im 70kg - my 3s power is 1200w but my ftp is only 240w - guess im a typical sprinter then?
@mindciller3 жыл бұрын
1200 isn't enough at that weight. There's lots of lighter sprinters with more power. You would need to be in the 1600's
@blinzi693 жыл бұрын
@@mindciller i dont mean i could compete on professional level all i was saying is that compared to my low ftp my sprint watts are relatively high which makes me assume i am more of a sprinter type of cyclist.
@desmoMarco913 жыл бұрын
@@blinzi69 i think it depends on your training...if you are well trained those are sprinter-type numbers. 240w is pretty decent in my book though
@geanimorandisefu11223 жыл бұрын
@@blinzi69 im 15 58kg 1269w max 10sec ...
@truetourtillott82884 жыл бұрын
I'll save everyone the suspense on my outcome vs Filippo
@patricj9514 жыл бұрын
Amazing! If you manage 300w for 4min you are in good fit. And an untrained average person may manage 200w or so. Yes, the weight and size matters of course. I am in the beginning of my cycling preparation for the season and will soon try my 4min result.
@user-cg7ql1mq8z Жыл бұрын
Is 5mins 440w is good enough?
@patricj951 Жыл бұрын
@@user-cg7ql1mq8z that is very good!
4 жыл бұрын
Ganna : 76 kg / 607 watts for 4 minutes. Me : 86 kg / 400 watts for 4 minutes. That hurts
@UbzUnclemax3 жыл бұрын
You're approximately the same weight though. Not sure where you got the 76 kg number. He's 193 cm, mind you, and got quite a muscular lower body. www.tuttobiciweb.it/article/2020/04/27/1587914722/filippo-ganna-record-del-mondo-quartetto-inseguimento-record-dell-ora
@nicolashelios85563 жыл бұрын
Me : 84 kg / 357 watts for 4 minutes. 😭😞
@simonrano80723 жыл бұрын
Me : 66 Kg / 420 watts for 4 min
@mariosimas3 жыл бұрын
@@simonrano8072 my record is 420W for 5m with 68 kilos
@simonrano80723 жыл бұрын
@@mariosimas you win :)
@Fastfitnesstips4 жыл бұрын
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@jaredfontaine20024 жыл бұрын
I am going to Salida CO from Decemeber to Oct. It is at 7,000 ft above sea level. How should I train?
@Fastfitnesstips4 жыл бұрын
@@jaredfontaine2002 Are you racing there or training? at 7000ft you will have an initial drop of 7% in aerobic efficiency but a 21% reduced aero drag. By training there progressively you will gradually acclimatize to that altitude (takes months ideally) and then you will get a significant benefit on returning to sea level. email coaching@fastfitness.tips for more.
@StephenLaneCycling4 жыл бұрын
I lasted til lap 11 of 16. Pretty happy with that. Scary thing is he would be able to beat me in the kilo... in the sprint... and I raced at the bottom end at elite level.
@jiyon1674 жыл бұрын
I went to British Cycling seminar hosted by Simon Jones, he stated that when tested most BC athletes tested would actually decelerate on the bankings and would put the power down on the straights. British cycling were trying to counter that.
@veganpotterthevegan11 ай бұрын
Weird because it's been long known to not do that. From cyclists, to speed skaters and even racecar drivers
@jpeezus65194 жыл бұрын
He's on nofap
@douglasbooth6836 Жыл бұрын
He’s done it all!!
@jordywilliams4 жыл бұрын
Owain Doull for Rio team pursuit gold did Start: 1500w On the front: 700w In the wheels: 400w
@Fastfitnesstips4 жыл бұрын
Valuable information! Do you have any link to that powerfile, if so I can improve the team model. cheers!
@jordywilliams4 жыл бұрын
FastFitnessTips: Cycling Science! Nope, just asked him on IG
@Fastfitnesstips4 жыл бұрын
@@jordywilliams What do you think of this? fft.tips/drafttrack
@njm32114 жыл бұрын
He's going for the hour record. Should be able to snatch it away.
@muratguc52453 жыл бұрын
Today he proved that it's not only me that cannot be compared to him.
@nik3tub3123 жыл бұрын
i am 65kg and my max power 4min is About 410w
@speed-qh9cc4 жыл бұрын
Wow... comparing a time from the Aussie 1993 team pursuit to Fillippo’s individual Pursuit in 2019 Ever thought of technology advancements? Training advancements? I reckon if the 1993 Aussie team pursuit had the same technology they would absolutely smash that. Oh wait, what’s the current world record for the team pursuit? 3:48.012 Which you know is a fair bit faster. Not taking anything away from Fillippo, but comparing his lighting fast time to a time from 1993 doesn’t seem right. Let’s see Fillippo or someone get under the 4 minute mark. Once seemed impossible for teams but easily done now...
@veganpotterthevegan11 ай бұрын
Well...
@douglasbooth6836 Жыл бұрын
I like the fact he didn’t look even warmed up.
@brianmessemer29734 жыл бұрын
What's my 4 minute power? Just checked my Strava power curve: 332 watts 😬
@lucazanoni91683 жыл бұрын
Amazing analysis, not sure about the 175mm cranks
@jbdvries2 жыл бұрын
As a C-racer, I have to conclude after watching this video, that I may even be slower than Filippo Ganna on my best days (by tons/ many laps ).
@dagabriel94163 жыл бұрын
Doper like all the other pro cyclists.
@wostrick22594 жыл бұрын
9:02 For me it would be easy to find these 18 watts...😁
@ilanpi4 жыл бұрын
This comparison won't work for a number of reasons: 1. Unless you are a dedicated time trialist, you won't be able to put out your maximum power over 4 minutes in the required aero position. 2. Unless you are a dedicated track rider, you won't be able to put out your maximum power at the required cadence of at least 110 rpm. 3. Unless you have practiced starts, you won't be able to start fast enough. 4. He's doing like 1:06 for the first kilometer, which beats almost all amateurs just doing a one kilometer time trial.
@Fastfitnesstips4 жыл бұрын
So true, its very difficult to do this in real life, unless you are trained specifically for this event. It is more than just power.
@OFFSHOREDOUG3 жыл бұрын
My 1 minute power. I’m happy with that. Plus can he drill an oil well?
@sasquatchrosefarts2 жыл бұрын
Didn't you know? He owns an oil rig and he powers it with his stationary trainer. so, the answer is yes.
@timlages12573 жыл бұрын
464 for 4mins is my PB at 81kg. The idea of being about to do over 600w for that length of time is terrifying.
@alex9046 Жыл бұрын
aaand the idea of holding 450 for 1 hour
@patricj951 Жыл бұрын
@@alex9046 That's incredible!
@ridenfish393 жыл бұрын
I’m about 450 for 4 minutes these days. 73 kilos. When I was younger and worked on it I did 500.
@chriswitek94554 жыл бұрын
fwiw one of the british riders said 1400w off the line, 700 on the front, 400 in the wheels for londons team pursuit
@Fastfitnesstips4 жыл бұрын
Yes quite true...obviously the exact watts depends on ability....but the 1400w is the peak power whereas I cited average over first 2 laps of acceleation
@jezhopo72214 жыл бұрын
@@Fastfitnesstips Thing to note is that the 'numbers' is always going up, London times are now outdated and wont cut it but chris' numbers look reasonable, TP is becoming a sprint not endurance ride, there is no way these guys will only average 436w in a TP.
@Fastfitnesstips4 жыл бұрын
@@jezhopo7221 You are probably right, but I need the team power data to make a correction (if only the average)
@markagent61863 жыл бұрын
I'm 55kg and have got a 4 min power if around 260
@cremenivea62823 жыл бұрын
You a pro mate, or a continental cyclist?
@paulvanzweel4 жыл бұрын
8 watts per kilo for 4 minutes sounds clean to me, nothing suspicious here.
@levivv4 жыл бұрын
ahhh cycling fans, who so dearly love to hate the sport they follow
@82vitt4 жыл бұрын
Full natty braaah!!!
@paulvanzweel4 жыл бұрын
@@levivv I don't hate the sport. It's always entertaining to see mutant wattage in action regardless of how it was achieved.
@levivv4 жыл бұрын
@@paulvanzweel you follow it with such negativity which is unwarranted and unfair to the athlete
@mightywench11574 жыл бұрын
You're an idiot who knows nothing about cycling. This is track, where pure wattage matters. Where W/kg ratios' don't matter because theres no extra resistance due to gravity on the climbs. There's no climbing in Track, you're angled sideways at a slant so gravity only works forwards, meaning its essentially a series of downhills.
@zaahierstanley9553 жыл бұрын
What is his FTP? Must be massive
@yellowusbrickus48214 жыл бұрын
450 watts 4 min
@tybobab4 жыл бұрын
Do you take into account the density of the air in your calculations ?
@Fastfitnesstips4 жыл бұрын
I took a mid-point for sea level at 25 degrees.
@cyclinguniversity12444 жыл бұрын
I got lapped on lap 4! doh.
@wigleboy4 жыл бұрын
I was glad I made 4 laps
@ADY_SR3 жыл бұрын
270 w for 4 mins.. :/
@himkent164 жыл бұрын
He's on gear
@ismailanwer73373 жыл бұрын
400 watts 5min mine power
@MLSSTM3 жыл бұрын
Me: 890 watts for 10 minutes. My Vespa: You?
@socaltop104 жыл бұрын
Very impressive power from Ganna, especially considering he must be fully natural (because it's impossible to outsmart WADA). Imagine how much faster he would be with the help of Dr Ferrari.
@dupondavignon8694 жыл бұрын
Was thinking exactly the same thing. That's why I'm so interested about their natural performance and compare them to me on a permanent basis.
@msmyankees4 жыл бұрын
Yeah WADA has never let anything slip by them before
@nothingwrongwiththisname23134 жыл бұрын
@@msmyankees Yea they do
@wervelstorm75593 жыл бұрын
Cant tell if your sarcisctic, if so nice joke.
@Bayo1063 жыл бұрын
@@nothingwrongwiththisname2313 its sarcasm
@christophergrulich15384 жыл бұрын
Jackfrags??
@MichaelCaneyJr2 жыл бұрын
420 for 4 @58 kilos.
@shaymtbrider72444 жыл бұрын
250
@zwtvchannel2 жыл бұрын
Fuuuuuck. I’m 62kg with 415W best 5min power.
@patricj951 Жыл бұрын
Very good for your weight!
@deezhond44 жыл бұрын
Its just simple,when you heart cyclist,you just push it until you still can push And don't pass the low level until pass at the upper level (watts)
@juliusv20734 жыл бұрын
351 for 4 minutes
@nicolashelios85563 жыл бұрын
Me : 84 kg / 357 watts for 4 minutes. 😭😞
@rohigz44464 жыл бұрын
Mine is 401 watts for 4 minutes
@dobi53853 жыл бұрын
My 4 minutes power is around 6.8 w/kg
@demonicdan43024 жыл бұрын
530 watts for 5 mins, but that was up a 12% hill
@evanboyle47793 жыл бұрын
515 for 4 at 75kg on a road bike uphill…..
@aa-vt2th4 жыл бұрын
Ganna is 85 kg.
@babc1424 жыл бұрын
Ganna will be well below 0.2 in all likelihood.
@relikvija3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but Sam Hyde would devastate him in a real fight.
@sirjozo_81702 жыл бұрын
so true
@sirjozo_8170 Жыл бұрын
have you seen the fight? candyman didnt see super strong but it was enough to win
@KISSTEFY4 жыл бұрын
Fillipo Ganna uses 19mm front, and 23mm rear !!!!!!
@Fastfitnesstips4 жыл бұрын
Thank you well spotted, makes very little difference to the calculation, but useful to have the correction for sure!
@KISSTEFY4 жыл бұрын
@@Fastfitnesstips please, of nothing you figured, NOT really a little difference, a lot of difference, if he with 23mm 160gr + 23mm 160gr will not win the world record! in fact with 19mm 140 gr + 23mm 160 gr
@sasquatchrosefarts2 жыл бұрын
If they made a 25mm disc he would be better off with that. The rear disc serves to reattach airflow disturbed by the front of the bike. I don't think skinnier is better in back . If someone made a 30mm rear disc I would be curious what happens to net drag. Same for 30mm wide deep carbon rims and pave tires - which would be a slam dunk for sales to bike commuters who want a fast bike and want more tire for potholes.
@KISSTEFY2 жыл бұрын
@@sasquatchrosefarts to set the hour record or the 4000 meter record, the experts do not use as you say unfortunately, because the experts find that they are the fastest tubulars in front of 19 mm and behind 23mm, the bike is very thin therefore behind thin disc wheel with 23mm tubular is enough
@sasquatchrosefarts2 жыл бұрын
@@KISSTEFY what's the widest disc in current production? Because a bigger rider makes a bigger wake, there might be times a wider disc is better at reattaching airflow.
@matteoconti61104 жыл бұрын
fyi GCN Italia estimated a range of 720-770 W
@Fastfitnesstips4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, the Italian newspapers have reported it was 607 for run 1 and 609 for run two (typo in article re 509). (www.gazzetta.it/Ciclismo/04-11-2019/ciclismo-ganna-uno-duerecord-4-km-4-02647-dopo-l-olimpiade-mi-prendo-l-ora-350813034586.shtml)
@matteoconti61104 жыл бұрын
Low 600s seems more reasonable considering that Wigging's hour record was made at 458 W
@jezhopo72214 жыл бұрын
@@matteoconti6110 Apart from he just took 8 seconds off the best time at sea level....
@krutharthr17683 жыл бұрын
1000 watts for 4 minutes is 😎
@marcelhunziker90173 жыл бұрын
0ver 600 Watt for 4 min ist not possible and who meassured that.
@nicolashelios85563 жыл бұрын
Hmmmm... 🤔 I thought too...
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