How do you like the S vs the X? Is the extra large battery worth while

@@GIedits-vf7re The X is much smoother of a ride thanks to the carbon fiber belt (make sure to get the one with the blue threading on the inside). The carbon fiber belt literally feels like butter, once you use it, you can't go back to a regular metal chain belt. I originally bought the S, but the gear shifting would get misaligned sometimes after changing gears and I just got frustrated with it and bought the X. I live in NYC and we have hills up on the north side of Central Park and the X handles them just as well as the S does, despite the S having all of the gear options. So it was a no brainer for me to switch to the X permanently. You just accommodate for the lack of gears by using the throttle more often when you reach a hill in order to give you the kick start you need to then start pedaling at a fast enough rate to then get the assist from the motor. The largest battery is MANDATORY because it effects the speed. If you get a smaller battery than the max, you can't go as fast. The X is also noticeably lighter on the rear wheel because you don't have all of the gears, so it make it feel faster and more nimble.

Are you serious? Everything on my bike broke and the customer service is all right dude I'm sure you got the bike for free to save this no offense, but I'm still trying to get mine to work after 25 miles on it so

@@BaranDanny What broke on it? I've had no problems in 3 years and but the bike through hell in NYC.

Thanks! I appreciate it

I have the X with 350w motor and largest battery. I live in NYC and circle the entire island of Manhattan almost everyday on the bike. That is about 3 hours of riding time, which is almost too much range. 12 miles is incorrect with the largest battery. My battery is 2.5 years old too.

I agree with the readout and the cracking, it's a good idea but needs some tweaking

I have both the S (metal chain) and X (carbon belt) and MUCH prefer the X. The carbon fiber belt feels like butter and is perfectly fitted to the bike dimensions (never falls off ever). I've had mine for 2.5 years and am 240 lbs and put a lot of pressure on the bike and it has has held up perfectly for years. The build of this bike is high quality.

It's from where the handlebars fold

@@ElectricRevolution A common issue with folding bikes.

I agree

I have a link in the description that will take you to their site, you can find all the specs there. I like to show you what you can't find online

The saddle lowers a lot, so much where it can fit a rider 5'2 or 3 if not smaller. I felt big on it

Haven't tried the shifter so can't say although would be nice to have some gears for hilly terrain - I'd say if you life in a flat area, get the belt, if not the geared one and as far as the motor, yeah I think the 350 is ok, they're goal is trying to make this light so adding a 500 doesn't make sense, the 350 almost feels like a 500 because it doesn't have a ton a weight to haul around. It all depends on what you're looking for.

​@@ElectricRevolution I haven't found any reviews of the model s. Any plans to test one? We have some pretty serious hills where I live

The 350w motor and largest battery are mandatory if you want to hit the max speed of 20mph. If you have high tire pressure at like 105, you can actually get up to like 23 mph. A smaller battery or motor will slow things down a lot.

​@@kayflip2233would switching to a smaller 47-406 (20x 1.76 inch) tire affect performance?

@@GIedits-vf7re Good question, i've tried all types of tires, from fat tires to slightly thinner tires and I recommend against it if you are over 200lbs as the rear tube is very sensitive to bursting if the tire doesn't allow for enough space. The schwalbe tires NEVER burst as they are wider than most tires. So if you are heavier than 200 lbs I would not change out those tires. They handle very high tire pressure extremely well and have never had any popped tubes with them. I have several layers of high quality cotton rim tape too for reference. Don't use fat tires as they will crack the rims once you inflate the tubes. If you are under 200 lbs, you might not have any issues with the thinner tires, but you definitely need the rim tape in my opinion, or else you might have issues with the tube bursting still.

We shall see

No because you get stopped out at 20 mph either way. I have both the S and the X. I much prefer the X just because the carbon fiber belt feels like butter. The S has gear shifting issues after awhile and feels clumsy. Also all of those gears add a lot of weight to the rear wheel and it impacts the speed and performance compared to the very light rear wheel of the X. The X can handle any hill that the S can, you just need to use the throttle to get up to a comfortable pedaling speed, then the assist will kick in.

@@kayflip2233 Great information. Thank you!

Not off the top of my head but I have a link over to the company in the description that should give you that info

It's called speedometer

I don't think so, you can't remove the battery

Yes, they sell an empty seat post with no battery on the Carbo website. I wouldn't want to use it as a regular bike, but you could still technically do it.

What you're paying for is the lightweight and how portable it is, not so much range, this is more of a crowded city type of bike

@@ElectricRevolution you think this is the best bike for putting in a small airplane? size and weight are biggies

The standard bike usually sells for about 2500, it's 3k with the upgraded battery and motor. They do occasionally have sales, probably worth waiting for.

​@@ElectricRevolutionI've been looking for data on the peak power of the motor at 250w versus 350 watts. Personally interested in the model s but assuming they're the same. Do you know what the peak power is?

10 miles? I consistently get 30 mile range on mine, but I have the largest battery and the 350w motor. I use the tour mode and typically pedal rather than use the throttle. I have high tire pressure too, which helps a lot (105). For reference, this allows me to completely circle the circumference of Manhattan starting from 79th street on the east side, across to the west side, all the way downtown and back uptown. I can be out for 3 hours constantly pedaling and still have a bar or two of battery when I get back home. 3 hours is plenty of time to cycle on one charge. My ass gets tired of sitting on the bike for that long anyway.

Do you have an example of a bike with similar specs at that price?

It's worth the money trust me. I've had my X for over 2.5 years and it literally functions like day one still. Absolutely zero issues and I am 240 lbs, live in NYC and absolutely put this bike through hell (bad road conditions, potholes, hills, ice, snow, sleet, speed, getting knocked up by cars and taxis, crashing several times down hills and getting doored several times, flying off of curbs and landing hard on the bike with lots of weight etc). The carbon fiber frame is so strong, belt drive is absolutely butter, motor keeps going like day one after 2.5 years, hydraulic brakes are perfect. It is extremely solid and worth every penny.

price is totally unreasonable