We usually draw with a combination of measuring and observation. When do you switch from one method to the other? This is from a brand new premium lesson in my Drawing Basics course! www.proko.com/drawing
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@Eric-yd9dm11 ай бұрын
Flipping upside down is very powerful to convince beginners that they can really draw anything as long as their pre conceptions don't get in the way. That's how I started, at least
@ProkoTV11 ай бұрын
Yeah! It's a great technique that I still recommend for a lot of artists.
@endrek489511 ай бұрын
@@ProkoTVmy mom also recomends looking at it in the mirror to see flaws
@leif107511 ай бұрын
@@ProkoTVwhat type of pen or pencil are you using here?
@Handle...This.11 ай бұрын
@@endrek4895i was just coming to say that
@boywonder212011 ай бұрын
I drew upside down and it’s just as ugly as right side up 😂😂😂
@quietspark870311 ай бұрын
Draw what you see not what you think you see is one of those concepts that makes absolutely no sense until suddenly it does.
@ProkoTV11 ай бұрын
It really is. It takes a while to click and then suddenly- You know it!
@Stringbean113810 ай бұрын
I feel like I'm right on the edge of that epiphany haha I have moments where it clicks and I'm able to see the spacial relations/angles easily, and then it vanishes again 😅
@safaiaryu1211 ай бұрын
"Draw what you see, not what you THINK you see." This was drilled into me in college art classes, I think about it a lot!
@somerandomfatguy.338411 ай бұрын
I can't explain how hard it is to practically do. But at the same time baffling... Even replicating a shape side by side and while copying it making the proportion and placement right to get as similar result, the practice is really fun and frustrating at the same time. Truly drawing what we see rather than what we think we see is the motto for any and every artist.
@still_your_zelda11 ай бұрын
I learned this as mass gesture then moving into using organizational lines & negative space for measurement. It’s greatly improved my art over the past few years.
@rkgormgpm4pm5g5gh11 ай бұрын
measuring helps me with proportions so I use it so my drawing actually looks proportional
@seshirumakara259411 ай бұрын
When I’m using a reference (mostly from irl) I just take my glasses off or squint in order to blur the details and focus on the shapes and colour masses ^^
@AyaSmith11 ай бұрын
I want to hear more. I love that you are talking about merging intuition and strategy together 😮
@narutocross238511 ай бұрын
I really like your channel. The more I watch the more I learn, so thank you.
@BigDomski11 ай бұрын
Flipping the paper/canvas is something I've never done. It feels more comfortable to just get in to the right mindset
@mastermarkus530711 ай бұрын
When people ask for drawing advice, this is always the first thing I mention. It's important to remember what things look like if you want to draw from memory, but to get a basis for that in the first place you need to know what something really LOOKS like and not just what you THINK it looks like, stereotypically.
@lovapaint11 ай бұрын
Flipping the reference upside down is something I’ve never heard of! Might have to try it 😂
@jarosawmarchewka528011 ай бұрын
Stan is refering to Betty Edwards approach. Actually for me flipping upside down is a step of learning how to switch my brain to the visual mode. It's quite hard to convince the brain that you are not looking at an eye if it is in normal position. But going through Betty's course helps a lot to learn it do at the end you don't have to flip the reference.
@DariceDavisjprocks9411 ай бұрын
I have been waiting for an idea of where to include Betty Edwards books in my art curriculum. Thx for your comment.
@user-hh9rh4bf2q11 ай бұрын
What good teacher ❤❤❤
@greatwhitesufi11 ай бұрын
Stan is telling all y'all scrubs to git gud basically
@ShinyGallade2511 ай бұрын
I honestly never had this told to me, but at some point it just happened and now everyone is all amazed by this seeming skill, simple yet powerful. 9/10 would definitely recommend
@mr.insufferable131811 ай бұрын
The way I learned this is when I had the idea to separate these shapes into lines. When I started to not draw shapes and I copied my references per line it was seriously like an epiphany experience to me.
@aliyutube11 ай бұрын
ive been artist for 5 years now, but mostly rely on my "visual library" or things i dont see. I hope this helps me overcome that habit ;) thank you sir Stan
@Frozzfire_Blackheart11 ай бұрын
well we all know that we all started by doing the eye shape "circle"
@johnwenifedopirante97309 ай бұрын
For beginners try to flip your drawing like this: You draw: ) Then flip your drawing: ( You will see some errors to erase. To do this irl you use the light then look at your drawing, it might be frustrating if you see errors because you have to fix them but its not a big of a deal
@MixItUpWithStasia11 ай бұрын
My bring and I fight about seeing eye to eye😂😂😂 once I can get my brain and eye on the same page its smooth sailing!
@armamentarmedarm169911 ай бұрын
Pick a few key spots (corners of eyes and mouths and such), and relative heights and widths, measure and plot those, and it'll be hard to screw up too bad after that.
@Shreeshanta11 ай бұрын
Thanks it is a great help
@mpshields11 ай бұрын
Wish my eyes were as beautiful as his! 😅😍🥰😜😛❤
@shuvoDhar.553711 ай бұрын
Very helpful❤❤❤❤
@eskailerwhite.759311 ай бұрын
Nice! I thought im the only one thought of this thing
@Nachipp11 ай бұрын
i have received it
@raulcual951011 ай бұрын
I almost master drawing now but the perspective is always in the way😢. do you have a solution about it Proko?
@user-uq3vz5gi3w11 ай бұрын
Notice
@smirkii11 ай бұрын
1. learn perspective 2. construct your subject out of simple geometric shapes first so its easier to draw in perspective, then add in the anatomy/details after
@samuelusifo804611 ай бұрын
❤
@TomatoBreadOrgasm11 ай бұрын
As can another person's eyes. For example, to any novice artists out there, eyes are much smaller in proportion to the rest of the face than you think they are.
@retardigrade6911 ай бұрын
Didn't knew jesse pinkman was teaching art on youtube.
@ProkoTV11 ай бұрын
😒
@jaldobariya141511 ай бұрын
Everytime I look at his sternocleidomastoids
@danielpoot570511 ай бұрын
I always fail at getting the distance right between the brow and eyelid.
@ils11910 ай бұрын
Honestly fair enough, especially since the facial expression changes that distance so much
@jasnoorrainu11811 ай бұрын
What pencil do you use
@rxz413711 ай бұрын
Hey proko, can i ask you why you never liked the flipping upside down technique? Is there like a downside of using that technique?
@ProkoTV11 ай бұрын
It's a great technique and I still think it should be done by those who find it comfortable and most useful to them. It's just a preference of what's quickest and feels right to the individual.
@RedGallardo11 ай бұрын
I remind you that the major problem for weak artists is the thickness of the line you drew in this video is a sufficient error that makes the difference between good and bad artworks. Somehow you manage to make this line correct. I would try to do the same and it would seem like I did exactly that. But the line went half the line higher in the beginning and half the line lower in the end. And that turns everything wrong. Now I described a perfect situation where error is known. Tell me what to do when ALL the lines are in this "Schrodinger superposition" and can be right or wrong? Any parts of them can be right or wrong. So fixing may actually lead to one part going right and the right one going wrong. And the problem may be the opposing line. Like that concept of "shapes are never even on both sides, it's curved on one side and flat on the other". So... Simply curving one side of the shape changes the feeling on this shape. And thus lines that you think form it are irrelevant because the shape is formed in your brain by the perpendicular lines that you don't even consider wrong yet. And the old question: when to give up? When should I suspect I may not be physically able to ever learn that? I try for a week, I fail. Ok. A month? A year? 10 years of drawing, producing art, selling art, when is that point coming? Never? I'll always stay blind to whether I'm blind or not? Maybe everyone has the same problems. Maybe I'm the only one. Maybe half the artists experience that. How would I know?! What if THE ONLY way to learn right is to be constructed A to Z by a master? And learning alone would never work. Unless you get lucky and follow exactly the same path a master would choose for you. Because, I remind you, I'm blind until I learn and so I have to follow that path blindly. I cannot see if my learning path is right or wrong because if I did I would be a master already. And I'm not. You need a driver's license to get to where you're given a driver's license. You need to fly an airplane to get to the airport where they teach pilots. You need to be good to know what's a mistake and what's not to learn right. And that may be a lone wolf's doom. Then nothing you say matters because a newbie just need a personal teacher, not a YT guide.
@ModestToast11 ай бұрын
Lul wut
@jasnoorrainu11811 ай бұрын
Can you name it
@rajeshpd902811 ай бұрын
Third
@_sparrowhawk11 ай бұрын
"Get good at switching into that mode in my mind" - This is not advice. The reason we flip it upside down is to remove the 'logic' of symbols. You can't just dismiss symbols from your mind. :/
@sin947911 ай бұрын
It is good advice. by switching modes often enough you will train your eye to truly see without the need of flipping things upside down.
@ProkoTV11 ай бұрын
It's not for everyone! As I said in the video, this is what works for me and I present what other artists use as well. Like pretty much all methods and techniques in art, it's up to us to choose which work for us and in what situations.
@beans928811 ай бұрын
Might not work for you but I definitely can. Plus, I feel like removing the logic undermines the point of practicing…? You’d be better off practicing the logic so your understanding is better and then later down the line you can apply it to your own works much easier.
@667hodge10 ай бұрын
I don't like when artists rely on Loomis or line graphs
@drawingisrelaxing11 ай бұрын
Dose all of this also caount on painting
@ProkoTV11 ай бұрын
These concepts of measuring will also apply to doing your underlying drawing for a painting, yes.
@Kimyoski11 ай бұрын
This shows sukuna actually smarter than Gojo with the six eyes Bro does the unthinkable and gojo fans call it 3 vs 1 Y'all must be crazy cuz Megumi did nothing
@leonardhohrein992411 ай бұрын
If you want to see flaws take your art work to a window turn it around place it on the window the Sun light will show you the swalf. Flaws. Hahaha