Yamaha XJ600 Diversion / Seca 2 - Clutch Rattle / Engine noise fix.

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The Yamaha XJ600 Diversions / Seca 2 can suffer an annoying rattle, one of the causes of this rattle, is well documented on the xjrider.com forum along with a recommended fix. You commonly hear that the noise is caused by clutch rattle but that's not entirely accurate. There are four causes of that noise heard at idle and oil pump drive gear noise is at the bottom:
Carb synchronization - this has to be spot on or it makes noise as the pistons/crankshaft have force applied differently.
Carburetor pilot screws mis-adjusted - this causes each cylinder to fire differently and results in noise at idle, similarly to carb synchronization.
Gearbox wear - as the shift forks and the gear teeth wear, the tolerances increase. This allows the shift forks, synchronizers and gears to move around as the engine idles (albeit a small bit) resulting in noise.
Oil pump drive gear - you already went after that.
Start with a very thorough and accurate synchronization of the carbs, then set the pilot screws consistently, then change the oil to a heavier weight (temperature appropriate, of course) and see how your idle sounds.
This video shows the steps highlighted in the guide on the xjrider.com forum. If attempting this fix yourself, the risk and the potential damage that can be done is yours, and yours alone. I made this video to show the steps involved, and whilst not complicated or hard to achieve, could have adverse affects, I'm not a mechanic and am not pretending to be, but am happy to video what I did to resolve this issue. If you are going to attempt this yourself, make sure you watch the video all the way through first, and look at the guide on the xjrider.com forum as well, there are specific tools needed to complete the job, so make sure you have everything prior to starting. Good luck
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@ZZR1200Kwacker 5 жыл бұрын

Forgot to tell people to unlock TAB washer and didn't show doing it up either. If you're going to instruct you must not leave things out as you can't assume people know how to do these things or how important that TAB washer is... Naming of tools - 'snap ring remover' - changes to correct Circlip pliers.

@GTsGarage 5 жыл бұрын

Cheers Steve for the feedback, will pin if you don't mind to make sure the fact I missed the tab washer in the instruction is highlighted to other viewers.

@mercedesbenz2171 6 жыл бұрын

Your the ONLY GUY on KZfaq that actually shows how to remove the basket ..no kidding there was one video that was close but then he skipped the basket removal part ...thanks mate

@GTsGarage 6 жыл бұрын

Welcome, glad it helped you out.

@simonkirby6558 9 жыл бұрын

Thank you for doing this video. It took me 2 hours from start to finish with coffie brakes 😊Changed oil and filter at the same time too. works a treat.

@GTsGarage 9 жыл бұрын

+Simon Kirby Thank you for the feedback fella, really appreciated and made up about the fact it helped you out. ride safe

@javiersan66 3 жыл бұрын

Muy buen vídeo, perfectamente explicado como reparar el ruido del embrague en la "Diver". Muchas Gracias por el aporte de conocimientos mecánicos.

@dexter240279 3 жыл бұрын

Why did you use a split pin and 3mm Allen key to cure the clutch problem ? Could you not have measured the dimensions of what the pin size would be and cut down and use an old drill bit instead ? Thanks

@RevvedUpBiker 9 жыл бұрын

Great video. When it comes to taking my clutch apart I'll be taking a look back at this. Thanks for sharing. :)

@GTsGarage 9 жыл бұрын

***** Cheers fella, appreciated :)

@kennethmisskelley1251 8 жыл бұрын

I bought a 1995 seca in 1999 it had 10k miles .It has 55k on it now it has rattled every since i bought it .I have always thought the clutch was about to go out .I bought a new clutch a week after i bought my bike have been waiting till it died to replace .Thanks to you i now know how to repair my old girl .Maybe i will put the new clutch in while im at it .Many thanks

@GTsGarage 8 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback Kenneth, glad it could be of some help. Ride safe jason.

@TTOCS11 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome video brother, just got myself a 600 Diversion for my first "big" bike, and it has this rattle, so will be a nice job for the winter, cheers Scott take care mate.

@GTsGarage 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Scott, well worth scanning the comments prior to starting the job, I had lots of feedback on alternative things to potentially try prior to the strip. You can find a full write on the process on xjrider.com. if you haven't yet become a member your missing out, the resources and knowledge on that site are second to none. Don't waste a second, join now :)

@TTOCS11 5 жыл бұрын

Will do bud, I'll head over there now, cheers Scott

@PackraftBeta 9 жыл бұрын

I was thinking of doing more how to's and less of the other stuff. I think you just pushed me over the edge in my decision.

@GTsGarage 9 жыл бұрын

Haulin' on a Lo Do it.... and you have the perfect bike :)

@anttihelin8820 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I had all the problems in my clutch pack. That metal pin was loose and also the nut at the beside the clutch pack was handloose. Altough there was a lock plate under it. I made a pin out from cobolt drill pit and fitted it in with some loctite. Now the only sound from my clutch is old plates. 8 + 8 plates and all of them weared off some much from both sides, so that's the sound.

@yankeedoodle880 9 жыл бұрын

Top work GT, your best vid so far buddy :)

@GTsGarage 9 жыл бұрын

yankee doodle Thanks fella, appreciated.

@javiersan66 3 жыл бұрын

Muy buen vídeo, entiendo que con esa pieza que fabricas se le quita el ruido tan molesto que produce la campana del embrague ciando la moto está en ralentí.

@MrGaserf 8 жыл бұрын

so thats what that noise is ,cheers mate will be doing this at the weekend

@GTsGarage 8 жыл бұрын

+MrGaserf Good luck fella, hope the job went well

@TheBillieBallantine 9 жыл бұрын

So Informative!! THANKS, MAN!!

@GTsGarage 9 жыл бұрын

Back Road Moto Cheers fella.

@chrisrag1346 4 жыл бұрын

uh so I've actually got to see where that annoying rattle is coming from. Thanks GT

@jefferydanton65 8 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your response g t. I have fixed half a dozen early divvy's in my time and it's always the same carb problem. This pin is case hardened to 80 rockwell ( to put that into perspective a cobalt drill bit is hardened to 42 rockwell) and it does not wear. If you can't tune it out with a carb balance it's because a pilot jet is blocked. its all over the Internet forums about replacing this pin. Please try a carb balance. kind regards jeff.

@Fardenco 8 жыл бұрын

So if I understand, we just have to make sure everything is ok with the carbs and the sound will disappears ? Is the play between the pin and the hole normal, and it's the uneven firing due to bad carb sync which causes this rattle ? Or do the uneven firing causes vibrations which cause a wear of something which cause the rattle ?

@k.eppert8332 9 жыл бұрын

Is this nasty peg possibly also responsible for a recognisable sharp "clack" that I hear after I have shifted into a higher gear, release the clutch and engage the throttle?

@Baltuc_Racing 4 жыл бұрын

That very important piece , how do I know with side goes where? I messed up and forgot 😞

@bloodyhell451 9 жыл бұрын

Brave stuff GTS ! Nice fit too.

@GTsGarage 9 жыл бұрын

vitaly deuterium Thanks :) that moment when it snaps in place and you're hoping there isn't any play

@whoamiuk1 9 жыл бұрын

very interesting and great vid as always mate

@GTsGarage 9 жыл бұрын

whoamiuk1 Thank you, did you get those bearings you wanted?

@whoamiuk1 9 жыл бұрын

I got someone that said there going to send me a few parts so hope so yes thanks mate.

@motodevcam Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video! Question about the thrust washer. The washer came away with the basket without problems but when putting it back I note that although it's splined and slides over the shaft pushing it all the way to the back there is a none-splined section where the thrust washer can spin freely. Is this normal or has a previous owner somehow installed the shaft incorrectly?

@user-ge8hc7zv8r 3 ай бұрын

It's easier to use a 5.5mm drill bit, and cut your new pin from the end of it. Works a treat.

@alalsderalkeram 5 жыл бұрын

Think you for every thing

@MackieBass 7 жыл бұрын

Very well executed my man.

@GTsGarage 7 жыл бұрын

Cheers fella, I watch your vids with Envy fella, very talented man, and shit sir you can drink lol

@MackieBass 7 жыл бұрын

Talent / practice... same thing really. And the drink is a very important tool in my workshop! I'm thinking of doing some beginner pinstriping / airbrushing tutorials...beer is obviously a must then! ;)

@petermoygannon698 4 жыл бұрын

I've got clutch chatter on my husqavana fc 450 motocross 150 hours on it ..in neutral with the lever out that's the clutch engaged .. it's chatering ..pull the clutch in to the handlebar and the noise goes away I would only have one big gear on the back of my main clutch houseing around 150 mm diameter that comes in contact with a smaller 50 mm gear that's on my crankshaft ..would my chatter be the backlash in those gears ..my new 450 has no noise yet but I can here it getting louder after every 20 hrs

@nipoize 16 күн бұрын

Podrías decirme en qué sentido va la arandela que tiene los bordes curvos?

@mimbaixo 4 жыл бұрын

Hello, greetings from Portugal, i have a Xj600, with the same Clutch Rattle noise, i'm thinking of doing the same doel pin job you did in this video. At 5:53m you have in your hand an Allen Key and another piece, what is that piece? Could you tell me where can i find one? Thank you very much.

@guyonacub4335 Ай бұрын

Hi Its been a while since this video was made Question Is ther not a new ungraded pin from Yamaha that could be installed How much bigger in diameter should the homemade pin be please Looking at the new pin installed it looks like it isnt possible for it to fall out Or as a precaution is it advisable to lock tight it in place Thanks for this video

@MidwestMotoRider 9 жыл бұрын

Good job my man! Well done. I however am a fair weather rider! :) Mostly because I don't have good riding gear. Have a drink on us for a job well done can't wait to see the forks!

@GTsGarage 9 жыл бұрын

MidwestMotoRider Thanks, how's you? So what happened with the dog attack, was it a neighbours, ownerless?

@MidwestMotoRider 9 жыл бұрын

GTs Garage It was my Daughters new room mate, I was in Chicago helping her move and her new room mate had this Pitbull\Boxer mix dog that is about 1 to 2 years old. Anyway just out of no where it decided to try and rip my face off. Still don't know why everyone said it is a friendly dog.. Not too friendly to me.. :)

@GTsGarage 9 жыл бұрын

Ouch, the mother-in-law has the same effect on horses, apparently horses attack her on sight... has to be said, I am the only one in the family that's finds this remotely funny...

@MidwestMotoRider 9 жыл бұрын

GTs Garage It is funny. Normally dogs love me this is the first one that has ever tried to bite my face off. I suspect it may have to do with my playing with our Cats just before going to Chicago where it happened.

@aidankivlehan2668 4 жыл бұрын

Hi there, great video. I have limited mechanical knowledge but by following this video I was able to dismantle my clutch quite easily. I ordered a brand new replacement dowel but it is exactly the same size as the old one and it still allows the cog to move or rattle. I was wondering if the cog is actually supposed to move. I would appreciate your thoughts on this before I make a tighter fitting dowel.

@Gruxxan 3 жыл бұрын

there is supposed to be some play to protect the oil pump from damage. you would be far better off overhauling your carbs and balancing them.

@thomasfinch5605 7 жыл бұрын

GTs Garage Hey Mike, would this be the same procedure for a Yamaha Radian?

@rafalitro1 8 жыл бұрын

muchas gracias,desde España, me has ayudado mucho con tu video.."""""excelente""""""""""

@GTsGarage 8 жыл бұрын

+rafalitro cerdeño Sorry I don't speak Spanish, but the by the power of google translate Excelente , gracias por los comentarios , viaje seguro.

@lorobal 5 жыл бұрын

¿se te quito el ruido cuando hicistes lo del video?. A mi no

@user-vy1hc7mm4n 8 ай бұрын

hi, i have xj600 1995. i have lost all gears, if the bike is in any gear it can be pushed along with clutch lever out. any idea many thanks........

@Gruxxan 3 жыл бұрын

i would say the play between the pin and the oil pump drive cog is designed, otherwise the drive connection to the oil pump is very harsh, in the same way there must be some slack in the drive chain to avoid damaging the gear box. the rattle is due to carb imbalance, as it induces a slight oscillation which causes a wobble which makes the rattle. i think over time this 'fix' may damage the oil pump. it would be better to first overhaul the carbs particularly the idle jets, and balance the carbs, before assuming its the oil pump cog drive pin which is the problem. IE the pin makes the noise, which is the symptom, but it is not the cause.

@Touchmeimsick_____x 8 жыл бұрын

Very cool thanks for sharing!

@GTsGarage 8 жыл бұрын

+touchme imsick Welcome, thank you for the comment, appreciated.

@cmaxjoe 10 ай бұрын

Great vdeo,thanks.

@MrHanky1989 Жыл бұрын

I have a clutch rattle on my XJ600 51j "pre divi" , disapears when you pull the clutch lever. Could this be the problem on my bike aswell?

@alalsderalkeram 5 жыл бұрын

You good man

@bikersquest 9 жыл бұрын

Very interesting vid!

@GTsGarage 9 жыл бұрын

Bikers Quest Thanks fella, appreciated.

@IchibanMoto 9 жыл бұрын

well done sir ! five out of five stickers for you !

@GTsGarage 9 жыл бұрын

Ichiban Moto Thank you, appreciate the stickers and the comment

@GTsGarage 9 жыл бұрын

Ichiban Moto Thank you, appreciated.

@jefferydanton65 8 жыл бұрын

It's not the hole that wears its the other end of the pin where it drives the oil pump gear that causes the rattles because of uneven firing.. This only happens up to about 2000 rpm after which the carb slides start to lift and take over the fueling from the pilot jets. you will notice the bike runs without fault when on the power and then nocks and rattles like a pig on idle. try it...

@samurduarte4064 5 жыл бұрын

i have this problem, when i press the clutch, it stops, the noise also comes from the clutch area of the engine, is it achiavable for someone who doesnt understand about engines, to fix it using this vídeo? also, will it be harmfull to keep riding the bike without fixing? apreciate the help

@Edward-ur5lg Ай бұрын

Yep I know been like that since I got it normal actually

@drewerz01 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this video. I will try this fix myself on my own XJ600 which has the same clutch rattle. The Motorcycle service shop that I took mine to, told me that that engine does suffer from clutch rattle and that it is something specifically to do with the clutch basket, so you have confirmed that they were right. Thanks again for taking the time to do this video. Will sorting out this rattle issue have any impact on the "clunkiness" of my gearbox?

@GTsGarage 7 жыл бұрын

Not sure to be honest about any other rattles, but if you read the other comments on the video, there are other solutions you could try also. Happy New Year ..

@drewerz01 7 жыл бұрын

No worries mate. I haven't done mine yet, but will do soon. I'm just a bit worried about getting a wider dowel to fit the clutch basket. Thinking about it some more though, I very much doubt it will make any difference to my gearbox. These gearboxes are naturally a bit "agricultural" anyway, after all they aren't a sports box designed for race changes. I tend to be quite lazy with my gear changes anyway, and I think that emphasizes the clunkiness of it, especially in 1st to 2nd. So going back to drifting in your new wider dowel, how best to reem out the clutch basket to fit the wider dowel, if you don't have a pillar drill ect?? Thanks.

@GTsGarage 7 жыл бұрын

Hi Mike, you don't make any changes to the existing basket, dowel that causes the rattle is to loose, all you are doing is putting a thicker dowel in to the same hole. Have a look on the www.xjrider.com boards and you can see a picture by picture guide on dong the adjustment.

@samnicholson304 4 жыл бұрын

The spacer between the basket and inner clutch hub you said is camberd and must go back in a the same way it came out. Mine was already out so how do I tell the correct way it goes back in and what are the consequences of it being wrong

@andrewharris7123 Жыл бұрын

Hi did u find out which way this washer goes in after, im slowly restoring an old divy and in process of changing clutch, mine also was already out, vids on utube contradict themeselves with some saying camber inwards and some saying camber outwards Thanks in advance

@diezales6480 2 жыл бұрын

Any videos about Yamaha radian

@lashowpan9343 8 жыл бұрын

Fantastic information can't wait to do mine,I like a smooth quite bike (old biker)

@GTsGarage 8 жыл бұрын

+Paul Johnson Hi Paul, another commented on the video says the cause of the rattle could be as easy as balancing the carbs... worth checking out the comment before opening the clutch cover and potentially costing yourself £20 for a new gasket.. Good luck fella.. ride safe.

@lashowpan9343 8 жыл бұрын

Ha ha,well 20 squid in the tank is worth a long spin on a Sunday! But when it comes to carb balance I have it down to a T it's definitely a job for your modification,cheers bud :-)

@mototom9086 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you !!!

@user-gx2yg7wz6w 7 жыл бұрын

رحمه الله على والديك

@xboxice2005 5 жыл бұрын

I'm wondering if this is my issues,I have a 2008 Hyosung GT650 and it rattle badly,if you pull the clutch it goes away,I bought new clutch plates and basket but haven't installed them yet,watching this video I'm now rethinking 🤔

@GTsGarage 5 жыл бұрын

Hi, I couldn't say one way or the other, but given the potential damage that could be done, I would ask around on the specific forum, even if its to say I have seen this video, could this be my issue, prior to trying anything. Good luck and hope you manage to track down and resolve your issue.

@terryowen3841 2 жыл бұрын

Would a OEM dowel not fix it .

@makcim55 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video!!! Why you set two pins, not one hard? Do not you think that this design is even weaker factory !? I would like to know, this design is still working, silently? sorry for the bad English, I'm from Russia)

@GTsGarage 7 жыл бұрын

Hi Maxc, to be honest I don't know why the guide used the allen key and spring, but the guys on the forum have used it and there no reports of it not being a long term solution. There are also another couple of posts from other people below that suggest other solutions. Worth taking a look and checking them out before starting the process. The forum I use is the xjrider forum, can thoroughly recommend it.

@diezales6480 2 жыл бұрын

ANY VIDEO ABOUT YAMAHA RADIAN

@JamUltra 8 жыл бұрын

What age is the bike you are working on? What are the sacrificial parts if any... springs, plates, tab washer & Dowel (on this bike)?

@GTsGarage 8 жыл бұрын

+JamUltra Hi, The bike is a 1992 Yamaha Diversion. If the springs are within tolerance and the clutch basket isn't damaged then the only bit that may need replacing is the gasket. A new one of those is about £25.

@JamUltra 8 жыл бұрын

+GTs Garage Does this fault exist in the 1999 model?

@GTsGarage 8 жыл бұрын

+JamUltra To be honest I couldn't say for sure, but everything I read says it is a common issue across the Diversion range. To your earlier comment, I forgot to say there is a tabbed washer beneath the boss nut that you should replace, as once you have folded the tabs over once they are weakened, that comes straight from the manual. Good luck Sir, ride safe.

@hazwaz7166 5 жыл бұрын

If you put a thin strip of electrical tape between the inner gear circle and the surface that it sits on it will wedge the gear and stop the rattle. Then you dont have to mess about driving an IKEA Allen key into your clutch basket.

@GTsGarage 5 жыл бұрын

Cheers Haz, thanks for the comment, its always good to receive feedback and alternative methods as people do read the comments to see what others are saying, and the importance of that cant be under-estimated.

@sixthisoverdrive 9 жыл бұрын

Great job,..and....even though you made it look easy, i can safely say, I will not be attempting this feat. Crack on mate!

@GTsGarage 9 жыл бұрын

sixthisoverdrive Thanks fella, it's not a difficult mod to make :) the filming of it was probably more work and took twice as long to finish lol

@sixthisoverdrive 9 жыл бұрын

Ha ha Ha!!! Isn't that always the case?

@jefferydanton65 8 жыл бұрын

This clutch rattle is caused by out of balanced carbs. This causes uneven firing of the cylinders at idle which in turn causes the clutch basket to oscillate and make that pin rattle. This is a common fault on air cooled 4 cylinder bike engines of this era. try it .

@GTsGarage 8 жыл бұрын

+Jeffery danton Cheers Jeffery, that certainly makes sense, thanks for taking the time and leaving a comment, goes to show you learn something every day

@sleekitwan 8 жыл бұрын

Jeffery Danton sounds right. However, it's not common I get the urge to make the carb balance spot-on, when as we all know this bike is not a machine we buy to blow off a 4-valves per cylinder rival for example. I made a list of the cars it still beats 0-60mph incidentally, it includes the Porsche Cayman S and the Aston Martin Vantage of James Bond fame. Could be very tempted to address this symptom, instead of taking it the carbs need balanced every time I hear it? The hardness of the dowel pin is the issue though you mention in another post - would prefer this pin neither shatters nor bends to snap under work-hardening, nor shears if too soft, that's more worrying I guess, but the fact GTs used a spring-rated material for the covering of the hex key, probably deals with the hardness issue? Good vid, beats wordy explanation.

@lorobal 8 жыл бұрын

Hi . where to buy or borrow the first short tube (which is hollow) thank you very much

@GTsGarage 8 жыл бұрын

+Antonio Loro Hi Antonio, these are what the guide recommended to use. 3/16" x 1" STEEL SPRING TENSION PINS (SELLOK - SPIROL - ROLL - C) QTY 10 ( 321777280781 ) . Cheap as chips on ebay www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.X3%2F16%22+x+1%22+STEEL+SPRING+TENSION+PINS+%28SELLOK+-+SPIROL+-+ROLL+-+C%29+QTY+10.TRS0&_nkw=3%2F16%22+x+1%22+STEEL+SPRING+TENSION+PINS+%28SELLOK+-+SPIROL+-+ROLL+-+C%29+QTY+10&_sacat=0 If you have issues finding or getting them, give me a shout.

@drewerz01 6 жыл бұрын

My XJ has started making a very strange whirring sound now, in addition to my clutch rattle. It all coincided with me putting my single can Remus exhaust back on it, and having the chain adjusted. It all seemed to start from then. I know what I suspect to be the problem, but do you know if the XJ600 is prone to anything nasty at around 34k miles?

@GTsGarage 6 жыл бұрын

No, but would definitely be worth putting a post on the xjrider.com forum, is active and the knowledge and information on the site is 2nd to none.

@Gruxxan 3 жыл бұрын

i know this is an old comment, but there is probably not enough slack in the drive chain and the noise is the gearbox. its nothing to do with the exhaust.

@drewerz01 3 жыл бұрын

@@Gruxxan I don't have my XJ anymore, sold it on a couple of years ago, but the problem turned out to be the final drive output shaft bearing. Just replying now in case someone else having the same problem reads this.

@Gruxxan 3 жыл бұрын

@@drewerz01 thanks for replying. yes that would be caused by an overtightened drive chain. just not enough slack, the chain pulls on the output shaft when the rear suspension is in compression.

@Snurre86 6 жыл бұрын

Can you give a link to the tool at 1:53 one with that locking/ratchet mechanism.

@Snurre86 6 жыл бұрын

Never mind www.amazon.com/pieces-inch-Circlip-Pliers-Shankly/dp/B071LP6C2Q/ref=sr_1_3_sspa?s=power-hand-tools&ie=UTF8&qid=1508548934&sr=1-3-spons&keywords=Snap+Ring+Pliers&psc=1

@zatumotor4658 8 жыл бұрын

thanks!!

@GTsGarage 8 жыл бұрын

+Zatu Motor Great, glad it could help, ride safe

@roymichaeldeanable Жыл бұрын

Ah....the good old days

@cameronadam5805 8 жыл бұрын

ive got a geabox knock in all gears mainly noticeable in second gear 4,500 rev second gear cant work out wats wrong

@GTsGarage 8 жыл бұрын

+Cameron adam Hi Cameron, I am assuming you have an XJ600, if not the forum I am going to suggest would be fairly useless :) These engine tend to be noisy for a number of reasons, and the solutions are sometimes only found through a process of elimination. Are you able to hear the noise with just the engine running, if possible make a recording of the noise, upload to KZfaq, then create an account on xjrider.com and post a question with a link to the video. Someone will certainly have an idea on the best place to start looking and could shorten the list of things to check (save you money) Good luck fella

@bigboi9611 6 жыл бұрын

Ive gotten so used to it by now xD aint changing it

@Edward-ur5lg Ай бұрын

Don't have to it's normal and does not effect the bike at all just the noise is bothersome but it's only at low idle so I live with it

@Eve....747 4 жыл бұрын

I wonder if that's the same rattle I have on my Divvy 9!? 🤔... at idle, as soon revs go go slightly up, the noise is gone....!? 🤔... but saying that, all engine noises I hear on you tube, they all the same!?, unless they all have the same problem... Or its just all engine noise natural!? 🤔... Still going 5 years on, so not that worried, but interested....after watching video.... Video 📹

@Gruxxan 3 жыл бұрын

more likely your carbs need balancing. better to overhaul carbs and get balanced before attempting this.

@IvanZehirov 3 жыл бұрын

THANKS A LOT ! Can I drive my bike without fixing this ?

@GTsGarage 3 жыл бұрын

I haven't read anywhere that you have to do this, as far as I can tell it's optional, You can find a shed load more information about maintenance and everything else XJ relatede on the xjrider.com. good luck and ride safe

@IvanZehirov 3 жыл бұрын

@@GTsGarage Thank you so much again !

@alandrinkwater9867 8 жыл бұрын

Hi love the channel but the music is driving me mad, any chance you can add something decent and mix it up.

@GTsGarage 8 жыл бұрын

+Alan Drinkwater Will see what I can do, limited to an extent to what KZfaq allows but.. will give it ago :)

@MadmMike111185 8 жыл бұрын

and if that's rattling would that cause the oil sensor to go on

@GTsGarage 8 жыл бұрын

+Mike Polzin Mike, as far as I know the rattling wouldn't cause the oil sensor to come on, and nothing I have read would suggest it would be the cause. You would need to have a look at that separately.

@MadmMike111185 8 жыл бұрын

where do I get that dowel you used and what size was it ?? and what was the torque for the spring cover

@GTsGarage 8 жыл бұрын

+Mike Polzin Mike, worth printing off a couple of guides if your planning to do this yourself. The guides can be found here www.xjrider.com/viewtopic.php?f=69&t=5850 and a separate guide here www.xjrider.com/viewtopic.php?f=69&t=2963 I used one of these www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/301799580567?limghlpsr=true&hlpv=2&ops=true&viphx=1&hlpht=true&lpid=122&chn=ps&googleloc=1006596&poi=&campaignid=207297426&device=c&adgroupid=13585920426&rlsatarget=pla-131843275026&adtype=pla&crdt=0&ff3=1&ff11=ICEP3.0.0-L&ff12=67&ff13=80&ff14=122&ff19=0&ul_noapp=true and a 3mm Allen key to as shown in the last guide. For a 1992 Yamaha XJ600 Diversion the clutch pressure plate bolts are listed as 8Nm

@MadmMike111185 8 жыл бұрын

+GTs Garage sweet thanks for replying man I got all my parts to redo my carb got my new exhaust on .. I got new car boots and air cleaner joint s .. just waiting for the parts and we'll see what happens .. my compress was 150 across the bord @ 20.000 miles so I'm hoping redoing the carbs will straighten this bike out so I can a least ride it this summer ... I hear chatter by my clutch when the bike is in nutrel but when I pull it in it clears up?? again thanks

@GTsGarage 8 жыл бұрын

+Mike Polzin Mike, not sure how far you have got, but I got the following message from Jeffery Danton, another avenue to explore, depending on how far you have got...I have also pm'd you the same message. - Thanks for your response g t. I have fixed half a dozen early divvy's in my time and it's always the same carb problem. This pin is case hardened to 80 rockwell ( to put that into perspective a cobalt drill bit is hardened to 42 rockwell) and it does not wear. If you can't tune it out with a carb balance it's because a pilot jet is blocked. its all over the Internet forums about replacing this pin. Please try a carb balance. kind regards jeff.

@MadmMike111185 8 жыл бұрын

+GTs Garage hey at 9:36 when you putting in the clutch plate the silver one is ??? the sharp edge facing in or out

@GTsGarage 8 жыл бұрын

Mike, sorry m8, I don't know I just put in them back in exactly the same order.. I can take a look in the manual this evening for you and see if it has anything in there,,,, might be worth taking a pick and posting it on XJRider...

@user-gx2yg7wz6w 6 жыл бұрын

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@Chromov113 8 жыл бұрын

Seems to me this issue is not critical... Can I just leave it as is?

@GTsGarage 8 жыл бұрын

Absolutely, you don't need to do anything at all

@richhemmings 4 жыл бұрын

Hi mate, Do you have a video of the rattle before? I've been searching the oc forum and web for a while to fix my noise (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/arOSl62hz53HZ40.html) I've replaced springs only at this point, but is this the same rattle that your fix addresses? Cheers 👍

@rjauto7215 9 жыл бұрын

Ya doing well fella ya better at the vid game than I am lol

@GTsGarage 9 жыл бұрын

Roy Webb its just practice and continual learning process, keep the videos coming...

@rjauto7215 9 жыл бұрын

Gonna try and do a vid when I do me cam . I'm gonna do the wheels in white but putting the swing arm from the 1200 bandit bigger wheel then as soon as summer is over gonna paint the bike. Spraying my game really not engines

@412austinstage 8 жыл бұрын

I need help with my clutch it won't engage at all

@GTsGarage 8 жыл бұрын

What have you tried so far, how familiar are you with the workings of the clutch? When you pull the clutch lever, does the clutch rod rotate? Would start at the clutch cable before opening anything else. The link is to a video of a guy replacing his Yamaha Thundercat clutch, should be close enough for you to tight and adjust yours and eliminate it as the potential cause. Let me know how you get on.

@412austinstage 8 жыл бұрын

+GTs Garage I know nothing about street bikes I can work on dirt bikes and quads all day but not street bikes

@davidschmidt1686 2 жыл бұрын

Use a drill head, already comes round and made of metals that have to put up with alot!

@jaymaniwilliams5947 8 жыл бұрын

Hey on my xj it's stuck in neutral you know how I can fix it? It won't shift

@GTsGarage 8 жыл бұрын

Heya, take a look at the following thread, it has a few suggestions based on a number of different scenarios, worth going through the replies. xjrider.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=5467&sid=f2ce06d89225a7d8a40511d5a5ba131a&start=10

@Jay-Tries 8 жыл бұрын

+GTs Garage is there a way I can text you and send you a vid of what I'm looking at. I got a piece to start to rotate that was jammed before I was wondering if this was one of the problems that t was stuck

@Jay-Tries 8 жыл бұрын

+GTs Garage actually the pice you first started to take off with the disk, that was not rotating before and the bike was harder to roll. Now I have it spinning fully and the bike is easier to push. Does this piece effect the gear at all?

@Jay-Tries 8 жыл бұрын

+JayWesTV the big gear that surrounds the the small gear that you says causes the rattle won't budge

@GTsGarage 8 жыл бұрын

Video and put it on your channel and ill take a look, am happy to take a look at what your seeing, and if i cannot help, can post the video on theXJ600 forum and someone there might be able to help.

@lashowpan9343 8 жыл бұрын

just a note, the old GS thou I had was a lot worse than the divvy! and don't talk to me about the starter clutch problems!!!

@GTsGarage 8 жыл бұрын

+Paul Johnson I reckon I can compete on the starter clutch... 3 words, Triumph and Sprag Clutch lol.. Was picked up today, but reckon I wont be seeing the 955i for a couple of weeks.

@lashowpan9343 8 жыл бұрын

Sprag clutch,did ya ever work velo mac 350 set up! Lol.....

@GTsGarage 8 жыл бұрын

+Paul Johnson has to be said I didn't but would love to own one now :)

@wobu5361 6 жыл бұрын

Good but he just glossed over the correct replacement of the cover. The lever needs to be in the right position and you need to show how the dowel with the teeth needs to be properly inserted into the plate and and the cover pulled in while putting on the cover

@GTsGarage 6 жыл бұрын

Absolutely right, this could of been a lot clearer. There is a really nice write up on how to fit the cover correctly dayone.me/28awzSm

@therider3939 6 жыл бұрын

my r1 has that rattle

@GTsGarage 6 жыл бұрын

There could be many reasons for a similar rattle, a couple of the guys in the comments have given other reasons that could be a cause. The solution used here was found on an xj600 forum, xjrider.com, so couldn't say the rattle you're experiencing would be the same fix.