really fun with better keys. I’m assuming you’ve sent yours back? 🙂
@AcidAlex
@AcidAlex 5 ай бұрын
@@nervouscooksdon’t worry, I didn’t think you were having a go or anything :-) it actually made me chuckle that I’d been mentioned in another persons video as that’s never happened before (or at least I’ve not been aware if it has). Yes, I’ve sent mine back now, just waiting for a refund. I’d ask for a replacement, except for pretty much the same things you mentioned. Issues aside, it just didn’t feel that “playable” with the 7 keys.
@ak99uk
@ak99uk 5 ай бұрын
I agree completely. Received mine on Saturday, and decided it was going back by Tuesday, for similar reasons. It is an excellent piece of kit, with great sounds, but it doesn't work for me. I wanted something to noodle with, while sitting on the sofa, but I need a midi keyboard, not an octave of plastic buttons. This is just me, I hope others get on with theirs.
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
I think it will definitely suit some people really well. It’s a shame because better pads/buttons and it could have been so much more versatile. I delivered mine back to the store today. I’m waiting to see what else pops up this year particularly after Namm. 👍
@MyNameJeff..
@MyNameJeff.. 5 ай бұрын
Sheeeit… I preordered this and I see the mpc right there… The live 2 is the piece of gear I make the most music with. Best investment for gear I ever made. I have the same workflow as you too.
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
Honestly don’t sweat it, give it a fair try and return it if it’s no good. Like I said, if my workflow was different I’d love it but sadly it wasn’t for me. I really wanted to love it as it looks awesome! As for the MPC’s they are truly the daddy when it comes to sampling workflows. Hard to beat and with stems coming very soon they are going to be even better. The truth is I should just be happy with what I have but I’ve got that sad addiction to buying gear! 😂
@MyNameJeff..
@MyNameJeff.. 5 ай бұрын
@@nervouscooks True. That’s what I’m doing. That’s what I did with the op-1 field but that thing costed more than my mpc live 2 and minifreak combined.
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
@@MyNameJeff.. yeah I think the K.O II is the only TE product I could actually afford! 😂 Let me know how you get on with the SEQ as I’m curious what other sample based folks think of it! 👍
@MyNameJeff..
@MyNameJeff.. 5 ай бұрын
@@nervouscooks I will for sure bro!
@ForecastGrim
@ForecastGrim 5 ай бұрын
The workflow of the MPC is truly unparalleled.
@amconsole
@amconsole 5 ай бұрын
Not sure what You expected out of the synth engines. There’s a ton of actually useable patches that don’t just demo the capabilities of synth by occupying the entire frequency range with massive layered rumbles and delays, and modulation on top of modulation that sound really cool, but You can’t find a place for them in You track unless they go solo. Instead the offered synth sounds are subdued, leaving space for fx, post production and mastering, and I like that. A few simple tweaks on the filter, some reverb and they are there. The DX engine is it’s own separate thing and can probably do more than a standalone Volca FM, even the stock patches on it are deliciously 80’s sounding. I could record a few of my favorite sounding Jura patches as chords and import them into the Sampler to have a 4th synth, but that just feels like too much work and would take less time to do the thing I want to do on the MPC instead.
@sawssman965
@sawssman965 5 ай бұрын
Is there anything you could compare the synth sounds to? I know what the dx sounds like, but what about the others?
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
I don’t really I’m sure someone will release a video soon demonstrating the sounds.
@lapdz1
@lapdz1 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing this video! I got mine and I'm quite enjoying the machine. However, one of the biggest limitations is not being able to play each track continuously in song mode. Every time the machine needs to pause, and it's pretty annoying if you are planning to play live.
@Early-Adopter
@Early-Adopter 4 ай бұрын
Yea I agree it doesn’t look ‘live’ friendly. Probably better off with a Circuit Rhythm for that. Best $200 I’ve probably ever spent in music hardware.
@remka2000
@remka2000 6 күн бұрын
Thanks for the honest review! Reminds me a bit of the OP-Z, which I owned very briefly. Tiny controls, not very usable without a screen (I know that some people like Cuckoo probably disagree 😅). For me it was a clear example of form over function. I don't really like the Roland approach either, at least for their grooveboxes, which is often very menu-divy... On the other hand I will never sell my OG Digitakt!
@soundminedd
@soundminedd 5 ай бұрын
Good discussion❤❤❤
@HOLODECK-MUSIC-PROJECT
@HOLODECK-MUSIC-PROJECT 5 ай бұрын
i own one, and your thoughts (except one) are correct. but for me its a everywhere geoovebox notebook, even way better tjan my OP-Z. Yamaha made 3 bad choices: 1. non velocity plastic keys, 2. advertising that crimpled sample engine and 3. put it on that very irritating cheap box. But its running with external midi controller (Akai MPD218) ALSO ican trigger the 7 sample sounds there (Midi channel 11) and that’s working for me fine. Ill keep it
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info, I must of missed something on my controller as I couldn’t trigger them but I did say it could be user error 👍
@jazzlover10000
@jazzlover10000 5 ай бұрын
Well it's a lot better than a College Engineering Pocket Operator and does more (for me anywyayzzz) than anything CE does for the price.
@artephank
@artephank 5 ай бұрын
Limited is probably the best description. In my opinion if the go against OPZ (clearly a huge inspiration for them) they should at least provide same if not more capabilities. Perhaps sequencer doesn’t need to be that advanced (but it would be nice) but the fact that ol’ dirty OPZ has more sample mangling and sound design capabilities is not understandable to me. Perhaps in future updates, however yamaha is not known for giving their devices a second life. I am afraid that there would be a lot of returns since many people don’t read manual and just assume that it is at least as capable as competition.
@WyattLite-n-inn
@WyattLite-n-inn 5 ай бұрын
Definitely pairing this up with an akai mini +…
@TheBroDotTV
@TheBroDotTV 3 ай бұрын
Good that you're honest. First for KZfaq.
@dodgingrain3695
@dodgingrain3695 5 ай бұрын
How programmable is the awm2 engine? I'm looking for a cs6x/cs6r but maybe the awm2 in this is as programmable as that engine and this is more space effective, etc? Can I do things like select the waveforms, tweak envelopes and lfo's, change filter types, etc? Or is it just preset selection with no real editing?
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
It’s not my area of expertise and I’m in bed for the evening but I will have a quick look in the morning and let you know. I only peeked at it briefly but I remember reading something about maybe being able to edit one more than the other. I’ll try and confirm tomorrow for you though. 👍
@dodgingrain3695
@dodgingrain3695 5 ай бұрын
@@nervouscooks Looks similar but there is only 1 waveform? on the seqtrak per voice instead of 4 like the CS series, so I think the cs6x engine allows for more editability. With both synth voices it looks like about half the power of a cs6x. Nothing like 20 years and moving backwards, lol. My guess is to get the 128 poly they had to only allow 2 voices instead of the 4. Also don't see anyway to control a filter with an envelope?
@lofi-dave
@lofi-dave 5 ай бұрын
I think the term "synth engine" is a bit misleading. You could consider this device like a rompler kind of thing. It comes with 2000 presets and you "post" edit the presets with FX like distortion, filter, delay, etc. There are also more options within the app like LFOs and stuff, but there is no synth sound design from scratch. It all starts with presets.
@thekeysman6760
@thekeysman6760 5 ай бұрын
​@@dodgingrain3695The CS6X is also AWM2, not just GM. AWM2 is over 30 years old now anyway! And it's LFOs plural, no apostrophe saying "LFO is" as you have. Oscillators doesn't have an apostrophe.
@thekeysman6760
@thekeysman6760 5 ай бұрын
​@@lofi-daveBy definition it's not a rompler. It is an AWM2 synth.
@valley_robot
@valley_robot 5 ай бұрын
I couldn't make music on anything other than the modern MPC, it has everything I want and it's easy to use and create music instantly, I tried the MC101 and I was very dissatisfied with it, I lost money selling it on after a few weeks, I'll wait for the rumours MPC mini
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
Yeah you can’t beat the MPC’s. I love mine and it is very capable. I keep hearing MPC mini but I haven’t seen anything solid about this. It sounds awesome so I hope they make one! 👍
@thekeysman6760
@thekeysman6760 5 ай бұрын
MPCs* all the way. 😉
@artephank
@artephank 5 ай бұрын
Electron boxes are cool too. Not to mention OPZ which is wonderful idea machine (not that great for creating full songs though)
@Iggxzy
@Iggxzy 5 ай бұрын
I received mine, and am kind of skeptical after trying it out for a bit.
@UrbanGarden-rf5op
@UrbanGarden-rf5op Ай бұрын
Re: External MIDI keyboard. The problem seems to be that each drum is on it’s own separate MIDI channel. I really don’t get Yamaha’s logic on this one. Except maybe for some dubious internal routing choices. They were MIDI pioneers and now they do this! I have an advanced MIDI (cable) patch bay/processor, the MIDITEMP MT16X, that can split the input signal to the channels of your choice. I’m sure there are newer (and cheaper) alternatives. @ 10:08 In fact this is the first slide keyboard😉 Haven’t they heard of attachable rubber feet? I’m sitting by the mail-box, waiting for mine to arrive😎 Thanks for keeping it real, that’s a rare commodity. And you did really teach me a lot. 𝄆👍👏👍👏𝄇
@beautifulidiot4323
@beautifulidiot4323 5 ай бұрын
is this already available in the UK? doesn't seem to be in the US yet.
@bdxfhsf
@bdxfhsf 5 ай бұрын
Yes, Music Matter
@jazzlover10000
@jazzlover10000 5 ай бұрын
Well it was either this or the "Do Expensive Eggs actually taste better?" video so I chose this one. No am just kidding I bought one of these am waiting for it to arrive next month. Honestly what appeals to me is that I can take it when traveling and play with it without worrying about losing a $1500 device. If I lose it (I hope) I can just order another and start up where I left off. For $400USD it's kinda easy that way. Will have to check out the MIDI control function problems you mentioned I don't think that's a dealbreaker for me but hopefully they have it straightened out in updates, as you said. Was thinking it would be kinda hilarious to use it in concert with an old Casio VL-Tone!! Probably not the first. But I like joking around a lot ok so am pretty sure this is for me at least to learn enuf so that I know how to play with it while I'm traveling. Does it have a headphone jack? Haven't heard anyone say but imagine it _must_ be there. If it has a headphone jack does it support nice headphones like Sennheiser HD650? A lot of devices don't support modern headphones properly so was just curious about that. If not, I can use my old YAMAHA HP-3 phones they work well with everything and sound pretty modern even tho' they're so old!! Was just curious what you tho't about using the SEQTRAK with headphones. Nice review thank you very much!
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
Thanks, it has a main output 3.5 jack but only one so you can send audio to headphones or speakers. I’m not 100% sure but you may be able to send audio out from the USB C port so at least you could send to speakers and use the headphone out at the same time. My Beyerdynamics worked well with the 3.5 jack. 👍
@thijsschadevanwestrum1697
@thijsschadevanwestrum1697 5 ай бұрын
for finger drummer could you utilize the Bluetooth MIDI of the Seqtrak and have a drumpad app on your phone triggering the various MIDI channels. I don't have the Seqtrak, so noe way to try it, but maybe a solution?
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
I think it does work from the phone app, I’m trying a few more tests this morning out of curiosity. 🙂
@unkleskunky
@unkleskunky 5 ай бұрын
If I am recollecting correctly you could input your drums on the phone or tablet screen.
@danmarkham2929
@danmarkham2929 5 ай бұрын
I just got one for £299 from PMT in the UK. Just getting in to it at the moment.
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
That’s a good deal, was it B-Stock or a sale? 👍
@vinylselektaz6475
@vinylselektaz6475 4 ай бұрын
Yeah i agree. I returned mines 2 mins into it.
@lorenzopino5027
@lorenzopino5027 5 ай бұрын
By the way, I couldn't find an easy way to do finger drumming on the device itself, but in the app, there's a 'perform' tab where you can use a virtual on-screen drum pad. It even has decent latency, even with a Bluetooth connection.
@jazzlover10000
@jazzlover10000 5 ай бұрын
It's for small asian fingers... wish Yamaha would make a version for westerners! (bigger hands)
@atstrollz6875
@atstrollz6875 5 ай бұрын
The workflow of the SEQtrak is designed around the sequencer? Who would have thought 😅
@BsYtHandle
@BsYtHandle 5 ай бұрын
I admire your wish to swim against the never-ending tidal wave of click bait. To do so you say that you will get straight to the reason why you're not a fan, which is because it doesn't fit in your workflow. Then you say that a few more times and kind of circle around that point as well. If you wish to be succinct then state your point WELL and move on. I found it frustrating that you stated it, then stated it again and then stated it again. That said, I have Liked and subbed because I can see you meant what you said. Anyway, I have found that my LPD8, iPad and Ableton Note are in the same ballpark, so I'm not getting one either.
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
Duly noted and I appreciate the sub!
@fcf8269
@fcf8269 5 ай бұрын
I think the problem is that you got this without even knowing what it does. If you would spend a bit of time watching the videos they have on their channel, you would see all the pros and cons and limitations right there. I think this device is not made for everyone, which is great, because if every company makes the same devices, we can just give up on any innovation. Instead there are groovebox made for different types of music and musicians (OP-1, Seqtrak, MC-101 and so on); and that is a blessing I think. The fact it didn't work with you is just a matter of your needs not being matched by the device; I got the same issue with many synths and music hardware (for example I can't stand the MPC workflow, as I play keyboard more than use the pads, and the way to make music on the MPC is not my favorite), but these are awesome and well made, and it is just a matter of not matching with me.
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
I think the problem is that you clearly didn’t watch the video or certainly not all of it. You basically have just said exactly what I said in the video. I never once said anything negative about this device and said many times that I’m the wrong user for the device. I think it’s fantastic little thing and that it’s not designed for me or the style of work I produce. I watched a lot of videos beforehand hence me clearing up a lot of concerns other users have about build quality etc and had a good idea of what it is capable of. I just had no idea what the buttons would feel like to play without trying it. You can’t get a feel for it without using it. I’m not sure from this video why you are assuming I think all devices should be made the same or that I think everything should be like the MPC? Watch more than two seconds of the video or just reading the title and I think you’ll realise that we actually agree here! 🙂
@fcf8269
@fcf8269 5 ай бұрын
@@nervouscooks I never said that you spoke ill of the device; I think you didn't understand at all what I wrote, and are just following your train of thoughts :) The point of the post was to agree on your statement; the only "remark" I made, if you can call it that way, was that you bought the device first, and then figured out that it was not doing what you prefer, when you could see that clearly from the demo videos that Yamaha made the same day the device was announced. Not sure how you got one as they are unavailable until mid feb for most people (unless you work in the promo industry the street date for delivery is Feb); but consider also that the firmware is just in its infancy, and I would not be surprised to see updates soon that address some issues (like the lack of keyboard mode for the samples; which is really a cons for me too). As you mentioned that you like large pads and you finger drum on your devices, and you have a MPC one there, it was only natural to mention MPC, as it is clearly something you use. Cause and effect; it is a logic progression that leave very little to imagination, and that's why I mention the MPC as something that I do not enjoy... Because it is something you can relate to and see where I came from, independently if you like MPCs or not :) And yes, I watched the video; 3/4 of it to be honest, as I think that your initial points were very clear and I agree with the criticism you made about the device, so I felt that your message was loud and clear already at that point.
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
@@fcf8269 I think crossed wires here, but just to be clear… They are readily available in the UK from most music retailers. I understand they haven’t been released yet in other countries but I bought mine (and have now returned it) from PMT with my own money. I have nothing to do with promoting them or Yamaha. 🙂
@fcf8269
@fcf8269 5 ай бұрын
@@nervouscooks I see, so in UK they are already available. Again I was not implying you were promoting them :) I just saw those in the hands of people doing reviews (usual youtube channels for most part), and since NAMM is going on in LA right now, there is also a chance to see the device first hand if you are there
5 ай бұрын
Got mine ... and returned it back the day after. Very plastic. I didn't like the feeling of the keys, ... Waiting the mkII-metal-built version with real keys ;)
@SonicVibe
@SonicVibe 5 ай бұрын
great info i canceled the pre order not for me i think ty
@davidlynch4338
@davidlynch4338 5 ай бұрын
Is there an IOS app that you could use as a usb/midi drum pad? I mean, using your phone as a drum pad.
@nicolastewart2195
@nicolastewart2195 5 ай бұрын
There’s a drum pad in the seqtrack app, there’s also a piano roll I think
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
It looks that way but then I feel like I may as well just use an app and I have plenty of synth apps. I really like the tactile feel of good pads/buttons so I was disappointed with the performance of these.
@davidlynch4338
@davidlynch4338 5 ай бұрын
@@nervouscooksI'm with you there... The Seqtrack looks pretty cool in the same way as the Teenage Engineerings stuff, but none of it is good for how I work. I play mostly Indian Classical music, primarily on Sitar and Esraj, so I need some deep sequencing for Tabla sounds (odd time signatures and complex, non repetitive patterns). I have been having great luck using an Artesia Pro Xjam with the Synthstrom Deluge. Those 2 and sometimes a small midi Keyboard check all the boxes for me and have basically replaced Ableton Live for live playing.
@jazzlover10000
@jazzlover10000 5 ай бұрын
@@nicolastewart2195 Oh that is cool! I had wondered that too.
@jazzlover10000
@jazzlover10000 5 ай бұрын
@@davidlynch4338 Heh I play chapman stick - another instrument with a long decay rate that's not necessarily good for sequencers. But anyway will see how I can work it. Sometimes the limitations move you into new creative modes so it can be good.
@dmks2146
@dmks2146 5 ай бұрын
I'd say this is all about the sequencer and parameter locks. Like a budget Elektron.
@jazzlover10000
@jazzlover10000 5 ай бұрын
Just noted that the Seqtrak app doesn't come up on my Android Pixel 1 but does load onto my Android Pixel 6a. I happen to have the PIxel 6a around as a fallback- generally use the PIxel 1. Will have to remember that when I take the Seqtrak traveling with me!
@allanwan7503
@allanwan7503 5 ай бұрын
Shall I get this one or EP133?
@user82938
@user82938 5 ай бұрын
Why not just plug the MIDI from your MPC into the Seqtrak and use that to play?
@user82938
@user82938 5 ай бұрын
Sorry, just got to the part where you talk about it.
@kirkwilliams4942
@kirkwilliams4942 4 ай бұрын
You need to add the Yamaha drum pad. The SeqTrak is freaking amazing.
@tzodearf2596
@tzodearf2596 5 ай бұрын
Yamaha sounds are pretty dry out of the box. But are nice with fx... Is it fairly priced?
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
I think with all the features it is fairly priced. If it suited my needs I’d definitely keep it. 🙂
@damelos4039
@damelos4039 5 ай бұрын
Great video even if not for you. Each of these devices has some major issue so none are perfect. I'm holding on to my KO II to see what the next few firmware updates bring. My SEQTRAK is on order.
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
Nice! Yeah that’s my whole point really for this video, it just has to work for you. I know people who hate the MPC or the SP and I love them, it’s just preference. I really do think this is a great device, just not for my style of working. I’ll still be keeping an eye on it for firmware just out of curiosity and I think the KO II could be improved tenfold even with the ability to resample. I like to be honest about what I think but also see the bigger picture and be positive even if it’s not for me. 👍
@rodequis6014
@rodequis6014 5 ай бұрын
06:30 that's one thing i don't like of seqtrack, why the drum tracks have fixed different midi channel numbers, it should be user definable i mean what's wrong on playing a whole drumkit on ONE midi channel. That's why you can't play the drum sounds with your external midi controller, you need to send midi notes on different midi channels. Horrible behavior, i like this device but that flaw 🤦‍♂️ is a not go for me. I hope yamaha change that on a next firmware. Nice video!! 🤘. PS. MidiOX can help in playing those drums on different midi channels.
@digitaldiezel5870
@digitaldiezel5870 5 ай бұрын
The only part that sounded like a blocker for me was needing an app to load sounds. Is there no usb or SD slot that we can pull sounds from? I’ll go look into that. I don’t want to be thinking about space issues on my phone even if they fix it the way you mentioned. Fingers crossed on what I find out, I was really hopeful about this being my traveling device.
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
No SD slots but it does have 500mb of internal user storage which isn’t huge but adequate particularly when compared to the tiny 64mb offered by the TE K.O II 🙂
@psychrockvinyl
@psychrockvinyl 5 ай бұрын
Dig the video man! Try plugging a MIDI keyboard into it maybe to play more finger drummy
@fancyspectacles
@fancyspectacles 5 ай бұрын
No bpm readout on a sequencer?! That’s odd. This was a great review tho. Thank you
@RSKNPOL
@RSKNPOL 5 ай бұрын
Build quality may be subjective but my piece is additionally bent 😅😅😅 ive sold KO II but this is something what i like . I don’t want to return it .
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
Oh no.. I haven’t seen a bent one yet. 😳 Well hopefully if you did decide to get a replacement they would send it quickly as I don’t think there are any stock issues currently. 🙂
@RSKNPOL
@RSKNPOL 5 ай бұрын
@@nervouscooks well , someone mentioned it at Elektronauts and I checked mine and its also not aligned properly. Bottom plate is flat but top plate, where synth and drum keys coming together is little bit off . Not a big deal but… at least give me flat one 😅😅😅
@TrifleGrills
@TrifleGrills 5 ай бұрын
Hi I too am thinking of sending my SeqTrak back as well (only had it for a week) but I will agree as well, that it is an excellent little DAW. The only problem I have is with its app. I emailed Yamaha to find out about it but apparently there is no app for MOST Android users, only certain Android phones have the capability to work with Core MIDI & Core Audio. So for me the SeqTrak app isn't compatible with my phone or compatible with my chromebook, plus if they were available, Bluetooth isn't available for connecting for Android users. The desktop works fine but for my, I was sold on the fact that it could connect to my phone. It's a shame because its a super portable DAW with the capability of making some meaty sound, It's a bit of a let down for android users. Plus if Yamaha was to make some big updates, then how would that work with lights? There's no way of adding more light up word, a little two line display would of worked so much better especially as half their users can't use the app on the go.
@Geekraver
@Geekraver 5 ай бұрын
Not quite as portable but given it can act as a MIDI host it seems like combining this with a LaunchPad Mini might be killer.
@pascaljean2333
@pascaljean2333 Ай бұрын
To get "blown away" from the synths you need to dive into the app to mess with the synth paths and LFO
@cloneroom
@cloneroom 5 ай бұрын
That was quick. Was very interested to see what it was all about. In regards to my OK ii, I am in the same boat as many. Awesome little machine but ultimately hamstrung from being a must. Already having the SP I def will be offloading mine…now where the hell did that fader cap go …….crap
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
Thank you, yeah short but sweet. I really wanted to love it but I’m sure there will be another toy along soon to get us all spending. I think the K.O and this are both excellent if it works for you and I think sequencing and hooking up external midi etc are just more suited to these types of devices. My advice is sell your K.O now if you’re going to before the new stock comes in. I didn’t make any money on mine, that wasn’t my goal but I also didn’t lose any! Get looking for that cap asap!! 👍
@DashBlue
@DashBlue 5 ай бұрын
Your tattoos look badass
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
Thank you! 👍
@arcticfoxstudios2018
@arcticfoxstudios2018 5 ай бұрын
Nice review. There is no perfect sampler…
@andymm7658
@andymm7658 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for this little review. With my SEQTRAK I noticed a different sensitivity of the drum buttons. I have to press the keys in the drum department a little harder than the sequence keys. Not dramatic, but there is a difference. However, I also find the Keygate video you mentioned exaggerated.
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
You’re welcome! 👍 … Oh that’s interesting about your buttons. There may be some genuine issues but like you said it’s easy to exaggerate and I think it is a great device and it would be a shame if a couple videos spoil that for other users as it might just be the perfect piece of gear for them. 🙂
@crolodon8024
@crolodon8024 5 ай бұрын
How many days have you had it?
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
2 days so far which I understand isn’t long but I know what I want it to do and if it doesn’t then all the other great features don’t really count. 🙂
@MyNameJeff..
@MyNameJeff.. 5 ай бұрын
One more comment - are the synth engines comparable to let’s say, jura or opx-4?
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
To be honest I couldn’t say as I don’t own either. I think I chose the air flavour pro as my free plugin on the MPC so I haven’t tried it.
@MyNameJeff..
@MyNameJeff.. 5 ай бұрын
@@nervouscooks Oh man. Coming from NI, when I first got my Live 2 I was underwhelmed by the synths. But akai has been killing it these past few years. Jura is so good, Fabric as well. Now they put out stems… Straight killing it.
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
@@MyNameJeff.. I will have to look further into that, I did just save £350 after all, maybe I can splash out on a synth for the MPC! 👍
@MyNameJeff..
@MyNameJeff.. 5 ай бұрын
@@nervouscooks They give you a free trial for 10 days man, try them out!
@MyNameJeff..
@MyNameJeff.. 5 ай бұрын
@@nervouscooksJura is so damn good bro
@Mc13adGe12
@Mc13adGe12 5 ай бұрын
For Fingerdrumming: Hold a Drumtrack ans press oke of the „Synth/Scalebuttons ;) 12:12 in the TutorialVid: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oq2KhbyGx9fVp2g.htmlfeature=shared
@andreasf6671
@andreasf6671 5 ай бұрын
How's the build quality? Supposedly, it's terrible.
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
I didn’t find that and I’ve addressed some of the concerns towards the end of the video. Mine was well built, didn’t feel too flimsy. It’s not high end but certainly acceptable. Despite not getting on with the buttons, it wasn’t a build quality issue. 👍
@valley_robot
@valley_robot 5 ай бұрын
I'll wait for the MPC mini
@michaelh8854
@michaelh8854 5 ай бұрын
Why would you expect anything without big pads to be good for finger drumming? Straw man argument here.
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
I just sold the K.O II and as I mentioned it has mechanical pads that are very playable. I assumed you could shift things over on to the other side to give you a bit more room or trigger the drum kit via a midi controller. I think it’s a valid point but also I mention numerous times in the video that it’s on me for buying a sequencer for a different job. I also don’t criticise the device and actually think it’s very good for the right user.
@axs203
@axs203 4 ай бұрын
I cant understand in this day an age why memory prices are cheap why it had has six patterns per track? That is nothing. I would run out in no time
@devids51
@devids51 5 ай бұрын
Your voice sounds aliased and time stretched, down sampled to 12 bit
@thekeysman6760
@thekeysman6760 5 ай бұрын
😂 Awww! Poor NervousCook$!
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
@@thekeysman6760 😂😂
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
Probably, I feel like I have been down sampled in general 🤮
@thekeysman6760
@thekeysman6760 5 ай бұрын
@@nervouscooks Awww man. Horrible. Eat, rest, and be well. X
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
Thanks man 👍
@MrOuija-rr8kq
@MrOuija-rr8kq 5 ай бұрын
I wish the synth engine was more in depth even if it was at the cost of menu diving.
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
I’ve heard others say it’s not as in depth as they would like. In the time I’ve had it, I haven’t really looked that much at the editing options but I’m going to have a quick look tomorrow as someone else was also interested in this. 🙂
@klstay
@klstay 5 ай бұрын
It is for this with the misapprehension $400 for such a device gets you buttons and knobs with any kind of long term reliability. Designed and built to last warranty plus a few weeks.
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
I think at the price point you should definitely expect reliability but then look at the issues with the K.O II obviously none of that is a given these days which is sad. It’s one thing I will say for the SP404 MKII, it is built like a tank!! I know it was more expensive but not by much. I think the more amazing thing is that with KZfaq and constant customer feedback we have yet to see one “perfect device”. Presumably because it keeps us buying! 😂
@jazzlover10000
@jazzlover10000 5 ай бұрын
I remember as a kid I ordered my Casio VL-Tone and got it, thinking I was going to wear it out. It and I banged it all over creation on trips to Canada etc and somehow it never died. Was maybe $60 back then now would be $240 now! Will just have to see. There's always one switch that gets dirt in it! 🙂
@antikytheramechanism7909
@antikytheramechanism7909 5 ай бұрын
The huge Yamaha tag on it is ridiculous and a huge design error. I wonder what else . . .
@jazzlover10000
@jazzlover10000 5 ай бұрын
Kinda like a Casio VL-Tone tribute I think it had the cloth tag like that! Too funny.
@CmdSoda
@CmdSoda 5 ай бұрын
The buile quality is unfortunately the weak point of this device
@krustythechris9057
@krustythechris9057 5 ай бұрын
You need an RS7000...
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
I’m unfamiliar with it but as I’m sick in bed, I will happily spend some time googling it! 👍
@edumaker5314
@edumaker5314 5 ай бұрын
Why didn't Yamaha just put in an LED screen? Shame
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
You’re right, assuming cost and limited real estate, hence the multiple side buttons as there wasn’t anywhere else to put them! 😂
@LesterH25
@LesterH25 5 ай бұрын
I initially thought the same but the iPhone app works seamlessly and becomes one of the synths strengths.
@izraelservantofalmightygod
@izraelservantofalmightygod 5 ай бұрын
Because you already have a screen on your mobile device...
@willybobo8846
@willybobo8846 5 ай бұрын
should have put a screen instead of a useless little speaker...
@trendtrader4010
@trendtrader4010 5 ай бұрын
at 500$ and the limitations of it, its NOT for anyone
@nervouscooks
@nervouscooks 5 ай бұрын
I think it’s $400 but I can see your point. I think it was advertised initially as that price but here in the Uk it sells for £350 and I’m sure I read $400 for the US.
@amconsole
@amconsole 5 ай бұрын
399
@jazzlover10000
@jazzlover10000 5 ай бұрын
Intro price is $399-- there are no guarantees. fabrication+distribution are challenging right now @@amconsole
@ARCSYS4049
@ARCSYS4049 5 ай бұрын
Too much fluff. Get to the point.
@danhill9534
@danhill9534 5 ай бұрын
Same. Worst quality item.
@AdamVHS
@AdamVHS 5 ай бұрын
BoBeat, loopop, Andrew Huang, the insufferable obnoxious red means recording, this is how you do a review. Take note and do better.
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