FINALLY A GOOD INTRO

24:01 you're correct. Scientifically speaking, men and women do have hardwired emotional differences and psychological differences, but in terms of race, they are quite negligible.

I'm slowly starting to like this left wing Channel...

War of the worlds is one of the worst movies ever. It only probably has a 70+% rating because Christians are stupid and probably loved that ass pull ending. Also, race is what we should call a variation. Like I have orange cat, and a tabby they are siblings. I have a mostly black cat with white highlights and a mostly white cat with black spots, also siblings. I prefer to call racism ethnicism because racism acts like we are separate races. We are the human race. I feel like the first step to ending racism is realizing we are pretty much all children of Africa. Racism mostly ended with cro-magnon and neanderthals. We need to get over ourselves. Am I as an Irish person inferior because pain pills don't effect me as much?

@@jhangzhou1762 "negligible" like west african v.s east african musculoskeletal systems? We all know one of the two is specialized for long distance running and the other for sprinting. Both tribes~peoples dominate thdur resoective body type's ability on the global scale of competition(with us Jamaican-born and the U.S blacks being west african tribes with specific gene mutation for being the very best of all west african tribes in sprinting). *Non negligible differences in attributes and aptitude are real,* we all know pure asians(excluding Russians and non Yogi browns) are well known for having the most flexible~limber ligaments among all peoples or as you wrongly call them "races."

Most of the time*

Ah so you've noticed they aren't against racism.

I think this mostly has to do with the american notion of race and ethnicity. The USA has such a specific and internatilized history and culture with regard to race as a social category that it sometimes becomes hard to look at the system "from the outside"

You're using the old liberal definition of "racism" there, and not the way it's used by the people who believe in the bizarre Manichean war in heaven that underpins intersectional social justice.

Because they are racist and only see race

Y'all take the chicken and divide it between the homies, except Latrel, cause he whack, how many pieces of chicken you got? I am making a joke but I cannot imagine how frustrating this has to be to a black person.

@@CrestOfArtorias hearing how there is a book on this is ridiculous.

There are 0 remainders when dividing them gizzards between the household. Trus me! Also keep the oven open for 2.75 hours if the studio apartment with your 5 siblings and 3 cousins that live there need that 100 square feet to be at a toasty 72 degrees for at least 2 hours. That how me and the fam learned Maff Matics son.

Don’t forget the watermelons at the market!

The world is a sad and depressing place. Comments like these give me some hope.

Thank you for saving me 2 hours lol

Wish it was a bit more entertaining than this

Basically dancing around the idea that certain racial groups just don't learn like others. What if black brains are different? But no one wants to even entertain that question.

If you’re going to talk about people learning differently men and women actually do learn differently

Can we just admit black culture is toxic? I used to disagree with the religious black ladies in the 90s who were against rap. They were right rap is highly toxic it ruined a generation ffs what more info do u need on it?

He is the prime example for his own claim

It is literally alt-right positions, simply reworded! The only thing he didn't get into is calling the problem genetic!

Whenever the world “special” is used to describe someone, it’s probably going to be insulting

This is the pervasive crt attempting to be brought to schools that james Lindsay has been detailing for years now.

The most incredible part for me is that, even if you fully understand the nuance and phrases - it’s still is fucking insane Very few things are like that

Since overall it isn't race it's gender, boys at times want to be hand on. Teach math in a different way than sit down, shut up, and drill the numbers in their head like they're Mason from Black Ops

Now imagine what you could have achieved with some Masai hop dancing.

It has everything to do with culture not race. Nigerians in America are likely to be high educated and have a high income, while with afro americans its the opposite

A lot of this is making excuses for the Teacher's union and people who give up on Black children. It gives them cover. A lot of this is people who do not want to improve the lives of Black children, and using "antiracism" as their explanation when they are the ones creating an even bigger racial divide. Instead of expecting lower educational performance and teaching to a lower standard for Black children, we need to expect more and better... because you know and I know that Black children can do the math (just look at African immigrant children who absolutely clean up when it comes to college admissions and standardized testing). Expect more! Enough with the soft bigotry of low expectations... it's still bigotry, no matter how nice it sounds to the Progressive idiots who push these ideas.

"CRT fails with me is when it says that race is the problem kids can't learn" Does CRT really say this? I thought it was about systemic racism, not race itself.

@@kc_h7hyeah but you leave out that our country (USA) cherry picks their immigrants the intelligent ones are only accepted or they have to work a crap career the reason immigrants push education so much is not for prestige in the country but because it's an requirement to stay here that's it. You can look this up but you kids gotta start traveling that’s all I have to say.

It's just good old horseshoe theory, they went so far left they ended up far right.

go raiders!

Parental support and structure. Asian kids without tiger parents don’t do as well.

It's so annoying. There is no shortcut to learning math. No secret strategies. It's just a straight up grind. It's such an insult to say we just have some strategy that makes us better and not hard work.

@@Bucky147 It's isn't simply laziness, it's method of application and pattern recognition. Some people are blind to patterns or trying some new. That's how you have "Souls" players bashing their head versus bosses for hours getting angry. Some people aren't lazy they just want to make sure their method works even if it is objective insanity. That's why math doesn't click for some people

@@tree12341 Some people don't need to grind though, and some people fail despite grinding.

I'm black as well however, generally speaking, there's a huge divide in how quickly blacks acclimate and learn math and other topics to the degree that other ethnic groups do. Unless there's some sort of data out there that you have access to that I don't. I'm not meaning just American blacks but well, everywhere. Unfortunately, predominately black/african communities/nations/countries lag behind in almost every metric.

I’m an Accounting and business analytics major who had to take Business stats 3 and do math on a daily basis idk how I’m going to survive 😊

@@ArisenMind couldn't this be due to culture/historical reasons rather than just race?

As long as you can stand my cracker ass teach me your ways oh enigmatic one!

@thehappyhuman no they don't stop lying

Wow Churchill was always so ahead of his time.

so true!

"No cap, fr fr" - Abraham Lincoln

"On God." -Sun Tzu

"Word." - Ghandi

Progs don't get that's a HUGE red flag to anyone not of their cult. The same with "equity". Once I hear that I can't take them serious. It's like dealing with a crazy religious nut who believes everything in the Bible or Quran.

Most Latinos aren't offended by Latinx. If anything the people trying to create a molehill out of gender neutral language care more about it than progressives.

@@meneither3834 "Latinx" isn't from the US. It's from queer activists in Latin America. The only thing that Americans do wrong is using it in spoken language when it was just meant to be a written shorthand.

Yeah that’s one of the nice things about CRT...the language is so specific that you can catch on quick to the angle they’re tryna pull

"Latinx" is colonialism.

I cant say i share ur experience but I always wondered how easy it would be to fit as many buzzwords as possible into a paper and get top marks because the staff are political hacks

⁠@@ThatOneGuyWhatsHisNameKind of like what Alan Sokal did back in the summer of 96.

I'm afraid that he's painfully aware of it when Destiny says to him how it looks, when he's reading those sentences, but it's like sunken cost fallacy, where he's invested so much time into this one bad textbook, where he's just grasping at any and everything he can find to justify why teachers should find this useful. He's trying to carefully walk the line of not making it racist, but he's not really coming up with any concrete examples where this could be applied. But fuck me, that algebra and learning mathematics linearly killed my brain... How the fuck is it so hard to understand that you can make use of a concept, before learning how you manipulate the elemts that this concept introduced. Geometry uses algebra, but you don't need to understand the more complex of manipulating algebraic equations, just to be able to switch around a few elements in geometric equations.

@@RS-fy9hb he's just trying to debate. He just picked a card and he's doing his best.

I honestly got the vibe that about halfway in he realised that the shit he was saying was no different to race realist stuff but emotionally he just felt it HAD to be different so he kept going lmao

This is why people should just stick to non-racism.

@@Vin_Venture896 I never knew the sunken cost fallacy could be applied to racist beliefs.

When wokes meet racists. Lol

The Ryan Long bit

@@eugenechege1621 ah you beat me to it

Watch "woke vs racist" on KZfaq. Funny video

@@Samael527 man im third -.-

I’m sorry but even white kids in America can’t calculate with apples. Take cheeseburgers or some food Americans actually know 😂😂

Pretty sure this was a teacher from everybody hates Chris

then Darius gets made fun of for understanding the math problem because learning is “behaving white”

@@deagle2yadome696this is actually one of the biggest problems in the ghetto black/hispanic community. Learning and speaking properly gets you made fun of for “acting white”

race != skin color

Nobody actually believes this…

For real

Wokeists aren’t Americans. They hate America.

This isn't something new unfortunately as this idiotic idea has been thrown around for years, the only difference is that now twitter and tiktok experts are talking about it openly.

Uhhh

As someone named Brandon I'm respectfully asking you to not use that meme

@@xXFluffers let's go!

@@xXFluffers SODA!!!

@@xXFluffers every woman named Karen has tried this and failed. It’s too late lol

"I'm a tremendously kind person, and since you're from a group or race that is known to be shit by default I'll let your shit performance slide". Sounds like a thinly veiled condescending power trip to me.

These people are so insulting yet they think they are being generous in a way.

holy fuck same😂 saying people of color like im some sort of alien specimen my god these phrases make me incredibly angry and i'm almost impossible to piss off

As a Christian conservative, the far left seems very racist to me. I can understand that we have a lot of differences in the way we engage the world due to the different cultures we're raised in, but that doesn't tie to our genetics or our skin color. That's such a backwards way of thinking. I'm so sad because people mostly don't treat other people who disagree with respect anymore.

“Hey blacks, the right thinks you are too represented, have too much power, control the world and are trying to kill the white race. The left thinks you are a retarded 5 year old child. Which do you pick as your ally?” I honestly think being seen as stronger than you are is better than being seen as weaker than a literal cockroach.

I feel the same way. I don't agree with him on everything but I agree with his approach and rationality, and his willingness to engage and challenge everyone regardless of their political leanings. I feel like his commentary is done in good faith, which is rare in the age of political content grifters and rage farmers. I have a lot of respect for him in that regard.

Dude is PRO-Puberty Blockers for Minor Children... Destiny is EXPRESSLY PRO-Child Abuse.

Pretty traditional conservative Catholic here and absolutely agree. I don’t agree with everything, but it’s always good to get intelligent points giving another perspective.

He let's other men bang his wife.

How can you be libertarian and right wing?

If you're REALLY a black, you obviously couldn't have written your comment. Do, youve been fact checked, and it appears youre pants are on fire!

So you didn't learn math by talking about drugs, pimpin' and gang warfare? My liberal college professor said that was how one connects with "the blats"

Supposed to be a smart guy. It's like a possession. I don't even understand what is arguing. about. Just remover the racist part out of the curriculum!!

You know, he might be just a Black Supremacist. Maybe the idea to teach the Black kids better & separately, so the "White" kids fall behind?

This is my personal definition of "woke"

​@@streamylcit seems the case that wokeness demands this kind of dogmatic belief. If any minority is under represented the answer is always bigotry.

Excellent Amala Ekpunobi quote. I use it all the time!

@Boris Cuduco Exactly.

@Boris Cuduco what is justice for someones relative getting lynched

@@boriscuduco so what's the solution?

@Boris Cuduco Yes, that was the question posed to you. If these people lynched your grandpa 50 years ago and are dead now, what’s your answer?

@@KJ-od8wq They're dead

and progressives will argue that was racist, and your father should have learned how to do that by using chicken bones to not racist.

At the school I work at we are usually not allowed to push students, because it "negatively impacts their emotional well-being." We then train students to retreat from problems by providing them a grab-bag of excuses. ("My mental health," "you're not the right race, so I can't relate to you," etc.)

It’s kind of frustrating that Destiny basically touched on almost all of the reasons why the disparities exist and the progressive guy still kept repeating the same line.

@@JohnDoe-kn7ex part of that seems like The Progressive doesn't understand the issue and has just been reading Twitter and Reddit threads.

Nooooooo that would mean peoples actions impact their outcomes.

So the problem is that people with poor parents and/or in poor neighborhoods don't have enough time to study, right? So let's work on reconstruction instead of getting caught up in this colourblind anti-woke nonsense? Or what do you think?

yeah but how can we expect students of color to do math homework that isn't basketball themed?

😂😂😂😂😂

Sometimes I wish my parents beat me more...

@@the_inquisitive_inquisitor don’t get me wrong. I turned out today because of what my parents did. I’ve learned that we all are growing and learning together. While my parents watched me grow up, I’ve also watched my parents grow and learn. They know now that the way we as their children treat them now is due to how we were raised. They know their mistakes. They can’t change them though. So while most of my siblings turned out great, the trauma and hatred and bitterness we held inside has been with us for the last 25+ years. You take the punches life gives you and you deal with them.

@@abdurrahmanqureshi3030 you’re probably baiting but whatever I’ll entertain you. Where does the origin of the abuse and bearings come from? What is the culture at home like? What is the language barrier like? There’s a lot of things that go into play for these situations. For most situations, refugee or immigrant Asian parents don’t care about athletics. They don’t care about student relationships inside and outside of school. All these things are pressures and abuse out on the child with the INTENT of only having smart or talented children that excel at certain topics. What’s the reason black children are being beaten? Is it due to neglect? Hatred? Anger for the spouse? Or anger for the lack of a spouse? All these things matter for the child to understand what the parent wants from them. With Asian parents their sole focus is if you don’t do well in school there will be consequences. I can’t speak from the black experience so I’m assuming the majority of black children beatings AREN’T because their parents want them to do really good in Math and Science.

I grew up in Minnesota with a lot of Hmong friends and classmates, this was in the 90s, so my Hmong friends were those that came from Laos, or the Thai refugee camps, knowing some English (a lot were put into special education classes because ESL in Minnesota wasn't really a thing until the later 2000s), but by no means fluent. The parents, no English. Met a lot of Chinese and Koreans in university, and have a lot of Japanese friends because of Karate. All of them echoed what you said. The focus on getting a PhD or medical degree, not because you actually want to study it, or help people, but solely because it provides social status, and potentially money. A funny story, my Thai ex was the black sheep of her family because she didn't have a PhD in chemistry/biology like her siblings, or a law degree. Only a college business degree, yet she ran a successful business over there for decades, owned lots of real estate, and made far more than myself (and I work in finance). Her parents, and her aunts/uncles didn't care that she was economically successful, in their eyes she was dumb and stupid because she didn't get an advanced degree.

I don't believe you. Teach me your math fu, liar. /s

They really should have given the trigger warning. Now that something has upset you, it means you have PTSD. In fact that upsets me, so I must have PTSD too!

As an engineer, you aren't qualified to speak about "all of math" (and as a working mathematician, neither am I), and what you said is completely absurd. Your coursework nor anything you do utilizes anything done in the last two centuries, and new math is produced every day. Stay in your lane; this isn't cute. Being able to produce any general characterization of "all of math" would take hundreds of lifetimes. I can't even begin to describe how absolutely insane your statement is.

@@EpicMathTime clearly I’m joking. My god, idk wtf kind of brain worm you have that makes you so triggered. I’m obviously not actually taking about all of math. But also, this discussion is about general education levels, so basically through high school. Nearly all concepts in math build upon each other. Please tell me what mathematical concepts don’t require some understanding of algebra. Obviously there are other more advanced concepts but algebra is basically the core of all mathematics

@@Randy_Shoeman You're right, I got way too triggered. I apologize. To answer your question, no, algebra is not at the core of all or most, or a significant portion mathematics in any sense, especially not "non-modern" algebra; the most general possible definition of "algebra" that I can apply is "anything involving a set equipped with binary operation(s)", which is extremely broad, but still doesn't approach "most." Mathematical topics tend to be linked, in that you can describe topological spaces through their association to their fundamental group (an algebraic notion) but this is a relationship of equals between the topological notion and the algebraic notion, and even so, this notion of algebra is not recognizable as "algebra" outside of people who study that particular thing. To answer your other question, someone could do point-set topology for a million lifetimes without ever knowing what algebra is. Someone could also do algebra and end up talking about fusion systems without running into topological notions (though fusion systems are strongly linked to number theory). It's just not something fundamental to math in general. I think that _set theory_ is something close to what we are getting at in terms of something that is seen in most of math, but still, I'm not sure how fundamental that is (many people play in other realms other than ZFC). As math is, ultimately, the study of logical consequence from a set of axioms, I don't think any mathematical objects or topics can be fundamental to mathematics itself, I think that the fundamentals of mathematics lie in logic, and as set theory is most foundational, the lines between logic and set theory are very blurry (consider that something like DeMorgan's Laws can be stated in terms of logic and set theory completely equivalently). In any case, algebra is lightyears away from fundamental. If set theory is machine code, then algebra is Mozilla Firefox. Category theory is also fundamental, but in a high level way that is on the opposite end of the machine code - it's like an "overview" of all of mathematics from the top down. I'm not really sure what analogy is suitable there. In any case - I don't really think that "all math" has a definition anyway. I think that's like talking about "all art." We could invent a completely new mathematical object right now, it's just that the chances are that it wouldn't be interesting enough to be noteworthy (rather like most art that is created). I'm sorry that I insulted you and that I responded like that. I didn't really read your tone properly, and I see that now.

@@Durzo1259reading this gave me ptsd.

Just ask these people "How", and the best you will get is a made up word, that by it's definition, excuses the illogical position. For example black police shoot black civilians higher than white police. How is this possible you ask them. They will say honorary whiteness. In their minds a made up word now covers up their contradictions.

Im so happy you have come to the light.

@ChadAF they reel you in with the I'm just trying to help. The leadership wax everything In the poor minority to the point where you don't need to think of course the black people can't afford a id. Of course minority can't learn math we need more funding to teach them to the point where whole schools fail exams

yeah dude same. i can’t believe i fell for this cringefest when i was 19. still politically on the left but i’m not some anti-capitalist wokelord anymore

I call myself progressive. People like that dude in the video I'd call regressive.

Youre a racist. Not being able to say, "black" when referring to a race is a dog whistle!

It must be progressive to be a racist.

It's even worse. Some vague variable not yet pin-pointed... Call it Race Nullsetism, neither real nor imaginary. Gonna add the CRT crowd officially to the list of performative dinguses that will try everything but the actual issue.

CRT is racist against white people, not PoC

@@edwuncleriii1922 The math thing seems to just be such a fat L it's useless all around honestly. Unless you just wanna go to school for fun, you need to be competitive mathematically in order to get a job in any profession that requires it.

I tried picturing Radical Coder's phenotype while watching this and then I checked his channel. Bullseye lol.

its painfully obvious he really actually believes black people are inferior and thus need special treatment but he can never say it, its disgusting, worse than any hardcore racist, because this guy and the thing he believes actually goes on to affect people through their "good intentions".

@@keithfilibeck2390 exactly, to me these type of people are worse than the actual outright racists. If your doing this type of thing and then pretend your not racist, convince yourself your not racist is just weird. It’s racism covered in sprinkles basically.

He honestly sounds more confused when he says his points than anything else. When Destiny brings up to him that what he is saying is racist, the guy seems genuinely confused, even overwhelmed. He had never really thought that hard about any of these ideas, he probably just has a social circle of people who keep repeating it and reinforcing it. This is not ONLY a problem with Progressives, mind you. It's a human nature thing.

@@Lupostehgreat right, I’m not claiming this stuff dosen’t happen to everyone but there comes to a point in an adult’s life when you make your own decisions and opinions. When you hear two different points you aren’t going to agree with a point just because it’s repeated a lot of times…your gonna agree because believe that true/a fact, he most likely agrees with it but has no other things to prove it or any actual point that will agree with his opinions. It seems like he’s confused but not confused to the point of him not knowing what he’s talking about. He knows what he’s talking about he just dosen’t have the research or the logic to make An argument it seems like. He’s a thirty year old, he must have enlugh maturity and logic to form an opinion even if it is absurd

@@_GFG_ I absolutely agree with you, but we're kind of the exception. The overwhelming number of people don't really think that much about their base values and deeply held beliefs. They know what feels right and they pursue things that give them more of a good feeling. This is why Trumpers will hypocritically switch sides on issues, back and forth, without a second thought. This is why hard left identity politics wokelets will back these hardcore racialist ideologies that seem to reinforce racist values rather than see others as individuals. This is why Red Pillers can go around, pursuing the very kind of women who make their lives more miserable and sad, without considering that if they actually practiced the family values they virtue signal, then they would just pursue sweet girls that aren't into the fast cars, big party lifestyles they like to embody. At the core of all of them, I think they just believe things that make them feel good. They may be otherwise intelligent in some ways, but in philosophy they could care less. Their beliefs just have to serve a function.

I didn’t know there were any white people left in Haiti

@@JohnM-sw4sc i know you’re trying to be racist

The sad truth that no one wants to acknowledge is that effort and discipline are the only tried and true methods in education.

@@user-lh4yp2lf2m Can't you? Is there something specifically about a math formula that prevents you from memorizing it?

@@user-lh4yp2lf2m Oh I misread your comment. I still think memorization will get you through most of the way.

@@user-lh4yp2lf2m but you can "memorize" math, math is made of rules and formulas, if they are memorized it is just filling in the gaps of information using those rules and formulas

@@sghost128 Math isn't memorized. Real world math isn't multiplication tables. Building an algorithm that takes input from satellite tracking and runs against projected course parameters based on wind speed, flight velocity, etc. and alerts govt agencies of a potential terrorist threat when a United Airlines Boeing goes off course isn't about memorizing formulas. Its about knowing how to use mathematical properties to symbolize real world relationships in meaningful applications.

Exactly

No they weren’t lol.

Can you blame them? Listening to this senseless babble of this radical coder guy is infuriating. The progressives in America are something else when they begin talking about race.

@M K Definitely not. You can look up right now the books Florida was banning. NPR was complaining that CRT, Queer Studies, and a whole lot of other random shot wasn't included in a Black History class. You're talking out your ass.

@@DaultonYoung No you just have the memory of a goldfish, the black history AP course is not even close to the first national CRT in schools debate.

Right, he was whining about Destiny not engaging with it and describing it in bad faith while being completely unable to produce a good example that shows why it's good

Right, it seems honest at least but his basic premise is: "I don't know/I'm not an expert/I didnt study this but I think the people who wrote this know the reason and even though I can't imagine a single good justification for ethnomathematics we should trust them" Blind faith ideology is extremism, by the way. Then by the end he admits not having answers bothers him, which is great that he knows he's ignorant, but at that point he needs to shut up and go look for the answers. The cognitive dissonance is deafening.

Coder didn't even show up with examples. He came to a debate, arguing from a particular standpoint and he didn't even bother to do the homework to have any examples ready to have a debate about. Destiny asked him a number of times to provide examples because the point he was asked to argue against was so vague, he couldn't even start to deconstruct what Radical Coder was saying, and Coder couldn't even come up with a concrete example for Destiny. Destiny literally had to make assumptions and use a ridiculous example from The Wire, of all things, to even start the debate in any meaningful manner.

Fucking this. Exactly

2 letter names always have the most enlightened comments

Let's go tell the employers that math is now taught differently and explain the differences. So this dude is setting up a world where black people will have spent time and money through taxes hoping their kids would be educated but this dingus and his buddies took the tax money and kneecapped your kids and fucked your family over. Oopsie daisies. I know for a fact this dude does not listen to anyone when talks, like actually listening to comprehend.

@@regarded9702 lol right

Yeah I think he called it "creative"? Which I guess you could somewhat apply to anything if you really try. So that's kinda meaningless unless you're comparing or against something else. So I wonder from him... compared to what? Which other school subjects are less "creative" than maths? I can't think of any myself.

Math is art though. You can draw a clock in different ways but you still draw a clock. Art is "subjective" but there's also objective ways for things in art.

You should rethink your example. Drawings of math doesn't make math subjective, it allows you to prove math in multiple ways. If you draw two pizzas you don't have four.@@madnessofvdub

@@madnessofvdub Lmao

The idea would be that at the highest level crafting a new mathematical theory has more to do with intuition and creativity than pure algebra and structured reasoning. Einstein didn't come up with relativity because he could make calculations in his head faster than anyone or because of merely formal training. He could because he saw reality in a way that was unlike everyone else, so the inspiration that sparks discovery in physics is not dissimilar from inspiration for a great artist. Problem is, that's an idiotic way to teach math. You don't get to change the rules if you don't know the rules, and math is learned with rigor first.

"The nuclear reactor rods need to be dipped in 5 fried chicken wings of liquid goddamnit!"

No worries, the new wave of engineers will come from places like Philippines and India, that are taught math properly.

@@spartansquid5931 ahahahahh

The idea that these black kids are going to be engineers and scientists….lol

we're not the right, these insane political ideas don't gain any traction unlike the ones on the right which always get greenlit all the way to the top level (including the president at one point.)

Because any answer he could give would ultimately boil down to innate differences and race realism, and he's afraid to say that. A Hotep or Black Separatist could, but a White Progressive isn't going to.

At the 44:30 mark you realize his whole issue is with kids moving into the next grade in math when they obviously shouldn’t. Which is a byproduct of schools just passing kids bc these same progressives pushed for it. At yo the mix it’s not a race issue but a class and social economic issue.

don't think, just say things that make you feel good

But the issue here isn't that real world application enhances learning. The issue is, what about this is racial? Does taking a kid shopping at home depot have some different effect on a black kid vs a white kid because of some inherent difference in white vs black kids? Do white kids not benefit from cooking? That's the logical outcome of what this book would be stating. Abstraction is hard, esp for kids. Making things approachable with a practical example benefits all of them. But there's no racial difference in the way the wording in this book argues. If 2 fruits + 2 fruits = 4 fruits; there's no inherent difference in outcome if the word problem Henry and Pradeep must answer if the fruits are apples vs mangoes.

Beautifully put!

Fair, but its also pretty stupid.

Fleshed out is the term you're looking for

Based. Bring back the dialectic.

It's got a high possibility if they keep thinking the same way.

Because the next time he goes to talk about it he’ll say the same shit he started with here and won’t have moved an inch. I don’t think this guy was coming in to this conversation to analyze his beliefs at all

The best argument you can make for these types of programs is just to point out how much kino cringe we'd get from students filming out of shape older white women walking into the class room with a boom box blasting "I LIKE TO MOVE IT MOVE IT!!!"

@@tjfreckles1995 Hell, he didn't even seem to understand what he was pushing, how did he know he believed this stuff while still learning about it by his own admission?

This is not a progressive thing. It's a human thing. People are rather ignorant of their shortcomings in general.

@@gemkid85 It's called groupthink, nobody wants to be the odd man out.

yeah, and the worst part is when you acuse them of doing so and they pull the ''well im not well equipped to have this discussion i only have a basic knowledje of this because of a seminar i was forced to atend'' as an excuse while they where previously ready to defend the idea to the death

I agree. They are dogmatic and so that dogma is put into text, writing, codified, then they try to reason their way to that dogma, and fail every time.

well said

Better get back to learning how to dance eh? Seriously do they not see how fucking racist that is?

let's not pretend like this is the average progressive view I'm not entirely convinced the whole textbook wasn't made by somebody on 4chan as a racist joke.

​@@reddillon8425 I agree that the average progressive have no idea about this stuff, they will probably defend it though, and its not fringe in pedagogy and education. Basically James Lindsay is mostly right and thats a problem.

@@reddillon8425 Well that's why 4chan stopped making those, because the left started doing it unironically. "Hey let's make liberals think the fucking 'ok' symbol is a racist dog whistle", and the left took that ball and ran. No reason to be hyperbolic about left wing racism since they've exceeded expectations.

When was the first time? Was it uploaded as a video?

Highly underrated observation.

Yeah. Its a poor people problem more than a racial thing. The issue is the discrepency in poor demographics. The issue is that its a nasty cycle where poor people are so far behind the curve to succeed that its hard to break it without some exceptional focus on it.

@@Voltroc add on top that changing a lot of these habits takes a heroic amount of self-criticism which verges on flat out self-hatred and you have bad habits taught to children who grow up and teach their own children the same bad habits, cycling on into eternity. While The Right has serious fucking problems with racism (they often represent the teacher who yells at the kid for not having the pencil, then kicking them out as they are not a serious student), The Left doesn't help said individuals by coddling them and saying "there, there, you cannot help it. It is your race that makes you this way. It was destiny for you to get kicked out, the system is just erected against you." Meanwhile, that Lefty would have done more good by just giving the kid the pencil when he gets to class, and helping the teacher give some extra attention to catch the kid up. Currently, The Left is just trying to teach The Right to not ever expect the kid to have a pencil, and pass him anyway.

The DSA has a big racism problems.

@@Voltroc It also doesn't help that teachers in general are incompetent, they get more money for not doing their job during a strike than they do for actual proficiency in their work, we should ban their unions.

That and poor families also tend to not value education, which severely hampers a child's learning potential.

Your wrong, what about the special lines that asians draw when doing multiplication or whatever? Checkmate racist.

Damn, that must have been quite soul destroying to witness. In my country we have some ethnic tensions, but when I was in elementary/middleschool (2001-2008) the teachers in my middle of nowhere Eastern European small town school at least attempted to teach the gypsy kids. From what I've seen gypsies in Eastern Europe are treated somewhat similarly to Blacks in the US. I specifically remember there was one kid who, in grade 5 (age 12), couldn't keep up with the class because he hadn't grasped multiplication. So when he did come to class the math teacher put him at the back of the class, gave him individualized problems and when she had some free time during the class went over to help him. There was an attempt, if nothing else. But from what I've heard the older kids like him got, the more teachers would give up on him and others. Because at grade 8 or 10 the catchup needed would take years.

@@ZealotOfSteal it really depends on the school. My kids go to an inner city magnet school in Chicago, and all students are pushed to succeed. It should be noted, that all the students in the school had parents who applied for them to get in, so the parents are very invested in their success. Although the kids are majority Hispanic and Black, with Whites and Asians making up the rest, my son's friends of all races went on to good schools. Granted--he was mostly friends with the nerds, but there were black "nerd" guys at his school who weren't bullied for being nerds. The boy with the highest reading score in his class was black. Not all Chicago schools are like this, but there are a number that are. You have to look for them.

@@carolynngockel3670 Honestly that's good to hear. The vast majority of stuff that goes international is negative, so it's good to hear there's at least some silver lining.

These people are so dumb thar they can't even argue their own niche topics properly

What part of this do you not like?

@@ronswanson1410 To do that you kind of need to know what factor influence a person the most. If you try to derive someone's lived experience through surface level attributes (skin, sex) and make those primary in the classroom, then you will end up missing what might go on underneath that impacts someone more (class, sexuality, function, social factors like 'my parents are beating me', very long travel time to school, language development etc).

I'm so progressive I want more. Divide every class based on race and mental illnesses

Asperger’s doesn’t clinically exist anymore. It’s all ASD now.

@@Goulash45 If I tell people I have ASD they either do not know what it means or get a false impression of me. I do not tell people about Asperger either unless it is relevant to a conversation, since I changed so much in 15 years that I would probably not get the diagnosis today.

Thats exactly how i felt when they sent me off to IEP rooms for certain subjects. It made me worry less about learning and more about being seen as normal.

Well, he says multliple times during the debate that there are things about the book that he doesn't like. Nice straw man, though.

@@homelander7742 I mean he isnt convincing one way or the other, he sounds like the biggest fucking caricature of a leftist without the right having to paint it.

@@homelander7742 he also says hes not well versed on the topic but still supports it cause trust the experts. so hes the useful one, that doesnt understand the matter but listens to the ppl who he claims to be experts who cant explain to state how it should work but he will go on championing that this will help without any info on how...

@@abdurrahmanqureshi3030 They statistically overall perform wayyyyy better than kids who aren't forced to study hard, so no, it's not a moot point

Forceful tiger-parents are not healthy for a child. That sort of pressure is a large part of what drives the high rates of suicide in East Asian countries.

@@user-gh1vc9kb4e oh I agree, I wasn’t arguing that it was good. Just that environments that encourages specific things will tend to do well in that certain thing.

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smoke signals? maybe that's what he meant by the colored peoples needs

Yeah, it's so cringe and soy to be against racism, right? 🙄 I'm all in favor of criticizing the left when it goes too far, but you sound like a 2015 anti-SJW right now.

the problem is that the truth is all baked in propaganda. its impossible to project anything reasonable when the conversation is "black kids are tortured and shot every single day and we must reform america" vs "tear your kids out of public education or they'll get trannied"

Even though James Lindsay has become a complete lunatic and reactionary on Twitter, I find his lectures on his "New Discourses" youtube channel pretty interesting, it goes deep on these progressive brainrot pseudo theories

I would qualify that it was him plus Helen Pluckrose and Peter Boghossian. Without them, however, Lindsay has gone off the deep end.

Lindsay, Pluckrose, and Boghossian were mostly true in their criticisms of Leftist academia, the problem is they tend to handle it with the same emotional incontinence that would compel them to call someone else a snowflake, especially Lindsay.

@@jamesmcmackin8773 See, I don't know about that one. Especially with regard to Pluckrose. I don't think she's that type of person at all. Boghossian, perhaps. But Lindsay has the monopoly on insanity among the three of them by far.

sounds like a hell hole maybe you should get her outta there.

@@tapejara1507 The only reason anyone ends up in Stockton is because they have nowhere else to go

@@woodsmand feelsbadman

Poor daughter

If you cared remotely about your daughter she wouldn’t be in that school. Instead you make empty statements about “systemic racism” to get head pats from strangers from the internet. Anything bad that happens to her whether it’s done by her or someone else is on you and your awful parenting.

"Progressive Software Engineer & Educator" actually means "progressive "educator" "

the software he develops will be slower for white people to dismantle their privilege 🤣

code monkey can't even write code so he slaps progressive label to sell himself better

I don’t believe his credentials, frankly. From what we can see on his Github, I can’t believe he’s a CS “educator”.

I am ashamed this person claims to share the same profession as me.

Sounds pretty dramatic...