Yoshi's Island: Make Lore, Throw Lore (The Deepest Lore of Super Mario Bros.)

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Yoshi's Island gave us the first adventure Mario ever went on, as well as his first conflict with Bowser. This was also the first Mario game I ever played, for anyone who's interested. Let's look at the lore of Yoshi's Island!
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@heftyrumble 5 ай бұрын

I always look forward to these 😁. Great video as always

@SpoilerGoblin 5 ай бұрын

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed!

@Eris1987 11 күн бұрын

Surprisingly you did a pretty good job and covered all the bases, usually people get something wrong. You even mentioned the twin thing! Only side note I would mention is the OVA while not canon introduces the concept of the Mushroom Kingdom existing on the same planet, a prophecy about the bros, and mentions them, being twins. Seeing your timeline I believe it's pretty good, I only disagree with DK 94. Mario uses his Modern Outfit in this game instead of his Classic Outfit which he canonically uses in the early games, and only switches to his modern outfit in Super Mario Bros 3. Also, Cranky is wearing a necktie which doesn't happen in the older games with other games referring to this fact. I believe Donkey Kong 94 takes place later on sometime when Mario is still living in Big Ape City but has already been on his early Mushroom Kingdom Adventures and has dawned his modern outfit. Donkey having now dawned a necktie has returned to give Mario trouble and repeat his prank from Donkey Kong to once again get a rise out of Mario.

@SpoilerGoblin 11 күн бұрын

Looks like I have quite a few of these comments to go through. Glad you’re enjoying the videos! I agree with the Mushroom Kingdom being on the same planet as everything else in the early games (this was also confirmed by Odyssey), but while the OVA is an interesting take, I still would rather not refer to that in the videos themselves, as it could confuse the canon some. I’ve had a fair amount of pushback on my use of DK Arcade vs DK94. It could be worth revisiting at some point, as it’s probably the most contentious point in my timeline. I could see putting DK Arcade later, but not as late as Mario 3, since we need to account for enough time for DK Jr. to have a son, disappear, and have that son grow into the King of Swing. There’s been some talk lately of whether or not they’re going to simplify that timeline by making Jr. and III the same ape based on the movie, but until we get a confirmation in the games, we need to rely on there being three generations of Monkey between DK94 and DKC.

@Eris1987 11 күн бұрын

@@SpoilerGoblin true on the OVA like I said it's not canon but I found that detail interesting. Well I know the Encyclopedia places the original 3 DK games having been Mario's Adventures before his Adventure in Super Mario Bros. I just think 94 takes place later given what I stated. Don't think movie retconned anything, too many people I've noticed believe that. The Movieverse is established to be it's own thing with many thing differianting it from the Gameverse. I DK being Cranky's son is one of them. We've only ever seen Cranky referred to as DK III's grandfather and vice versa. In game and in the manuals of DKC, Donkey Kong Country 2 GBA's Prologue, DKC2 Diddy's Kong Quest, SuperStar Baseball, and Donkey Kong Country Returns. The only thing that's ever deviated is in DK64 which was a blunder. With even Gregg Mayles clearing things up in 2017 that this was a mistake, and Donkey Kong the Third was always Cranky's grandson.

@SpoilerGoblin 11 күн бұрын

I don't necessarily mean the movie implies anything about the games, but with the fact that Miyamoto seemed to work fairly closely with the studio while they made the film, I have to wonder if it's shifted his view on the subject. It probably hasn't, but it's made me wonder.

@Eris1987 11 күн бұрын

@@SpoilerGoblin well the Mario worldbuilding seems to be more of a collaborative effort. I think this is partially why Miyamoto avoids lore questions. But yeah, probably hasn't, it would be weird if they made such a sudden shift after everything they've established up until this point.