With 50% of steam users using 900 and 1000 series Nvidia GPUs, Devs should know not to make RT/Lumen only games if they want to sell their games 😂

Games are striving for ultra-realistic graphics these days while sometimes forgetting the core fundamental aspect of a game, which is that it should be fun. Nowadays, games often demand PC upgrades, consuming a significant amount of space on our SSDs, and, in the end, they are becoming less enjoyable. Games like BattleBits and Vampire Survivors come out to remind us gamers of what a game should be: fun above all else.

I've been rocking a GTX 1080 TI for a month now. And honestly with the technology and FSR 3 I sincerely think we can squeeze another two to three years out of this graphics card before games get completely unplayable

Prices for GPUS are absolutely insane, at this point I'm just going to wait till my 1060 breaks before I upgrade. Hopfully they will come down. No reason a gpu should cost over 500$.

That's what everybody thought when FSR and DLSS first landed. Fast forward to 2023, devs showcase these upscaling technologies as a part of their game's reveal. It won't be long when we'll be averaging 44FPS even with frame gen on.

I sometimes do prefer rasterisation over raytracing because the latter often darkens games way too much for my liking. I don't mind realism but I also want to be able to SEE.

does that mean i never have to upgrade my ati radeon hd5870 ever anymore wow thats cool man

I bought a really cheap, low-end card as a stand-in until I could afford to upgrade to something better but .. in the end, I never did because until just recently, that stubborn little GPU has handled everything I've thrown at it and it was only $110 brand new, and I've had it for years. I need to replace it *now* but it held it's own for a long time.

The simple fact that nvidia shot the price point of a 3080 to 4080 by more than $500 (almost double the price) were red flags and people took notice which is why we saw 4080s not coming off the shelves. Nvidia tried to get greedy and they need to come back down to earth.

The problem Ray Tracing has, as well as a performance hit, is that you only really experience the benefit when you stop to look for it.

Thank you for your insights. The old days where we used to update every CPU or GPU generations have past years ago. I said the fact about longer usage time 1st for Smartphones, Laptops and CPUs about several years ago. For 99 % of the people in a daily use scenario, there is simply little or no benefit of getting newer one. Same goes for GPUs now. For 99% a solid GPU may last > 5 years.

I am still using a GTX 970, and with new games too. If the game is very demanding, I just optimize the framerate vs quality. It always worked out so far, I am not a "gamer" though.

The fact that a 1080 Ti can match an RTX 4060 in terms of raw performance is proof that NVIDIA was and still is holding back.

I think the main issue is that many (particularly AAA) games are so often poorly optimised that you need more GPU power than should be necessary for performance. If this continues then the value of just lowering a couple settings may not be enough to achieve comparable visuals and FPS to when you got the card. I wouldn't be surprised if some of these game companies are intentionally doing this in agreement with the GPU companies to generate more sales.

I went from a 660 -> 1060 -> 4060 (last week). Prior to that I always spent around 2-300 every 4-6 years with the exception of when 3DFX died and everything stopped supporting them almost overnight.

You're right in principle, because they don't improve as quickly as they need to play games. The tip is to change the processor every 10-15 years, because the rare case of when the promises require the power of the processor, most often a good video card is needed.

I only update every 4 or 5 generations. Been gaming since 3DFX in the 90s and there’s simply no need to upgrade earlier unless you go for a higher fps or res monitor tbh We have settings in games for a reason..

the best games out are not about graphics but gameplay. the dev nowadays pretty much always focus appearance over gameplay and wont show real gameplay on steam, just fuckin cinematics and stuff like that. you buy a game day 1 you're sure to have a mediocre experience (server lag, unoptimized game, bugs, lack of options) and you're sure to pay for beta testing the game. game industry these days just feel like a big huge scam

I've always been the kind of person who's bought mid to high tier stuff, only to hold onto it for 5 years or more. I had my Samsung Galaxy S7 phone for 5 years and only replaced it when the screen separated from the frame. My most recent purchases from 2 years ago - an HP OMEN 17 laptop (with an Intel Core i7 12700H CPU and an NVIDIA RTX 3070 Ti laptop GPU) and Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra - will hopefully continue the trend and last 5 years or more. Like you said, with technologies such as upscaling (DLSS, FSR, XeSS, etc) and rasterization optimization, I'm hoping to really squeeze the utility out of my gear. And it's not like stuff becomes unusable in even 5 years... I still use a 2009 Apple MacBook Pro 5,5 to do simple web browsing, listen to music, and watch DVDs.

How do I use rasterisarion? I'm a newbie when it comes to frame generation technologies. I have a rx 6750 xt and use a 144hz 1080p monitor with a i76700k (yeah I get some bottleneck but its ok). What should I use? Fsr? (Which version? / Can you change the version of the Fsr? Is it super resolution?)Rasterisation? Ray tracing? Sorry for so many questions I just want to balance the looks and performance for the best experience. Any help is welcome

The big GPU companies should extend the every 2 year "New" GPU release and take 4 Years to actually make a New GPU Gen, not only will we actually get a proper upgrade but I can see it to be cheaper for them which can make GPU'S more affordable, Overall with more time they can make a cheaper, better and just a good experience for everyone

Lol.. First time watching you and I'm pretty surprised seeing a KZfaqr with an actual functional brain telling the truth that nobody is doing just because most of them are payed to advertise new products.. I like the way you play, you've got my subscription here 😏

I think they've gone up so much because they've had to go to huge die designs that probably have terrible yields just to get increased performance.

I plan to upgrade my 2080ti and 9900k to a4080 super (maybe 4090...have to wait for the 4080s prices over here) and a 78003xd to do some 4k gaming this year, do you think this combo would be good for next couple of years?

If people are gonna continue to say the trickle down effect, well I'll just point out that the GTX 980 and GTX 1080 were both advertised as 4K GPUs. Turns out when GPUs get stronger 4K just got harder to run and has continued to do so almost linearly.

First issue would be that you usually can't disable nanite, and there are recent tests done by developers where it seems that nanite have worse performance than traditional LoDs. Second issue, devs seem to use UE5 out of the box and rely on upscalers and frame gen instead of optimizing for their games. This used to be the norm some years ago, to optimize the engine you're using, now everyone chases great graphics and sacrifice performance. It's good that NV pushes the limits, evolution needs to happen (juts like in the past we evolved from text to 2d graphics to 3d graphics) but it also feels that both NV and AMD are holding back tech for proffit nowaday.

Love your video. There’s also the problem of diminishing returns when it comes to the insanely high power needed to power some GPUs. I switched from a 3090 to a 4070 and my room is physically so much cooler when I’m gaming or rendering a video.

Good video but you miss one crucial thing, many devs don't optimize games like they used to. I don't know whether it's due to schedule and release times or it takes too long to reach optimization goals but it happens way too often. Only a handful of AAA games per year should be considered demanding with the hardware we have at hand and yet much more are released unoptimized.

Happy to hear such rational thoughts by a young man. You see, it's not that big of a deal to turn a setting down or two. Graphics are so realistic today anyway. Especially for people like me that have started gaming on systems like C64 etc, it should not be considered even as a compromise. At the end of the day you 've spent so many hours on games with light years worse graphics but had a great time. Yes, progression is a good thing, but not the only thing as for graphics per se.

Maybe it's just me but I'm so disenfranchised now after years of hype marketing, empty promises, increased pricing, disappointing releases, half-apologies, excuses, and aggressive patch cycles.

Part of me just feels like either upgrading upgrading by a couple more gens (AMD's FSR3 seems pretty good and they're version of CUDA cores seem even better, but NVIDIA DLSS is super good rn, too) or crossfiring with the 5700xt I have because my PC just needs a little push for max presets and 4k. Other than that, I'd upgrade my RAM to 64GB or 128GB depending on the gaming landscape

I recently got back into PC gaming. When i was around 14 i had a GeForce 780, now i've gone for an amd 7900xtx so im really looking forward to 4k gaming!

The pricing is a self inflicted wound. Many more people upgrade every single generation of graphics card before the new prices. They're pricing out many who had thoughts of upgrading, so less people buy.

Even though I’m running a 4070 (upgrade from 1660), I can definitely appreciate FSR3 existing, especially when my pals aren’t as well off as me and they have to sacrifice so much for a game night with the bois. Props to AMD! 🎉

It's the first time I see a hardware a gpus video with pokemon black and white soundtrack in it, fits really well

I was able to get 8 years out of my r9 290 before it finally crapped out and joined the gpu afterlife. The jump to a 7900 xt blew my damn mind. I plan on keeping this card for the next 10 years, but I suppose that will change if games continue to get too demanding to the point where I'LL HAVE to upgrade again sooner rather than later.

I like waiting multiple generations because it feels so nice to bump those settings from low-medium to ultra. Recently went from RX 580 to RX 7800XT and man does it feel good. Games that were struggling on low before now run on ultra no problem. I wish it wasn't so expensive sure, but it feels good when the upgrade is such a huge leap.

The major problem is that none of the current midrange graphics cards actually feel futureproof. Nvidia has been very stingy with VRAM and AMD seems to be years behind in features (FSR is worse than DLSS, no ray reconstruction). When you buy a 4070/7800XT now, you cannot reasonably expect them to last another 7 years. What's even worse is that all the allegedly live-prolonging features are or may be exclusive to current hardware generations and who knows whether the next big thing (e.g. ai texture compression) will be available on current gen? If the hypothetical DLSS4 and FSR4 "require" new specialized ai cores to run, both the 4070 and 7800Xt will fall off quickly. We saw a similar development with the 3070 - after only two years on the market its 8GB of VRAM have already become insufficient for certain games on higher settings and it did not get DLSS3 support. While a 3070 is perfectly adequate for the time being, I don't see it lasting another 5 years. Nvidia (and AMD to a lesser extend) put planned obsolence in their gpus by limiting VRAM (and bandwidth on current 60s) and locking older cards out of current features.

I've been using a 1060 up until 2023, changed it for 3060 a few months ago and I don't plan on swapping for a couple of years, at least until I can't run any new games at 60fps with medium settings.

just upgraded from a 1660 to a 4060ti 16gb. my friend accidentally killed my motherboard when going from 16gb to 32gb ram, and trying to troubleshoot blue screens. Used it as an excuse to upgrade to a brand new motherboard, cpu, and doubled my ssd.

Your video is exactly how I see things. I never upgrade my phone. It is probably 3 or 4 generations back. I only moved from Note5 to Note9 when mine got stolen. So, N9 was same price as N5, so I went with it. But, after Note5, I don't need much more capabilities. I could still use a Note5 and be hunky-dorie happy. And, I still have a GTX 1080 TI, and I am still 100% happy with it.

Very good points. Graphics have been "good enough" in rasterization for about 5 years now, which is why there's a push towards ray-tracing. I upgraded from a GT-660 to a RTX-3080 last year, but the most recent game I play is from 2018, and this one will keep me going for another 10 years or so. Am happy to play games from 1993 to the present, so there's a huge catalogue I can play before needing to upgrade

I just found your channel and I really love the information you provide this video in particular is extremely helpful. They all are but this really opens your eyes as to how not to waste money by thinking you are having to upgrade every cycle.

The problem comes when rasterization techniques are getting less and less polished as more games incorporate the ray tracing methods into their games. You can already see that in many recent titles, ex shadows in COD. Developers are starting to give less priority to make a flawless rasterized world and rely on the ray tracing to do their job. The setting to disable ray tracing will be here for many years, but the games I think will start to look even worse by deactivating it.

My mom upgraded her iPhone 6 recently. Because the battery was swallen up. Actually it was dangerous! I'm not an Apple fan, but it's still amazing how well old iPhones hold up to this day.

When it comes to RT, Nanites, Lumen... whatever the new feature may be (hardware or software doesn't matter), I remember the good ol' days of the "tessellation wars". AMD (then still using the ATI brand) was the first company that sold consumer GPUs with hardware tessellation: The Radeon HD 2000 series. But it didn't catch on because it was proprietary and we all had to wait a little longer for DirectX 11 as the standard API for tessellation. Don't hold you breath, DirectX tessellation performance of Nvidia GPUs was huge at that time and AMD's tessellation performance was relatively "meh" in direct comparison. The problem back then was: It was a new feature and the few showcase benchmarks that made use of tessellation just massively overdid it. Those benchmarks weren't really representative of how tessellation was (and is) used in real world games. Today, of course, nobody even asks for tessellation performance of GPUs anymore - we just take it for granted. And I think what we see today is that game developers mostly forgot about the art of making reasonable use of new features. They could make new features run on mid-range GPUs (in terms like RT even the last gen GPUs). All they need to do is to limit the scope of RT etc. and only to use it where it really makes a visual difference. But then, as you said in your video: RT often isn't really that much visually superior to modern rasterization. In the end it all comes down to managing your expectations. Gamers have always been waiting for the "next big thing" in graphics. The thing that will revolutionize our gaming experience and that will boost us to whole new levels of immersion. And GPU companies, especially Nvidia, know about this and they exploit our desire for their marketing. They just start the hype train and give free tickets to the press in order to ensnare as much gamers as possible. Btw. PhysX anyone? But instead of learning from disappointments in the past, what do many of us do? - Yeah right: Gaze at Cyberpunk which was born as a tech demo and needed years of patching to become an acceptable game. /end rant ;)

You talk a lot about RT/Lumen and Rasterization but you are running everything at 1080p. Once you move to 4k gaming will the older cards still keep up? I don't know if DLSS or FSR etc will help if you are looking to move beyond 1080p

FSR plugins and MSI afterburner got me through the video card shortage during the pandemic. I was stuck on a 1050 ti with 4GB of Ram and refused to pay flipper prices.

Not only that, but also the lower graphical settings are getting to look quite incredible too! Although with exception for texture resolution though!

the reason for the performance problem is both the proprietary nature of nvidia features and the lack of RT cores. Intel on the other hand took a more balanced approach with more hardware specific units per shader than nvidia or AMD. AMD takes the spam shaders first, hardware specific units later. I like the intel GPU path for its more balanced approach which is similar to what some mobile SoCs do. Dedicated processing units and a more balanced approach on performance for every part while some SoCs will spam CPU and GPU but lack dedicated cores for other tasks. The difference in experience for gaming can differ but also depends on how easy it is to use these dedicated features in software.

isnt rtx 30 series big leap in performance like you can get something like double the performance for same price? correct me if i am wrong because i am using 1660 super and thought like good ill buy a 5060 or 6060 than so i haven't gone deep into that.

I feel like the introduction of raytracing is VERY similar to the introduction of LCD monitors. Yes it absolutely SUCKS now due to the requirements and cost you need to use it effectively, and its likely that most people are going to barely use it, if at all for the next 5-10 years at least, due to the cost. But once we break that thresh-hold I genuinely think it will be something that no one is going to be able to live without, especially once it gets much more advanced (or at the very least easier to run) EDIT: corporate greed also absolutely plays a factor here,, but when im talking about costs im not just talking about 40 series, but also 20 and 30 series cards. Especially with how half the 30 series cards perform on alan wake 2 LMAO

i love how every time we talk about how hard it is to run "modern gaming" with current hardware we always end watching mostly bad to mid af games for the benchmarks 😂

Precisely why I bought a 6800 XT last fall. Rasterization is king to me and I fully expect to be able to play games on very high settings @ 1440p for 5 years. Then I'll see what the GPU landscape looks like. Hopefully intel gets their sh*t together and we have a 3 horse race for our dollars.

I am pretty confused. You keep referring to the 5700XT, my card, as 5 years old. But I got it 1 month after it released...4 years ago. Is this a mistake? Are you rounding up the moment it turns 4 years and 1 day to exaggerate the point of age? I don't get it.

I'm still using a 1050ti, I have held off on buying a gpu for this exact reason, even if I invest in a gpu thats brand new, what actual benefits am I investing in?

I'm still using a Zotac 1080, it has been a great card for me. I don't play too many demanding AAA games. Mostly Diablo series and Division 2. Even Dead island 2 I was able to play at 1440p on mostly ultra. I wanted to get a 3080, back in the day, but well scalpers jaded me. Then I wanted a 4080, but I refuse to pay those MSRPs. So now I just stay in my lane and I don't feed the beast. But I eventually would love to one day upgrade into Raytracing. Solid video friend.

I went from 7th gen to 13th gen nvidia, from gtx 760 x2 sli to Rtx 3060, I’m totally fine with mid range cards, I think they are just right for me and I can get about 4-5 generations maybe less like 3-4 but still decent.

My oldest gaming rig still sports a Radeon R9 390, which incidently has been used for crypto mining and though I wish I hadn't done that, it can still run relatively modern games like RDR2 and Satisfactory in "fairly high" to highest settings, though I now have to spike up the airflow in my case quite a bit, as to not throttle my entire system with lingering heat. The card just doesn't do ray-tracing, which really isn't an issue for me, since I'm usually too concentrated on my in-game goals to notice how pretty the light looks... What bothers me is that I was looking into a custom water cooling loop for my system, which I might have been able to build for less money than a high-end AIO-cooler, if it weren't for the fact that I can't find any gpu blocks that fit my card anymore. Most of the companies that offer custom water cooling parts seem to have jumped on the band wagon of making perfectly capable hardware redundant because the spare parts aren't being made available anymore...

Vex, iam so hell bent on RT, especially on reflections and i just cant stop using it, i don't know how i feel about it, i enjoy it but also despise it at the same time, any advice?

I personally feel RTX 30 and RDNA 2 are gonna be the last two great gpu generations

One more thing i have issue with is, they should focus on giving similar performance while using less power or resources, and/or more performance for similar power draw or resources. This is just both power draw and performance go up, that shouldn't be the case in name of next gen and of course, for same price as the last gen.

I usually like your videos but seriously? I have a 4060 laptop and it can run Cyberpunk well with RT, just need to know what settings to use. I can play at 60+fps with good graphics and RT on

I'm using RX6500XT and RX6700XT and i think it's gonna be long time before i'm upgrading GPU.. But GTA VI makes me kinda wonder, is my GPU still can handle that graphics, crowds in game, etc.

I used to upgrade every gen. I've done it since 3dfx voodoo in the 1990's From 1998 to probably 2018 I upgraded maybe 15 times. Mostly Nvida but I've had a couple of AMD as well But since 2018 the selling points aren't "You need to upgrade to play this" - instead the selling points are about specific uplifts in features I'm already perfectly happy with "More FPS " - I'm happy with 60 "Support higher resolutions" - I'm happy with 2560x1080, my eyesight can't appreciate much higher pixel density than that even on a huge screen "Ray Tracing".. - Meh!! All the games I want to play play well on my now 3 year old GFX and I see no games that I want to play coming in the next year or two to change that. 3 generations now seems about right.

The only reason I upgraded to RTX 2060 was for rendering with UE 5 and Twinmotion and it's just minimum requirement. I don't play games usually with RT on. I rather play with higher frame rate with nice enough looks than lower frame with bells and whistles.

feb 2024 should i built a new pc for 1440p gaming now or wait a little bit for zen5?

I like this dude. keep em coming my man. subscribed! :D

imo framegen is only good if you reach around 60fps without it,anything lower and the input lag is way too much (i'm using a 4090)

This is hilarious to me, because I called this all the way back in 2018 when RT first appeared. My first reaction when it was announced was along the lines of "There's no way graphics cards are going to be able to do real time lighting effects at any kind of playable performance". This opinion came from playing things like Quake source ports (yes Quake 1) like DarkPlaces, which have real time lighting effects, and even on the fastest cards at the time (1080Ti) DarkPlaces was bringing those cards to it's knees, and that was just Quake 1. The vast majority of gamers are just going to bypass RT effects, until GPU's can run it at the same, or similar performance to standard rasterization lighting. That's just the facts.

i currently have a rtx 1030 2gb gpu and i am going to upgrade to 3060 12gb or 4060 8gb i have a ryzen 5 5600x would i be bottlenecked after this upgrade please help me clear my doubts i have many

4:55 i am in the camp of let hold graphic in the level of ps4 rdr2 and just increase gameplay, animation, optimization and interesting game mechanic

Don’t think I’ll be getting rid of my 1080ti anytime soon but I’m wondering more about CPU upgrades. Can you use DDR5 ram as well with the 1080ti? Currently running 3000mhz ddr4 Ram with my i7-8700K so can anyone recommend a good upgrade for these 2? Most of the games I’m playing are relying a lot on CPU and Ram for some reason

Another reason graphic card prices have gone up, is because of things like LLMs and local Stable Diffusion tools (like Automatic1111 and ComfyUI). Games might need 8GB, but LLMs and image AI see 8GB as the lowest level, so people want cards with way more memory, so the demand for the top end cards increased.

The baked in lighting in modern game is by far enough quality for me. I game at 1440 144-170hz mostly in single player games and when I am immersed in the game I DO NOT stop and think "WOW the light coming from the right and behind me would look so much better I wish I had spent that $1200+ on a 4080 or $2k on a 4090...". Until consoles can run full RT right out of the box without smoke and mirrors and still get 120 fps raster will be king. Save the $ and go buy some more games to play. You can extend the life of ur GPU even further with things like the FSR3 Frame Generation MOD.

i have no plans to upgrade mine at all, i guess if i start running into performance issues and feel like i really need some more frames, ill prolly get one a little bit better

9:26 4080 for $12,000 damn that's expensive(I know it's a typo, still funny though)

i've been having the same gpu forever (rx480) it's getting a bit long in the teeth these days but still does the job if you throw out ambient occlusion and some other stuff it doesn't do well with :D and if you were lucky enough to buy a 1080ti at the time, the entire generation of geforce cards after that was pretty much pointless, it still holds up today, although yeah the TDP is a bit more toasty

i find myself inevitably buying the 70 series cheap refurbished or second-hand about a year or two after it drops. only 3 GPUs i own are the 10, 20 and 3070’s and all of them are still viable in their different pcs with different use cases.

Some good points. But in regards to the upgrade cycle and the price, i feel it's bit of a chicken and the egg thing. I suspect developers increased the prices for gpu in the midst of the crypto mining craze followed by corona lockdowns and used that opportunity to keep these prices high in order to make more profit. This, combined with inflation and less money available to spend on stuff like computer upgrades, leads to consumers being hesitant to upgrade as frequently as they maybe did in the past. And this again is a good reason for developers to stretch the time between meaningful releases for a higher mark up.

The prices of pc components are insane. I wasnt able to use my pc for 2 years after my 1050ti died. Few months ago i got amd 6600. It is nice to be able to play Cyberpunk and AC Oddessy but im afraid we will be pushed more and more towards the tech that still preforms badly, that uses a lot of power to run and not to mention how much it cost. All the while games look amazing in the "old school" tech. I think rise of indie games is connected, giving players what they want , not a demanding game but a game with cool gameplay mechanics, great stories, unique art style and so on. Also it is the reason more and more people get some sort of console.

Good explanation and analysis. I just built a new computer to be able to Fly combat jets in DCS and boy did I pay for it. I see this PC lasting way down the road baring a melt down.

This reminds me of a conversation I had with my teacher, I was wondering why serial transmissions picked up over parallel, despite parallel communicating more at a time.

I went from a 1070 to a RX 7800 XT, and I'm definitely not going to upgrade for the foreseeable future, it's a huge chunk of money. The only thing that might make me upgrade is energy efficiency. I would have to run the numbers, though, and see what energy prices do.

Graphics are the least important thing to me. Because what I see as important is the BALANCE between Graphics, Artstyle, and Performance. If those 3 things aren't treated well, then we have a problem

I am an older gamer. 10 years of upgrades in the 90s took you from a 486sx to a pentium 3 and the games from Civ 1 to Deus Ex. This was Win3.1x to win 98, and you went from having to edit config sys and autoexec bat in DOS to get Doom 1 to run, to basically the modern era of gaming. 10 years of upgrades now? I had an old i7 3770k from 2013 that I gace to a friend with a 1060 6mb installed and it still runs CP2077 on low/medium. Gaming reqs have been flatlining for a while now, if you clicked off certain functions. I can see my current PC lasting 10 years, easily.

The 'feels' that you got from owning a fast car is way more important than how fast you actually driving that car.

Vex, always glad to hear your honest take. Seeing how much of an investment it is to afford a decent GPU nowadays, it's important to have a clear idea of what you need (a rational purchase) versus what you want (an impulsive buy). Yeah, I'm definitely waiting for Battlemage to see how things end up. 😉

We upgrade devices less often because the prices have increased, not the other way! It has nothing to do with how many new features they have.

Makes sense. Upgraded from 1080 to 4090 recently, and hope to run that one for 6-7 years as well

i just dont like how the games that use too much rtx or even the games that are dependent on RTX like quake RTX, Minecraft RTX, Portal 2 RTX, ray tracing is incredibly noisy in movement, its not so visible on youtube because ironically this is a rare case where compression makes it look better since it hides the noise, but in game, everything looks amazing static, but as soon as you start moving then the lightning starts breaking because RTX original intention was never to render in real time.

The main factor that makes people take any purchase decision, is price. If the card become pricey then you gonna save for what you can get and make it last all you can. After all, you have to make the investment worth it.

Last month I build a new computer and upgraded my GTX 1070 to a new AMD 7600. Not the biggest jump, even after all those years and generations passed. It is meant to be a stop gap solution only and will probably upgrade to a faster card next year.

Im still on a 1080 seahawk ek X all these years later and it still runs games flawlessly, i might have to play some on medium settings but it doesnt bother me. I will only upgrade if I can double the performance for $500 or under, otherwise it just isnt worth it

i got 1650,, is it still worth it in this year?

I'm not sure if Nvidia's plan with RT is working... we'll prolly see in about 10 years XD Also 9:28, a 4080 is $1,200 not $12,000 my bad. Dam, they would love that tho

GPUs also had years of drivers support in the past. My GTX 670 got like 8 years of drivers from NVIDIA. AMD and NVIDIA thought the mining craze was going to be the new normal. It will still take a bit more time for them to come back to their senses and offer cards at a reasonable price. Rooting for Intel to gain market share quickly to put some pressure on then. This reminds me of the CPU era between the FX series and Ryzen when Intel was fleecing us for quad core processors that had meager incremental gains. One thing I noticed is that since 2019 all these tech advancements have been targeted towards DEVELOPERS instead of customers/gamers. Ray Tracing is an ask from their end, to make life easier and having to rely less on tricks and adding manually light sources and shadows. Also I don't quite understand why they seem to be forced to adopt UE5. There's no visual gain and a significant performance loss. Batman Arkham Knight is a modified UE3 title, and still one of the best looking games of the market. For all the talent they have coding, they also seem to have very little business sense: Release demanding and broken games and they will bomb (Forspoken, Lords of the Fallen, The Medium and many more) I get there's diminishing returns, now more than ever, and that graphics are also tied to the budget and talent a studio has. But we can't help but make the comparison between the best looking 8th generation games on decade old consoles, vs the newest games. There is nothing next generation about them, no wow factor, nothing but gigantic asks for our HW and wallets. A really terrible tradeoff. No wonder we are in 2023 and it feels that this generation hasn't started yet.

First time I hear this viewpoint on gpu prices. It is spot on, convincing

I'm about to build my first gaming PC i want to buy the rx 6700 xt, will that be a good gpu that will last for 7 years from now?

I'll be honest, I was on a 1080 ti 11gb and 2700x but just upgraded to a 4080 and a 58003dx so hopefully that will set me up for the many years ahead (hopefully).