Hi Everyone, We are now selling the rubbers on are ZoomBikes store. www.zoombikes.co.uk/products/mt09-tracer-clutch-chatter-upgraded-rubberset
@derekcable Жыл бұрын
Great to see an old school mechanic fixing things the old school way 👍 Mel your video was a pleasure to watch 😊
@kengregg76452 жыл бұрын
Just had this mod done, fixed the vibrations, noisy rattle and 4-5000rpm noise. Thanks for the video, easy to do.
@melsmotors2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad my video helped and well done. Thanks for watching and commenting 😊👍
@motodiablo9 ай бұрын
Started getting the clutch basket noise after 22k miles. Will be following your steps when I get around to the repair. Great fix and quality work! Thank you! 🎉
@carlsimons16885 ай бұрын
I just did this job today. I opted to use M7x1 countersunk hex screws. (Difficult to obtain however) This makes it so you don't have to open up the holes in the clutch basket for tapping as the existing 6mm hole is already the correct size. Also I found the backing plate steel was not as hard as expected & managed to drill out easily with a 90 degree countersink bit so the fastener heads clear the oil pump chain. Thanks for the video. Very helpful
@melsmotors5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback 👍🙂
@mltcp4 ай бұрын
Hi, where did you manage to find the m7x1 hex screws? And does that mean you only have to tap the existing 6 mm hole, so no helix-coil required? Thanks!
@carlsimons16884 ай бұрын
Yes I found the countersunk M7 x 1 screws on Ebay & used a Hinson CU216 rubber bush kit. The screws came from China, but were good quality. The length required is 20mm as countersink fasteners are measured from head face. The original rivet hole is 6mm, so is perfect tapping size for M7. Some people use M8 screws, but this I feel removes to much material from clutch basket upstands. Plenty of Loctite so they don't come out. Nice & quite now. Also chain tension is critical on these bikes & needs to be loser than the factory spec or make noise also. I run a Scottoiler as well. Cheers & good luck
@melsmotors4 ай бұрын
@@carlsimons1688 thanks for sharing, this is such a common problem that all the info helps everyone 👍😊
@mltcp4 ай бұрын
@@carlsimons1688 Thank you for the info! Much appreciated, will try to fix the bushings soon :) One more question, were you able to tap the old rivets out by a hammer after you have drilled the rivet heads out? Or should the be drilled out from both sides?
@GrumpyGoat2 жыл бұрын
Love it ... great solution and great video. I like when parts that can be repaired are repaired instead of simply being replaced, and as you said, saves something else going into the landfill. 👍
@melsmotors2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, a mechanics job is to repair and not just through away 👍
@brunofrancesconi1992 Жыл бұрын
@@melsmotors where can I buy the silent blocks of the mt 09 clutch?
@danyk525 Жыл бұрын
La mia fa un rumore a 3200 giri se punto la frizione sparisce non lo sopporto
@GrumpyGoat Жыл бұрын
@@danyk525 Yes, the rattle is irritating especially when at a stop light and you can really hear it.
@fudenciojp96765 ай бұрын
@@brunofrancesconi1992 Hinson Racing Clutch Basket Cushion Kit (CU216)
@stephenharriau1406 Жыл бұрын
Nice work. Now I know what I’m in for. No problem. Except I’m 62 years old and no longer have a well equipped shop, and will have to be one with the floor. LoL
@antonio6739011 ай бұрын
Merci pour cette vidéo très intéressante ( il y a juste une petite erreur sur le montage du dernier disque, il doit être décallé par rapport aux autres ). Thank you for this very interesting video (there is just a small error in the assembly of the last disc, it must be offset from the others).
@garyholmes1406 Жыл бұрын
Cheers for the vid. Just did my clutch what a difference. Mine was terrible been getting worse like a grinding feeling. To those doing the same to get rivits out sand flat then use blow torch then knock out the rivits. Anyway thanks
@melsmotors Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your feedback 🙂👍
@skinnydipper3493 Жыл бұрын
excellent video.. I have a sneaking suspicion my mt09 has this very problem. Just purchased mine with 30,000 klms on it with noisy clutch basket but noise stops when I pull on the clutch lever. cheers.
@danielmartinchamorro3 ай бұрын
This is great! I need this but I live in Spain. I would travel to UK to get your repair guys..
@Edward-ur5lg2 ай бұрын
Amazing work brother.....I have a 86 radain with the same clunck at idel... give it a bit of throttle and it's gone .. amazing Yamaha still. Has clutch basket issues has same play but instead it's a pin that is too small from factory easy fix tho just replace worn pin but it's actually better to get a slightly bigger pin and slightly drill out and tap it in can tell right away it's better because old pin jiggles around
@jenx39010 ай бұрын
Great video just did mine and it worked wonders!
@paulharris59502 жыл бұрын
Mel, awesome video well explained and within most diy reach too. Thoughts about the rubber bushes, if they are so shit and it’s common what about polyurethane replacements and or making up kits that have had the helicoils done and the retaining plate counter sunk with the bolts and the loctite?
@paulharris5950 Жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly
@kronos8 Жыл бұрын
Me gusta ver a profesionales como tú saber trabajar bien. Gracias por tu video
@melsmotors Жыл бұрын
Gracias por mirar y por sus comentarios.
@romanosstroggilis99706 күн бұрын
Last friction plate should align with the dot in the clutch basket...
@melsmotors5 күн бұрын
Someone else noticed that a week after the video went live and it was rectified, thanks for watching and noticing 👍☺
@MrBeracah3 ай бұрын
Hi Mel great job and thanks for sharing. My friends bike needs done and I would appreciate it if you tell me the length of helicoil insert and countersunk screw please. Many thanks
@ArturMoisiiadi2 жыл бұрын
Could you please add link or something where i can get those bushings. Thanks a lot.
@memeacademy22956 ай бұрын
Perfect job !
@user-legko_872 ай бұрын
Отлично 👍 Дело мастера боится.
@johna.6447 Жыл бұрын
Excellent solution and very well done.
@xin591782 жыл бұрын
thx tuto !!! best regards in France !!!!!the rubber yzf450 is compatible
@sergeyryabchikov11682 жыл бұрын
One guy used these rubbers Hinson 151-0089 and said that it fits
@meoffjack2 жыл бұрын
Before and after sound example would have been nice but great video nonetheless!
@melsmotors2 жыл бұрын
I did video it but it was hard to make out over the engine sound in the video.
@Stevo10Mr11 ай бұрын
I think when the enigine is running in neutral. Then you grap the clutch in then the clutch noise is gone. I have that also with my mt09. Great vid 👌
@raresbirzu243611 ай бұрын
@@Stevo10MrI have the same on my tracer 900. When the bike is in neutral it’s louder than when I hold the clutch in. Have had the same on a F700GS. I thought that’s something normal
@Stevo10Mr11 ай бұрын
@@raresbirzu2436 thx for your answer
@TheR4R2 ай бұрын
Hi, great tutorial, man! The problem only happens on the older versions or affects all models?
@melsmotors2 ай бұрын
It happens to most of them including some of the R1's
@TheR4R2 ай бұрын
@@melsmotors, a friend of mine with a similar one like mine, 2016 model, had the problem and installed a 2019 slipper clutch and problem is gone. Maybe he didn't ride the enough miles to get the problem back. I was thinking of doing the same but this repair you showed it's going to be way cheaper. Thanks again for your work, man. Best regards from Portugal.
@skinnydipper3493 Жыл бұрын
so with this repair you fitted new rubbers to the clutch basket. Where did you buy the new rubbers from.?
@jon-richard960 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video 👍🏼 I need this doing to mine I’m in Birmingham where do I source the rubber bushes from are they the same as the yz 450fx bushes
@melsmotors Жыл бұрын
Hi Jon, We have the rubbers made as we do so many and keep them in stock, I couldn't comment on other bushes, try them yourself and let others know. It's an expensive try if it doesn't fit! Thanks for watching.
@user-kh7bv2qi5y2 жыл бұрын
ありがとうございます。
@TheBingo1951 Жыл бұрын
BEL LAVORO GRAZIE !!!!👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@Armo-MT102 жыл бұрын
What engine is it? Is it the cp3 ? I’ve got a 2021 mt09 with only 2000 miles and it’s been rattling from 200 miles. Now all the gears are clunky. Main dealership aren’t bothered much so I’m having to do my own research and fix! It’s doing my head in!
@bahiabarros7 ай бұрын
Parabéns pelo trabalho...
@andrisroze71833 ай бұрын
Hi can you tel me Yamaha fz6 clutch basket ring should be pressed on to basket or it loose I have noisy clutch and it dragging as well alll plates looks good and in limits
@kronos83 ай бұрын
What happens if this repair is not done? Does the engine break? The clutch? Or only noise and vibrations?
@melsmotors3 ай бұрын
I couldn't say, I've never seen one actually break anything! 😕
@xin591782 жыл бұрын
Hello, first of all, thank you for this tutorial. My motorcycle suffers from vibration at 3000/4000 rpm. And the symptomatic clicking noise of the clutch once it is released.... were the symptoms identical for your client? thanks in advance
@melsmotors2 жыл бұрын
The vibrations was definitely a symptom and rattling clutch basket. Thanks for watching 👍😊
@xin591782 жыл бұрын
@@melsmotors thx you !!! best regards in France !
@timward5562 жыл бұрын
What torque setting did you do on the basket
@rechfurlan2 жыл бұрын
Hi buddy, would you like that you were here in south of Brazil. Them I would leave my Tracer with you
@eugen9976Ай бұрын
hola! me podrías decir el nr. de la pieza
@danthomas86Ай бұрын
How much does this cost??
@user-yr6qu3gw1r11 ай бұрын
È un ottimo lavoro ma dove trovare i gommini ( parastrappi) e dove trovarli? Grazie del video
@RicardoTheCraneOperator3 ай бұрын
Great work! Do you do this as a job were are you located? My tracer is doing some clutch noises to, need to find a good mechanic to do the work on it in London
@melsmotors3 ай бұрын
Yes we do this as a job, we get people from all over the country coming down for this repair or buying the rubbers from us and having a go themselves. 👍
@RicardoTheCraneOperator3 ай бұрын
@melsmotors I'm located in London is it any close to you? Just saw the website! Will probably contact back next week as attending the Hastings Day Run on monday and will he ok to do the job after that depending on proce and waithing times and that?
@RicardoTheCraneOperator3 ай бұрын
Hi, Just checking availability to drop off my 2015 Tracer 900 abs for the clutch fix and maybe new clutch plates as it all needs to come off I guess? With Thanks Ricardo
@melsmotors3 ай бұрын
@@RicardoTheCraneOperator hi Ricardo, kindly ring the workshop to get availability please. Thanks
@ayoubbelkaifa1128 Жыл бұрын
thank you so mutch
@kicajner2 ай бұрын
When putting back the clutch metal plates and friction plates is there a special order ? Are they different thickness?
@melsmotors2 ай бұрын
You always try and put them back in order, they can vary in size and thickness, plus the plates are mated together when bedded in!
@skyscout112234 ай бұрын
What is the noise, do you mind sharing the noise before your fix? I do feel a little noisy in neutral but wasn't sure whether it's normal or not.
@melsmotors4 ай бұрын
I couldn't capture the noise on video very well, sorry!
@NoNoSPEАй бұрын
Good music
@melsmotorsАй бұрын
@@NoNoSPE thanks, it's free music from KZfaq ☺️
@pupi7 Жыл бұрын
Heló! Sajnos azt kell mondjam,hogy nem jól lett összerakva az utolsó kopó lamella,mert a legutolsót 1 közzel jobbra vagy balra kell tenni a manual szerint,mint ahogy volt is,làtszik is a videódban mikor szedted szét! Nem mind egy sorba kerül! Üdv
@melsmotors Жыл бұрын
Da, znam, ispravljeno je nakon odjela kada je netko drugi to spomenuo. Hvala na komentaru i hvala na gledanju
@stoffle123 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Any updates on whether the fix is permanent? What would be the risk if left unattended?
@melsmotors Жыл бұрын
Hi, the fix is permanent, the bike has been going for almost 2 years now without an issue
@jefrirockperez1492 Жыл бұрын
amigo donde uno puede conseguir esos cauchos, puede dejar un link donde los pueda comprar??
@mikeleiza72832 жыл бұрын
Hola. Muy buen video. Me gustaria saber donde puedo comprar las gomas. Un saludo
@melsmotors2 жыл бұрын
Hola, tenemos las piezas de goma hechas, normalmente las vendemos en eBay pero no tenemos stock. Gracias por ver
@Zhan_mt092 жыл бұрын
Отличная работа...
@paulharris5950 Жыл бұрын
Superb result!
@melsmotors Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting
@johannesmaas40802 ай бұрын
how long will this last till the clutch starts rattling again?
@melsmotors2 ай бұрын
I haven't had one come back yet!
@firestorm7552 жыл бұрын
Ingenious solution
@JohnSmith-uo5hy Жыл бұрын
Thanks for video. The rivets made of steel or aluminum? Maybe I will try to install the new rivets. I'm not sure about the screws.
@melsmotors Жыл бұрын
The rivets are steel, they were probably hot riveted, personally I would stick with the bolts. If it works your way please let everyone know. Thanks for watching 🙂👍
@tomerpur23 Жыл бұрын
hi mel, i want to buy the all kit to fix my tracer 900 2017....
@melsmotors Жыл бұрын
we sell the rubbers, you have to buy the rest
@julianmustofa44238 ай бұрын
Did you having hard shifting when your clutch was noisy? I have clutch noisy when disengage. And also hard shifting in certain rpm. Thanks
@melsmotors8 ай бұрын
There were no complaints about hard gear shifting! 🙂👍
@oscaredreira8918 Жыл бұрын
Hola me podrías decir el tamaño y dimensiones de los tornillos...gracias
@yamahadallas Жыл бұрын
Did you drill the rivet holes out with the drill bit that comes with the helicoil kit or did you just use the tap? It doesn’t look like you drilled the rivet holes from the video. I’m asking because I’m up to the point that I’m ready to install the helicoils.
@melsmotors Жыл бұрын
I only drilled the head of the rivets then punched them through. The rivet holes are already the correct size for the helicoil tap, no further drilling is required. I hope this helps.
@yamahadallas Жыл бұрын
Perfect. Thanks for the information.
@reinaldoht7365 Жыл бұрын
How noise was before? You could insert the 1st noise.
@melsmotors Жыл бұрын
The engine was too loud when running so you couldn't really hear it, that's why it's not in the video, sorry
@DaveDayve Жыл бұрын
At what mileage does it start to fail pls. Great video Tks
@melsmotors Жыл бұрын
It can be from any mileage, from 3000 to 15000
@DaveDayve Жыл бұрын
@@melsmotors oh, was interested in the tracer 7. I'll not purchase it then
@Jimmy-jr1nx7 ай бұрын
hello my friend, where can I find the silentblok kits for the bell????🙏🙏
@melsmotors7 ай бұрын
Do you mean the rubbers? If so we sell them. Please fill out the form on our website melsmotors.co.uk/contact-us/
@Jimmy-jr1nx7 ай бұрын
yes exactly I would like to order them
@predatorfzr10 ай бұрын
Good work. I have 2 questions: how much kms have the bike? and where you buy the new Rubber? Thanks .👍👍👍
@melsmotors10 ай бұрын
Hi, this had 17,000 miles and we sell the rubbers
@predatorfzr10 ай бұрын
@@melsmotors How much does the kit cost including VAT and shipping to Italy? Thank you
@melsmotors10 ай бұрын
@@predatorfzr Sadly I do not send outside of the UK, been scammed too many times!
@fudenciojp96765 ай бұрын
Hinson Racing Clutch Basket Cushion Kit (CU216)
@Zlonoacer11 күн бұрын
@@melsmotors How much is the rubbers ? I’m 🇬🇧 buyer Have you used M6 or M7 bolts Thanks
@Tackyauto2 жыл бұрын
I've got a weird noise/vibration at 3-3.5k revs which seems to be hella prominent at held speeds, like 30mph or 40mph and that can be in 2nd-4th gears. It's like a piece of the bike below is moving against the rest of the bike and I can feel a strong vibration through the handlebars and foot pegs. I figured it was the clutch basket but really not sure - Is that what you had with this? Mines a 2014 MT-09 ABS.
@melsmotors2 жыл бұрын
Hi, vibrations were one of the symptoms with this job. Thanks for watching 👍😊
@laurenceharvey62022 жыл бұрын
Superb job, well done 👍
@brunofrancesconi1992 Жыл бұрын
where can I buy the silent blocks of the mt 09 clutch?
@Jocek172 жыл бұрын
where do you buy this parts
@ryan858892 жыл бұрын
Anyone with a 2021 Tracer 9 or XSR900 feel a slight vibration of the bike between the clutch hitting the friction zone and fully releasing the clutch upon takeoff? Not sure if this is the same problem this video addresses.
@melsmotors2 жыл бұрын
Hi Ryan, the vibrations are part of the symptoms of this issue. But I can't confirm that you have the same issue from afar, I would suggest taking it to your local bike dealer for confirmation. Thanks for watching 🙂👍
@cjeje8145 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful
@tomerpur23 Жыл бұрын
graet movie my friend
@mustafaklc6722 Жыл бұрын
Great job 👏👏👏
@gallstar2012 жыл бұрын
Hi, My XSR900 just clocked 40,000. I have always thought the gearbox a bit vibey. Like the output shaft bearing was the problem. But could it be this? Yes I have the noise coming from the clutch area. What happens if left alone , can it fail?
@melsmotors2 жыл бұрын
Hi John, thanks for watching my video. Your bike has the exact same clutch basket, part number B7N1615000, so realistically, yes it could be the same issue, it's a very common problem. My customer also complained about a vibration which has now been eliminated since the fix. I've heard of this problem from as low as 15000 miles! It's unlikely to fail as I had to drill the rivets out, but it'll only get worse from here on. 🤞
@betamaxtuned2 жыл бұрын
@@melsmotors hi whats the size of the bolt and rivets?
@betamaxtuned2 жыл бұрын
Whats the complete spec tap drill size,thread insert size, bolt size & torque for the bolts?
@melsmotors2 жыл бұрын
@@betamaxtuned you need an M6 helicoil set ebay.us/twj90O everything you need is in the kit, Do not drill the holes bigger! they are already the correct size for the tap in the kit. Use lock tight ebay.us/nlu47f on the bolts and I think I torqued them to about 15Nm - 18Nm. Use a 1/4 torque wrench ebay.us/GNKxDy . The torque number is not overly important as long as they're all the same torque, you will get a feel for the correct tightness. I hope this helps and thanks for watching 👍😊
@betamaxtuned2 жыл бұрын
@@melsmotors whats the size of the taper screw and length?
@kennethlyon5407 Жыл бұрын
Hi mate I think I have the same problem,it started about 50 miles after the 600 mile service .been to two dealership's and they don't want to no they just say the bike is ok .it look like there is a problem with yamaha.why put rubber bush in where you can't change them and nobody wants to accept it . 3000 mile and the bike sound's crap ,😡😡
@melsmotors Жыл бұрын
It's a common issue and Yamaha will not put their hands up to it! Sorry dude 😔
@Paul-hb9lx11 ай бұрын
My happened after 600 mile service too. Fowler's of Bristol not interested at all.
@darrenedwards78892 жыл бұрын
Hi my clutch has the same problem where are you based ? I'm in Norwich
@melsmotors2 жыл бұрын
I'm in Bracknell, Berkshire
@darrenedwards7889 Жыл бұрын
Where did your m8 get the rubber bushes from please as want to fix mine . Cheers . Gr8 vid
@John_Ridley10 ай бұрын
Best thing to do about this is to ignore it. It's a commonly reported issue and hundreds of people report just ignoring it, and it has never caused anyone any trouble as far as I have read.
@melsmotors10 ай бұрын
Some people would just rather not hear it! Thanks for commenting 👍👍😊😊
@alexamirbegishvili8279 Жыл бұрын
Those are m6 x 12mm bolts right?
@melsmotors Жыл бұрын
I believe they were
@jamiehithere2 жыл бұрын
Do you have the part number for the rubbers? Thanks
@juliusantanaitis77902 жыл бұрын
hinson cu 216
@oceanlancer2 жыл бұрын
any aftermarket baskets to sort this issue ?
@melsmotors2 жыл бұрын
Hi oceanlancer, not that I'm aware, it's either repair or replacement. Thanks for watching 😊
@fatcat23982 жыл бұрын
Nice job 👍
@ksbbenatav75882 жыл бұрын
הוא יודע את העבודה
@71ojn2 жыл бұрын
blue loctite enough for the screws?
@melsmotors2 жыл бұрын
Yes it is. Red loctite is bearing lock
@jamiehithere2 жыл бұрын
What sort of noise do you get with those worn out rubbers ?
@melsmotors2 жыл бұрын
Normally a chatter on idle, if you put the bike in 1st gear and release the clutch slowly whilst stationary just to load the clutch slightly the noise should stop, if it does then that's the problem.
@jamiehithere2 жыл бұрын
@@melsmotors kzfaq.info7XHGZgVYkFg, heres a video of my noise, is it similar?
@davea99467 ай бұрын
Yamaha should be doing a recall
@melsmotors7 ай бұрын
Yes they should but they're just ignoring the problem 😔
@saimirzenelaj48442 жыл бұрын
Do you have the part number?
@cliffc8830 Жыл бұрын
Hi can I get you to do this job for me
@shakal6152342 жыл бұрын
Hi how do you use loctite ? how is his number ?
@melsmotors2 жыл бұрын
You can use any blue thread lock, there is no right or wrong, this is just a solution to this problem that I did. I used thread lock as a safety measure. Thanks for watching 🙂👍
@shakal6152342 жыл бұрын
@@melsmotors Thanks for answer.
@eyalvolkmar6558 Жыл бұрын
I did it today. You are skipping important info. 1.Let loctite dry 24h. 2. Last friction plate have to be 1 nutch off the rest, anf more.
@melsmotors Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the update, yes the last plate is one notch over, I corrected the one in the video after someone else noticed it! 😣 Don't forget it's a 20 minute video.
@davidlee13752 жыл бұрын
Can you do mine its realy noisey
@melsmotors2 жыл бұрын
No problem, we are currently struggling for stock as we have quite a few orders already in the queue.
@davidlee13752 жыл бұрын
@@melsmotors ok can i ask what was the total cost of the job please
@przemekwarzycki65162 жыл бұрын
Hi where did you buy rubber parts?
@melsmotors2 жыл бұрын
Hi, the parts are only available through our trade supplier, not available for the after market, sorry
@przemekwarzycki65162 жыл бұрын
@@melsmotors is that parts from yz450?
@melsmotors2 жыл бұрын
@@przemekwarzycki6516 it could be I've never replaced one or seen one on a YZ450
@przemekwarzycki65162 жыл бұрын
Ok thx gretings from Poland
@betamaxtuned2 жыл бұрын
@@przemekwarzycki6516 i got the rubber parts lmk
@TYPE1media2 жыл бұрын
Bit easier to work on that clutch isn’t it 😅
@melsmotors2 жыл бұрын
So much easier 😁 Than a Guzzi
@bollomator Жыл бұрын
Hi mel. Where did you buy the new rubbers
@bollomator Жыл бұрын
hi mel , from where did you buy the new rubbers
@melsmotors Жыл бұрын
We have them made and sell them directly to consumers
@FAIRY_ANIMAL Жыл бұрын
@@melsmotors is possible to order this rubbers for 2014 mt09 and send it to Netherlands? Thank you
@jessicalee54872 ай бұрын
Besides the noise, what would have happened if this is not fixed?
@melsmotors2 ай бұрын
Hi, not a lot, it will just get louder. You'll only hear this on idle, during riding it's quieter and drives normally 👍