Young Thug Engineer Alex Tumay on Recording

Young Thug Engineer Alex Tumay on Recording | Red Bull Music Academy

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Nobody knows prolific and mercurial Atlanta rapper Young Thug quite like audio engineer Alex Tumay.
In his Studio Science at the 2016 Red Bull Music Academy, Tumay discusses how he finished up Young Thug’s JEFFERY in an Uber, “Ocean Drive” and much more.
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The Queens, NY, native has been the only professional able to keep up with the talented rapper, harnessing his abilities on the Slime Season trilogy of mixtapes, I’m Up and JEFFERY. An unheralded yet essential presence on a number of pivotal Atlanta hip-hop albums, Tumay has also worked with 21 Savage & Metro Boomin’s “Ocean Drive,” Travis Scott on Rodeo and lent his ear to the track “Highlights” from Kanye West’s The Life of Pablo.
TOPICS
0:01 - Alex breaks down a track recorded by participants at the 2016 Red Bull Music Academy
6:24 - 21 Savage
12:54 - Finishing up Young Thug's "JEFFERY" on an Uber ride through Manhattan
15:40 - Demo-itis
16:58 - Young Thug - "Best Friend"
20:20 - Recording TLC
25:39 - Microphone Suggestions
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@RBMA 4 жыл бұрын

You can read more on Alex Tumay here... ► www.redbullmusicacademy.com/lectures/alex-tumay-lecture

@coreycarmelo416 3 жыл бұрын

You prolly dont give a shit but if you're bored like me atm then you can stream all of the new series on InstaFlixxer. Been streaming with my brother these days xD

@ahmadbriggs3856 3 жыл бұрын

@Corey Carmelo Definitely, been using instaflixxer for years myself =)

@idrisskyler5726 3 жыл бұрын

@Corey Carmelo Definitely, have been watching on instaflixxer for years myself :D

@brodybrysen9773 3 жыл бұрын

@Corey Carmelo Yup, I've been using instaflixxer for since november myself :)

@emmittsutton3561 3 жыл бұрын

@Corey Carmelo Definitely, been using InstaFlixxer for since december myself =)

@SetMeFree 4 жыл бұрын

I interned at a major studio in Atlanta when Young Thug was recording Thugger Girls, Alex was there a lot of the time and he was really cool. He gives back a lot. Insane experience altogether for me. Even saw Future pull up in his convertible black Lambo. Can't believe I was in the middle of all that now that I think about it. Grateful for it all.

@BingBongRockety 4 жыл бұрын

did you learn anything recording-wse/mix wise that you'd like to share?

@SetMeFree 4 жыл бұрын

BingBongRockety I asked him what was the best mixing advice overall he could share with me and he told me to start mixing my friend’s projects for free. Mix anything I can get my hands on. Which turned out to be true because the only way you can become a professional is to have hundreds, eventually thousands, of projects under your belt. Good advice. I didn’t mix anyone’s projects for free but I did start my prices out very low, gradually raising my hourly rate by $5.

@BingBongRockety 4 жыл бұрын

@@SetMeFree thanks man, i been mixing so much shit lately, just waching videos and shit, i did a 18 track project in like a day but it was very fun and i think i am actually getting better. you have any place i can talk to you maybe you can talk to me, teach me some stuff.

@SetMeFree 4 жыл бұрын

@@BingBongRockety yeah my instagram is @ dustybrogdon. I can tell you what I know. It's crazy how good you can get using just the stock plugins. Every once in a while, I'll open a project from 2-3 years ago and I'll see how drastic my vocal chain has changed, not so much the plugins but how I set them. Over time, as your ear gets used to the room your in, you'll make little micro-adjustments to your EQ or compressor and it'll make all the difference in the world. I remember at one point Joey Sturgis wouldn't show his vocal EQ because he wanted his students to figure out their own settings. I've been recording as a job for 3 years and I still feel like I'm trash compared to the GOATS but everybody in my town comes to me and they swear up and down I got the juice, haha. You really just gotta be recording people or mixing (FINISHING PROJECTS) to become a beast.

@SetMeFree 4 жыл бұрын

When I was interning and met Alex, I was ASS as an engineer but I've always been a good songwriter.

@kingkai4004 2 жыл бұрын

12:57 he talks about the Jeffrey album

@jadriencollard116 2 жыл бұрын

Goated

@dead_assassinyt2203 2 жыл бұрын

ily

@Iv5.7 2 жыл бұрын

Godly for this

@cadny2176 2 жыл бұрын

🐐

@zay6153 2 жыл бұрын

Thank god that’s all I came here for 💯

@kb909 4 жыл бұрын

When he mentioned lowering the beat instead of the raising the vocals. Holy shit what a common mistake between engineers AND producers. People always counteract quietness by raising levels instead of dropping them. THANK YOU ALEX FROM THE PAST

@Rnfjaydee 4 жыл бұрын

Ive always done that😂cause of clipping

@ahw5hcgfyj 5 жыл бұрын

"I'm not afraid of compression, I'm just not the biggest fan" - dude who put 5 compressors on his mix buss

@thisisit130 5 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@keepmovinent7679 5 жыл бұрын

🤣

@d.strange289 5 жыл бұрын

he means heavy compression goofy. the whole lecture is about never doing too much.

@t3rm116 4 жыл бұрын

LMFAO!!!!

@asmrcustoms 4 жыл бұрын

Lmao😂😂

@victor42580 7 жыл бұрын

Here is his mastering chain : Slate Digital SSLComp Slate Digital FG-GREY Slate Digital virtual tapes machine Slate Digital Virtual Mixbuss Waves S1 Stereo Imager Slate Digital FGX

@WABIGVNG 7 жыл бұрын

My nigga

@Chopstar 6 жыл бұрын

waves sslcomp*

@yungtenn101 6 жыл бұрын

Victor Malvolti thank you

@tyquez15 6 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU

@YoungKye 6 жыл бұрын

missed the L3

@h.j.w2783 4 жыл бұрын

Mastering Chain is as follows: 1. Waves SSL G-Master Buss Compressor 2. Slate Digital Buss Compressor (FG-Grey) 3. Slate Digital Virtual Tape Machine 4. Slate Digital Virtual Mix Buss (Virtual Console Collection) 5. Waves L3 Multimaximizer 6. Waves S1 Stereo Imager 7. Slate Digital FG-X Mastering Processor

@TRNRILY 5 жыл бұрын

I didn't even notice him saying like, was too busy hearing what he had to say about mixing tracks and working with clients.

@patrickwilkie5576 5 жыл бұрын

"Dropbox is full" -- even professionals feeling that struggle

@jnny7182 4 жыл бұрын

Patrick Wilkie HA

@ilovecody7514 3 жыл бұрын

He forgot about his all time favorite plugin, CLA VOCALS.

@killamill9534 3 жыл бұрын

fax

@adamkaktusmusic 3 жыл бұрын

Alex 'CLA' Tumay

@HaasSpitta 2 жыл бұрын

CLA vocals is nice for quick mixes tbh, when I don’t want to put in all the work for perfection lol, just the general idea

@APKSRMKS 7 жыл бұрын

19:07 i shit myself

@AaaaAa-yf6ku 7 жыл бұрын

APKSRMKS HAHAHA

@svenlindecrantz3927 6 жыл бұрын

Hahahahahh

@Spince28 7 жыл бұрын

This shit really is an art in itself

@namebrandlosangeles9182 7 жыл бұрын

yes it is. I'm in school for it myself and it aint no joke

@GreenJake33 7 жыл бұрын

Nu Black Soul im not in school for it and you probably have to play some catch up. It's all about the reps and daily hours of trial and error.

@namebrandlosangeles9182 7 жыл бұрын

bilbo baggins I've been producing and engineering myself since 05. I taught myself everything I know( before all the KZfaq tutorials), always thought engineering and producing was something out had to teach yourself, but once I found out there are schools for I checked in immediately. Though nothing is wrong with trial and error there is no replacement for knowing the actual science so you know exactly what you're doing

@Typidica 7 жыл бұрын

obviously, producers are the hardest workers much more than rappers nowadays except for like 3% of the lyrically insane

@harborcree 7 жыл бұрын

Spencer Johnson NOWWW you wanna call it an art? lololol

@boomer3rdeye195 7 жыл бұрын

i will never say the word "Like" again.

@deebornrich2929 4 жыл бұрын

Boomer 3rd eye 😂😂😂😂💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

@mihndpmr9723 4 жыл бұрын

I wish I wouldn't have scrolled down.. I didn't realize how bad it was till I read your comment. Or he just bets worse as the video goes on I'm not sure..

@Alton_Roundtree 4 жыл бұрын

I had a teacher in 5th grade keep me after school because I kept saying like. It took me damn near an hour before I realized I said like too much. Reading helps and pausing before you finishing your sentences.

@fl1325 4 жыл бұрын

Liked

@jessedutton2474 4 жыл бұрын

Drove me crazy, makes this kind of hard to watch for me

@ZHAOS 7 жыл бұрын

that one fucking girl just on her phone, holy shit

@faraitheprod 7 жыл бұрын

MIght be writing notes,

@mrbass093 6 жыл бұрын

Producers and engineers; take notes. Haters; keep your negative energy with you we don't want that.

@DmitryPolovka 3 жыл бұрын

Like where should I keep it like?

@RawUndergroundMusic 4 жыл бұрын

That’s the longest I’ve ever seen anyone in a studio without playing a sound

@Deshawn6 3 жыл бұрын

Facts. I was waiting for some demos

@heathsledger 3 жыл бұрын

red bull prob edited out the demos cause of copyright concerns :(

@JayKay-iv5iw 3 жыл бұрын

His philosophies on mixing can help you get out of your own way. Salute!

@elevatetoday 7 жыл бұрын

surely can't hurt to play a few seconds of audio.. apart from that dope lecture

@Rararahi 7 жыл бұрын

He's nearly giving away his secrets if he played the audio he'd let the entire cat out of the bag. Gotta get paid somehow it's not his job to make us good engineers.

@reverse2k13 7 жыл бұрын

How would he give away secrets from playing the audio? He already gave his whole master chain and plugins he uses. I think seeing the chains he uses would hurt him more then hearing the audio lmao

@Esscarrgo376 7 жыл бұрын

I agree I think it's more of a copyright thing. Think about it, this video would be taken down by youtube just like the La Flame Documentary travis had.

@elevatetoday 7 жыл бұрын

Jon Rahi I've seen plenty mix breadowns from artist that are way bigger

@Rararahi 7 жыл бұрын

Reverse yeah you're right that is more harmful probably. I just think he is trying to be helpful but not give away his whole thing and if they played the audio for it then we'd know exactly what he does to achieve what he's doing (not that it's anything CRAZY or out of the ordinary.) just my two cents tho.

@thepeoplespeakmusicJQ 7 жыл бұрын

One thing I would like to say is I'm happy you are explaining to them the music and how it really works. No if's or buts about st8 to the point. But a lot of those kids look a little lost and are rethinking their career right now. Cause you are telling them how it needs to happen. If not you will not last more then first major session. My name is Jordan and I've worked on about 400 major sessions. This career is not as easy as it looks. Have fun and make the most of it and be creative. But don't over think it.

@shane2973 4 жыл бұрын

I saw him talking at the waves booth at namm this year and he seems like a genuinely nice guy

@frewen20 5 жыл бұрын

6:16 'I don't know if you've heard of that.' ..... still humble I love it

@notdaones 3 жыл бұрын

I've been mixing a long time and producing and recording longer. Many amazing learning moments in my life. This is among them.

@smokoguap 2 жыл бұрын

Can you mix and master me?

@weswilson8198 6 жыл бұрын

Priceless info...what an awesome lecture!

@MikeysteelUk 7 жыл бұрын

thank you alex, this is wonderful... youre a legend

@Ojiggalojuice 4 жыл бұрын

Biggest thing I took from this was " how am I gonna get through this. Like how?" 🙏🏽 good aspect

@user-xt2wj1qh2e 7 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Thank you Alex and Red bull academy👍🏼👍🏼

@avalanche768 5 жыл бұрын

all these professionals in youtube comments can't even realize why he can't play audio and get mad about it LOL. made my day

@hlokomani 7 жыл бұрын

fuck man been waiting for you to press play lmao

@Shu_BLN 7 жыл бұрын

like like like like like like like like like

@urolderbrother 7 жыл бұрын

so, he was nervous. i was in the room for this workshop and he is pretty brilliant and you're pretty petty.

@rmnatchez7197 7 жыл бұрын

like like like like like like. If I could get paid $1 evry time I'm talking to ppl that's what you hear every 3rd word. Please say what you mean and mean what you say.

@Shu_BLN 7 жыл бұрын

ahahah lol

@rmnatchez7197 7 жыл бұрын

Calm down Bro

@brianphilips1092 7 жыл бұрын

Shu_BLN he apologized on Twitter lol

@LongMasterWolf 7 жыл бұрын

The GOAT

@MrStupididy 7 жыл бұрын

is this david blaine doing beats.

@MarsBeats777 5 жыл бұрын

Isaac V doing beats?

@IsshmanGarcia 4 жыл бұрын

"Old outdated plugins" means Cracked...NOT hating, just saying.

@Rnfjaydee 4 жыл бұрын

Fax😂

@moano3271 4 жыл бұрын

Probably not. As an example.. the various izotope ozone suites sounds different from eachother even with the same settings because of how they are made.

@Jay-sb2ed 4 жыл бұрын

Who cares tho

@3rdeye931 4 жыл бұрын

Quit snitching

@0121doone 4 жыл бұрын

Alright 6ix9ine calm down

@gmoney8119 4 жыл бұрын

Dude was about to cry talking about DS2 😂😂

@asaiya705 3 ай бұрын

I really like what you said about enjoying the space in the music. I learned to enjoy this through other styles of music I was writing and playing, keeping the dynamics is the way

@amirperry3015 7 жыл бұрын

Dope. Dope. Dope. Thank you for this!!!

@bsykesbeats4013 4 жыл бұрын

26:12 I never used the AT4047, but I will say the AT4040 is one the best (if not the best) mic I've ever heard in the $300 or below price range and better or just as good as a lot of mics that are 10x more expensive.

@DjCfade 3 жыл бұрын

Young engineer from Atlanta taking notes 📝🔥

@bonds9322 4 жыл бұрын

Damn I watched the whole thing?? Time flys when you’re soaking in gems 😭

@MikeHeebz 5 жыл бұрын

Dope. Would love to see & hear more from Alex on mixing hip hop. There is very little quality videos out here.

@SeanMariani 5 жыл бұрын

You can learn so much from this video 🙏🙏💯

@leanhoven 5 жыл бұрын

Just talk

@ovoxo7396 7 жыл бұрын

U can tell 21 recorded in his basement i hear his alarm system beep in songs especially Red Opps

@jackeylynch 5 жыл бұрын

it was the kitchen/living room.. Atlanta rappers get it out the mud.. there aren't very many basements in Atlanta.. those would get converted into full blown studios.. We wish we could find legitimate basements in Atlanta.. lol

@Sundji 5 жыл бұрын

I went to go listen cuz I thought you was trippin but like 3 seconds into the song theres a really loud one

@SlviBoySwag 4 жыл бұрын

ovo xo lol its the smoke/co2 detectors everybody has in their apartments.

@nell1of1 3 жыл бұрын

This happened to me today

@YAYYEE 7 жыл бұрын

I wish I was that uber driver, I woulda learned something.(Ps I don't drive uber & I'm in California)I'm gonna try that mixing in the car. I told myself to listen to it in 3 different sound environments before putting it out, but I get lazy & rely on just the studio monitors & sometimes the mix is shitty In the car. But Im back to working harder & checking mixes

@shavarez 4 жыл бұрын

I tried that and killed my battery smh

@Rnfjaydee 4 жыл бұрын

Shavarez Smith 😂

@shavarez 4 жыл бұрын

JayDee bra I was hurt. Had to get a jump from the Chinese delivery man

@OMGKenny314 7 жыл бұрын

I'm mad they had to cut the audio tho 😪

@sizzle3207 7 жыл бұрын

Young I.G.G. red bull always does this. blame youtube

@tone_valentine 7 жыл бұрын

for real, it's kind of pointless.

@senatormendoza18 7 жыл бұрын

prob license /rights issues

@Sketchysketches16 7 жыл бұрын

More of this kind of stuff please

@c-ris1629 Жыл бұрын

2023 still a classic, thx Alex

@aaronsesay6 7 жыл бұрын

Finally Watching This

@rizvantuitahi3292 7 жыл бұрын

shout out to the dude @ 14:24 rockin the dawn raid ent hoodie . nz up !

@antoniogaspar2972 7 жыл бұрын

beautiful lecture

@BeatMakingVideosCom 7 жыл бұрын

Great stuff❕

@prodbyd740 4 жыл бұрын

Wow this is such good information. Thank you

@beanbryant1453 5 жыл бұрын

there's always another level man damn everything is hard work lol

@mrbass093 6 жыл бұрын

These are good pointers for sure.

@TradeWithYT 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you. This is just what I needed

@harborcree 7 жыл бұрын

Tae Skies like, what? like.

@triplxsix 7 жыл бұрын

like, i kinda, like, i dont know...

@estebanb7166 7 жыл бұрын

triplxsix It's literally a free education. Everybody complains about everything, huh?

@deebornrich2929 4 жыл бұрын

godjira 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@skrublue 4 жыл бұрын

@@estebanb7166 fr bruh

@kabelothebeeagae6884 4 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@Boissinova 4 жыл бұрын

brave little you and all that public speaking ability on your channel. grow up.

@limittestresearchinstituti5801 5 ай бұрын

2:59 is so true yet ive never really heard anyone vocalize it b4

@S3LFSH 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks red bull recording

@caleionholmes6868 Жыл бұрын

This is fire 🔥

@Iamjohnnythethird 4 жыл бұрын

You are great man, thank you!

@Winscotter 7 жыл бұрын

No matter what this dude says he's obviously good at what he does. That's why he has his job.

@_JohnnySav 7 жыл бұрын

Great job Alex

@YourOnlyFriend5493 6 жыл бұрын

This dude says “like” for every other word . Sheeeesh

@BobBobBobBobBobBobBobBob 6 жыл бұрын

is there a reason to not run the REQ 6 plugin before sending for reverb/doubler/delay etc.?

@jerryside02 7 жыл бұрын

This was great! I learened soooo much.. Would be awesome if you could upload a pro tools template?

@LilStig333 7 жыл бұрын

real legit yo !

@diljoe9678 5 жыл бұрын

legend. shlatt

@imBQL 7 жыл бұрын

NOTES TAKEN THANK YOU 🙌

@randybdot 7 жыл бұрын

Very Dope.

@Andrex432 6 жыл бұрын

yo this shit is so good god bless alex

@KendrickCreates 4 жыл бұрын

I'm sure there's some dope wisdom being dropped here, but like I can't even.

@BeatsByMason 4 жыл бұрын

Kendrick Kirk 🤣

@BluJMuzik 7 жыл бұрын

I Lol'ed when he said 21 Savage records most his vocals in his basement

@mikejoril 6 жыл бұрын

6:58 so true!!!

@TheCrewMane 7 жыл бұрын

Youth lagoon is amazing

@gc1764 7 жыл бұрын

didn't realise he had worked with him. incredible albums. first one if prob my most played album ever

@selphproductions3153 7 жыл бұрын

New drinking game Take a shot every time he says "like"

@jacknick7582 5 жыл бұрын

i made it 20 seconds and then blacked out

@Unknownapprenticetx 5 жыл бұрын

i was playin with my friend now he passed out

@tomrao4 4 жыл бұрын

I just woke up. I was in a coma for 2 years 🤦‍♂️😂

@imnotjacob. 3 жыл бұрын

I still haven't recovered.

@BATTLEOFTHEBEATMAKERSTV 6 жыл бұрын

Pretty dope!

@CandyManTelevision 7 жыл бұрын

dope

@Produced.by.nobody 7 жыл бұрын

Said like at least 1000 times

@PowerOfDestruction 7 жыл бұрын

This guy said Like, Like a Billion Times Like!

@wbw187 7 жыл бұрын

wish the whole video was there

@dreloveproductions 5 жыл бұрын

19:08 looks a beginning of a ad or something 😂😂

@eeefox1 5 жыл бұрын

'Please give just £3 a month so we can these help these people get proper careers'

@thenotoriousziz 6 жыл бұрын

Where can i learn what he's talking about? like is there some videos i can learn about engineering with somewhere online?

@KiLLACAiN 7 жыл бұрын

whole time Alex thinking.. "why the fuck should i show them my secrets" LOL

@Cartman-Official 7 жыл бұрын

I love the way he mixes London On Da Track beats. Specially them kicks.

@rosegold-beats 4 жыл бұрын

they don't know they have a legend in front of them

@XXROGUE 4 жыл бұрын

19:07 When you REALLY want to hear what someone has to say.

@stolenroars 4 жыл бұрын

guy at 2:55 uses the plugin he's talking about and puts shimmer all over everything

@Johndeezz 7 жыл бұрын

wow learned alot in so lil time were do i sign up

@TenziingYo 7 жыл бұрын

As a novice recording engineer, I'm curious as to how you would go about setting the input levels so that when Dex is going crazy in the booth, the audio signal doesn't clip.. My guess is to set the input gain extremely low, so that his vocals won't go any higher than about -6dB (which is still wayy to hot/loud for an input signal)... Or do they use a compressor on the pre-amp/Audio-Interface to keep the audio signal from jumping..???

@josephdempsey4217 5 жыл бұрын

Herbie Hancock a huge ratio of compression.

@brandonuhlemeyer3470 4 жыл бұрын

Herbie Hancock distressor Nuke mode maybe?

@cmili4039 2 жыл бұрын

They record with outboard compressors and good pres on most artists

@BingBongRockety 5 жыл бұрын

can someone explain to me the atlanta way of recording (and the mixing too, like the process)

@prodbyd740 4 жыл бұрын

Loll DA spinzzzzz

@ihateucam1898 6 ай бұрын

Goat

@phil1353 4 жыл бұрын

Retiring from The Colts was probably the greatest thing you ever did Andrew. Thank you for changing your name and coaching us on how to mix.

@Pwayko 7 жыл бұрын

He said "like" enough to take care of each & every video on KZfaq #LIKE

@ysndrako5380 5 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@nickbarrett7163 5 жыл бұрын

i think he's hinting for us to like this video

@stancaj9295 7 жыл бұрын

I hope your talking about this guy and not me because I'm not an engineer but have had plenty of experience with people thinking because there doing the production and engineering it's amazing

@MyLittleBrotherOwen 7 жыл бұрын

The Goat teaching me.

@nateyp700 7 жыл бұрын

How can I get in the Red Bull music academy?!

@nicolasbaillie4506 7 жыл бұрын

by applying :) applications usually go out in january

@monarc98 4 жыл бұрын

@@daniellane5574 for real, but ima be honest yo - there's so much shit they teach you in recording/engineering school that you can't just look up on google

@amanisun8293 4 жыл бұрын

Monarc true shit

@lukex1727 Жыл бұрын

3:20 What was he saying about Mike Dean? It sounded like he was talking about New Slaves but idk

@BadJopkes 7 жыл бұрын

easily more likes in the video than the video has.

@user-jdxkfnm 4 жыл бұрын

im very confused... does he turn off his master bus plugins when hes exporting the track for the mastering engineer or does he leave it on? ... can somebody please xplain?

@johnnynarcotics7299 3 жыл бұрын

Turns them off