You NEED a Midpipe if You Drive a Mazda RX8

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6 жыл бұрын

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Here is a quick list I made of pros and cons of a midpipe (cat delete), and why I think it is a MUST HAVE for an rx8.

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@Tart0p0mme78 6 жыл бұрын

I just buy an RX8 Evolve thanks to your videos ! I dont want to modify it a lot like you, but i may install a mid pipe one day !

@yourefriendlyneighborhoodbuddy 6 жыл бұрын

That's why I love FL NO EMISSIONS DO WHAT YOU LIKE

@skylerbond56 5 жыл бұрын

Washington isn't doing then anymore as of 2020! So Rotary owner here are stoked!

@Zero-ks3pc 6 жыл бұрын

Sounds a bit too loud for me, but don't think there is too much that can be done; I've driven a rotary without a cat back before and it was pretty loud. Also bought a CRX that I didn't take on the highway first, and it was quite loud and droned, but it was also geared terrible and ran something like 4 or 5k rpm at those speeds :p My exhaust plan is RB header, BHR resonated midpipe with catalyst (depending on the regulations when purchased), and the RB Rev8 cat back. From what I've researched, it will give me the least sound increased with a deeper tone. I think at current prices it will run around $2000. Need to do BHR ignition and some other stuff first, 26k miles, so that 30k maintenance stuff approaching soon, exhaust will have to wait

@eze12313 6 жыл бұрын

Is there any links for what kind of parts he used I want mine to sound like this

@PUBGMobile-ot2sk 4 жыл бұрын

Finally a video explaining this better

@jspvisuals4019 3 жыл бұрын

your vids are helping me so much

@Supernickcherry 6 жыл бұрын

I just bought a BHR Midpipe without a cat. Still waiting for it to ship in though. At first I was kinda worried about the smell but now I don’t think that it’ll be that bad. Keep up the RX8 videos!

@blackhaloracingCharles 6 жыл бұрын

Nick Cherry Keep us posted!

@J.mz00 2 жыл бұрын

Mate how was the smell?

@Supernickcherry 2 жыл бұрын

@@J.mz00 honestly, minimal and basically unnoticeable for me. Best midepipe there is for an RX8! Makes exhaust sound a little deeper and not too much louder over stock. I had mine still connected to the factory catback muffler. I recommend picking one up.

@J.mz00 2 жыл бұрын

@@Supernickcherry what do you think of going catless with the bhr midpipe?

@Supernickcherry 2 жыл бұрын

@@J.mz00 it’s the best way to go to keep your engine happy and healthy, sounds a little better and will last basically forever

@chiefzaydoe1466 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome I just purchased a 08 rx8 gt wat would you recommend for the best exhaust I don’t mind something loud & also would like exhaust crackle/ bangs… also any maintenance tips? Awesome video btw.

@michaelm.1576 6 жыл бұрын

Where did you buy those cool halo light rings from?

@Carboniotecable 3 жыл бұрын

Hi, to have a loud/lower sound, better with resonator or without? Thanks

@jonathancanizales9130 6 жыл бұрын

Bhr Midpipe or Rb midpipe? Really unsure🤔

@Dainci 9 ай бұрын

Important thing: if you just pit midpipe withiut changing muffler it will barely shot flames. Rear muffler is very restrictive, there are many topics about it on forums

@Cbrmansc77 4 жыл бұрын

Cool car and a cool guy!!! Peace and love always from your neighbor state MD!!

@sundin2799 Жыл бұрын

Does it make the car run lean with the CEL P2096 ?? I’m trying to figure out if the catless pipe is the reason for this code or note. My car is misfiring at high rpm and running weird and i have no idea why. Yes I’ve checked pretty much everything!

@k1ller31 6 жыл бұрын

Link for setup?

@jaycool5978 Жыл бұрын

Actually u can get a decat, which will take the O2 sensor. It looks like an acutal Cat but it's just an empty box

@GruntpocalypseGaming 6 жыл бұрын

I dont know if its me but the car doesnt like to be left im idle she gets moody on low revs

@Grayson203 2 жыл бұрын

I know I'm super super late to the party, but do you still make or have any cooling relays left over?

@aimanakaostonpunyachannel7470 3 жыл бұрын

Midpipe just similiar with decat right?ive decat my rx8..the sound dammnnnn..but the emission is too damn high

@m4d_al3x 6 жыл бұрын

it kinda sucks that in germany they prohibit a car ever from driving on public roads if they catch you without a kat.

@jaceknox2590 4 жыл бұрын

Where did u buy your midpipe at

@albertmac2556 3 жыл бұрын

ECU tune? Whered you get that done at

@IzaHalfbreed 6 жыл бұрын

What front lip is that

@rafaelalvarez6240 6 жыл бұрын

DUDE YOURE IN PA!! LETS MEET! WOULD LOVE TO CHECK OUT YOUR RX* AND GET SOME TIPS FOR MINE!

@WhySoGood 6 жыл бұрын

I've recently just took off my catalytic converter wanting to gut it... But turns out it was already gutted and the 8 wasn't even loud. Any idea what's up with that? Cheers

@nateflick1819 6 жыл бұрын

WhySoGood I have a 2010 rx8 and it is Str8 piped to dual greedy the noise is deafening behind the car...... literally guy jumps out of the passenger side of a BMW behind me at a red light runs up to ask how I don't go deaf driving the dam thing I laughed and replied I'm not behind it bro

@WhySoGood 6 жыл бұрын

+nate flick dang im jealous haha. Guess i need an aftermarket exhaust

@nateflick1819 6 жыл бұрын

WhySoGood I would keep it gutted and installed the noise level is offensive once u Str8 pipe it but if ya don't mind the noise .....at 70 80 mile an hour it buzzes along

@TheDevilZii 6 жыл бұрын

How many miles are on your RX-8? I'm looking to buy one and I'm not too sure what mileage I should be looking for.

@JapandaTuning 6 жыл бұрын

I got 81k on it now. Rebuilt the engine at 70k though

@blackhaloracingCharles 6 жыл бұрын

Zev It's all about how well it was taken care of.

@shadowdriftstl4 5 жыл бұрын

mines has 117k odo but engine has 45k on it

@pms0407 3 жыл бұрын

My 05 is at 76k..absolutely zero issues

@chriscollins658 4 жыл бұрын

I want this car i have only owned a camry and went crazy on a g35 sedan

@sendit954 6 жыл бұрын

Please put some on amazon

@NateRist 5 жыл бұрын

BHR ftw! racing beat is great, but the BHR midpipe's resonator uses a swirly piece of metal welded into it whereas racing beat uses steel wool

@felixwankel3989 Жыл бұрын

BHR is never in stock

@brycedavis6894 5 жыл бұрын

What type of mid pipe did you use? Can you use your stock mufflers to shoot flames?

@stevencherry7554 4 жыл бұрын

I can. Hold the rpms around 7grand for a sec. let it drop and hit it again it should double pop and let one about 6 inches.

@dang9269 2 жыл бұрын

Aftermarket exhaust?

@johnnysins511 2 жыл бұрын

what rims are those???

@beqa16v 6 жыл бұрын

nice sound. What is the MPG on that car? cant get reliable info

@shadowdriftstl4 5 жыл бұрын

sorry for late reply but the mpg will always vary due to people driving differently but driving normal u may get 15mpg city and around 21hwy. if u decide to drive tf out of her then you will be looking at 8mpg everywhere XD

@shadowzone2013 6 жыл бұрын

Is there a specific way to get it to shoot flames? Or does it just happen when you're driving?

@JapandaTuning 6 жыл бұрын

Between gear shifts, or just revving in neutral. Premixing helps a lot too and you gotta wait until the exhaust heats up

@luisgarcia288 6 жыл бұрын

rev it to 8k let it drop to 4k rpm and as soon as it hits it then step on the throttle. i have a mid pipe and it sounds like a gun shot ( exhaust has to be hot tho)

@davidedgar7338 11 ай бұрын

Top revs, it fuels a lot. And adds oil at max flow from omp. When you get the revs up. Float fast at high revs. Dip quick then floor to catch the bang. It's caused by ignition being cut while fuel and oil injected. Oil has a real low octane rating. It ignites it's hot vapour in contact with fresh air charge lighting any fuel present in exhaust flow. You see there is a pattern to when you ignite it. 😂

@JDUBZisYAHWEH 6 жыл бұрын

Would decat my 8 if my dumbass government didnt require emissions testing every two years.

@sweetlowfatjesus9663 5 жыл бұрын

Every year in texas ;/

@TopiasSalakka 4 жыл бұрын

Rotaries are exempt from emissions testing where i live, i think lots of rotary owners decat over here.

@cloud_0_ 5 күн бұрын

Just swap back for the OEM cat when it comes to testing? We have them yearly in the UK and that's what I do

@rasmusandersen2007 6 жыл бұрын

Hey mate.. Nice car.. Did you ever try google "How to clear nvram rx8" ? I hope this is not the answer to your japanese tune 1. Turn ignition switch to "ON" position, but do not start engine. 2. Pump the brake pedal at least 20 times within 8 seconds after the ignition switch is turned ON.

@chrislg4519 4 жыл бұрын

Hi what is Nvram? Do u mean engine light? Thanks

@eliasnychtas5021 6 жыл бұрын

argh the Sound.... but good job with the vid itself

@1991june 6 жыл бұрын

I wrecked my rx8 slide it into a post these cars are very tempting careful

@krASHExxx 6 жыл бұрын

Passed Emissions in MO with no Cat or Air pump... hmmm.... spark plug non-foulers... accessport ...

@AlikaSEOULROK 6 жыл бұрын

Wait wait wait.... they send a "device" that tunes the car for you???? Im getting the bhr ignitiion system decat mid-pipe, and I am premixing. I reallly want to tune it but i don't have anyone on my island that I know of that does Rotary tuning (specifically mazda maniac). I always assumed it had to be human interactive.

@blackhaloracingCharles 6 жыл бұрын

A Stricker Shoot is an email if you need. charles@blackhaloracing.com

@benstevenz 5 жыл бұрын

Is there any benefits from an actual mid pipe than just straight pipe. Both are cat deletes yes

@shadowdriftstl4 5 жыл бұрын

I have heard straight pipe drops HP gains due to lack of back pressure while mid pipe retains or even gains HP due to keeping or increasing that pressure.

@fletcher_poll8152 3 жыл бұрын

@@shadowdriftstl4 back pressure is a myth

@screwedupcivic2285 6 жыл бұрын

what brand mid pipe did you get?

@petercullen787 3 жыл бұрын

For example I got one by Turboworks. But to be honest it's insanely loud. On the other hand, the car behaves much better and surprisingly somehow I have lower gas mileage and as Japanda said much better throttle response.

@yangzixiang6605 3 жыл бұрын

link doesnt work!!

@Kamal-sj7it 6 жыл бұрын

What do you do about the obd2 code p0420?

@O_sii 6 жыл бұрын

All I heard was for a p420 was something to do with the cat or when you change or mess with the cat. And the O2 just change the spark plug.

@authorzoot241 6 жыл бұрын

Where did you get your green lights from ?

@shadowdriftstl4 5 жыл бұрын

I think he got them from ebay

@Drivenbymadness 6 жыл бұрын

Great video! So far, i love my Rx8's mid pipe :) I have a de-cat midpipe install video on my channel if anyone is interested 👌 The smell is kind of annoying, because your clothes and car interior absorb the smell a bit, but once you're used to it, it's all good...not healthy, but petrol heads will smell you coming :P

@adrxanruxz8493 5 жыл бұрын

My car has a specific smell 😭 always gets all over my clothes

@Dmnxx 6 жыл бұрын

Hey how many miles on ur gorgeous rx8 man. In the market for a clean rx8 (2nd one) found one with 120k kind of scared due to how many miles it has. And it's original motor. Any thoughts.

@onepumped7797 6 жыл бұрын

King0f_kingZ did you end up buying it ?

@biigsmokee 6 жыл бұрын

One Pumped Hope not, if he did he definitely replaced engine by now

@onepumped7797 6 жыл бұрын

vKyrie YeA prob

@jamesonslow 6 жыл бұрын

My dad has a real Mazda RX-8 and I have a model Mazda RX-8😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃

@Egon1982 6 жыл бұрын

James Onslow you need rich daddy then so you will have real rx8 and daddy porsche like japanda ;)

@gx6773 6 жыл бұрын

James Onslow cute!

@andrewciliberto168 6 жыл бұрын

Black Halo Racing makes an excellent pipe is about 500$ but its the best one around. Paired with turboXS catback and ur golden.

@josephesposito70 6 жыл бұрын

Andrew's World what is so good about the bhr midpipe compared to say racingbeats or turboxs which is $150.

@VisionQuest057 6 жыл бұрын

Seconded - their excellent non-obstructive resonator regulates out the raspy sound that the Racing Beat (catless _and_ resonatorless) race pipe used to make. It sounds smooth and aggressive with my GReddy SP cat-back (see my videos).

@nickoli9889 6 жыл бұрын

Joseph Esposito also a turboxs midpipe only will directly bolt to the turboxs catback. Of course, you can always modify the midpipe, but it is also substantially louder than the BHR unit

@blackhaloracingCharles 6 жыл бұрын

We've tried many resonators and ours never melts. You'll never need another.

@armandoponce170 6 жыл бұрын

I got bhr midpipe and racing beat catback exhaust 👌😉

@oscarmedrano2662 5 жыл бұрын

Can I premix I don’t have cats

@skylerbond56 5 жыл бұрын

He said you can

@ChrisTrick 6 жыл бұрын

Mine smells like barn where animals poop, to the point I get embarrassed (kinda, not really) when I’m at a red light

@jacobmull5125 6 жыл бұрын

Hey man, I'm looking at getting a rx8 for about 4 or 5k...my only concern is all the tlc i hear these things need. It'd be my every day drive.

@shadowdriftstl4 5 жыл бұрын

late reply but its a fun car and the tlc u hear about is 100% correct lol she is high maintenance but enjoyable at the same time.

@skylerbond56 5 жыл бұрын

I got mine for 4k with 79k miles on it. She runs great, but I need to clear the cat as it's clogged. Anything that has 100k miles and hasn't been rebuilt I'd pass on.

@alexforreal2905 6 жыл бұрын

I live in the United States and have never even heard of emissions is it even a thing in the US?

@elijahlawrence8010 6 жыл бұрын

Alex Forreal yes every year or every other depending on your state. Its required to stay registered on the road

@-slurmdaddy-8147 6 жыл бұрын

Alex Forreal Not every town has emission ordinances. I went catless on my car for that reason, and for the flames hehe

@alexgilland2269 6 жыл бұрын

If your OMP is working like it should be, premixing isnt doing anything extra for you besides putting extra oil in the housings for the engine to not burn properly. That's why it kills cats. You're doing premixing wrong. If you want to premix, block off your OMP. My decision has been to convert to a SOHN oil adapter and run a separate reservoir and let the device that meters the oil do its job with 2 stroke oil. The reason premixing kills cats is because there's excess oil in the rotor housings getting shoved out your exhaust ports. The oil metering pump is designed to prevent this..........

@mischiefpwns 6 жыл бұрын

Alex Gilland Problem is on the older 8's there was a lack of lubrication to the middle of the rotor housing. Good idea to premix if you have an 04.

@chrislg4519 4 жыл бұрын

I have a 2004 Rx8, but dont know if i have an OMP. My Cat has never been taken out & car never premixed. Should i premix just a little (2-4 oz per gallon fuel) to lubricate Apex seals?

@She1lby 2 жыл бұрын

You can't make conclusions like this, even Mazda can't tell this for sure, lol. Adding some premix could be beneficial for 2nd series as well, at least in theory. Will it lower lifespan of a cat? probably by a small margin, the biggest killer of the cat is fuel and overheat...

@Couskous 6 жыл бұрын

why not just straight pipe it?

@andrewhopson4515 6 жыл бұрын

To paraphrase a post on RX8Club, "A straight piped rotary engine is a beautiful thing to hear...from a distance...WITH EARPLUGS". The thing is so fucking raspy and piercing when straight piped. You won't get very far driving one because you'll have all kinds of cops on your ass the second you floor it.

@Rnfjaydee 4 жыл бұрын

if u do straight pipe it just do muffler and back DO NOT I REPEAT DO NOT REMOVE the resonator it will be so damn loud!

@CycloneDude1111 5 жыл бұрын

I would do a mid pipe but Colorado emission regulations suck ASS

@Hermiwalle 6 жыл бұрын

where is the fucking gokart

@Internetgamer420 4 жыл бұрын

Canada got rid of E testing so that nice

@JAYJAY1787 4 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately this needs to be tuned!

@pmm4177 6 жыл бұрын

You do know that the renesis rotary has all the power that it can make from the factory without adding boost or nos. Adding an aftermarket intake or exhaust can actually harm the performance.

@IHadToMakeThisAccount 2 жыл бұрын

Lol according to who lmfao

@nfncgxld4294 Жыл бұрын

Slingshot guy probably said the same about your RX8 😂

@HarleyN93 6 жыл бұрын

i just cant believe you unless you show dyno results the rx8 is highly tuned and according to the rx8 owners club you get very minor gains changing anything

@shadowdriftstl4 5 жыл бұрын

from what I have seen most n/a 8s make around 212-224whp heavily modded so yea the gains are small at best but with the light weight of the car it can still keep up with or pass some cars in higher classes and it damn near out corners jesus aswell

@coryfoxii 6 жыл бұрын

Where can I order a mid pipe for my rx8?

@MsQueball24 5 жыл бұрын

Mr. Nice Guy I got a mechanic to make one up for me

@Tirethief302 4 жыл бұрын

The internet

@ConcussedGaming 5 жыл бұрын

And mines dumping the junk rotary.....yay more scrap laying around the shop.....

@wolfyhalfmoon819 6 жыл бұрын

Too bad I live in a state that will impound your car for not having a cat...

@aarronemmons976 4 жыл бұрын

California you have to have a cat converter! Law!

@azuro1637 4 жыл бұрын

so?

@mendezmarcos38 6 жыл бұрын

I don't NEED a midpipe 😒

@MothManLives 4 жыл бұрын

Removing the cat alone will not provide any power gains.

@jaynosowsky9708 4 жыл бұрын

Bull crap! Yes you will!

@MothManLives 4 жыл бұрын

@@jaynosowsky9708 you have to increase fuel and air to gain power. Removing the cat does neither.

@jaynosowsky9708 4 жыл бұрын

@@MothManLives but it does decrease back pressure!!! Why do you think you gain 10 hp with a catback exhaust.....think if there was no cat at all.

@MothManLives 4 жыл бұрын

@@jaynosowsky9708 only if the exhaust poses a restriction at wot. Wot gives the motor the maximum fuel and air. So the gains are from increasing the engines ability to move more fuel and air. Not all exhausts cause a restriction at wot. This is all basic stuff. Just look it up.

@jaynosowsky9708 4 жыл бұрын

@@MothManLives been a auto tech for 30 years and a college degree in automotive technology....I don't need to look it up. I built so many cars....you remove the cats and put it on a dyno ....guess what more hp and torque...that is a fact!!!!!! That's without a tune!!!!!

@goodfela420 6 жыл бұрын

u shouldnt have a code due to midpipe if u did it right

@juggnautbitch 6 жыл бұрын

Only way to do it "right" is to turn off the rear 02 with a cobb ap. The ecu in the rx8 does a self test on the rear 02 and checks for a preset value return. If the 02 sensor is disconnected, removed partially from the exhaust flow with a 90 degree adapter, or if it senses higher emissions due to a decat situation it will not send back the results the ecu is expecting from a functional 02 and will throw a code.

@phenomkrumper Жыл бұрын

Too much lip lickin'. Carmex no?

@connivingkhajiit 6 жыл бұрын

Just cherry bomb it

@PepeDaily 6 жыл бұрын

I mean for track use only, it would be cool. But for daily driving... no. Reason for that is because you'll release toxic chemicals that the cat would normally remove once the smoke escape the exhaust. You're exposing this to the environment and people.

@JapandaTuning 6 жыл бұрын

Yeah well I only drive this car 5000 miles a year so it's legal

@75thTheDude 6 жыл бұрын

here in germany removing the cat and replacing it by a "midpipe" leads to no insurance when u crash even if u pay for it. 1200€ if u get caught and u can say good bye to ur drivers license quiet a long time. i did it on my rx8, but changed back to normal after 2 months because of the toxicity and the smell.

@josephesposito70 6 жыл бұрын

Japanda Tuning which midpipe did u get racingbeat? What about header? I m trying to decide racingbeat has always been good but the price. I was looking into turboxs catback race mid pipe and garageline headers. $950 shipped. Where as the racingbeat is $1600 not shipped too.

@JapandaTuning 6 жыл бұрын

I recommend just being patient and waiting for a deal used on ebay or local craigslist, that's what I did. I got the midpipe and catback from craigslist for around $800

@josephesposito70 6 жыл бұрын

Japanda Tuning so u definitely think racingbeat is best.

@tiborklein5349 6 жыл бұрын

I can't wrap my head around the idea of installing illegal mods on a car. Especially for a daily driver. I'd rather keep my license plate.

@-slurmdaddy-8147 6 жыл бұрын

Tibor Klein Don't think you lose your plates less you just a complete idiot lol but if that's gonna hold you back from having fun car so be it

@jonanderson2742 6 жыл бұрын

Lol my gto has catless mids and longtube headers its ridiculously loud and i love it havent gotten any tickets.

@pnice350z2 6 жыл бұрын

He sounds like someone grandma. Return your rx8 if u have one and get yourself Prius. The upside on that, you will save money on gas.

@juggnautbitch 6 жыл бұрын

not everyone lives in an emissions state,

@NoName-zi3yb 6 жыл бұрын

The worst thing you would get would probably be a 50$ fix-it ticket

@brettfrancis1527 3 жыл бұрын

I hate to inform you all but your only going to gain about 3 HP. Thats it. This kid is trying but doesnt know much about cars.

@joshuamoss9056 6 жыл бұрын

Why are rx8 owners retared. Lol

@skylerbond56 5 жыл бұрын

How so? I see more idiots driving BRZs, integras, and Civics.

@RyuusanFT86 Жыл бұрын

@@skylerbond56 Idk man, I wrecked my 8 then bought an Integra to now drive an 86 just to plan on selling it after 2 years of ownership for another 8 now that gas prices are up and the 8 is almost 20 years old- All this being said I'm also genuinely Autistic so please consider your statement 🙏

@skylerbond56 Жыл бұрын

@@RyuusanFT86 My statement? The main comment is the one that said the rude statement. I make $35/hr gas isn't an issue

@RyuusanFT86 Жыл бұрын

@@skylerbond56 You also proved both of our points by completely misunderstanding what I said. I'm jokingly agreeing with the guy that you're responding to. On top of that, My statement was about selling a car with known reliability and good gas mileage for something that's turning 20 soon, has dogwater fuel economy and is prone to being finicky when it comes to reliability due to unorthodox and over all expensive driving and maintenance procedures. Doesn't matter If you make $1000/hr it's still way more expensive than owning an 86 in every way possible, resulting in a financially unwise decision in comparison. I do hope you understood all that, don't be the 5th person this week to be stupider than an Autist.

@skylerbond56 Жыл бұрын

@@RyuusanFT86 I got rid of the crappy Renesis in my rx8 already lol