Your Social Security Card is Insecure

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7 жыл бұрын

The Social Security card and number explained.
Special Thanks:
Stephen P. Morse, PhD. stevemorse.org
Ralph Gross, Postdoctoral Fellow, Carnegie Mellon University. peexlab.com
Alessandro Acquisti, Professor, Carnegie Mellon University
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@henryg.8762 4 жыл бұрын

bold of you to assume that my library card is less important than my social security card

@haph2087 4 жыл бұрын

knowledge is very important.

@danielvaldez9946 4 жыл бұрын

As a fellow introvert, I concur

@bahjamohamed6499 4 жыл бұрын

Daniel Valdez agreed

@hsmacaraig 4 жыл бұрын

*yes.*

@scottvelez3154 4 жыл бұрын

Facts

@TheSecondVersion 6 жыл бұрын

"There is nothing more permanent than a temporary solution." - Russian proverb

@strikerorwell9232 6 жыл бұрын

+Vito C In the UK my social security number was promised to NOT reveal any personal facts! In Sweden I have 73-08-29 0514? Its the year 1973 I was born, the month 08, the day I was born 29 th, the time 0514 in the morning? However the Swedish authorities doesnt harass their citizens and most Political decisions/discussions is open information for the people! The Swedes all together demanded the fluoride banned from their drinking water? Within a year they took it away! Despite politicians in the EU parliament refusing to let the Swedes drink their spring water tapped without poison! Now they demanded the GMO food banned from the Swedish food market!

@EpicScizor 6 жыл бұрын

Which is why gaffer tape is popular.

@PK-xe6sm 6 жыл бұрын

@Striker Orwell You, my friend, need to consult a doctor :-/

@strikerorwell9232 6 жыл бұрын

+P K To be called insane in a world of madness is a compliment. However those who knows me and read the comment above will notice its my usual sarcasm. Do you think our psychopathic leaders are sane by the way?

@PK-xe6sm 6 жыл бұрын

It depends on your definition of sanity, I'm afraid :-) Ok, sometimes they could be less stupid, but that cannot be helped because statistics. Somebody has to be on the left of the Gauss curve in most social groups and politics is no exception. Apart from that, they couldn't be possibly any different than they are now.

@jovanweismiller7114 Жыл бұрын

A funny story. I was born in 1947. I got my SS card in 1965 when I started working. One day, years later, I was working in a shop that asked for SSANs on checks. A fellow came in, wrote a check, and when I asked for his SSAN, it was one digit off mine. He'd gotten his in the same office, the same day I got mine.

@kopioshu Жыл бұрын

Cool

@Mason_8r Жыл бұрын

what are the chances of that??

@EEEEEEEE Жыл бұрын

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@meatdelivery4087 Жыл бұрын

@@Mason_8r small but not improbable, the best kind of chances

@mariox204 Жыл бұрын

@@Mason_8r doesnt seems like a 80 years old guy so VERY small

@Matty8282 3 ай бұрын

You gotta love America, the land of taking the worst possible route to achieve virtually the same goal.

@CoreySmith1200 4 жыл бұрын

Somewhere Joe Generic is wondering why his identity is being used 24/7

@jeromemanuel2247 4 жыл бұрын

@Bryan BD how much

@lanascunt 4 жыл бұрын

@Bryan BD I love doing illegal activities wanna discuss fun illegal activities we do? You first.

@bob8819 4 жыл бұрын

Juan i click on accept to all terms and conditions to sign up for a Disney newsletter without actually reading the terms and conditions 😎

@youcansave15ormoreoncarins75 4 жыл бұрын

@@lanascunt I logged on to roblox without my parents permission

@tiouklef 4 жыл бұрын

That SSN belonged to the secretary of the VP of a wallet manufacturing company. www.ssa.gov/history/ssn/misused.html

@anotheraggieburneraccount 5 жыл бұрын

So basically, we have the absolute worst system for identification possible. Got it.

@barackobama5530 5 жыл бұрын

actually, most countries in africa have the worst system. If youre born, the government wont even know

@fuzzX 4 жыл бұрын

@@barackobama5530 are you really compering america to african shithole countires?

@CharalamposKoundourakis 4 жыл бұрын

@@fuzzX I mean the USA is quite the shit hole at places.

@anthonyc4138 4 жыл бұрын

@Joaquín yep

@anthonyc4138 4 жыл бұрын

@@barackobama5530 that's false

@rustythecrown9317 Жыл бұрын

''We don't want no national card to track us , dammit'' , they're going to be pissed when they hear about phones , credit cards , bank cards etc.

@TheHouseOfWaffles 2 жыл бұрын

My university used to use the SSN as the primary student ID number -- instead of generating a random number or simply using a sequential index. My university has also always had a _lot_ of foreign students, who did not have SSNs, so fake SSNs were generated and assigned to them. Of course it wasn't long before new students with real SSNs experienced conflicts with fake SSNs already in the database. I think it was the mid-2000-oughts when my university finally switched to generated student ID numbers.

@christopherleblanc160 2 жыл бұрын

Did you by chance go to the University of Michigan? Because this sounds a lot like the University of Michigan.

@TheHouseOfWaffles 2 жыл бұрын

@@christopherleblanc160 Nope, I attended in the Western states.

@microwavegum 2 жыл бұрын

My community college use to use SSN a log in for students, but then there was a data leak. They changed it to passwords and usernames now.

@xopasstheaux6617 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah doesn't seem like the smartest thing to do but guess data leaks weren't as big a deal then

@russellaustin4988 2 жыл бұрын

Kind of proves that the leaders of the higher learning institute that you went to may not have been the smartest people. Didn't raise a bell? Well you were taught by them.

@nfistfu 4 жыл бұрын

Wait... America doesn't have a national identity card? And they use their superannuation number, printed on an regular piece of cardboard, with no picture, or address, or date of birth, or anything on it, as identification???... I have no words...

@Nikole_Raven 3 жыл бұрын

A passport / passport can be uaed as national ID.

@PedroToledo. 3 жыл бұрын

@@Nikole_Raven Not everyone have a passport. Especially in the USA.

@top_hat_walrus1860 3 жыл бұрын

Only picture ID is driver license, state ID, passport and other licenses

@joaobaptista320 3 жыл бұрын

*laughs in European civilization*

@PedroToledo. 3 жыл бұрын

@@joaobaptista320 Laughs in most countries on Earth

@chaseowens6734 3 жыл бұрын

Ah yes, the opposite of Joe Exotic, Joe Generic

@grayk02 3 жыл бұрын

His straight laced, rule abiding, completely non-tiger owning alter-ego

@OrangeC7 3 жыл бұрын

@Cybernaut551 3 жыл бұрын

@@OrangeC7Me: Joe You: Joe who? Me: Joeboma ^_^

@kinger8471 3 жыл бұрын

And right in between: Joe uncommon

@bodaciousdoggo8971 3 жыл бұрын

Joesph Generic

@Connorthecatsdad Жыл бұрын

This makes me want to get a social insecurity card to show to people to let them know that sometimes I get anxious in crowds and conversations

@Azul_247 Жыл бұрын

it would just be the same numbers, backwords

@RespawnRestricted 2 жыл бұрын

In all my years I never remember a national ID card ever being a hot topic in any political campaign

@dcarbs2979 Жыл бұрын

It has been in UK. The idea was proposed and heavily rejected under Gordon Brown but kept cropping up for a short time around his election.

@jixer1956 Жыл бұрын

@@dcarbs2979 Do Brits not already have one?

@dcarbs2979 Жыл бұрын

@@jixer1956 Not one single centralised one, no. Many forms are accepted as ID (driving license, passport, bank card with some photo ID, bus pass, student pass, and a type of voluntary ID card). The latter is mostly for teenagers that want to have none of the above and used for alcohol and club entry. We also have the equivalent card (National Insurance / NI card) that simply has our number on it, but is not allowed for ID as it has no government issued photo. The number stays with you for life and identifies your tax, benefit and pay status to the government. While it is important, it is not as much of a security risk as it is always used in conjunction with one of the other ID's. Nor do you ever *need* the physical card, as the number is cross-referenced on the government databases. I used it in a finance company to identify otherwise similar individuals (2 John Smiths with the same birthday, for example).

@Braedown Жыл бұрын

It's more known as a Voter ID or something similar

@DerpyDaringDitzyDoo Жыл бұрын

Well that's because most of the time they just call it a "Voter's ID". Which is literally just, an ID that proves you're a US citizen. It would have a photo of you, a unique number, and only be given to those who can prove their citizenship. It literally would just be a national ID card, something to prove that you are you. But, because politics, they always frame it has having to do with voting. Most of the people I know that are against it is because it would have this unique number, therefore making your votes much easier to track, and therefore potentially undermining the right to have your vote be private. It come sup pretty much every presidential election, they just don't talk about it between terms because it doesn't benefit the politics and would cost a lot of money to start a program like that.

@Zerbey 3 жыл бұрын

The fun part was when I fist immigrated to the USA and being denied a loan because they said my SSN was only a few months old so I didn't qualify. I had to then go through a whole silly process of proving I was an adult.

@arseface2k934 3 жыл бұрын

now, before we give you this loan, are you SURE you're not an infant?

@nylajereb4523 3 жыл бұрын

Banker: ok you want loan? You: yes Banker: how do i know your not 3 kids in a trenchcoat?!

@flamingfoxx 3 жыл бұрын

"Hi I'm an adult can I have money please" "Idk man this says you're three months old"

@unoriginalname1 3 жыл бұрын

I mean, your KZfaq account is only 13 years old, so your only 13 right? Im just an infant who’s 2.

@ambi_cc8464 3 жыл бұрын

Whoa hold on, we have no evidence that up to this point you haven’t been a minor because your record has only been made a few months ago, we can’t have infants getting loans can we? Lol

@NetScourge 4 жыл бұрын

No joke I was able to guess my sister's SSN because of this video lol. We were born a minute apart in the same hospital

@isaacjesuroga829 2 жыл бұрын

what was it?

@laquoia 2 жыл бұрын

@@isaacjesuroga829 yeah and also whats your credit card number

@slayd3378 2 жыл бұрын

Oh boy, it's extortion time.

@paperempire2655 2 жыл бұрын

@@Asutoro we need the expiration date also

@MasterGX 2 жыл бұрын

Oh boy….

@WindStreak_ Жыл бұрын

3:12 love how landlords are represented by someone who's angry. No other defining features, they're just angry at you

@michaeladkins6 Жыл бұрын

I remember signing up at a temporary employment agency. They wanted the social security number for identification and didnt think twice about reading the number off out loud in a crowded room to get your attention that they were ready for an interview.

@konakg8174 4 жыл бұрын

"You can always depend on Americans to do the right thing...after they have exhausted all other options"

@seanshin1615 4 жыл бұрын

Winston Churchill

@temporarychannelname8620 4 жыл бұрын

@@seanshin1615 Ehhhh.... Not true. Theres no record of him saying the quote.

@robertlaube574 4 жыл бұрын

Replace "americans" with "any person, anywhere" and you wouldn't be totally full of shit.

@tortex1 4 жыл бұрын

@@strangelyukrainian7314 There are people who would say anything can be solved by explosives. Just saying.

@kaleidoscope5054 4 жыл бұрын

@PotatoTornado whoa, smart

@ionlymadethistoleavecoment1723 7 жыл бұрын

I'd like to stress that it's made of paper. And it's really bad if you get it wet.

@neuromorph 7 жыл бұрын

its designed to be easily damaged/destroyed, so it cant be used if found. thats why they tell you not to laminate it.

@ionlymadethistoleavecoment1723 7 жыл бұрын

neuromorph don't make it easily destroyable. It's not only a federal document, but a REALLY important federal document. What you want to do is add security features to it. Make it like a license.

@mikelitoris8809 7 жыл бұрын

Ionlymadethistoleavecomments A replacement is like $5. All you have to do is provide proof of identity.

@Renozuken_ 7 жыл бұрын

And if you have no proof of identity? what do they ask for when you attempt to get one?

@broodypie2216 7 жыл бұрын

Renozuken they ask for everything, more than once, takes months, and can easily ruin years of progress

@piccolo54trunks2 Жыл бұрын

Fun fact: if you're a twin like me, your social security numbers are most likely one digit apart. Not so fun fact: this causes a lot of problems involving your SSN because they're not so easy to identify apparently. True story: my twin had insurance quotes that soared to the thousands. When he called the company, it was because they believed my twin and I were the same person (so all our traffic infractions added up together); they were only able to separate us based on our drivers' ID. I also got a call from a credit card company, saying that I had a pending balance when it was clearly my twin's account because I, myself, did not have a credit card. So yeah, the SSN system sucks for us

@randomfella8448 Жыл бұрын

I knew a pair of twins that had a similar story involving the Fasfa (financial aid).

@alden9086 Жыл бұрын

I can confirm this. My SSN and my twin's SSN is one digit off. Its kind of funny because my brother did not know his SSN off the top of his head, so my parents used to ask me for his SSN when we were younger. Or when he forgot his SSN.

@WyvernYT Жыл бұрын

It's not just twins. My sister's SSN is one off from mine, because when we were teenagers our mother realized she needed to do the paperwork and applied for both of us at the same time.

@vex6633 Жыл бұрын

As a german, the US's governmental decision are hilariously wierd. Then again, I dont know enough by own government to confidently say that we aren't doing something just as wierd sometimes

@markmcculfor6113 Жыл бұрын

the German government has done some.... wacky stuff in the past XD jkjk I know it's not y'alls responsibility for what happened a long time ago with a different government.

@kirisummer Жыл бұрын

2022 Undiversified gas dependency incident

@littlefriend123 Жыл бұрын

Your government based the majority of your energy supply on imports from Russia while being an active member in NATO.. an alliance formed entirely against Russia.. and then was shocked when Russia pulled some Russia type moves and your energy supply got kanked

@mateuszweyna7309 Жыл бұрын

@@littlefriend123 well, so did most of Europe

@bewitchedraven6763 Жыл бұрын

germany when they ban nuclear (they now have to dig for coal because their green energy is too expensive and unreliable)

@youngmasterzhi 3 жыл бұрын

(Un)fun fact: When Social Security was first introduced, some people would tattoo their social security numbers on their skin, fearing that they would end up forgeting it

@happyfacefries 3 жыл бұрын

@@nicolefischer1504 he didn't ask either

@vulpes7079 3 жыл бұрын

Imagine hooking up with someone and now they have your SSN

@whatthefridge1o1 3 жыл бұрын

Mood

@chanceadams5157 3 жыл бұрын

I’m so confused about these comments ⬆️

@edenparedesnevarez488 3 жыл бұрын

@@chanceadams5157 Same

@vlogbrothers 7 жыл бұрын

The United States: A nation with a national ID card that isn't a national ID card, and a public health care system that isn't a public health care system. Great video! -John

@tobehonest7457 7 жыл бұрын

vlogbrothers HIIIIIIIII JOHNNNN

@a.t.1011 7 жыл бұрын

vlogbrothers JOHN

@RhythmAssistedPoetry 7 жыл бұрын

.... :(

@sjoerdwennekes 7 жыл бұрын

@OALXI 7 жыл бұрын

Hi John! :D

@JadeLockpicker Жыл бұрын

having had family lose their _full_ SSN in a security breach _of_ a government institution, can we _please_ get a better system for this in place? because, more infuriating then all of the above? having your number _literally stolen_ is not a reason for Social Security Administration to assign you a new one. Stop and read that a few times. Now think about what happens if any other card with a number used to ID you gets looted in your life. _yeah_

@mateuszweyna7309 Жыл бұрын

I don't understand why Americans don't have any real id? Like what is the reason?

@sander9951 Жыл бұрын

@@mateuszweyna7309because freedom

@janejan9728 Жыл бұрын

When I applied for unemployment at one point, the unemployment office already had someone using my number. They casually mentioned this to me, before telling me not to worry about it. They approved my unemployment shortly thereafter.

@Oxidization00 5 жыл бұрын

"they just need your time and location of birth" hey is that what all those astrology sites ask for? haha............. 😦

@solomonsodipe6669 4 жыл бұрын

Oxidization00 damn lol

@janinerodriguez4893 4 жыл бұрын

Corey Playz 😂

@joned1000 4 жыл бұрын

Corey Playz you mean a myth

@DragonSodaDrawings 4 жыл бұрын

@Slumerican Mystik i don't believe in astrology but i just wanna clarify that zodiac signs arent based off of the months exactly lol. take aries, which starts around the 20th of march and extends halfway into april

@ComradeHellas 4 жыл бұрын

ROFL

@EINSTEINIUMEPICNESS 6 жыл бұрын

Can I point out that the number Grey used for Joe Generic is a valid number issued in New York between 1936 and 1950

@Mr__Joe 5 жыл бұрын

Oh my!

@lucabrandalesi6743 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah that explains wtf is going on with this system. And I'm still not sure why Americans don't want an identification card like every first world country

@suprtroopr1028 5 жыл бұрын

@@lucabrandalesi6743 I don't understand it either. The only thing I could think people could find issue with would be the manor of information that could be attached to that one card. Granted, thats literally what already happens with your SSN... stubbornness? Im going to go with stubbornness.

@blobfishchin 5 жыл бұрын

@@ordinarychef we don't even care anymore, but apparently we still do

@Lambda_Ovine 5 жыл бұрын

He kind of doxed somebody.

@dijikstra8 Жыл бұрын

Such a bizarre system. In Sweden we have national ID numbers, consisting essentially of your date of birth followed by four digits, the last of which is a checksum. Finding a valid number is not very hard (they're not even secret), but also doesn't really do much, an ID number alone is not a form of identification.

@dorissaclaire 2 жыл бұрын

I had no idea people didn’t used to have social security numbers since birth…it’s always seemed crazy to me you are supposed to keep track of one single piece of paper literally since birth.

@TheRighanRed 7 жыл бұрын

And with this video, grey has reached his upload quota for the entire year.

@Fragica0Because 7 жыл бұрын

I mean he does have a life, plus having high personal standards which all his videos must live up.

@Rose_Harmonic 7 жыл бұрын

lol

@shawn5346 7 жыл бұрын

I forgot who he was, I thought this was Casually Explained.

@AbudBakri 7 жыл бұрын

And that's where I come in...

@theamhway 7 жыл бұрын

Ikr... And look, already a million views... No one even unsubs...

@blumac9801 4 жыл бұрын

Fun Fact: Don't give your social security number to Microsoft tech support.

@stuartd9741 4 жыл бұрын

Why?

@randy4443 4 жыл бұрын

Stuart D scammers. They don’t work for Microsoft

@masonsilvers6789 4 жыл бұрын

@@randy4443 thats true.

@jeretoon8350 4 жыл бұрын

Stuart D r/woooosh

@yukiko5819 4 жыл бұрын

Im not from the US so im curious. What happens if you give it to them?.

@ReubenAStern Жыл бұрын

In England we have a national security number. It's very similar. It says it's not ID on the front, but the "authorities" will use it as ID whenever it suits them.

@AwokenEntertainment 2 жыл бұрын

Wow it's crazy when you find out things like this that aren't really at all what they're talked up to be..

@M4tchStickGirl 4 жыл бұрын

I have a HUGE problem where my physically abusive mentally ill birth mother refused to hand over my documents (and SS card) when I left. 4 years of tax fraud and 7 years of stalking followed, leading up to one restraining order and a court ruling for her to hand them over. Guess who feigned ignorance with the classic “I have no idea what you’re talking about?” That followed another case of fraud- medical insurance, and a violation of HIPAA- and an unbelievably easy way for her to track me down using the SSN. Mind you, the SSN is a very easy 9-digit number for her to remember even if police one day manages to remove the documents from her possession. Years and years later, I am ironically trying to convince the SSA that the SSN is a VERY important number that shouldn’t be in the hands of a mentally ill abuser that has attempted to find and kill me.

@marissaa8734 7 жыл бұрын

"There are security reasons you shouldn't... YOINK"

@rev_dude 6 жыл бұрын

2:16 You're welcome Mic drop Mic catch because mics are expensive

@bananya6020 6 жыл бұрын

Rev_dude not really compared to other stuff; software costs way more

@TheSpecialJ11 6 жыл бұрын

Hey, I like that color

@liuner2479 5 жыл бұрын

Electroblade that's why they invented "Cracks"

@donovanb8247 5 жыл бұрын

Electroblade yeah but I wouldn't drop pro tools either.

@homfri111 2 жыл бұрын

i remember the pain in the ass it was to get my SS card reprinted because i invalidated it by having it laminated. I thought protecting it from flood or water damage was a smart thing, SSA said other wise, and when your number card is invalid to the govt but not business you go through the pain of having a reprint, which only pisses one off more when one of the options at the time was a rigid plastic card thats just a cardboard card sandwiched between some plastic....

@lmnop29 2 жыл бұрын

I too never understood why protecting such an important and *very fragile* document is considered bad.

@novacolonel5287 Жыл бұрын

Greetings from Germany, where I'm proudly looking at my current ID card, issued by the federal government, heir of a centuries-old tradition of ID cards designed to identify citizens. It's unique, coded, laminated, credit card sized, with biometric features, basic information about me and my primary place of residence, photograph and enables me to cross the border to all Schengen countries without needing a passport. :D

@gigirauchut1882 Жыл бұрын

I, as a disillusioned American, envy you so much

@auxilia5506 Жыл бұрын

Ah, German passports are great. I just had to apply for a new one because mine is about to expire. I´m looking forwart to finally have the function for online identification enabled. :D

@rydaguy_1 3 жыл бұрын

i don’t know why i found this so funny but i nearly died at “You got a John Smith?” “Go Fish.”

@thelocalnecromancer1224 2 жыл бұрын

Uh... help. I don't get it.

@ikatulo_yt 2 жыл бұрын

@@thelocalnecromancer1224 I'm guessing cause John/Jim Smith are Insanely common names and Go Fish is a game where you match cards?

@davidqharmon7311 2 жыл бұрын

@@thelocalnecromancer1224 brainlet

@mariox204 2 жыл бұрын

@@ikatulo_yt if you want a create a story and include an US person need to incluse one john or one smith

@Oneamongthelegion Жыл бұрын

You called?

@sofiacontreras5930 5 жыл бұрын

I recently tried getting a driver's permit (in Ohio). I brought in my passport, state ID (CA state ID), and proof of Ohio residency. I wasn't able to get that driver's permit, though, because I needed my social security card. I was able to apply for a replacement card online and got the card a few days ago. It is literally just a slip of paper. Not even cardboard. Why is this slip of paper considered such an important piece of identification when it isn't supposed to be one and isn't able to do that job well! Ugh.

@jmanko 4 жыл бұрын

W2 form would have worked also instead of the social security card. That's what I used for my license because my social security card is laminated and the DMV wouldn't take it. But you had a passport already meaning you didn't need the new TSA approved license. You can use your passport to get through the TSA checkpoint when you fly.

@CristianCiupitu 4 жыл бұрын

@ukkr what's the problem with "REAL ID"?

@breaklux3823 4 жыл бұрын

@ukkr you do realize that most countries already have IDs with secure numbers for their citizens, right?

@mainwayne1352 4 жыл бұрын

Five years ago when I went to renew my drivers license in Colorado. They would not accept my drivers license as a form of ID. I needed to come back the next day with a piece of mail that was addressed to me. My drivers license was accepted everywhere, except the place that issued it.

@kristyann9912 4 жыл бұрын

@@mainwayne1352 😂😂😂😂😂Unbelievable!!!

@danielponder690 2 жыл бұрын

Some of this has changed to the system he describes now. Also, I was born abroad and came over aged 4, but wasn’t registered immediately upon arrival but months after coming. So observant loan underwriters do notice the discrepancy of the age of birth versus the SSN registration date

@banker4468 Жыл бұрын

Why does America always want to be different?

@dogsofwar157 4 жыл бұрын

Learning about social security cards from a KZfaq video because your public school is to useless .

@youcansave15ormoreoncarins75 4 жыл бұрын

That's why you go to a school not ran by the government. The teachers at charter schools are more interesting and are more passionate at there job than 75 percent of the teachers at public schools

@flexican5399 4 жыл бұрын

Camdyn Standley you don’t need school for this, wtf? It’s just a card that now can also work as a form of ID, and you need it for retirement, anyone’s parents will tell them if they asked.

@aellyalwardi 4 жыл бұрын

Did they also not teach you the proper uses of “to” and “too”

@youcansave15ormoreoncarins75 4 жыл бұрын

@@aellyalwardi Yeah, but I guess she or he didn't listen

@uruiamnot 4 жыл бұрын

In your free time, could you please watch a KZfaq video to learn how to write a sentence?

@digitalfootballer9032 5 жыл бұрын

I lamenated mine when I was about 12 years old. Fast forward about 20 years...notices "do not laminate" on card...oops.

@muchozolf 5 жыл бұрын

Steve "Do not laminate" "Not to be used as an identity card" What the hell is wrong?

@TheRiiiight 5 жыл бұрын

It's actually so in the case of getting lost the paper it's printed on will hopefully dissolve away before someone else can find it. It's basically the one security feature it has lol.

@seanf1268 5 жыл бұрын

I laminated mine too. Fuck the ss

@seanf1268 5 жыл бұрын

I hope someone steals my ID and have fun

@flinch622 5 жыл бұрын

You should lament your social security card: future payments are corrupted by unrelenting under adjustment where inflation is concerned. That's one reason energy is left out of the most common government inflation stats: it is accurate/resets on a rolling daily basis, and the program can't afford to keep up with real inflation. So not only is the recipient going to be underpaid, but you will be "means tested" to boot - that "income" [which is effectively just a refund of monies paid] will push any other money you come across into a higher tax bracket. Thank Bill Clinton for getting that snowball rolling, then thank Obama while you're at it: as the fed hit the nitrous on printing and distributing billions [mostly overseas to disguise the event, knowing that would come back to the stock market], the proposal put to congress at a time of concentrating the lions share of inflation into the stock market was to freeze COLA to ss recipients. In real dollar terms... that was a cut. Compare that to progs screaming about Newt planning on 4% increases vs. 7% when he was speaker and... at no time should a government program be considered a place of safety. In the event of a real emergency, bureaucracy stays while benefits get cut.

@cg0825 Жыл бұрын

We used to use our SSN as our college ID and it was printed right on there. That was the mid 1990's when the internet was just starting to become a thing. Now just about every school (I hope) has done away with that practice. The college ID's we had were basically laminated cards nothing like today and thinking back they were incredibly insecure even by that era's standards.

@cg0825 Жыл бұрын

Jobs still ask for a social security card and driver's license when you are hired but in lieu of that you can use a US passport number. I have my card stored away somewhere I am not even sure I could tell you where it is right now.

@kingvinoda3896 Жыл бұрын

When almost every other democracy in the world has some form of citizen ID the American people are just petty.

@bpierce2100 7 жыл бұрын

Ahhhh I see my that bi-annual edition of CGP Grey content has arrived

@FactHubREAL 7 жыл бұрын

Ikr I thought he was dead lol

@colormorado1699 7 жыл бұрын

FactHub deseo

@Brydude87 7 жыл бұрын

this is very confusing( which no wonder I saw this video too much) and I finally know why my social security is important

@fuckoff7459 7 жыл бұрын

FactHub no but you getting closer

@musicalofethics 7 жыл бұрын

omg

@bonnie.f 3 жыл бұрын

Fun fact- I didn't get a SSN until I was 3, when my little brother was born, and my parents got our numbers at the same time, so his number is the one directly after mine. Kinda fun knowing someone else's birthday and SSN....

@rachele3334 3 жыл бұрын

I had a co-worker that we found out was born a few days after my husband at the same hospital, so their social security numbers are only a few numbers off. Sometimes I would ask her what his number was when I needed to fill something out cause I can never remember his!

@InsertName69 2 жыл бұрын

My dad has the same situation, except there was no twin and they’re a year apart.

@briabree7683 2 жыл бұрын

@@rachele3334 you really having people who isn't family have that kind of access to your HUSBAND'S SSN number? Crazy..

@colgatemodel18 2 жыл бұрын

This exact same thing happened with my dad, his brother and sister

@saintjames8018 2 жыл бұрын

My brother and I received ours at 16 and we are exactly 1 number apart. :)

@DJBigMac209 2 жыл бұрын

I'm so glad I watched until the end, because when I saw Kifflom I instantly started laughing because a handful of people are going to get the reference and the rest will now be looking on youtube "What is kifflom?". Love the great video

@NarutoUzumaki-rl5yl 2 жыл бұрын

The last 15 seconds are the best description of something I’ve ever heard

@AbudBakri 7 жыл бұрын

Social Security doesn't make me very feel very secure...or very social for that matter.

@JJRicks 6 жыл бұрын

Dr.StickFigure you again

@neilisbored2177 6 жыл бұрын

And it definitely doesn't make me feel number.

@VoodooV1 6 жыл бұрын

That's probably something you should see a shrink about. Don't blame the gov't for your problems.

@hoseadavit3422 5 жыл бұрын

Kinda like the Holy Roman Empire

@RoryRose_ 5 жыл бұрын

But does it make you feel card?

@jerrywigginsii2547 4 жыл бұрын

It's a trust fund. The problem is, there's no trust, and there's no fund

@rketkar5458 3 жыл бұрын

Wtf is going on America

@jerrywigginsii2547 3 жыл бұрын

Same shit different day?

@cheeze5875 3 жыл бұрын

At this point social security is basicly a ponzi scheme that somehow creates an infinite amount of welfare with no changes to how much it takes in. Its why im really happy to be in that special group of railroad workers that gray mentioned. Same idea but without all the government inefficientes so i know my money will actually still be there.

@BigDaddyWes 3 жыл бұрын

So my Grandparents collecting SS checks are getting fake money?

@jerrywigginsii2547 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, on multiple levels. 1 the dollar is BS at this point. 2 that's not the money they were told they were saving. That money was gone long ago, they're getting the money I'm being told I'm saving

@maucazalv903 Жыл бұрын

I always wondered why between certain personal information people wanted to hide their birthday (at least in American cartoons it was like that), "there are thousands of people born on that exact date, what useful information could someone get to use against you?" *now I get it, at least for the US people it makes a lot of sense to hide it xd*

@jixer1956 Жыл бұрын

As an American, I literally just realized that.

@Hansgame Жыл бұрын

i found your channel yd, and binged all your videos. they are from years ago but still up to date and very well made. thank you !

@CoolQuokka 7 жыл бұрын

Holy shit! This guy's taking Roy off the grid! This guy doesn't have a social security card for Roy!

@latetoevolve 7 жыл бұрын

We're out of off white Persians

@Jackdarkgem22 7 жыл бұрын

Never go back to the carpet store!

@CarrieFisherman 7 жыл бұрын

Damn it Morty, you only lived for 68 years!

@zac9311 7 жыл бұрын

this is what the comment section was made for. this is good stuff. stop trying to host a formal debate, thats not what its for and youre only encoraging deviciveness. gg tho quokka, made me laugh

@camperben 7 жыл бұрын

Don't thrash my Roy score man....

@bmobmo6438 4 жыл бұрын

A national number for a people that doesn't want one, on an id card that fails at id, given to everyone, except when it isn't, for a program that's universal, except when it's not. That sums this thing up pretty well.

@KryptKicker5 4 жыл бұрын

Such is the nature of government.

@meferswift 4 жыл бұрын

@@KryptKicker5 *USA and some extra.

@curtmacquarrie 3 жыл бұрын

@@KryptKicker5 Such is the nature of the US government you mean. Nobody else has this issue.

@sebastianjost 3 жыл бұрын

@@curtmacquarrie there are always exceptions in the real world. The US's social security numbers just are a particularly bad example.

@rexpigott2406 3 жыл бұрын

Get on line to get replacement social security car

@chanmarr8118 2 жыл бұрын

That would explain why I came across someone who had a similar SSN to mine at one of my jobs. Our bdays were close too, at least, born the same year. Also met a couple from another country that had a one number difference between them, the last one. That’s when I realized you could probably guess a valid SSN.

@SquareoftheLightOnes 2 жыл бұрын

If you have a twin sibling, then their social security number will be your social security number with the last digit having a difference of one.

@zombieslayer1468 2 жыл бұрын

probably

@militustoica 3 жыл бұрын

Until recently, SSNs also served as military service numbers for everyone in the US Armed Forces. I wish that had never been the case. Myself and many people I know ended up giving ours out so constantly and casually that tens of thousands or more a year had their identities stolen.

@ThisisFerrariKhan 2 жыл бұрын

Don’t forget we got our information stolen TWICE. I got the letter in the mail two years straight from two different incidents during the time from 2014 to 2016.

@bane4743 2 жыл бұрын

Ohh I see you got the letter as well too.

@RestoVette 2 жыл бұрын

We still do this, I be giving my last 4 over the phone every time I need to schedule anything or receive any medical info 🙄

@sirclarkmarz 2 жыл бұрын

it would be so much more efficient if we all just took the mark of the beast

@rottie615 2 жыл бұрын

Yep, I lost my dog tags with my SSN on them 😖

@lukemurphy7917 3 жыл бұрын

In Ireland we have passports, passport cards, drivers license but not really a identity card, when proving I’m 18 at pubs and nightclubs I always use my out of date passport (even tho I was about 9 in it ) always gets a laugh from the bouncers which helps get in

@oz_jones 2 жыл бұрын

Same thing in America - no NATIONAL id cards

@Larsino2000 2 жыл бұрын

Passport card and drivers license are both ID cards.

@Nexus9118 2 жыл бұрын

@@Larsino2000 He is taking about national ID card.

@Larsino2000 2 жыл бұрын

@@Nexus9118 you need to learn that a passport, passport card and drivers lucense are all a form of ID and are all supplied by your goverment on a national level. All 3 are a national ID. A passport is not a ID card but more a ID book because its not a card.

@Abi-bi6cb 2 жыл бұрын

@@Larsino2000 yes but there isn't a single national ID system. Passports are issued by the embassy and vary depending on your nationality, whilst driving licences are issued by a separate agency and not everyone has one. Same in the UK too.

@nalee2788 Жыл бұрын

Gasp, the US have done something in the worst way possible Such surprise, I feel so omgged

@KyuubiNaruto41 2 жыл бұрын

All I know about my card is it didn't take long to reach a washer after being trusted to have it, still in one piece amazingly enough, and now I know how the numbers were created. Though with how the numbers are determined I'm surprised they haven't had issues with copies yet or maybe they keep going until they get a number not in use.

@alyssapaull2128 6 жыл бұрын

"Yoink!"

@ArgKaiser 6 жыл бұрын

2:16

@brockbanda5992 6 жыл бұрын

alyssa paull I gave you the 1,000th like

@karenhuntington9783 6 жыл бұрын

Dawson Ditzler yep

@shaangraham 6 жыл бұрын

2:17

@m7bline403 5 жыл бұрын

More like Zoinks scoob

@NeverEverTM 4 жыл бұрын

This sounds like that ID card i made as a kid when i was roleplaying with some kids that was made of a piece of paper and some writing with my name and age

@error-not-found7415 3 жыл бұрын

even yours made as a kid is better than the social security number system.

@joaobaptista320 3 жыл бұрын

@@error-not-found7415 He's smarter then the Congress

@bricefleckenstein9666 Жыл бұрын

2:25 The REAL reason the IRS got to use the SSN *FROM DAY ONE* more or less is that they are the ones that collect Social Security TAXES (from both employers AND employees). Therefore at least part of their usage IS in fact directly Social Security related.

@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor Жыл бұрын

Here in Australia, we don't have a national ID card either. We use our drivers' licenses or even passports for identification.

@mirzaahmed6589 Жыл бұрын

Plenty of countries don't.

@leirawhitehart1236 4 жыл бұрын

You know, I always wondered what social security cards were for and why they were so important, because honestly, I don't think my mom knows. She just always told me that it was important, but never why. And school sure as heck didn't teach me what it is, what it is for, or why it is so important, so, here I am. Learning about something so important on KZfaq, like it's a fun fact.

@maximsarmanov 2 жыл бұрын

they are not important. Only the number is.

@stayswervin554 2 жыл бұрын

It’s a tax identification number that your parents volunteered knowingly or unknowingly.

@loganwidener4811 Жыл бұрын

I'm a adult and I didn't know School failed me

@alfalafelstine1536 7 жыл бұрын

Please take a moment of silence, in honour of the Great Tax Child Genocide...

@WilliamHaisch 2 жыл бұрын

Older people would write or carve their SSN on home stereo equipment, computer equipment, and other expensive things. Why? So they could prove it belongs to them in case it was ever stolen! Interesting to note, this was usually medium priced items, not expensive “durable goods” like automobiles, dish washers, clothes dryers, couches, or hot water heaters.

@Kyle_v2 2 жыл бұрын

5:07 mines not even cardboard it is just paper lmao

@ourtalechara9341 2 жыл бұрын

"And the last four digits just count up in order." *Pain*

@amaureaLua Жыл бұрын

That's not the real problem, though. The problem is that the number is used as a *password*, where simply knowing it is taken as proof that you're that person. If it were just a label, as it was supposed to be, then it wouldn't matter that it's predictable and publicly known.

@WateverWatever04 6 жыл бұрын

Damn, you just giving out Joe Generic's SIN number like that? Tsk smh

@merrittanimation7721 6 жыл бұрын

WateverWatever04 I know right? Some people...

@demonride15 5 жыл бұрын

He could of changed his social.

@jameshurley615 5 жыл бұрын

How rude

@user-xb9yv2ci4c 5 жыл бұрын

I still didn't get, why it is such a problem, if others know your number.

@ytu8080 5 жыл бұрын

0000000 0000000 are you 2 years old? It controls your freaking life

@PigsCanFIy 2 жыл бұрын

Just discovered you and you had me cracking up the entire video

@sirclarkmarz 2 жыл бұрын

if you're a member of the military your SSN is also your primary identification number it appears on your dog tag as well

@aidan3321 5 жыл бұрын

He called the dude “Joe Generic”. He should’ve been called “Gene Eric”

@LeglessWonder 4 жыл бұрын

Was thinking Jenn Neric

@herrscherofsweets9583 4 жыл бұрын

How about "Genea Rick"

@leeoswald668 4 жыл бұрын

It's like an Easter egg everywhere Dear typical and regular John Doe

@disembodiednarrator 4 жыл бұрын

*JULY 28 INTENSIFIES*

@jw4277 3 жыл бұрын

Jean rick

@fordtechchris 2 жыл бұрын

Fun fact, social security was designed to pay out one year after the national life expectancy. Thus the program was only designed to help people who accidentally lived too long and be another cash grab from everyone else.

@SandfordSmythe 2 жыл бұрын

Life expectancy means half of the people.

@fordtechchris 2 жыл бұрын

@@SandfordSmythe and screw the other half that pay but will never get paid ;-)

@hardtruthnotsoftlies5706 2 жыл бұрын

It's NOT a "cash tran" because it's EARNED money by those who WORKED & PAID Federal taxes! 🙄

@sd-ch2cq 2 жыл бұрын

That's how tontines have been working for centuries: everyone pays in, and the longest-lived individuals get the whole amount

@Jerry_F 2 жыл бұрын

The social security is legit a scam,

@thatzaliasguy 2 жыл бұрын

The "Not for identification" text was moved to the back of the Social Security card, not removed.

@a.d.t.mapping8792 3 жыл бұрын

"Lastly, it must have existed continuously since 1950." Welp, time to go to the Time Machine.

@SasNolan 3 жыл бұрын

Say that it comes from yr grandfather and he never registered it. Then ask yr family to pretend they are all into it. And just see what happens next out of lulz.

@BatkoNashBandera774 2 жыл бұрын

ask Guy Pierce to borrow his ;)

@a.d.t.mapping8792 2 жыл бұрын

@@SasNolan "Hey, your grandfather looks exactly like you in this picture"

@LurkerPlus 2 жыл бұрын

@@BatkoNashBandera774 - I know the film reference you're making there, but this wouldn't work, because he's Australian :-)

@aryanb8700 3 жыл бұрын

6:13 Took me a 4 years to notice that that's the logo from The Episilon Programme in GTA V

@SnoFitzroy 2 жыл бұрын

"Programme"

@minorcomet282 2 жыл бұрын

Kifflom!

@zaferryt4987 2 жыл бұрын

I Nocticed it imeatitaly

@VonLanzeloth Жыл бұрын

What’s really the benefit of not having an ID I don’t get it ?

@doctoraims493 Жыл бұрын

Maybe can not open bank account ( i am not American)

@dougdimmadome331 2 жыл бұрын

Kifflom brotha!!! May Kraft be with you always 🙏🙏🙏

@user-kl1tb4er7j 7 жыл бұрын

This is what I love about this channel. His videos have so much information in such a short video. And he covers topics I never would have thought to research.

@missm8067 3 жыл бұрын

2:51 “Really? You’ve been... busy.” 😂😂😂

@michaelpepper821 Жыл бұрын

Nothing like having a national identification card with self esteem issues

@King_of_Cards 2 жыл бұрын

thanks for teaching me how to guss credit card numbers

@thebravezombies 7 жыл бұрын

Social security cards are flimsy pieces of paper so that when eaten, they will break down much more easily than laminated cards.

@mindlessreader1595 7 жыл бұрын

TheBraveZombies wtf

@Karreth 7 жыл бұрын

Why would you eat your social security card?

@kg959 7 жыл бұрын

Oddly, he's actually halfway correct. The card has instructions on it that say "Do not laminate" because if you lose the card, they want it to biodegrade quickly so nobody else will get a hold of it. I'm not sure eating was part of the decision making process, but it's technically correct, which is the best kind of correct.

@thebravezombies 7 жыл бұрын

They send out free ones. You can just keep eating them and getting new ones to also eat. A never ending food source.

@orangedalmatian 6 жыл бұрын

I wonder what's the nutritional value of cardboard and ink.

@ibrahim0830 4 жыл бұрын

Damn that Joe Generic guy really got his social security number exposed.

@kevindao1103 3 жыл бұрын

This puts the Lifelock’s guys number look like chump change.

@SourceCod33 Жыл бұрын

My work uses the last 4 of our social as the key we use to clock in and do anything on the computer…. And the last four of every supervisor or above are listed on a sticky note right next to the computer

@waffleface5940 2 жыл бұрын

I did not know this and felt safer not knowing. Thanks for adding this to my list of topics to cry over.

@bertkarlsson1605 7 жыл бұрын

FINALLY A CGP GREY VIDEO

@prod.mohomid 7 жыл бұрын

Bert Karlsson ikr

@gilbertoscapini9063 7 жыл бұрын

Bert Karlsson 4 months later u will writh this again

@9uvq0ephq9p8 7 жыл бұрын

(that's not a podcast)

@bertkarlsson1605 7 жыл бұрын

Дарина Рябова Well That's obviously a virus...

@masterphoenixharp8047 6 жыл бұрын

Bert Karlsson I

@trumpetperson11 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for getting me worried about something I have no control over. I definitely needed that.

@deus_ex_machina_ 2 жыл бұрын

If it helps you feel any better, here are some possible doomsday scenario that could occur without warning, that you or I can do nothing about: 1. Antibiotic resistant superbugs could show up that kill millions a year, sending us back to the days where infectious diseases was the №1 cause of death, and killed 1/5 of children under five. 2. An asteroid could destroy civilization as we know it. 3. A supervolcano could erupt, blanketing huge swathes of the sky with thick ash that blocks out the sun, leading to disruption of satellite communications and global famine, since plants can't perform photosynthesis. 4. A CME (coronal mass ejection) could destroy all electronics, leading to, at least, tens of thousands of deaths of people who were on life support, and millions of deaths from people who can't heat or cool their homes. Having your identity stolen doesn't seem so bad, right?

@michaeldavis5497 2 жыл бұрын

Very Informative and I loved the gta reverence at the end

@natashanonnattive4818 2 жыл бұрын

It's against Federal Law to use the SSCARD number for ID. It also belongs to the SS ORG, which we are allowed to use in commerce. It is a FICTION SYSTEM

@ghirmaym.mengesteab8673 7 жыл бұрын

"hello asterisk my old friend" I think that grey just started a UN/EU meme.

@lorrainewilliams7896 6 жыл бұрын

It would make a great t-shirt.

@janesmith7243 6 жыл бұрын

Because a loophole softly creeping Left its seeds while I was sleeping

@PeterBarnes2 6 жыл бұрын

And the loophole that was planted in my laws Still remains

@dougholck4276 6 жыл бұрын

...just because... There is always, an exception.

@asteriskthegamingstar1891 5 жыл бұрын

So, CGP is old and my friend? Huh...

@theBCEproductions 2 жыл бұрын

IRS: "so you're telling me your child Thanos Squarepants isn't real?"

@al007italia Жыл бұрын

You mentioned that many railroad employees didn't need a Social Security number. Technically true, but inaccurate. Back in the day railroad retirement benifits & other benifits were placed under the Railroad Retirement Board. Every road employee was assigned the equivalent of a SSN number that started with 700-728. Since 1 June 1963 employees are given a regular SSN.

@danmur15 Жыл бұрын

4:26 I like how Grey just psudo-doxxed... *checks notes* most of New England lmao

@TracksideViews 6 жыл бұрын

Do all fraudsters wear hat and masks is the real question here.

@flinch622 5 жыл бұрын

Today? Botoxed tighter than a piano wire, and wearing a skirt - except for Bernie of course. He's from a different century.

@dinkleberg794 4 жыл бұрын

29 North Motorsports Thats what they want u to think

@brokenwishbone422 4 жыл бұрын

no sometimes just a mustache

@patrickrhealy6431 4 жыл бұрын

No THEY WEAR BONDAGE'TIE' COLLARS & PANHANDEL WHILE APPEARING IMPORTANT

@brokenwishbone422 4 жыл бұрын

@@patrickrhealy6431 facts

@jaketb193 7 жыл бұрын

"This *episode* has been brought to you by SquareSpace"- been podcasting a bit more than video making lately eh

@MisterMajister 7 жыл бұрын

Does anybody listen to the podcast? Is it good? I mean, it cant be as many as watch his videos.

@dawimu 7 жыл бұрын

If you like to hear him talk, you should definitely give it a listen! I started with Hello Internet, and am now also listening to many others (like Cortex, another one with him)... BTW; on those podcasts, he also explains the delays :)