The way he describes is Jewelry 101 any book that tells u to make it flat at the joint is an just wrong. I was formerly trained in a trade school in 1976. I have done over 400,000 repairs , fabrications and CAD designs. I have trained hundreds of professional jewelers on Setting, Bench Tricks, Tool Modification and Laser Welding. The time it takes him to do these videos is incredible. He is sharing the rite way to do stuff for free. Take advantage of his generous sharing of his expertise. There are many shortcuts ( Bench Tricks ) that professionals have developed over years of doing repairs and fabrications. Also new tools like the PEPE bender have been developed to save bench time. Again take advantage of his sharing of his precious time to share his expertise with u. Also the left over curved shank material makes ideal sizing material for future sizing jobs. Steve Satow , Master Jeweler, Certified Master Laser Welder Trainer

I really appreciate that you showed the last option with common tools. Can’t wait to try it!

Very few of these college "professors" have worked in the field they are "teaching". Half of the courses are a waste of time & money. Most of us that work in these fields are more than happy to help the beginners. Always nice to see how somebody else does it. Your never so good that you can't learn something.

Not sure about our cousins across the pond, but in the US we have a saying: "Work smart, not harder." I can't think of a better example of that than what you demonstrated in this video. Ignore the naysayers. This makes 'perfect' sense and thank you for cluing the rest of us in.

This video was a game changer for me! I am a 3rd year student and started using your method. It’s amazing. Crazy how some instructors continue to say that it doesn’t matter about the shape. Or they spend so much time filing the end to get a good seam to solder. This has made such a difference when making thicker rings. Thank you, thank you, thank you Andrew❤️

Thank you Andrew for showing the right way of cutting the ends of the ring, surely I will apply this technique to my next project.

THANK YOU!!!! I am a beginner and with thick silver, and a small ring, I've been struggling to round out the ring...this makes much more sense!

Thank you! I'm a beginner, and saw a video telling to start with the oval and flattened middle JUST yesterday. Since it was on the internet, I of course didn't employ critical thinking; just figured they were the experts, and glad to have that knowledge....

This video has made my day. At my first class in ring making we were told to cut the metal to the exact size on the ring chart. I wasn’t happy with how my ring looked at the join and now I can see why. This method has helped me see my teacher’s method wont be my method moving forward.

I subscribed two days ago. This is the best online teaching. Thank you very much.

I don't make jewelry, but I designed many complex components for industrial applications... What you explained is most logical approach with fewer steps and errors.. So.. less stress, less scratches, less effort, less time, less errors more accurate results, more productivity.. Do I need to continue... Great job.. First time on your channel and you got yourself new sub...👍👍👍

Was having difficulty with a join on a St silver ring I made from high dome strip. This is my first ring ever. Watched your videos a thousand times to see where I was going wrong but I just couldn’t get that silver solder to flow properly. Redoing over and over. I was using Handy Flux because the borax I ordered was taking a while to arrive. Anyway, it turns out, the borax and dish arrived so I tried it immediately. Perfect join. When it flowed, the first thing I thought of was you at your work bench giving instruction saying “look at that, a perfect lovely join.” Not sure why I was unsuccessful with the other flux but at this point I’m calling it resolved. I must have cleaned that ring joint a dozen times trying to get it to work. Thank you so much. If it wasn’t for you, my ring would be 4 sizes too small by now.

Sir, your knowledge is utterly priceless and I thank you for sharing it with us.

I am having a private lesson for free from an expert which I may repeat at will.....amazing!!! Thank you a million times Sir.

I learned this method from the start when I did the course, and it works so much better. When I have enough stock material, I leave in one lenght, if not too overly long to handle. Then after forming one end with the mallet you have enough leverage at the other, longer end to simply ply it around the mandrel with your hand, if your hand strenght is enough in relationship with the thickness of the wire, annealing before bending will make it easier. For the flat wide ring I would not overlap the ends in a spiral shape, but form one end round first by hammering it on the mandrel. Because the metal is thinner it more easy to form the bend right to the end, allow for a bit of cut off on that end, then you can use a steel hammer on that end, which will get the bend more easily right to the end. That part will be marked and flattened out a bit, but it's cut off anyway, don't use the steel hamer on the "good" part of the ring. Doing so will enable you to bend the metal round on top of itself, keep on shaping untill the marks line up, and saw trough both layers in one cut , you will have 2 ends which will close up perfectly. After cutting the waste off gently push the ends with your fingers so they align without height difference, and solder. After soldering minimal reshaping will be needed, pushing the ring on the mandrel twice from both sides will be enough in most cases to make it perfectly round.

what you have shown everyone here-it just simply makes SENSE. Others who happen to disagree- well. let them! and let them them also work twice as hard and do twice the work, too!

I'd seen this method before but hadn't understood why you would use it, particularly as it meant 'wasting' some metal. It now makes so much more sense!

This is brilliant I learnt with the "D shape way" and I'm not the best as sawing straight so always have to file down and therefore waste silver. I've tried this way and I'm so pleased with the result and obvious time saving!!!

I've found a new favourite crafting channel.

Great advice and helped me to succeed, progress past a problem I was simply avoiding because of “failure”

Very useful help after a gap in making, thanks.

Eureka! I have just spent hours struggling to make my first perfectly sized ring using the mis-shapen technique my college tutor demonstrated. I wish I'd seen this demonstration first. So logical, so simple. Thank you Andrew.

you're a genius Andrew, big thanks from a swiss fan :)

Swiss made ring bending pliers are a quality cost effective alternative to the bench top ring benders you demo in your video. One of the best investments I've made.

Thank you for showing mandrel method, finally seen it!

Wow, I needed this from day one... thanks a million Andrew!!!

What an excellent tutorial! And I like your sense of humour too!! Lol 😊👍🌸💮

Thank you, so glad that you are sharing your knowledge, I am soaking it all up. I am a beginner at this craft, such good advice.

Really nice video! I really hate those U shapes and trying to round it out later. This helped me so much!!

Thank you for making all of your videos, Andrew. They are very detailed, smart and useful. Your way of explaining things it's as simple and clear as I need in order to learn. Thank you again, you're great!

I've been thinking of purchase a pro bender, but after watching this video, I can clearly see I wount as the best result actually came from the cheapest equipment (which I allready have) 😅 Thank you 🙏

Thanks for the tips Andrew. Great job.

Just stumbled upon this video and I'm astounded that making "oval" rings is even a thing! I served my apprenticeship under a master jeweller back in the 80s, and the only way ever taught was by hand with the "size stick" (metal mandrel) and hammer. It didn't matter how heavy the silver or gold (or even platinum) band was, it had to be formed by hand, and it had to be round!

It's SOOO refreshing to see you (or anybody) challenging old "myths" that honestly don't seem to work (well). Thank you! I am paying attention!

Thank you for the clarity you have provided with this tutorial.

Brilliant. Thanks Andrew!

Excellent tutorial, Good work thanks for your time and uploading.

Brilliant tutorial thank you for sharing

I am about to start soldering for the first time. I watched a Susan Thomas video before this video and was about to do the “D” method. I am SOOOO GLAD I FOUND YOU! It makes perfect sense that the “D “ method would only put stress on the joint- THANKS SO MUCH ANDREW- I am a new fan!

Awesome video. Thanks a lot!

Great video Andrew, thanks

Beautiful thank u so much for your work!

Great guidance, Andrew! All makes perfect sense.

Very helpful, thanks so much.

Thank you for clarifying this. I was always wondering which is the proper way to shape and solder rings!

Appreciate your tutorials. I can feel confident moving forward using your detailed explanations. Thanks so much!

Great video! This makes so much sense; I can't wait to try it out.

Again i'm learning so much - cheers

Thanks Andrew! This is beautiful. I love your determination and your passion. It's definitely contagious and inspiring. I'm a big fan from Puerto Rico 🇵🇷!!

So helpful, thank you💎🙏

Thanks so much! It never really made sense to me to misshape first then reshape. Who needs more work? This is very helpful info & I'm looking forward to the follow-up. Keep the good stuff coming, please!

20+ years ago I took a ring making course at a community college and this was how the instructor told us to do it. Over the years I have never seen anyone do this, always the D shape, so I thought maybe I had remembered incorrectly. But the first rings I made in that class had beautiful, practically invisible solder seams, and so much handmade jewelry I have purchased over the years has had ugly, gappy very visible solder seams. I'm starting up again making jewelry and I can't wait to test this method again and make some beautiful rings.

Thank you!! Great video!👏

Dear Andrew, Thank you so much for this video, you made it so clear and understandable. It's a great lesson.

I love your calm and detailed way of making things totally clear. Well, you might overdo it in a few videos ... Far better than useless scratches of the surface when you want to understand, and be given enough confidence to try yourself.

Excellent information! You have changed the way I will make rings in the future. This takes away a lot of worry about my work holding it's shape and solder. Thank you!

Thank you very much and God bless you.

I love this new way you are teaching to cut rings to size!!!! I've been doing silver for over 30 years and love learning new techniques. This one will surly become a habit for me! Thanks for a great video!

Huge THANK YOU. I have fighting with that other method for a short while and was getting so frustrated. Thank you again Andrew for these videos, making my jewelry making enjoyable again.

That was absolutely brilliant I am just starting out learning how to do these things and I have seen so many KZfaq videos showing the wrong way I am so glad that I have stumbled across your videos I love them thank you so much and keep doing them please

Thank you for making this video on making rings in half the time. I love making jewelry with silver and I want to learn how the create different styles of jewelry. I'll be looking at more of your videos.

Andrew you are awesome! I love the fact that you take the time to explain and show us how to do it properly! Thank you 😂

Very well presented and easy to follow.Having found your video I believe I'm on a winner in regards to my new hobby.Thanks a lot.

Really great video ... I wish you success in your work ... Thank you very much

This is very helpful and you so respectfully Thanks again

This video earned you a new subscriber. Thanks for sharing that.

Good stuff, Andrew. Love your videos.

Absolutely true. Thank you for sharing

thank you so much for this mate i was very concerned as to why i was being taught to make an oval or D shape shank and then form a circular ring this makes alot kore sense im really happy i saw it very early in my jewellery career i love watching your work thank you for making it

Beautiful process, thank you ;-)

This has completely changed and improved my methods for creating hoops & rings.

Fantastic video and channel!

GREAT VIDEO!!! Thank you Andrew. Lary

Bang on brilliant as always

You inspire me with yr enthusiastic way of sharing yr ideas. Thanks a lot

Great video / explanation Andrew. I am currently studying jewelry making and this is exactly what I was thought, make an oval then shape it round. Your explanation makes total sense to me and this is what I will do next time. Thanks!

Thank you for sharing your expertise with us, its been so very helpful. As I am new to this practice, I would find it very helpful to note the tools used in notes. Either way, much gratitude.

very informative!

You are right... I'm sure all the books I have teach the D shape method. This does make more sense! Thank you!!!

thank you so much for this. you've made my life so much easier.

THANK YOU, I have been taught the weird 'D' shape in order to solder rings and I never get the correct size! I am going to try your technique as it seems to make so much more sense. I love your videos, your style of teaching is spot on in my opinion x

Love it! Love it! Love it!

I want to thank you for your videos and I have done it with the thicker metal, I will try using your method on the 1 mm wire.thanks again for the info Larry Dallas

I'm a toolmakers, we sometime weld or solder seals for hydraulic and pneumatic seal joints. We never heard of D shape. We just make sure that both ends have an angle filed or machined.perfect results every time. As we say in engineering, any skilled precision toolmaker can do jewellery. But skilled jeweller need to be trained to be a toolmaker.

Hello Andrew this is the first of your videos that I’ve ever seen I really loved it and made it easy to understand and give me more confidence thank you subscribed.👍

Great video

Thank you, this method is going to save a lot of time.

Your video was very helpful for me, thank you so much, I learned the old fashion way of making ring, I’m going to try your way next time.

Thank you for all the great information. Ill be watching more videos for sure!!David Idaho

I really, really, like your videos!!!

I've never heard of starting off with a flat or elliptical as shown. Just doesn't make sense. This was a good tutorial video showing various ways of getting the job done the proper way. Well done. I've never had the ring benders in my home shop, but use the ring bending pliers with the jaws sanded and smoothed a bit and taped to aviod marking the metal.

Brilliant!!!!!

This technique is wonderful. It makes sense! Wondering if it could be done with bezels because I have the same problem .... and I end up with a bezel that is a size smaller. Thank you soooooooo much, Andrew.

Dear Andrew I’m right in front of you about the band being flat and ends butted together. Make the band round, put the ends together and drop a fine blade through the joint and it will be lovely jublie.

2 layers of insulation tape on the outside of the silver strip or wire, one on top of the other so double thickness , run Stanley knife around edge , the un protected surface goes against the round post in your bending jig and the tape prevents all the damage apart from the tiniest marks on the outer edges. Also if you are doing something like a cigar band that is tapered , once shape has been pierced out , put it back inside the original strip & tape them together as above , it makes it easier to prevent ring curling upwards and overlapping. Nice videos , i have been doing similar to your instructions for 40 years , joints seldom fail especially if a piercing saw has been passed through the joint a few times to guarantee two perfectly mating surfaces before soldering.

Thanks for this clever method and deep detail about the process. I've always wondered about these joins on thicker bands, and how the angle at which you file the ends affects the stress on the join during forming. You had me at "brute force and ignorance" (my two greatest natural talents).

Awesome...Awesome Awesome Video Andrew.. I am going to be training in jewelry making and I want to learn the right way..

Andrew thank you very much for your awesome tutorials, may i ask the mandrel is tapered shape, will that not effect the ring inner shape when hammering it or will it stay flat? Thank you again

thanks so much!

I have seen this method being demonstrated making PMC rings, and wondered why. They would take the metal clay and lap it over rather than side to side. Looking forward to your video next week on getting the edges to meet. Thanks so much for taking the time to create the video.