I love that the quote that Kirioth used is one that Bricky used in his Every Faction Explained video but Bricky was right there with DK having no clue.

That’s actually amazing having Kirioth as a semi permanent member. He is such a cool guy and seeing him getting more attention through this is fantastic.

Bricky slowly realising that in britain we choose metric or imperial depending on the weather

*Eldrad has a big oofie* And then everyone goes on the biggest tangent ever. What a big oofie!

"WHEN YOU FIRE THIS WEAPON YOU ARE RUINING SOMONE'S DAY AT SOME TIME! YOU DO NOT EYE BALL IT!" -Mass effect ass chewing

Abaddon the Despoiler's 13th Black Crusade is about to begin. Lord Castellan Ursarkar E. Creed who forsaw this hides regiment after regiment behind a single tree. "Oh yeah everything's coming together."

I was there, the day Cadia stood. My Guardsmen took the field, holding off the horses of Chaos. Now, over a decade later, I am very glad the narrative has moved forward, but annoyed my contributions did so little.

Imagine your Cadia falling... ''lol'' says the Guard player ''lmao''

22:23 The children yearn for the mines! *The Lannd mines!* (The mines discovered by Arken Land, of course)

Haven't we had a couple Fall of Cadia episodes? Fuck it, Cadia stands!

18:48 Context for people not following Kirioth: When the infamous dice in the toilet story came out, Kirioth made the joke that everyone should be forced to lick their dice to prove they're not lead, then proceeded to spend I think an hour on-stream designing a T-shirt saying "I LICK MY DICE" which I believe you can still buy on his merch store.

On the skulls on the base, "he probably spent more money on kitbashing the base", it was actually a thing we did at a regional game store where you'd bring back your leftovers, especially heads and throw them into a box where people could ask the shopkeeper to grab a couple of enemy heads for their bases. this was sometime around the beginning of 4th edition iirc.

*Ursakar Creed hiding a whole Titan Legion behind a rock*

I remember posting my results for the 13th Black Crusade back in the day. I was an Emperor's Children player at the time and the state of the EC forums was a unanimous decision to do what we do best...ignore the actual battleplan and find a warzone to goon to death. I remember Inquisitor still being a thing at the time, especially important because of how closely tied it was to the then very new Eisenhorn books...and how the Cadian Pylons are basically all his fault. This was one of the last big hurrah's for converting miniatures as something GW actually promoted and encouraged. The great rift changed a great deal in the 40k setting but also marked a big change in the hobby and how GW approached 40k as a game...there's lots of change both good and bad from my grognards perspective.

Kirioth and Bricky talking about old balance in third edition brings me back. One of the only games I ever really played was like 750 points eldar vs 750 points space marines. I always got crushed, I only had hand me down Eldar stuff really, and I just could not deal with my friend's more elite space marine set up. We're playing a game, and he's really excited to just drop in his new terminators. I'm cringing as I know my howling banshees are going to get crushed by these guys. He's bragging about deep strike and how cool it is, pantomiming them warping in right in front of my charging banshees... Back then, you rolled scatter dice for people arriving via deep strike. And this time, he rolled snake eyes. Lost to the warp. The terminators never arrived. And in such a small point game... that's like a quarter or a third of his army just suddenly missing. Queue me and my brother and other people hanging out going nuts as my banshees proceed to carve up his devastator squad. I think that's the only game I ever won, but it still makes me grin like a fool.

Abbadon to Ursakar E. Creed: "Is that a Warhound Titan, or are you just happy to see me?"

To quote Mean Girls: "Stop trying to make people take Abbadon seriously, it is not going to happen".

So shy is jealous when she found out that Bricky is getting good with 3 vtubers. *Pats* there there shy

They did a similar thing for Warhammer Fantasy, where games dictated the narrative. Except GW threw a hissy fit when Chaos wasn't winning (cause GW didn't update their rules for that edition) and then proceeded to fudge the numbers and make it look like Chaos was winning, even though they were getting bodied by everyone. It's where the "Grimgor Ironhide, the biggest Fantasy Ork, snuck up behind Archaon the Everchosen (fantasy Abaddon) and kicked him in the balls right before Archaon won" meme came from.

I was there when Eldard died to stop the Blackstone fortress. Some of the stuff staying like the Eldar players conspiracy on message boards to not save Cadia and instead going to the Sentinel worlds bringing back a craft world from the eye of terror. So I don't mind changes

The tyranid players couldn't report games until a few weeks in, someone in the forums suggested we attack the Tau (they were new at the time) since the missions sucked. There were so many battle reports that they included it in the lore.

Man I remember this campaign. Two of my favorite memories were GW having written Battle Fleet Cadia as hopelessly out matched by the Black Fleet, so when the Cadian system basically got hard stomped by the navy...GW wrote it as BF Cadia taking Chaos style raiding tactics to an absurd degree and being significantly better at it than Chaos itself. The second was that a bunch of Guard players compiled a list of everyone's regiment name and number. It was a huge list of names with the occasional bit of fluff someone would write for their army. I wonder if anyone still has a copy of it somewhere.

I can’t believe that no mention was made about the tau having such a massive win rate in the event that the later lore had them expand massively while everyone was distracted and got themselves a named character. Farsight or shadowsun, I forget which in my old age

I'm not surprised Kirioth had officially joined Ad Ric. He's always made a great addition to the show, very much a "two tigers of the mountain" vibe between him and Bicky. Still happy to see it stamped in officialness.

I think the only person I've heard complain about the retcon was moreso complaining about how the Eldar were kinda removed from the victory. Iirc they managed to get some crone worlds back or something else critical to the situation that were retconned out of existence, essentially turning what was an Eldar victory into a net neutral if not a loss.

You dang whippersanppers! I was there for Codex Eye of Terror; I painted Underhive Militia for the Third War of Armageddon; My first Space Wolf army began with the list for Rogue Trader, just before they released 2nd Ed 40k. One day you too will have more silver in your beards, difficulty sitting and painting for long periods of time, or keeping up with rules updates that are more frequent than yearly! Otherwise great episode, keep up the good work guys and gal :P

Kirith is a HUGE bonus and a great addition to the AR team. You four are just amazing. You feel like my friends. Even though you are all still biomass.

Also, Robert Rath did reference at the beginning of "The Fall of Cadia" many the narrative events of the old campaign. 1) There is a second invasion after the Imperial Navy chases the Chaos fleet out of system, leaving the voidspace lightly defended.

They could probably do something similar to this again, but instead of using an honor system they could use data from game stores and tournaments to determine who is winning and losing the games. Also as for older folks that played 40K back in the day, an old friend of mine who used to play DnD when I still had a game store near me. He passed away during the pandemic at 68. He played Necrons back in the day, but stopped because the game wasn't very popular in our area so he didn't have anyone to regularly play with. Miss you Ray.

36:02 - Eldar may experience the Big Oofie. But they dread the Great Sucky Wucky

Hey, the same thing happened with Storm of Chaos for Warhammer Fantasy, leading into the End Times and AoS.

I'd love to see an episode about the history of 40k itself in terms of its beginning and differences between editions and out the game/lore evolved over the years.

The Point of the Eye of Terror was that all of the Rag tag unknown Custom Chapters and IG were beating feet to CAdia because Baby Horus was just dumping daemons on everything within conventional distance from Cadia.

16:34 Gencon 2016. I'm the one in the hat. We brought a warlord, 2 reavers, warhound, 10 knights, and 2 heresy forces with primarchs(Puterabo and Lorgar) to their apocalypse game. Was very one sided but man did people come look. Funniest moment, An'ggrath charge a Ta'unar and they proceed to spend the next 2 hours locked in combat without anything happening

Nostalgia kicking in! It's 04:30 in the morning, I'm getting ready for work to pay my mortgage, my baby wakes up and decides she needs a bottle and Bricky, DK and Kirioth have me remembering a time when me and my mates took our armies to school so we could go to the local GW store as soon as we got out so we could battle it out over the fate of Cadia. Simpler times...

Letsgoooooo The Planet unbroken because the Guard never broke!

Cadia walked so the imperial guard could run

As someone born during the original fall of Cadia it was super cool to see the elders talking about the ancient history.

I'm so glad Kirioth is finally got out of the walls but now looking at him the walls might be keeping something in besides of keeping something out

Oh my God Kirioth's character art is freaking incredible.

I love the addition of Kirioth, the chemistry has always been great when he's been on. It's great.

As someone who was around at the time, the problem in the games was similar to that of what GW did with End Times for Fantasy, forces of order were winning even the ground battles but GW wanted to make the narrative push that chaos won. So at the time they tossed out many games and ignored the results of the posted games to turn it into the "stalemate" which persisted. They did the same thing to an even worse degree when deciding the fate of Fantasy and Order absolutely wiped the floor with Chaos, but GW wanted the narrative to be for Chaos to destroy the world so they could make more appealing models, so they completely ignored the results instead of fudging the numbers. Kirioth mentioned it a bit that no matter what people were going to be upset especially if GW had a planned narrative push, and thats exactly what happened. This is why relying on the community for narrative changes is bad many times because GW writers absolutely love Chaos and have repeatedly stated that no matter the setting their victory is inevitable, which often conflicts with their own lore and events such as this.

Holy shit its quite shy havent seen her in years happy seeing her move on to better things never thought id see some of the og [game that shal not be named] creators while looking for some warhammer content

The defiler is perfect in every way I will always love it, I always forget the new demon engines exist.

And I thought the fall of reach was bad.

I remember KZfaq Groups being instrumental in how the Chaos players were organized. My current 10th Ed Chaos Army of Traitors and Cultists are named after Saint Josemane's Hope because GW blew up the planet took way too fast.

yo i adore the detail of the new logo, the right aquila being blind to the future to contrast the actual aquila being blind in the left/to the past is brilliant

What’s more terrifying than a space marine in 40k, a krieg soldier who has a reason to live.

i participated in it back then. my first army were crons. just a flood of ressurecting infantry. or the ever mean half table full of scarabs... i surprisingly mannaged to win alot with roughly 1200 points purely of scarabs.

This 13th black crusade campaign in 2003 was what got me into 40k for the first time as a kid, especially because that was when the plastic Cadians were first released. White Dwarf even released the rules to run the entire narrative campaign in a small setting among friends. Huge fan of the Gathering Storm storyline as well, especially how it was portrayed in the Battlefleet Gothic 2 computer game. Also credit that for bringing me back to 40k more recently in 2020

I initally thought they were going to talk about the Ursula Creed book where they went back to Cadia and found a master list of planets to make Cadia 2.0 that is now being worked on

From what i have heard second hand alot and i mean alot of old fans despised the changes with passion which does make sence as they also lived through the end times for fantasy

Slaanesh eats your soul and torments you for all eternity: Oofie Oopsie! Nurgle eats your soul: "fart" Uh Oh! Stinky!

What’s the difference between an 8ball of coke and a 4 year old? Eric Clapton would NEVER let an 8ball fall out of a 50 story window

WELCOME TO THE TEAM @Kirioth

Our local gw store had an apocalypse game towards the end of this event. There were about 16 people on a 14 foot table, throwing dice at each other. It was mental, and in the end the store counted destroyed models to decide which side won. All i remember is my 1000 points of tyranids (all i had at the time) were wiped out in two turns, except for the hive tyrant that was harassing people, and my younger brother who didnt bring an army got to control a warhound. I was so jealous.

This was Peak 40k, and GW in general back in the day, and it's been...not downhill, but god is it ever a different company now.

14:33 no bricky, the lost and the damned is not the same as the legion of the damned It was basically generic non space marine chaos, like traitor guard and cultists

I am so happy that kirioth is now officially part of the crew

I quit BFG during that campaign. Worked a Tyrant and a Dominator point blank against a Chaos battle squadron. With lock-on and modifiers, I had several dozen dice to roll. First round my highest roll was one 4. On my reroll I switched ALL my dice and still only topped out with a single 3. I stood up and went home.

Me and my mates took part in this. I was (am) a shovel boy, AJ was (standard) Space wolves, DB was CSM and Goatie was eldar, who wound up fighting CSM. I gave my artillery section to KT who didn’t have an army. 5,000 points on each side on an 8x16 foot table we set up in DB’s lounge to play on over a long weekend. AJ’s rhino of baby wolves was blown to pieces in the first round leaving only 3 scouts boys. KT caught a gang of eldar on foot in the open with three basilisks which caused a great argument over how artillery worked, so with only one hit from them I hit him with all three of my mortars, which wiped them out. The whole game I only moved three units - my Sentinel squad - as bait to get troops in range of 40 guard and 20 catachans. That worked for a whole one turn before my boys were wiped and whittled down to four guards, three commissars and the mortars. It was great fun and I’d love to do something like that again. All told we sent our results in which was kind of redundant as it ended in a draw, but it was a perfect weekend with the boys!

Interesting 👀 no months of shame?

Well Bricky, DK, Shy, and Kirioth I was there when the first 13th Black Crusade happened. I have played Tyranids since 3rd edition so I really did not bother with participating. I did ut follow it and it was meat. I was 37 at the time so 58 now. I still live independently with my wife so NOT all of us are in the old folks home.....yet. Swarmlord Cranford

For 40k adjacent movies, the best depitcion of a Bolter in a movie: Showtime (Eddy Murphy film)

Yo I can’t tell you how excited I am about you guys bringing kirioth on even if it’s just 12 episodes for the year, every episode he’s been in has been my favorites, theres just something about the way he explains stuff that I enjoy (not that I don’t enjoy bricky or anyone else)

OMG 5'11" crew! I had the exact same thing where I had gone around for my entire life telling people I was 6 foot, having 6 foot on my drivers license...then I went to the doctor one time and they measured me and mentioned it in centimeters or whatever and I asked what it was in freedom units and it was below 6 foot. I was actually devastated for like a week. Half the time I just tell people I'm 5'8" now 'cause 5'11" might as well be. And it's funny to tell some who is really 5'8" that you're also 5'8" but also three inches taller than them.

I love that Kirioth is gonna be around more, you guys are great together🎉

Cool new kirioth model

Little 12 year old me took part in the campaign, and it took me a LONG time to get over the retcon. That was the thing that really cemented me in the hobby, the fact that me, as a kid, got to take part in forging the Canon of the game, on the whims of my dice rolls, was a big deal for me, I can live with it now, but there's still a part of me that wishes they had worked around the ending of 13th black crusade, maybe say have one of the big chaos lords arrive to break the deadlock on cadia, causing a second siege of the world, which can then kick-start the retcon events.

Holy hell I remember reading a batrep in White Dwarf about this way back when it happened. I was completely new to the game at the time and that campaign and the creativity of everyone involved (I remember there was a whole section of the article dedicated to the Abbadon kitbash they used in the batrep) is one of the reasons I fell in love with Warhammer.

I remember that event. I was in high school and had a 1500 point chaos army.

Chaos chads being even more organized than imperium is peak 40k

Y'know, if everytime Kirioth comes back and talks about GW and 40k's history, i'd like to see him talk about Malal, the non-existant fifth god of Chaos.

'Lost vs Legion' is valid, the one that always gets me is 'Deathguard vs Deathwatch'.

Movies that would be 40K-ish: Event Horizon Rebel Moon The various Dune incarnations The Riddick Series Dredd Starship Troopers Doomsday Screamers Soldier Mutant Chronicles Pandorum The Void Blade Runner Ghosts of Mars The Captain Harlock animes Battle Angel Alitta Immortal Casshern THX 1138 Cyber City Oedo 808 Brazil ... Can anyone think of any others?

"Mum, make Dad tell the story [of Cadia] right!" - Remembrancer L. Simpson [Circa 40k]

Yessss more kirioth on a regular basis! His episodes of adric are my absolute favorites

I was born when the original Fall of Cadia happened. I started playing 40K when Gathering Storm was coming out.

4:00 The codex redicuous supports this course of action.

Battletech does this for big plot moments with players. It's actually how a specific type of LRM ammo got banned because it was INSANELY too good and abused by players in it's original form.

I was just thinking what a joy it is every time Kirioth is on the show and how awesome it would be to have a more often! This is the BEEEEST!!!!

YAY Kirioth!!! Sorry fangirling here XD The three of them are funny as hell loll.

That campaign was incredible ! At a time when internet was not everywhere, no smartphones, no KZfaq... I was the only one to have an access for my club and friends. The website was futuristic with flash animations. You should also reports your games to your local GW. You could use Warhammer 40000 Apocalypse rules too for bigger battles ! It was the last World Campaign after "The 3rd War for Armageddon" and the fantasy battle "Campaign of Albion"

I love Kirioth’s episodes. Things just get so chaotic and cursed. It’s just fantastic.

44:28 How is that guy not a World Eater?... oh wait, he's probably from a successor of Khorne's favorite legion.

I was there,i played in the great war. I still have my lucky 13 patch. I used the lost and the damned ruleset to play my 3rd edition genestealer cult

This was such a fun episode to listen to. Kirioth really adds so much to the group, and I'm really excited to see him again next month.

Devastation of Baal when?

that eye of terror codex has some badass art

Having kirioth on a more permanent basis is fantastic to hear.

I like how Matara is now part of the channel lore. Bricky is never gonna put down the dommymommy allegations

So happy to hear Kirioth will be joining more often! =D

I was 9 years old at the time and I remember fighting both the battlefleet gothic parts... and the field battle. In the field battle I ran eldar at the time and I had a ton of fun. my brother and my dad all played at the LGS. We had some really good times. but at the time one has to point out that 3rd or 3.5 was known as hero hammer, so some had just an army of just a daemon prince. And chaos was entirely broken to face. So it was very hard to kill a chaos player cause they would just plop down their daemon prince and you'd watch your whole army die. Good Ole 3rd. 4th edition had a similar problem. I wasn't too miffed about them changing the lore along with my dad. But my brother a space wolf player hated what they did to the wulfen and the 13th Company.

I have recently found and subscribed to your channel and finally got to this episode and it is my favorite @Kirioth appearance and art.

This is kind of like some of the older Battletech convention events where the tournament finals decided a lore event, which also introduced the Nuclear armed Urbanmech-ArrowIV.

There are actually a lot of references to the 2003 campaign in the Battlefleet Gothic 2 game, which is set in the Cadian sector right after the Gathering Storm. There’s mention of Abaddon’s rampage on Xersia or the plague of unbelief by Typhus and the dark angels secret campaigns around Caliban

Froot does have some streams and stuff that is less wholesome like her main 3D model for vrchat and the like. As well as being a good friend by helping a friend who streams on a different site with artistic renditions of the adult toys that friend uses.

🩷Kirioth, good to see a player that started with 3rd edition join the crew. I remember playing games in that campaign with my space marines, and my love for the hyper-flexible Chaos Codex of the time is still strong. 😊😊

No matter how powerful Chaos is...CADIA STANDS! CADIA LIVES!!

Eldrad was like "My soul was eaten by She Who Thirsts. This is sure to affect trout population."